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Why Does It Take A Tragedy For Better Laws?

Over the years, we have heard of many horrific shootings in schools, shopping malls and political events. We wonder why this happens, could it be mental illness, family values, technology, lack of gun control?  And now we've heard the most heartbreaking story of all, little innocent 6 year old children murdered senselessly along with the brave adults that tried to save them. I have faith that now most people will no longer tolerate this.  We can't let these senseless murders go on any longer.  We must protect the children from evil. Killing children goes beyond politics. Yesterday, I was watching the CNN news channel, and I heard this lovely poem about children written by Kahlil Gibran in 1923 that I would like to share with you:

On Children
      And a woman who held a babe against her bosom said, "Speak to us of Children." And he said: 
      Your children are not your children. 
      They are the sons and daughters of Life's longing for itself. 
      They come through you but not from you, 
      And though they are with you, yet they belong not to you. 
      You may give them your love but not your thoughts. 
      For they have their own thoughts. 
      You may house their bodies but not their souls, 
      For their souls dwell in the house of tomorrow, which you cannot visit, not even in your dreams. 
      You may strive to be like them, but seek not to make them like you. 
      For life goes not backward nor tarries with yesterday. 
      You are the bows from which your children as living arrows are sent forth. 
      The archer sees the mark upon the path of the infinite, and He bends you with His might that His arrows may go swift and far. 
      Let your bending in the archer's hand be for gladness; 
      For even as he loves the arrow that flies, so He loves also the bow that is stable.

Children are the future.  God bless all the children of the world.
Carrie7 Carrie7 51-55, F 10 Responses Dec 16, 2012

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I understand that tragedy at Sandy Hook has taken an emotional toll. I read recently that there are as many as 20,000 gun laws on the books. That's not a typo...20K.

Is the figure accurate? I'm not sure. But the article in which is was sited was actually defending the position of more gun control. I doubt seriously that someone who is anti-gun would publish a figure like that. Of course, the author went on to try to explain that the existing number of gun laws is immaterial to his argument.

How can the argument be immaterial? 20,000 gun laws, and people still perceive there is a gun problem? The how would anymore gun laws help?

The sorts of people that would use a gun to commit a violent crime - are criminals and nut cases. Why are we not asking the more obvious question...why don't the existing gun laws stop these people from committing gun crimes?

Because the world is more overpopulated and violent than ever before. After September 11, 2001 greed has been redefined to America's economic struggles. New gun laws will be created for the 21st century to protect the children from selfish people.

The sad truth is that no matter how many laws you write there will always be those outside of it. Who seek to break and disregard them my lady.
Sad but true.
Man is cruel.
Pray for us.

You cannot ignore what God has created. Let the one who has not sinned be the first to cast the stone.

I know what you mean....problem is as with what happened a few weeks ago in the senate, and the house, even though 90% of americans want more gun control...in the end the same thing is still happening, which is...it hasn't happened after-all anyway.

Where there is light, there is truth.

The goal of the gun control movement has always been disarming the public. After Columbine the elected thieves in Congress using trickery in legislation managed to write a bill saying "Teflon" coated bullets would be illegal. something like that. Well most bullets are coated to keep them from rusting. Luckily they were found out. High capacity magazines refers to many guns. The gun control zeolites have this thing about AR 15. I have hunting rifles that are more powerful. I have a 9mm semi auto pistol that holds almost 20 rounds..

There are plenty of laws on the books concerning guns. Maybe the courts should start actually punishing violent repeat offenders such as Willie Horton" remember him??

I'm a tax paying, business owning law abiding citizen. I own a 4 location business. I have a CWP and I carry 24/7 I live in the country..way outside of town and everybody carry's. Its the safest place to be.

I'll leave you with this. Historical fact: Hitler disarmed the Jewish folks and then the German citizenry under the guise of making the streets safer. Just imagine if you will had a few Jewish folks had some sort of weapon so when the nazi's, gestapo showed up on their door steps to lead them away to Auschwitz but instead a few nazi's got their heads blown off ..then the murder , torture of millions of Jewish people may not have happened.. You don't want guns? thats fine with me. don't own one. I choose to own and I always will. The founding fathers had a reason for the 2nd Amendment ...........

Agreed - there are already dozens of gun laws on the books. Our society has gone back and forth on this topic for longer than any of us have been alive. The only conclusion anyone consistently draws is that the gun laws do not stop violent crime.

When you kill 25 children with guns, the Constitution has no meaning anymore.

I understand the sentiment and indeed 25 young ones being killed is a horrible thing. But why don't we ban cars in your utopia? After all far more children are killed in car accidents? Household poisons kill more children a year than guns too, why not ban those? Children push out screen Windows and fall and get injured or killed, wall up all 2nd story and above Windows too. There's a slippery slope in your thinking. Taken to its logical conclusion we should be pulled gently from the womb and transferred to a safe place and kept from all harm or risk.. Life has risks. Life is full of dangers both mortal and non life threatening. Those risks have rewards though. Being able to visit other countries, seeing the diversity of your state or country is just a glimmer. There's far more rewards but yes you minimize risks but at some point you take your chances.


Gun control will not stop criminals from getting guns and using them. If Adam Lambert couldn't get his mom's guns he would have likely acquired them elsewhere. The goal of confiscating every gun in the US is a pipe dream at best. It won't stop gun violence, it's likely to cause a revolt for one. But assume that confiscation happens without a hitch... Now the black market will swell up and provide guns for the criminals that want them and want to use them and won't hesitate to use them.

Beautiful poem

I hope that I'm wrong, but I don't see any meaningful change happening. The image of the "good guy" farmer, shopkeeper, or ordinary joe pulling out his gun in a crisis to kill the "bad guys" is just too strong in this country. The problem, of course, is that, outside of the movies, there is no way to know before the fact who is really the "bad guy" or the "good guy," and people get it wrong regularly. I strongly suspect that the shooters in our recent mass killings saw themselves as a "good guys" doing things that were very necessary. While it may be literally true that "guns don't kill, people kill," it is also true that guns make it much easier for people to kill.

Stubbornness and pride stops people from seeing reality. Their obsession to hold on to what they have over rides the needs of the community. They may not even give if their family was destroyed.

You are right! What I really want to know is why the gun lobby is so head strong that we should keep the sale of these weapons with large carterages and can be reloaded so quickly. It is not like you can use them for hunting.

I agree with you. Ridiculous.

actually there are tons of semi-automatic hunting rifles out there, and please tell me what you consider " Large Carterages".

I have to agree with USMCFF. Lots of semi-automatic weapons are used for hunting. In fact, there are several excellent hunting weapons that have folding stocks, pistol grips - the classic features of an \"assault weapon.\" And how do you define large cartridges?

IT'S AN EYE OPENER !!!

It seems that the tribe of people who don't want any responsibility for their own life is increasing daily. The more prosperous the nation, the more we hear about such tragedies. It seems that such morons who end up harming others feel that the world owns them an explanation for the quality of their life...

“One of the mistakes many of us make is that we feel sorry for ourselves, or for others, thinking that life should be fair, or that someday it will be. It's not and it won't. When we make this mistake we tend to spend a lot of time wallowing and/or complaining about what's wrong with life. "It's not fair," we complain, not realizing that, perhaps, it was never intended to be.”
― Richard Carlson, Don't Sweat the Small Stuff ... and it's all small stuff: Simple Ways to Keep the Little Things from Taking Over Your Life