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Homosexuality Being A Sin

For all the people who quote the Bible, in the OT in Leviticus it was also a sin to eat pork an shellfish. It was a sin to have one's hair cut, have tats, piercings. It was a sin to wear clothes of different materials. It was a sin for women to wear pants. It was a sin to pleasure one self, and have premarital sex. It was a sin to work and heal on the Sabbath which was a Saturday. It was ok for a husband to beat his wife bec, she was his property. Slavery was acceptable and so was killing kids who disobeyed their parents. Stoning women who had an an affair was the way to handle it.
In the Gospels, Jesus Himself never said anything about homosexuality. In other parts of the NT , but not the Gospels, which is exactly from Jesus Himself. He did say 2 things which i think are quite appropriate in what I'm relating . 1: (not that I'm saying homosexuality is a sin) , but "he who is free of sin, can cast the first stone," 2: : "judge not, lest ye be judged."
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yes, but as well those old laws were made obsolete by Christ's death for our sins so we may have a new life with Him. in addition, it is said in the new testament many times not to be sexually immoral. also, as it is said in Matthew 7:1-2 "do not judge or you too will be judged (2): For in the same way you judge others you will also be judged and with the measure you use, it will be used on you" (NIV) so, in conclusion do not quote the Bible if you are going to exclude or augment parts for your own argument. Matthew 7:1-2 says do not judge unfairly for the same unfair scale will be used on you. it says be fair. it does not mean do not judge. if we were to not judge, how could we determine who should be our fiends? should we not judge their character before we are good friends or indebted to them? and should we not judge the effectiveness of politicians before electing them to office? an example: before Hitler became Chancellor of Germany he had already written Mein Kampf, which explicitly outlined his desire to kill all the jews, yet he was still able to gain power in a reasonably democratic Germany. so, don't quote the bible and leave things out to further your own argument.

I have chatted to bi and gay people as I find they are just as human as anyone else.
Its wrong to judge anyone I believe when they have not done anyone any wrong.
Its just my comment as we are all people who can live the life we want as long as we do not hurt others.

this is exactly my feeling i think you and i are very connected, even though we never met in person

Unless you live your life like Mother Teresa x2 then you're a sinner. You can find quotes for anything and then interpret them how you want. That's how its designed. It makes you believe you are a sinner, and thus you have no choice but to join the church.

Well said

Sin is all around now I find and its just a fact of life.
Even the thoughts many of us have are sinful by the bible.
But we are who we are in life and have no right to judge others.
I am not religious but I help a lot on EP and off with advice.

Everything is a sin in the bible human beings commit sins every day

WE WERE BORN TO COMMIT SINS

Jesus actually did say something about homosexuality.He made reference to it at Matt.10:15 so in that sense you are wrong.Not eating shellfish was a law given to Jews not Christian so in that sense you are wrong again.In Jude God Himself said that he did not hold back from punishing people the committed homosexual acts and in Corinthians we know the Bible speaks clearly on the matter as does Roman 1:24-28.
In reference to judging the Bible sets the standards for what is sin in God's eyes so to call something a sin is only possible if God said it first.
God also said in Ezekiel that if you know someone is committing sins and you do not warn them then you are guilty as well but if you do warn them you no longer are held for that sin.
So if you want to quote the Bible you really should know it better.I think why even bother trying to live up to the Bible standards and just live your life if you are going to try to justify it by trying to twist Bible quotes.Just leave religion alone and hope God's judgement day doesn't come while you are alive.That is my opinion.

The theory that the people of Sodom and Gomorrah were inhospitable is completely wrong.First of all there is no sin against being inhospitable.Not anywhere in the Bible.Jesus himself told his followers that if someone did not receive you into their homes,dust your feet off and go about your way.The other thing you should know is the angels were not treated inhospitable anyway.If you read about what happened back then the angels were sent to Lot's house and he did invite them in and showed them hospitality so that " inhospitable" theory is way off base and you should not believe such a silly thing.
The real reason why God destroyed Sodom & Gomorrah is found at Genesis 19:1-15.It says the men of the city wanted to have sex with the men that came to Lot in the night.Lot offered his daughters to them men of the city but they refused.They wanted homosexual intercourse.The angels told Lot in verse 15 that God was destroying the people the Sodom & Gomorrah for that error-the sin of homosexuality.
If you read those 15 versus it is plain and clear why they were killed.Look if someone wants engage in homosexual conduct that is their choice but it doesn't mean that in God's eyes it is not a sin.
I don't have a problem people doing what they want but I can't change how God see's it and no one else can either.

Jesus said love for God is the most important thing period.1 John 5:3 says that love of God is by obeying God.Without obeying God you can't have His love.That is firs and foremost before anyone can say that they have love for God or that God even returns His love to them.

Love---with strings attached ! No, thank you---that's NOT love. And the fact that God would consider a man offering his virgin daughters up to be gang raped more "honourable" than homosexuals is not a god who values women.

i think a God condone a father to hand over his daughter to be raped is horrible to say the least

No you have it wrong,Lot knew that the men would never touch his daughters but he certainly gave them a chance to change their ways by offering his daughters,not to be raped but to be with the men.They refused and God does not condone rape or even killing innocent people.Abraham was asked to sacrifice his son and right before he was about to kill his son for God,God intervened and stopped him.God said He saw that Abraham was obedient.That is what God looks for people that obey Him.

The question is were any of us around when the name God/Jesus and bible came into effect.
Anyone of us can write a book now and bury it in a strong metal box.
In 100 or more years time someone will believe what they read.
I am not judging those who are religious.
Just stating its a book wrote by someone.
And wrote more than once with different things said.
So I will say no to religion for me.

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sins are actually the abuse we undergo to our souls being a devine property, by our bodies which are a earthling property! When we die, its something like returning the things we borrowed back! Body back to earth, and soul back to Allah,,, and they should be sent to their original owners in such a good condition! Non humilited and not misused!
Now in homosexuality, you try to flip the gender of your soul and the natural creation and functioning of your body!
Have a thought people!!

then why did God pwn Sodom and Gomorrah?

I don't understand Spooksue648 please explain. Thanks

I am by no means a Jesus freak. Nor am I religious. And I am bisexual. However I was raised a Roman Catholic, and I'm shooting my self in the foot by saying this but the bible is not the only resource the church uses to define sin. And there are portions of the bible that forbid loving another of the same sex. Those in the religious camp will highlight anything that supports their point. People in the homo camp will highlight whatever proves their point. I think it's about time we all meet in the middle and leave each other the **** alone because things you don't pay attention too cannot enrage you

I'm glad you made this post! People should know that what some call a 'sin' is an arbitrary judgement passed to make an emotional terrorist feel fulfilled. True Christians, Muslims, etc. know how to love. They don't tell someone to burn in hell for being gay, or for wearing multi-fiber clothing.

Thanks for your support. It's great to see another person who are enlightened. Please message me. because I can't message you. God bless.Hug hug

It is so exciting seeing someone else say Hug, Hug. I say it too offline when I want to hug someone. :)

Okay :D