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  1. notdarcy - 41-45 years old - male

    Posted by notdarcy on Oct 9th, 2008 at 4:47PM

    On a reliable IQ test adjusted for age the average will fall within the range 85-115,so don't worry about the 7/5ths!
    On the whole IQ tests are a blunt instrument. They vary. Ever ponder the fact you can repeat the test and score lower? Think potential. You seem to be making the most of yours.Good for you. Remember, on its own IQ does not represent the keys to the kingdom! Focus,determination and a host of other qualities need to go into the mix. At best,IQ indicates the intellectual hand you've been dealt. How you play it is down to you.

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  2. Caligula666 - 41-45 years old

    Posted by Caligula666 on Oct 10th, 2008 at 6:21AM

    Notdarcy is right. There are different kinds of intelligence and aptitudes and a great deal depends upon how your brain hard wires itself as you grow. Different learning experiences cause different neurons to grow. I'm not sure what someone from a hunter-gatherer environment would make of an IQ test but he's not neccessarily less intelligent, just from a different environment. An Australian aborigine, for example might not know much about Statics, Dynamics, Mechanics of Materials, and Engineering Design in an academic sense but he applies the principles on a daily basis to survive. Few could survive in the Dead Heart of Australia for very long. I know, bad analogy but they survived for millennia before white men came along. Here's a tip, though, be humble. Nobody likes a smart-arse. Oh, and anyone who claims to have ninja skills by default doesn't have them because a ninja would not blab about it. Get over yourself and grow up.

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  3. JoeCrennan - 41-45 years old

    Posted by JoeCrennan on Oct 10th, 2008 at 6:26AM

    No need to feel so good about yourself!
    That's fairly basic stuff, I am physically talented also, and my driving acumen is beyond all. I have had no life because of my extreme intellect. What I can't do is sing, dance or small talk. Or keep a woman
    I have never had a job as no driving licence. Continuously persecuted by peasants.
    I am 47

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  4. befree1 - 46-50 years old - male

    Reply by befree1 Apr 27th, 2012 at 6:49AM

    Extreme intellect and you have no job, no woman and can't interact in small talk? Persecuted by peasants? You aren't intelligent, you have an ego problem.

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  5. levin60kitty - 61-65 years old

    Posted by levin60kitty on Oct 10th, 2008 at 6:35AM

    I understand your problem. I score really high on IQ tests and such. also I'm a member of Mensa - consider joining.
    I think you are confusing wisdom with intelligence. It takes a very intelligent human to put together a nuclear reactor - it takes someone with real wisdom to oversee it and insure it isn't used for evil purposes.
    Wisdom comes from intelligence multiplied by experience I believe. You are young - find a mentor, someone who can guide you. Listen to everything they have to say, then let your heart tell you which path to take.
    NEVER NEVER forsake your "spirituality" because of your intelligence. Sometimes intelligence tells us that there is nothing past death, nothing except this existence here. I'm not saying go to church or believe in a Christian God or Moslem God. Form your own set of principles, let them be your guideline in life.
    when you attain the wisdom I know you will have, use it to better mankind. Tim

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  6. Butchdarab - 51-55 years old

    Posted by Butchdarab on Oct 10th, 2008 at 7:24AM

    yeah, but your still an *******. That's the problem with most of you "wonder boys". Let me tell you, the Ninja with the 140 IQ is usually the first to bite the dust because he is the most predictable. Isn't He?

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  7. Psyduck - 51-55 years old - female

    Posted by Psyduck on Oct 10th, 2008 at 7:31AM

    What do you guys know about Asperger's?

    Contrary to popular, authoritarian mentality, it's not a disease and you don't need to be cured. It's just a different point of view. Most geeks are probably Aspies. It's a different way of looking at a personality type that's been around all along.

    Personally, I see it as a lack of herd-instinct and an inability to take social fictions seriously. (I can't bend the spoon because I can't even see the spoon. Because there is no spoon.) I prefer a straight-up, raw, objective reality that most people can't handle. I'm incurably honest and naive.

    The best way to get a handle on it is to talk to other Aspies and compare experiences. If you think it fits, it does.

    Wrong Planet: an online resource and community for Autism and Asperger's
    http://www.wrongplanet.net/article112.html#34283080
    http://www.wrongplanet.net/forums.html

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  8. Tense - 31-35 years old

    Posted by Tense on Oct 10th, 2008 at 8:29AM

    140 is not high enough to justify your condescending attitude. My IQ is higher than yours, however, I don't feel the need to blab my mouth off about it to other people. You are a boring show-off. If you were not so boring, I would have written a longer, more thoughtful reply, but people who play games are beneath me. GROW UP.

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  9. user22 - 31-35 years old - female

    Posted by user22 on Oct 10th, 2008 at 8:46AM

    I am a ninja, too! Being a ninja (IMHO) is being smart but not letting others know it. They will underestimate you and then... KAPOW! You blow them away.

    Intelligence can be described as knowing where to get the info you need and being able to apply it. If you don't know something, it doesn't mean you are stupid. Just because I am good at tests (celebrations of knowledge) doesn't mean I am intelligent, just a good test taker!

    Keep trying to expand your knowledge and reach higher! Don't let jealous people bring you down :)

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  10. Psyduck - 51-55 years old - female

    Posted by Psyduck on Oct 10th, 2008 at 9:01AM

    Tense said: "140 is not high enough to justify your condescending attitude. My IQ is higher than yours, however, I don't feel the need to blab my mouth off about it to other people. You are a boring show-off. If you were not so boring, I would have written a longer, more thoughtful reply, but people who play games are beneath me. GROW UP."

    That's the typical, ignorant response Aspies get. To the point where it can be a barrior to employment. It's not enough to be good at your job, you must also grovel, kiss butt, deny your own existence and pass the abuse downhill. You will never win with such a narrow-minded, ego-centric person. They are so basically dishonest and amoral that they can't think straight.

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  11. beingme - 51-55 years old - male

    Posted by beingme on Oct 10th, 2008 at 10:59AM, last updated Oct 10th, 2008 at 11:04AM

    Read the book Emotional Intelligence by Goleman if you haven't yet. Also The Moral Animal by Robert Wright. These books explore such questions in a broad context and may provide perspective. Scoring well on IQ tests indicates that you have efficient synaptic transmission in certain areas of the central nervous system. But life is about adaptability to environment, socialization and self-awareness. I believe the key to a 'good life' is mostly about forming strong relationships on many levels and behaving rationally in pursuit of goals that ultimately connect with the essential self. IQ is a wonderful tool available to you, but only one of many characteristics that when integrated provide opportunity for finding meaning and fulfillment in your life. I seem to have a knack for making friends who have high intelligence and yet fail in so many other ways to achieve meaningful existence. 'A New Earth' by Eckhart Tolle is another a book that I would recommend. Awareness of being, separate from the 'I' or ego as a function of thinking and emoting, may help in choosing a path.

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  12. giantdreams - 46-50 years old - male

    Posted by giantdreams on Oct 10th, 2008 at 11:05AM

    That's quite an impressive shopping list of personal virtues you've got going on there. My view on IQ is pretty simple; it's not a problem that needs fixing. It's something you use to your benefit, not flaunt in the face of us lesser humans. Nearly all knowledge is relative. What was necessary yesterday might be outdated today. So a huge database of knowledge is for bragging rights and a high IQ is something that is to be respected. But, let's face it...there are alot of people with worse problems.

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  13. iateabugtoo - 26-30 years old

    Posted by iateabugtoo on Oct 10th, 2008 at 11:06AM

    It looks like a lot of intelligent people here can't write decent sentences or spell words correctly...or even use Spellcheck. Sorry, I have been grading too many undergrad papers. ;-)

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  14. Psyduck - 51-55 years old - female

    Posted by Psyduck on Oct 10th, 2008 at 11:24AM

    "sweetnessnlight" said, "The REAL tests are never just given out casually."

    If "enigmaforlorn" took the tests out of curiosity and didn't intentionally cheat, they're probably close enough for this discussion.

    I had a homework assignment in college and used my brother's kid as a guinea pig just before she checked into kindergarten. The IQ score I gave her was the same as the one given by the professionals. The real tests are not that difficult.

    The point is that he is intelligent by the usual yardsticks, but has a few quirks that he would like to understand. The desire to make sense of yourself and your world is a virtue, not a crime.

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  15. levin60kitty - 61-65 years old

    Posted by levin60kitty on Oct 10th, 2008 at 12:45PM

    SECOND POST - I see here where some knock you as being a braggart and all that. don't let it worry you. You didn't come across like that to me. If you had webbed feet and wrote about it someone would knock you for that also. I have scored from 136 to 155 on tests I took. I can do a sudoku puzzle in as long as it takes me to write down the answer - that's just fact, not bragging. I believe people of intelligence should talk to each other, should try to use their intellect for good things. Tense, butchdarab and more who posted here don't "get" what its all about. Take care - Use your brain for good things. tim

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  16. rimmer66 - 51-55 years old

    Posted by rimmer66 on Oct 10th, 2008 at 1:44PM

    enjoy it while you can get drunk take drugs because you are the one that will still be in control ,with the skills that you say you have you will survive, and become stronger and wiser, you must first fail to trully succeed

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  17. soldati - 41-45 years old

    Posted by soldati on Oct 10th, 2008 at 2:55PM

    Dear enigmaforlorn,

    I'm not really sure what your problem is. It's great that you are smart. It seems that you are struggling with social skills issues. My IQ is significantly higher than yours. But, that and three bucks will get you a cup of coffee at Starbucks. Let me let you in on a secret... Everybody is smart. It's not about smart. It's about what you do with it. Live your life dude! Connect with your friends and don't worry about numbers like IQ. It's just mental ************.

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  18. AuntieBelle - 36-40 years old

    Posted by AuntieBelle on Oct 10th, 2008 at 4:51PM

    The first thing you need is friends who will reflect the reality of who you are. I suspect that you were "corrected" as a child for saying how smart you are.

    Let me be one for just a minute. You are 2/5ths "smarter" than the average person. You are 7/5ths AS "SMART" as the average person. You really should know better being a math wiz. This is, of course, assuming we accept standardized tests as an accurate measure of intelligence and that the "average" person's IQ is 100. I suspect it's higher.

    Being great at math doesn't mean much when you can't communicate what you are thinking correctly.

    Somehow you have managed, as have I, to have both a superiority and inferiority complex at the same time.

    Just realize this....being a genius doesn't make you any less human...or any more human. You will make mistakes, but that doesn't mean you do not have value. Remember your inherent value as a human.

    "I am perfect as I was created."

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  19. supermakil - 16-17 years old

    Posted by supermakil on Oct 10th, 2008 at 8:13PM

    auntiebelle - just FYI It does not mean that he is 7/5 smart or 2/5 smarter than anyone. it means that he got a 140 on the IQ test. this means he is "smarter" than about 99% of the population, not that he is a definate amount smarter than an average person. just kinda made me laugh to see someone correcting false info with more false info.

    anyways i think we should all lay off the guy, hes curious why his good IQ doesnt make him good at things, a logical question. My IQ is ... not gonna say because everyone will call me a smart ***, but i am 16 and basically am terrific at school without trying, but suck at a lot of things. basically it just shows that the IQ test doesnt show your guarenteed success in life, it merely shows that you have an advantage

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  20. infiniteignorant - 26-30 years old

    Posted by infiniteignorant on Oct 10th, 2008 at 9:04PM

    I also fall into the category of a lot of the responders here. Look at my user name,though. It tells the story. Part of the problem is that when you try to comprehend things, it comes off as arrogance, or "showing off", to some people. Just look at some of the responders. Some people get jealous because they think that you have something enviable when all you would like to do is figure out how to be normal. They don't see your despair. And seeing you this way makes them want to set you up to look stupid. DO NOT try to find logic out of the context of inanimate objects. If you do, some people will just keep changing the rules to watch you chase your tail. This cruelty is what some use as their entertainment. If something doesn't feel right, don't try to get all of the evidence to confirm what you do really know deep down in your gut. One word: INTUITION !! Love yourself. I wish you well. Notdarcy has some good thoughts though. And do look inside and see if maybe you do look down on others.

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  21. FlittingShadow - 16-17 years old - female

    Posted by FlittingShadow on Oct 10th, 2008 at 9:17PM

    wow, you guys are a bunch of ********. enigmaforlorn, i don't think you were condescending or rude in your post.

    i find that a lot of intelligent people, no matter how obviously humble they are about it(as you seem to be) tend to catch flak for talking about it. i believe it's percieved as threatening or intimidating to other people, and they misplace their discomfort and blame it on you. oh well. fact of life.

    anyway.. i have something of the same problem! (i score about 125.) i'm still a high school senior, so i'm not nearly as far ahead in life as you, but i'm getting there... i can empathize with your frustration/confusion; i guess us smarties tend not to be too well-rounded in other departments (social iq, emotional iq, etc.).

    if you want, you could talk to a counselor as nmrtian suggested about how to learn from your mistakes and become a little "wiser" to supplement your intelligence. :]

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  22. Tense - 31-35 years old

    Posted by Tense on Oct 10th, 2008 at 10:50PM

    To PSYduck: How wonderful, we have a Doctor on-line who has diagnosed, attempted to treat and stuck Enigmaforlorn in a neat little box and put a sticker on it 'Aspergers'. It's a shame, good doctor, that you can't see past your own narrow-minded diagnosis.

    A) I don't think Enigma has recorded his story as a truthful account of his life/feelings, &
    B) You are a fool for falling for it.

    He is yanking everyone's chain. That is obvious.

    And as for your snide comments that I am 'amoral and dishonest'... how about you re-read the initial post. That is what I call 'amoral and dishonest'. You are defending a manipulative game player, who is just wasting everyone's time.

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  23. Tense - 31-35 years old

    Posted by Tense on Oct 10th, 2008 at 10:54PM

    Levin60kitty. You are the one who has fallen for a bunch of crap, not me. I 'get it'. Enigma is playing games. How about you just use your brain.

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  24. smudged - 36-40 years old

    Posted by smudged on Oct 11th, 2008 at 7:22AM

    Humm. I'd say your a confident sort of person.

    A healthy dose of Humility, is essential to enjoying your god given Gifts.

    It's extremely difficult to have a well round life, for those trapped within the Educational System.

    You hang out with your Colleagues. That is a must.

    Specialization will become more and more your Field of Growth.


    ******************

    If I may say one thing.

    Put the Notion of Above average Intelligence into a Dusty closet, stored way back there in the Darkness of your Brain's Mind.

    Speak no more of this.

    It's as unhealth and revolting, as speaking of one's Ingrown Toe Nail.

    Peace and Love.

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  25. Psyduck - 51-55 years old - female

    Posted by Psyduck on Oct 11th, 2008 at 7:55PM

    To Tense: I did not attempt to diagnose Enigmaforlorn. I offered a suggestion for his consideration. He's a big boy with the intelligence to judge for himself.

    I did correctly diagnose you. You are basically dishonest, amoral, willfully ignorant and arrogant. If you don't know what's going on, you can look it up. It's a very real option, right at your fingertips. But be careful -- you might even learn something which could be a threat to your cozy little world. You know nothing at all, yet you deny the possibility that a person like Enigma can exist. It's outside your limited personal experience, therefore it must be condemned. No thinking required.


    To Enigma: I want to ask about your reaction to social fictions, authoritarian mentality and our brutal, mindless culture, because those are important issues in my own experience.

    Other Aspies frame things differently, but what they say still clicks and makes sense to me. One thing they will not do at WrongPlanet is harass you for an honest question.

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  26. jasonda - 31-35 years old - male

    Posted by jasonda on Oct 12th, 2008 at 12:52AM

    The reason why u noticed that u make stupid mistakes... could be because u r intelligent enough to notice it...

    Besides being intelligent doesnot take u past being human... humans make mistakes...

    and making mistakes is not completely associated to IQ, it is related to EQ... and when we talk about EQ... we should consider effects of your mood at the time, your mental focus, your body fatigue...

    at the end of the day, be happy u score well in the test... even though these tests are not the ultimate test of intelligence, u should be happy that you are doing better than most people who attempted the same test and secondly u r human and allow yourself to be human as well... it will keep u happy...

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  27. Tense - 31-35 years old

    Posted by Tense on Oct 12th, 2008 at 6:33AM

    To Psyduck: HIT A NERVE DID I DOCTOR???

    You said:I did correctly diagnose you. You are basically dishonest, amoral, willfully ignorant and arrogant. If you don't know what's going on, you can look it up. It's a very real option, right at your fingertips. But be careful -- you might even learn something which could be a threat to your cozy little world. You know nothing at all, yet you deny the possibility that a person like Enigma can exist. It's outside your limited personal experience, therefore it must be condemned. No thinking required. STRONG DIAGNOSIS, CONSIDERING YOU HAVE NEVER EVEN MET THE PATIENT.

    Did you ever hear the saying, THERE'S SOMETHING ABOUT THAT PERSON I CAN'T STAND ABOUT MYSELF? Take a look in the mirror, you rude, aggressive person.

    And after all of this, you still refuse to accept that your 'Aspies' dianosis may be incorrect. It's about time you stepped out of your comfort zone Psyduck, even if you do suffer from 'Aspies' your self.

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  28. xztfy - 56-60 years old - male

    Posted by xztfy on Oct 13th, 2008 at 12:27AM

    There is no doubt that Einstein had a high IQ. But I don`t see him to be especially intelligent. IQ tests measure how active your mind is not how intelligent you are. Proverbs 12-1 says- Whoever loves knowledge loves discipline, but who ever refuses correction is stupid.- It`s your attitude toward learning that makes the difference. The truly intelligent person is able to learn because he knows how ignorant he is and is on the lookout for knowledge. When you rebuke a wise man he ads to his understanding, when you rebuke a fool you have an argument.

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  29. hbar12 - 66-70 years old

    Posted by hbar12 on Oct 13th, 2008 at 2:32PM

    People who are successful always say that they are inspired, or others say that about them. What is inspiration and why did someone say that you need to be on a spirituality website? All the famous in every field claim intuition as a part or all of their engine. The reason is that the intuition is a million times faster and a million times the capacity of the part of the mind that we in as our normal consciousness. It is absolutely objective. If you ask yourself three or four questions about your intuitions you will see the three dimensional picture that is trying to get airing in our two dimensional language reasoning, linear logic. The mind thinks in visual logic. If you are smart you will be able to use this and amaze yourself at how little we consciously "know". Just listen to that still small voice and question what it says three levels in, at least. Get it? My life didn't start until I realized the power of my intuition and learned how to use it amazingly effectively.

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  30. kittycatangel - 26-30 years old - female

    Posted by kittycatangel on Oct 14th, 2008 at 6:03AM

    I score 146-152 on IQ tests....Have you ever thought about perhaps taking an EQ test, IQ means absolutely nothing without a high EQ.

    Once you start working on your emotional maturity, you will soon be making the best out of your knowledge and comprehension of the world around you. Its why most "nerds" are so backwards and make bad decisions even when they know at that moment, that the decision being made is a bad one, socially, and otherwise....Low EQ!

    Get tested and find out what you can do to improve, unlike an IQ, low EQ is something you can work on.

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  31. Tense - 31-35 years old

    Posted by Tense on Dec 3rd, 2008 at 9:18AM

    Couldn't agree with you more. Well said Ancientcelt!!!

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