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I Used to Be a Fetus

Isn't it having a double standard to enjoy being alive, yet okay with abortion? We all were born, we all used to be that life - still forming. Is it the child's fault that the parent have problems? Obviously not - so why punish the child? It is not a great leap of logic here... Now let me really stir the pot of controversy by saying abortion is barbaric and it is murder.

VincentValentine VincentValentine 31-35, M 18 Responses Sep 2, 2009

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I agree completely. Unfortunately jadecrow WAS naive... he is dead now. But at least he was somewhat respectful of our stance compared to more liberal groups and people.

scientists have already confirmed that life starts at conception. I don't know how hard that is to understand for people. I made a HUGE mistake and I looked up pictures of aborted babies, and within weeks they already have hands and feet, finger prints and a pulse. They go in and literally rip the child apart to kill the poor thing, then just scoop em on out! HOW can ANYBODY be okay with that?? I saw pictures of an aborted child the size of a quarter, they fight for their lives! If they could come back I KNOW that their first question to their mother would be "why did you want me to die?" <br />
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This jadecrow person is so niave! Even if the child isn't wanted or the environment wouldn't be a good one, they could STILL give it to adoption!!! Someone out there will want that baby! AND if the stupid female wanting to get an abortion is "mature" enough to have unprotected sex, then she better damn well be ready to deal with the consequences! People need to stop saying that crap as an arguement!<br />
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Archange- you should help me support pro-life on our facebook page it's "Stop abortion, raise awareness" people are so freakin naive

Far more human beings have died in abortion mills than ever died in Hitler's death camps.If it isn't a child at conception,it never will be.Why should an innocent child have to die just to accomodate someone's selfish life style.And yes,I'd adopt in a minute if I could.

I agree with you 100%, abortion is completely barbaric. Have you ever looked up exactly how they perform them? From 1st trimester to 3rd, EVERY SINGLE METHOD is INHUMANE. So we have to kill animals humanely, but people....doesn't matter?? Now that is warped. Also, you have every right in the world as a man to state your opinion. You have just as much to do with making a baby. That feminist stuff is what got us to this point, taking the lives of our own children....Wake up ladies, stop burning your freakin bras.

Murder is hardly off topic, since I believe abortion to be murder. It's really about semantics, isn't it? Killing in self defense, execution of criminals, these acts are widely accepted as okay. I am against killing another even in self -defense if at all possible, and I am against the death penalty. I am saying this so you may know that I do not carry a double standard.<br />
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Life is tough. That does not justify killing. Ever. In any form. And if the world sucks... we don't sit and whine and hope some politician gets off his bum and makes some law... We take action, we change the world - one person at a time if needed.

well gee if you say murder is wrong (way off subject now) than murdering the murderer is also wrong so Life imprisonment is the solution. Logic dictates it. So if by all that you believe is right that abortion is wrong. What is the solution for mother and child in a world such as ours.

No, I would not agree. Knowing something is wrong is a step in the direction of creating a solution. I like to take one step at a time, so I don't fall, so I know where I am going. <br />
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There are several potential solutions, but a lot depends on the people involved and the exact situation. <br />
Take murderers for example. There is a disagreement as to the solution - life in prison, capitol punishment, possible parole in twenty years, etc. We all know that murder is wrong, and cannot agree on a solution - what do you think, that until a solution is reached murderers should be allowed to roam the streets?

but what a about the life the mother and child have to lead . yes. You can think something is barbaric and heartless, but do you have a solution or do you just stop at saying something is wrong. You may have a valid opinion but that also suggest you have a valid solution. It not enough to say something is wrong and why, a solution is also in order. Wouldn't you agreed

Thank you. I still may.

I disagree with your entire statement, toby2day. Each part of it. Sorry.

Of course I thought things out and care about the results... That is one of the reasons I am pro-life! Life is precious, it is not a thing to be thrown out, nor is it something to be considered a mistake! That is cold, heartless, and barbaric!

sorry I'm just following things out to a conclusion merely a excercize example if " A" does this and "B" happens and result is "C" and if "C" is not the desired result what will change "C".<br />
"A" is your opinion, "B" is the world I was just wondering if you had thought things out to the results or even care about the results.

That is not what I said, not even close. Don't try to interpret what I say to suit your preconceived notions about that which you truly have little understanding.<br />
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And there is a huge difference in "forcing a woman to do something against her will" and forcing someone to not murder a child.

hmmmmm so let me understand.<br />
1) You would have woman go and risk her life and health with an unwanted pregnancy.<br />
2) You are not overly concerned about the environment this child is born into.<br />
3) You are not really prepared to take on these responsibilities yourself.<br />
so I'm I correct, or do you have a valid solution beside don't get pregnant and or forcing a woman to do something against her will or ablilty ??

At the moment none. However, this is because I will be getting a divorce with my wife. We had planned to adopt, because she is infertile due to a medical condition known as endometriosis. Had things not gone bad, we would have adopted two or three children based on our income (how many we could support).

Petriax, How many children have you adopted ??

The way you said it earlier sounded very sexist - that's just how it sounded to me.<br />
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You are wrong that 'from conception' was a rare opinion before the twentieth century. The Bible states it, more than once - including in the Levitical laws where it was a crime to cause death to an unborn child. Re check your information in this area.<br />
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For me, I find it an easy choice, though I am aware others are not so sure. I know that I would sacrifice myself to save my child (if I had one) and I would not have to think about it first.

I have heard the argument from feminism before. It has nothing to do with painful birthing or any other discomforts of pregnancy. Because I am male does not make my opinion any less valid - that is a sexist statement. A zygote is alive. A fetus is alive. To take a life, especially an innocent life is murder. If you don't want a baby... well, you know where I would go with that yes?