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Pro-life Abortions

Especially when the ones protesting have aided someone with getting an abortion or got an abortion themselves... then think only their abortion is just.

I'm not 100% sure of the accuracy of these stories, nor am I saying this is the case for all pro-lifers, but they're interesting, and I have no doubt that, even if these specific people don't exist, people like them do:
http://mypage.direct.ca/w/writer/anti-tales.html

The lady that put together that page seems rather interesting: http://mypage.direct.ca/w/writer/


One of the major issues I have with pro-life arguments is what they consider life. We have cadavers kept "alive" for students to learn with (hearts beating, nerves feeling, and all that jazz - they can even ****** (which is how we're sure the nerves, or at least some nerves, are working)). The only thing not "alive" is the brain, and I think the rest of the organs don't functionally run. The thing is, you can almost directly compare a fetus with such a learning cadaver, as gross as that thought is. The fetus cannot hear anything or feel pain until the third trimester (sometimes just before the third trimester). While it's heart and other such bodily functions may exist and operate before then, the fetus is essentially brain dead until then. The only major difference between a fetus before the third trimester and a "living" cadaver is that fact that their brain can grow and develop to be able to control their bodies and its functions. But abortions only occur during that part of pregnancy to save the mothers life. So arguing about late-term abortions is silly. Embryos and fetuses are potential life, but they are not a life, because you do need some sort of brain that really functions to be a living creature - something an embryo/fetus doesn't have. I've never heard it called murder to let a "living" cadaver "die," so I have a very very hard time considering abortion murder. Pre-life is not life, nor is after-life "life" really a life. It really is that simple, as cold as that sounds.

- K
Knabble Knabble 18-21, F 2 Responses Sep 24, 2011

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Perhaps I would need to go to medical school to understand this post, but I have studied anatomy and physiology in both high school and college, and I really have never heard of any of this.



Anyway, I just found out about this myself and thought I'd share these statements ( in case others haven't seen it) made by Norma McCorvey aka "Roe" of Roe v. Wade fame. "I was sitting in O.R.'s offices when I noticed a fetal development poster. The progression was so obvious, the eyes were so sweet. It hurt my heart, just looking at them. I ran outside and finally, it dawned on me. 'Norma', I said to myself, 'They're right'. I had worked with pregnant women for years. I had been through three pregnancies and deliveries myself. I should have known. Yet something in that poster made me lose my breath. I kept seeing the picture of that tiny, 10-week-old embryo, and I said to myself, that's a baby! It's as if blinders just fell off my eyes and I suddenly understood the truth — that's a baby!



I felt crushed under the truth of this realization. I had to face up to the awful reality. Abortion wasn't about 'products of conception'. It wasn't about 'missed periods'. It was about children being killed in their mother's wombs. All those years I was wrong. Signing that affidavit, I was wrong. Working in an abortion clinic, I was wrong. No more of this first trimester, second trimester, third trimester stuff. Abortion — at any point — was wrong. It was so clear. Painfully clear."

You probably took an intro to anatomy class. Most colleges have two levels of anatomy and physiology and both may be called anatomy and physiology, but the levels are usually different. There was a general anatomy class for biology students and then there was the health sciences anatomy and physiology that was split over 2 semesters.

Also, a lot of the 10-week embryo pictures used aren't actually pictures of 10-week-old fetuses. I've seen actual pictures that they had to print out in the ER (OB didn't have a printer) of 10 week-old fetuses. The development charts look all nice and cute.

But hey, nice job going for emotional appeal and not using any logic to support your claim.

Can you be 100% sure that the little ones are not "alive"? If there is even a .01% chance that they are, indeed alive, would you not do your best to protect them? These are children we are speaking about. Its so easy to dehumanize them.... So sad.