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Yes, Learning







"While I thought that I was learning how to live, I have been learning how to die."  (Leonardo da Vinci)
WildeOscar WildeOscar 51-55, M 8 Responses Apr 19, 2012

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WO. This is an excellent thread to read. Chock full of good stuff. I have always had a really goofy take on death and how it connects to learning. I never thought of death as a bad or scary thing. It's just the next step in where ever it is we're all headed......It's the only thing we are ALL guaranteed to experience! So I think if we embrace as much knowledge as possible and learn all we can about as much as is possible for us then maybe death leads to somewhere even cooler then where we are. For me death is like the last big surprise to look forward to. I know how odd that sounds. I've never been suicidal either...just accepting that it waits up ahead like a future turn on life's road.... :)

I admire your insight and outlook. It took me longer than you to get there. "The last big surprise to look forward to" is a great way to put it.

awaaa thanks.... :)

This is a wonderful quote really made me think , I think I feel the same way . I will die that is a fact , if I must then I want to be able to die knowing I have made something worthwhile of my life . That I have reached out to as many people as I can and helped whenever I could, that I have loved my family and friends the best I could . That I have shown compassion and empathy wherever possible and that I leave the earth trying my hardest to have left no scars behind me , that no one will think on my memory with anger or hurt. Knowing this I make my path , walk down my road of life with always this thoughts in mind . Therefore I am learning how to die .

Life was thrust at us, and we all entered the world dependent, helpless creatures. Our dark companion will arive to guide us one day and we have this time to prepare the way. It isn't sad; it's inevitable. I have admired your thoughts and pictures posted from time to time on this subject, and our reflection on this duality of life and death.

A very good quote. I understand becuase for a while I was learning how to die. So that quote really rings a bell with me.

Please don't hasten things. Get busy with other thoughts, and there will be a time many years from now.

I may be wrong but i feel this is a relevant quote to add. I love to look back on these words as well.



The Dalai Lama, when asked what surprised him most about humanity, answered "Man.... Because he sacrifices his health in order to make money. Then he sacrifices money to recuperate his health. And then he is so anxious about the future that he does not enjoy the present; the result being that he does not live in the present or the future; he lives as if he is never going to die, and then dies having never really lived."

I recently heard someone observe that people spend money they haven't earned to buy things they don't need, in order to impress people they really don't even like. That's not much of a life, and the economic downturn of the past 4 years has caused many to re-evaluate their priorities and actions. I'm almost always going to go with the Dalai Lama's view on things.

I have to agree but for the most part I think people in general have a tendency to take the easy way out. In the sense of they need to be told how to be happy instead of looking for it within themselves. Everywhere we turn we are force fed images and ideas that we need this or that to be happy in return you are never content with what you currently have and you fail to miss the little things that make life so special and unique to us all. Dalai Lama's words here are a great way to bring us back to the reality of things.

Quite a thoughtful quote....

'Freedom means death and death means freedom...both are equal and both are one'... I like the meaning of these lines..its an English translation of a quote in my language...

The prevailing view of the ancient Romans, from what I've read and studied, is very similar to the quote you offered. Instead of trying to hide from death, we can accomplish much in life by harnessing its power.

In reality we will be learning until the day we die. We really have no choice otherwise, the key is how we use what we've learned during the journey. I like to consider myself a "life learner". Not sure I could define the term, but you get it I'm sure.

I hope to be, and I'm sure you are. Thank you for your positive perspective.

I agree to an extent but there are many who reach a point where they no longer choose to pursue knowledge, and just coast through their remaining days. Have you ever noticed that the people who actively try to learn new things seem to live much longer and more alert. My grandfather would still read or watch documentaries even on his death bed. but he was coherent until the end. Where I have had other family members pass on who didn't have that drive and became uninterested in communicating or living for that matter and once they became ill they didn't last long.

No question about it. Exactly why my plan is to learn, live and love until the very last day.

If to live is to die, or if. . . to die is to live. . . then I should know what should be worth living or dying for. "Self denial" is all I could come up. . . I might as well seek to have what's for my children's happiness first, before embarking to the unknown.

Children are certainly worth living for, and you are focused on them. A good way to live.

It's a breakthrough to learn...but dying? (Tiptoeing to escape the scene)



I wanna live forever with the body and mind that I possess at this moment... I have yet so many things to do and plan to pursue...If only I am allowed, why not?

I know the feeling. I had it until about five years ago, when life and death became my equal and willing companions. Today, one leads and the other follows, but, in time, they will change places. Five minutes or 30 years matters not to me. For you, I wish you to have the long life rich in experiences that you are making and seeking.

***bows...:)