You Guys Need To Know About Jesus....

Jesus wants us to care for others and to help others. To care for the poor and for
the sick and for the young. I know that he has a heart for all of you. He has brought me
friends when I needed friends. I have been so lonely for so long. It makes me happy to
know that someone want to help me through life. I always wanted to be married,
and then I figured out single people have responsibilities also. So I want you to
know that Jesus cares for you guys. Thanks for taking the time to look at my
message.
lea1307 lea1307
18-21, F
2 Responses May 16, 2012

"Of course, the bible needs to be read and interpreted. But to say that every Christian is at the will of whoever is leading the church of my choosing is not only wrong, it reveals a spirit of pride and arrogance. You make church members look like stupid sheep who cannot think themselves."<br />
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Let me first address this comment.. I did not say "every christian" and as a matter of fact i made sure to acknowledge believers who are not like those which i was describing. If this were the case though, your opnion of my being foolish and arrogant would be one i would not argue with you about. <br />
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"I do not see what trust in the word of God has to do with logic. And I do not understand what makes you think that there is no truth in modern bibles. No matter how many translations there are, there is only one source - the living God, who loves us so much that He send His son to die in our place, so that we might love him."<br />
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While i do not agree with you're opening statement, i will say that i should have worded that a little more carefully. I do believe there is truth in the bible, but i view it as a long lived game of telephone with which we need to let the spirit of the word speak to us rather than take them at face value, which, quite a few people have the tendency to do. <br />
You are so right! There is only one source! And Jesus did come here to teach us and die for us. <br />
Are you under the impression i dont believe such things?<br />
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Let me quote a book called "love your god with all your mind"<br />
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"Today, people are inclined to think that the sincerity and fervency of one’s beliefs are more important than the content… Nothing could be further from the truth… As far as reality is concerned, what matters is not whether I like a belief or how sincere I am in believing it but whether or not the belief is true. I am responsible for what I believe and, I might add, for what I refuse to believe because the content of what I do or do not believe makes a tremendous difference to what I become and how I act.<br />
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A belief’s strength is the degree to which you are convinced the belief is true. As you gain evidence and support for a belief, its strength grows for you… The more certain you are of a belief… the more you rely on it as a basis for action.<br />
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…sc<x>ripture holds us responsible for our beliefs since it commands us to embrace certain beliefs and warns us of the consequences of accepting other beliefs. On the other hand, experience teaches us that we cannot choose or change our beliefs by direct effort.<br />
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For example, if someone offered you $10,000 to believe right now that a pink elephant was sitting next to you, you could not really choose to believe this… If I want to change my beliefs about something, I can embark on a course of study in which I choose to think regularly about certain things, read certain pieces of evidence and argument, and try to find problems with evidence raised against the belief in question.<br />
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…by choosing to undertake a course of study… I can put myself in a position to undergo a change in… my beliefs… And… my character and behavior… will be transformed by these belief changes." - From chapter 3 of J.P Moreland's "love your god with all your mind"<br />
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Just some food for thought.... <br />
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It would have been nice if you could have read my comment without feeling emotinally involved to the extent of telling me i need to get off of my high horse and assuming that im someone who thinks there better than everyone else.. This simply isn't true. To be honest, i wonder what you were seeking in coming to this group and posting here about how we need to find Jesus? You assume that everyone here is without god? The title of your post is "you guys need to find jesus" does this not imply that you are right in what you believe and we are wrong for what we believe? I'm curious why you seem to be pointing the finger at me when it seems as though you have a rather high horse you sit upon yourself. <br />
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Matthew 7:1 "do not judge, or you too will be judged"<br />
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Romans 2:1 You, therefore, have no excuse, you who pass judgment on someone else, for at whatever point you judge the other, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things.

I dont think you're understanding the reasoning behind why most people on here say they aren't religious. This does not mean that they do not believe in Jesus, although, im sure there are some people here who do not....forgive me, This is going to be long winded.<br />
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Western religion has become so incredibly doctrinated and Conformed to fit the needs of those in power. Look at the facts, translations of the bible into english can be dated back to the end of the 7th century. Since then, over 450 versions have been created. The Bible was first translated from Hebrew to Greek, then from greek to latin. The first written English translations of the Bible were made from the Latin Vulgate rather than the original Hebrew and Greek languages. Please keep in mind that While their alphabette may look very similar, The Hebrew language is completely different than the greek language, as is the greek language completely different from latin and so on and so forth. Not to mention having certain ex<x>pressions or words, vowels etc in one language and not in the other.. How then, could the bible possibly be translated correctly? You must also realize that our version of the bible is one that has been handed down, changed, and revised THE MOST! My point here is, given the amount of times the original hebrew bible has been Translated, while it is still a very awesome book, there is no logical reason to believe that what is in our bibles today, is truth. <br />
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There are reported to be approximately 38,000 Christian denominations. That tells me that nobody can agree on what to believe. The bible is open to interpretation and as "followers" you are at the will of whoever is leading the church of your choosing. THIS is the downfall of RELIGION. It becomes corrupted by individuals who get a taste of power and want more, who think that it their god given right to rule their church as they see fit, according to their own will. One religion in particular was infultrated a long time ago, but dont get me started on catholicism. Not to say that everyone of this particular faith is "bad" . There are many religious christians out there who are, indeed, good! And im happy that they are happy. For some people though, it's reasons such as these, that we choose instead to spiritual. Speaking for myself, this means, I believe in an all powerful God whom created the heavens and the earth and all that is within it. I do also believe that Jesus was sent here to try and show us how to live to attain the spiritual awareness that he was inherently born with.. <br />
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It is sad to see so many willing to accept what they are told without looking any further for the answers themselves. So many christians believe every word coming from the preachers mouth, they absorb his interpretation of who God is, who they should be, and they have yet to even read the whole bible for themselves! They are content and satisfied with this, it is insane. <br />
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There is so much more to who you are, to this universe, to every single living thing on this planet, down to the tiniest blade of grass! Jesus knew this.. This is why he allowed himself to be a martyr. There is more than what any church wants to, or even knows to teach you. Only God, alpha omega, the creator, the source of all light, etc. can teach you these things.. And only if you are open to listen and if you truly want truth for yourself in your heart.

Did you guys read the link posted to continue the topic on another thread?? I replied but im done now... Spent is the word. LoL agreeing to disagree is the best answer sometimes.