Thinking About A Termination

I have three children and my youngest is 6 months and i just found out im pregnant again!
This has just really confused me. My husband wants me to have the baby but i dont think i can do it all again so soon.
This didnt happen because i was careless i was breastfeeding and on the mini pill and i only found out i was pregnant because i stopped breastfeeding and no period came! Im scared to go through both of my options, either having the baby which be another c-section or having an abortion. I have booked into have an termination this friday and i find out how pregnant i am today by an ultrasound. Please someone please give me some advice?
sarahnfam sarahnfam 26-30 11 Responses Aug 29, 2011

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That's wonderful! I'm glad he's getting that done so now you don't have to worry. i guess it must have been a mistake with the test.

Thanks for the comments. But after all that i went to have the ultrasound done and there was no baby! I had my blood test and it came back negative and then i took another pregnancy test and it said not pregnant. I was in a state of shock! Im not sure what happened. can you have false positive readings? Im thankful that i didnt have to make any decision in the end, it honestly was a very confusing and scary 2 weeks that i thought i was pregnant. Now my husband is getting a vasectomy because we love and are happy with the three children we have.

BTW, clinics often also lie about fetal development.

After 21 days, the baby's heart is beating. After five weeks, she or he has brain waves. At seven weeks, she or he has fingers and toes and a face. By that time the baby in the womb is a fully formed person. After 9 weeks, he or she has fingerprints that are unique and different from anyone else's on the planet. At 10 weeks, if she is female, she has a uterus of her own. If you have an abortion after 21 days, you are stopping a beating heart. If its after seven weeks, you are having the arms and legs torn off the child by the force of the suction machine. These are not opinions but facts.

Here is a site by the National Institute of Health (not a pro-life site) that backs up the information I've posted.

Well, actually, I'm an atheist. Not that that's important. And abortions are done the same way in 1980 as they are in 2011- in the first trimester at least- by suction curretage. Each study I quoted was in a major publication like the Journal of Obstetrics and Gynecology which doesn't accept studies unless they are high quality. But of course everyone has to make their own decisions. I just would question about how a clinic will tell a woman there are no studies that show danger of future miscarriage or breast cancer when there have been hundreds. It makes me wonder what else they are lying about. I would want to know ALL the information if I were getting an abortion, personally. I can't see how knowledge about a medical procedure can hurt anything. Also, keep in mind i was directly responding to a statement that said there were no studies proving a link between abortion and breast cancer or miscarriage. I just wanted to refute that with the facts.

There are bible thumping christians out there who publish information such as yours to scare women into not having an abortion. In all of your information not once did it state how many women were in their studies....that's important information to know before you start spouting off percentages. It's her body and she can do what she wants with it, only she knows what's right for her and she doesn't need someone like you posting bullshit statistics to scare her into keeping a baby she may or may not want. it's a hard enough decision to make without people like you telling her that it's the wrong decision. it may be the wrong decision to you....that's it. You don't know what's right and wrong for her. and some of your stats are based in FINLAND! get real. your second set of stats...did you even bother looking at the publication dates? The United States is far more medically advanced than they were in the 80s dear.

LOL don't believe everything you read on the internet. abortion is a controversial subject and there are different studies on both sides of the fence. what makes yours right and mine wrong? she asked for advice not for statistics and scare tactics.

Women who have abortions are more likely to experience ectopic pregnancies, infertility, hysterectomies, stillbirths, miscarriages, and premature births than women who have not had abortions.

Source: Strahan, T. Detrimental Effects of Abortion: An Annotated Bibliography with Commentary (Springfield, IL: Acorn Books, 2002) 168-206.

More studies confirming higher risk of ectopic pregnancy:

Daling,, "Ectopic Pregnancy in Relation to Previous Induced Abortion", J. American Medical Association 253(7):1005-1008, Feb. 15, 1985;

Levin,, "Ectopic Pregnancy and Prior Induced Abortion", American J. Public Health 72:253, 1982; C.S. Chung, "Induced Abortion and Ectopic Pregnancy in Subsequent Pregnancies," American J. Epidemiology 115(6):879-887 (1982).

Death or disability of newborns in later pregnancies

Cervical and uterine damage may increase the risk of premature delivery, complications of labor, and abnormal development of the placenta in later pregnancies.

Sources: "Post-Abortal Endometritis and Isolation of Chlamydia Trachomatis," Obstetrics and Gynecology 68(5):668- 690, 1986);

P. Sykes, "Complications of termination of pregnancy: a retrospective study of admissions to Christchurch Women's Hospital, 1989 and 1990," New Zealand Medical Journal 106: 83-85, March 10, 1993; S Osser and K Persson, "Postabortal pelvic infection associated with Chlamydia trachomatis infection and the influence of humoral immunity," Am J Obstet Gynecol 150:699, 1984;

B. Hamark and L Forssman, "Postabortal Endometritis in Chlamydia-Negative Women- Association with Preoperative Clinical Signs of Infection," Gynecol Obstet Invest 31:102-105, 1991;

Strahan, Detrimental Effects of Abortion: An Annotated Bibliography With Commentary (Springfield, IL: Acorn Books, 2002) 169.

Studies indicating higher risk of breast cancer after one or more abortions:

M. Segi, et al "An Epidemiological Study on Cancer in Japan," GANN, Vol. 48, Supplement: April, 1957. (abstract not available)

Pike et al (1981) Br Journal of Cancer 43 Oral contraceptive use and early abortion as risk factors for breast cancer in young women

Nishiyama (1982) Shikoku Ichi 38: 333-43 (In Japanese)

Laing et al (1993) J National Med Assoc. 85:931-9 Breast cancer risk factors in African - American women: the Howard University Tumor Resistry experience.

Laing et al (1994) Genetic Epidemiology 11:A300

Rohan et al. Am J Epidemiol 1988 Sep;128(3):478-89 A population-based case-control study of diet and breast cancer in Australia.

Bu et al. (1995) Am J Epidemiol 141:S85

Ye et al. (2002) Br J Cancer 87:977-981

Brinton et al. (1983) Br. Journal of Cancer 47:757-62 Reproductive factors in the etiology of breast cancer.

Rosenburg et al. (1988) Am J Epidemiology 127:981-9 Breast cancer in relation to the occurrence and time of induced and spontaneous abortion.

Marcus et al. Am J Public Health 1999 Aug; 89(8):1244-7 Adolescent reproductive events and subsequent breast cancer risk.

Palmer et al. (1997) Cancer Causes Control 8:841-9 Induced and spontaneous abortion in relation to risk of breast cancer.

Lazovich et al. Epidemiology 2000 Jan;11(1):76-80 Induced abortion and breast cancer risk.

Daling et al. Am J Epidemiol 1996 Aug 15;144(4):373-80 Risk of breast cancer among white women following induced abortion.

Daling et al. J Natl Cancer Inst 1994 Nov 2;86(21):1584-92 Risk of breast cancer among young women: relationship to induced abortion.

Laing et al. J Natl Med Assoc 1993 Dec;85(12):931-9 Breast cancer risk factors in African-American women: the Howard University Tumor Registry experience.

White et al. (1994) J Natl Cancer Inst 86:505-14 Breast cancer among young U.S. women in relation to oral contraceptive use.

Newcomb et al. (1996) JAMA 275:283-7 Pregnancy termination in relation to risk of breast cancer.

Howe et al. Int J Epidemiol 1989 Jun;18(2):300-4 Early abortion and breast cancer risk among women under age 40.

Andrieu et al. Br J Cancer 1995 Sep;72(3):744-51 Familial risk, abortion and their interactive effect on the risk of breast cancer--a combined analysis of six case-control studies.

Hirohata et al. (1985) Natl Cancer Inst Monogr 69:187-90 Occurrence of breast cancer in relation to diet and reproductive history: a case-control study in Fukuoka, Japan.

Ewertz & Duffy (1988) Br J Cancer 68:99-104 Risk of breast cancer in relation to reproductive factors in Denmark.

Lipworth et al. (1995) Int J Cancer 61:181-4 Abortion and the risk of breast cancer: a case-control study in Greece

Rookus & van Leeuwan J Natl Cancer Inst 88:1759-64 Induced abortion and risk for breast cancer: reporting (recall) bias in a Dutch case-control study

Talamini et al. (1996) Eur J Cancer 32A:303-10 The role of reproductive and menstrual factors in cancer of the breast before and after menopause

Watanabe & Hirayama (1968) Nippon Rinsho 26:1853-9 (in Japanese, no abstract available)

Dvoirin & Medvedev (1978) Meth Prog Breast Cancer Epidemiol Res, Tallin 1978. USSR Acad Sci pp 53-63 (In Russian)

Le et al., (1984) British J Cancer 72:744-51

Luporsi (1988) British J Cancer 72:744-51

Wu et al. (1996) Br J Cancer 73:680-6

Robertson C, Van Den Donk M, Primic-Zakelj, MacFarlaneT, Boyle P. The association between induced and spontaneous abortion and risk of breast cancer in Slovenian women aged 25-54. Breast 2001; 10:291-8.

Source: Coalition on Abortion/Breast Cancer

Every one of the thirty plus studies I have mentioned were in peer reviewed well respected medical journals. Any provider who tells you that studies do not show harm after an abortion is lying to you. The facts are right here. Dont' let them lie to you. It's your body and your health.

Here are a handful of studies. There have been many

Recent Research: Abortion's Harm to Women

62% Higher Risk of Death from All Causes, 2.5 Times Higher Risk of Suicide

Compared to women who give birth, women who abort have an elevated risk of death from all causes, which persists for at least eight years. Higher risk of death from suicide and accidents were most prominent. Projected on the national population, this effect may contribute to 2,000 - 5,000 more deaths among women each year.(1) Southern Medical Journal, 2002

3.5 Times Higher Death Rates from Suicide, Accidents, Homicides (Suicide 6 Times Higher)

Researchers examining deaths among the entire population of women in Finland found that those who had abortions had a 3.5 times higher death rate from suicide, accidents, or homicides in the following year. Suicide rates among aborting women were six times higher compared to women who gave birth and two times higher compared to women who miscarried.(2) European Journal of Public Health, 2005

Abortion Deaths Underreported on Death Certificates

A study of medical records in Finland found that 94 % of maternal deaths associated with abortion are not identifiable from death certificates alone. The researchers found that linking death certificates to medical records showed that the death rate associated with abortion is three times higher than that associated with childbirth.(3) Paediatric Perinatal Epidemiology, 2004

65% Suffered Trauma, 31% Had Health Complications

In this study comparing American and Russian women who had experienced abortion, 65% of American women studied experienced multiple symptoms of post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD), which they attributed to their abortions. Slightly over 14% reported all the symptoms necessary for a clinical diagnosis of abortion induced PTSD, and 84% said they did not receive adequate counseling.(4) 31% had health complications afterward. Medical Science Monitor, 2004

64% Involve Coercion, 84% Not Fully Informed

In the above study comparing American and Russian women who had experienced abortion, 64% of American women reported that they felt pressured by others to abort.5 84% said they did not receive adequate counseling.(4) Medical Science Monitor, 2004

Higher Rates of Depression, Substance Abuse, Suicidal Behavior After Abortion

In a New Zealand study, women who had abortions subsequently experienced higher rates of substance abuse, anxiety disorders, and suicidal behavior than women who had not had abortions, even after controlling for pre-existing conditions. Approximately 42% of women with a history of abortion had experienced major depression in the last four years (nearly double the rate of women who had not been pregnant and 35% higher than those who carried to term).(6) Journal of Child Psychology and Psychiatry, 2006 Significantly Higher Risk of Clinical Depression

Compared to women who carry their first unintended pregnancies to term, women who abort their first pregnancies are at significantly higher risk of clinical depression as measured an average of eight years after their first pregnancies.(7) British Medical Journal, 2002

65% Higher Risk of Clinical Depression

Analysis of a federally funded longitudinal study of American women revealed that women who aborted were 65% more likely to be at risk of long-term clinical depression after controlling for age, race, education, marital status, history of divorce, income, and prior psychiatric state.(8) Medical Science Monitor, 2003

30% Higher Risk of Generalized Anxiety Disorder

Researchers compared women who had no prior history of anxiety and who had experienced a first, unintended pregnancy. Women who aborted were 30% more likely to subsequently report all the symptoms associated with a diagnosis for generalized anxiety disorder, compared to women who carried to term.(9) Journal of Anxiety Disorders, 2005

Five Times Higher Risk of Substance Abuse

Women who abort are five times more likely to report subsequent drug or alcohol abuse than women who deliver.(10) American Journal of Drug and Alcohol Abuse, 2000 Unintended First Pregnancies: Increased Substance Abuse if Women Abort

Among women who had unintended first pregnancies, those who had abortions were more likely to report, an average of four years later, more frequent and recent use of alcohol, marijuana, and cocaine than women who gave birth. This is the first study to compare substance abuse rates among women who had unintended pregnancies.(11) American Journal of Drug and Alcohol Abuse, 2004

Nearly Twice as Likely to Be Treated for Sleep Disorders, Which Are Often Trauma-Related

In a record based study of nearly 57,000 women with no known history of sleep disorders, women were more likely to be treated for sleep disorders after having an abortion compared to giving birth. Aborting women were nearly twice as likely to be treated for sleep disorders in the first 180 days after the pregnancy ended compared to delivering women. Numerous studies have shown that trauma victims will often experience sleep difficulties.(12) Sleep, 2006

Records-based Study Indicates More Outpatient Psychiatric Care

Analysis of California Medicaid records shows that women who have abortions subsequently require significantly more treatments for psychiatric illness through outpatient care.(13) American Journal of Orthopsychiatry, 2002

160% More Likely to be Hospitalized for Psychiatric Treatment

A review of the medical records of 56,741 California Medicaid patients revealed that women who had abortions were 160% more likely than delivering women to be hospitalized for psychiatric treatment in the first 90 days following abortion or delivery. Psychiatric treatment rates remained significantly higher for at least four years.(14) Canadian Medical Association Journal, 2003

Screening for Known Risk Factors Would Dramatically Reduce Abortions

This study is an analysis of 63 medical studies that identify risk factors that predict negative psychological reactions to abortion. The review concludes that the number of women suffering from negative emotional reactions to abortion could be dramatically reduced if abortion clinics screened women for these risk factors.(15) The Journal of Contemporary Health Law and Policy, 2004

Subsequent Children Are Negatively Affected

The children of women who had abortions have less supportive home environments and more behavioral problems than children of women without a history of abortion. This finding supports the view that abortion may negatively affect bonding with subsequent children, disturb mothering skills, and otherwise impact a woman's psychological stability.(16) Journal of Child Psychology and Psychiatry, 2002

Drug Abuse During Subsequent Pregnancies Five Times More Likely

Among women delivering their first pregnancy, women with a history of abortion are five times more likely to use illicit drugs and two times more likely to use alcohol during their pregnancies. This substance use places their unborn children at risk of birth defects, low birth weight, and death.(17) American Journal of Obstetrics and Gynecology, Dec. 2002

Increased Smoking and Drug Abuse During Subsequent Pregnancies

A study of women who had just given birth found that compared to women who had experienced other types of pregnancy loss or had never had an abortion, women who had previously had an abortion are more likely to smoke, drink alcohol, or use marijuana, cocaine, or other illegal drugs during pregnancy.(18) British Journal of Health Psychology, 2005

95% Want To Be Fully Informed of All Statistically Associated Risks

Women considering elective surgery, such as abortion, consider all information about physical or psychological risks to be very relevant to their decisions. Fully 95 percent of patients wished to be informed of all risks statistically associated with a procedure, even if the causal connection between the procedure and risk has not been fully proven. (This finding is especially relevant to abortion providers who assert that, without proof that abortion directly causes problems such as depression or breast cancer, women would prefer not to be given such "worrisome" and "unnecessary" information.)(19) Journal of Medical Ethics, 2006

Teens Have More Mental Health Problems After Abortion, Even With Unplanned Pregnancies

A nationally representative study found that adolescent girls who abort unintended pregnancies are five times more likely to seek subsequent help for psychological and emotional problems compared to their peers who carry unintended pregnancies to term, after controlling for previous mental health history, family situations and other factors that might influence mental health. Teens who aborted were also three times more likely to report having trouble sleeping and nine times more likely to report subsequent marijuana use. (20) Journal of Youth & Adolescence, 2006

Abortion Increases Risk of Later Miscarriage by 60%

Researchers in the U.K. surveyed women ages 18 to 55 about their reproductive histories, lifestyles and relationships and found that women who had a previous abortion had a 60 percent higher risk of miscarriage during a subsequent pregnancy.(21) BJOG: An International Journal of Obstetrics & Gynecology, 2006

The Elliot Institute was involved in many of the studies listed above. For more comprehensive information, including links to some of the published studies, visit Citations

1. DC Reardon et. al., "Deaths Associated With Pregnancy Outcome: A Record Linkage Study of Low Income Women," Southern Medical Journal 95(8):834-41, Aug. 2002.

2. M. Gissler et. al., "Injury deaths, suicides and homicides associated with pregnancy, Finland 1987-2000," European J. Public Health 15(5):459-63, 2005.

3. M. Gissler, et. al., "Methods for identifying pregnancyassociated deaths: populationbased data from Finland 1987-2000," Paediatric Perinatal Epidemiology 18(6): 44855, Nov. 2004.

4. VM Rue et. al., "Induced abortion and traumatic stress: A preliminary comparison of American and Russian women," Medical Science Monitor 10(10): SR5-16, 2004.

5. Ibid.

6. David M. Fergusson, et. al., "Abortion in young women and subsequent mental health," Journal of Child Psychology and Psychiatry 47(1):16-24, 2006.

7. DC Reardon, JR Cougle, "Depression and Unintended Pregnancy in the National Longitudinal Study of Youth: A Cohort Study," British Medical Journal 324:151-2, 2002.

8. JR Cougle, DC Reardon & PK Coleman, "Depression Associated With Abortion and Childbirth: A Long-Term Analysis of the NLSY Cohort," Medical Science Monitor 9(4):CR105-112, 2003.

9. JR Cougle, DC Reardon, PK Coleman, "Generalized Anxiety Following Unintended Pregnancies Resolved Through Childbirth and Abortion: A Cohort Study of the 1995 National Survey of Family Growth," Journal of Anxiety Disorders 19:137-142 (2005).

10. DC Reardon, PG Ney, "Abortion and Subsequent Substance Abuse," American Journal of Drug and Alcohol Abuse 26(1):61-75, 2000.

11. D.C. Reardon, P.K. Coleman, and J.R. Cougle, "Substance use associated with unintended pregnancy outcomes in the National Longitudinal Survey of Youth," American Journal of Drug and Alcohol Abuse 26(1):369-383, 2004.

12. DC Reardon and PK Coleman, "Relative Treatment Rates for Sleep Disorders and Sleep Disturbances Following Abortion and Childbirth: A Prospective Record based-Study," Sleep 29(1):105-106, 2006.

13. PK Coleman et. al., "State-Funded Abortions Versus Deliveries: A Comparison of Outpatient Mental Health Claims Over Four Years," American Journal of Orthopsychiatry 72(1):141-152, 2002.

14. DC Reardon et. al., "Psychiatric Admissions of Low-Income Women Following Abortions and Childbirth," Canadian Medical Association Journal 168(10): May 13, 2003. 15. David C. Reardon, "The Duty to Screen: Clinical, Legal, and Ethical Implications of Predictive Risk Factors of Post-Abortion Maladjustment," The Journal of Contemporary Health Law and Policy 20(2):33-114, Spring 2004.

16. PK Coleman, DC Reardon, & JR Cougle, "The Quality of the Caregiving Environment and Child Developmental Outcomes Associated with Maternal History of Abortion Using the NLSY Data," Journal of Child Psychology and Psychiatry 43(6):743-57, 2002.

17. PK Coleman et. al., "A History of Induced Abortion in Relation to Substance Abuse During Subsequent Pregnancies Carried to Term," American Journal of Obstetrics and Gynecology 1673-8, Dec. 2002.

18. PK Coleman, DC Reardon, JR Cougle, "Substance use among pregnant women in the context of previous reproductive loss and desire for current pregnancy," British Journal of Health Psychology 10, 255-268, 2005.

19. PK Coleman, DC Reardon, MB Lee, "Women's preferences for information and complication seriousness ratings related to elective medical procedures," Journal of Medical Ethics, 32:435-438 (2006).

20. PK Coleman, "Resolution of Unwanted Pregnancy During Adolescence Through Abortion Versus Childbirth: Individual and Family Predictors and Psychological Consequences," Journal of Youth and Adolescence (2006).

21. N. Maconochie, P. Doyle, S. Prior, R. Simmons, "Risk factors for first trimester miscarriage: results from a UK-population-based case control study," BJOG: An International Journal of Obstetrics & Gynaecology, Dec 2006. Abstract available at

Do not let legislative bodies legislate your bodies. There are no statistics directly relating abortions to breast cancer, sterility or anything of that nature. I am 24 years old with one child already. A beautiful four year old who is the love of my life. However, back in march, my ex boyfriend broke my nose, knocked my tooth out and broke my car window. he went to jail, leaving me and my child homeless, i then decided to let my son stay with my parents until i could get on my feet again. I was homeless for 3 months before reuniting with my sons father, we decided to get back together and 3 months after that, I got pregnant again. Here I am, 9 weeks pregnant and I JUST started working again, my son will not be coming to live with us until the end of the year because financially we are not ready for him to come to live with us, nor are we financially ready to take care of another child, which is why we have decided to have an abortion. Yes, even thinking about having one makes me feel like crap. I cry all the time thinking about it. But I remind myself there is I have a child that I brought into this world four years ago that needs me and his father. and our main focus needs to be him. i don't believe it would be fair to not give him our undivided attention and put our focus on him after everything he and i went through. nor would it be fair to bring another child into this world knowing we couldn't take care of it. yes, there's adoption....but the adoption system in the US is SO screwed up that it would cause the same emotional stress to the child as it would if we were to keep it and not be able to financially afford having it. Abortion is scary, you feel lonely, and like you have no one to talk to. But remind yourself, you are not alone. There are women in your shoes every day. And for every person that makes you feel like crap for your decision, you've got one more right behind them that will be here for you and support you.

First off, I am really sorry you are facing this. I think the fact that you are posting here shows that you are kind of ambivalent about getting the abortion. Please dont' make this decision hastily - it will change your life. I have friends who had abortions who have deeply regretted it- one can't have children anymore because the abortion messed up her insides. Most states barely regulate abortion clinics, and if I were you I'd do some research on whether the clinic you want to go to has had any malpractice suits against it. Most women don't know about the risks from abortion. In one study, 24.3% of women who had abortions experience complications in future pregnancies. Complications include: excessive bleeding, premature delivery, cervical damage, and sterility. Here are some sites that give information on studies like this one: /> />

Also, the fact that you and your husband disagree on the abortion is a concern. There have been two studies that show that 80% of couples, including those who are married break up following an abortion, most often when one of the two wants to have the baby.

I know I am kind of supporting having the baby here, but its not because I'm some kind of fanatical pro-lifer. I have seen my friends go through hell after having abortions. My one friend was 16 when she had hers, she is 32 now and she still feels bad about it. She looks at her kids that she has and wonders what the other one would have been like.

Maybe you should read some of the stories under the I Had an Abortion section to see what it might be like. Or go here, there are a bunch of stories from women who had abortions here; />

If you aren't sure about the abortion when Friday rolls around, don't feel like you can't reschedule. I know someone who worked in an abortion clinic and she said that most clinics overbook because so many women cancel or reschedule are used to it.