Our President, A Champion For America

And yet, somehow, the rightwing gains while the left retreats.



Allofyou, be proud of your republican party, which ADMITS it WANTS America to fail, if that is what it takes to have republicans regain power.

BE PROUD of the treason in your ranks.

Be PROUD of the racists and their Teagagging signs.

Be PROUD of the way you destroyed Democracy with Bush v. Gore and your Who-e court.

And be PROUD of bankrupting the nation. Raygun, 41 and 43 spent 82% of the Debt.

Be PROUD...of serving your real masters in Tel Aviv, the only nation to fire on an American warship in time of peace, the only nation to sell our nuclear secrets to the Soviets, the nation with the LARGEST contingent of spies in America. So many the FBI has a separate detachment dedicated JUST to containing the damage the Franklins, Rosens and Weissmann's have done to the national security.

Be PROUD of being an ignorant slug!!

so now that the whole story is out.



Sherrod was wronged, she did nothing wrong. like breitbart, i could piece together words and sham anybody too.

Thanks, Annie. Very little in that article was surprising to me, I follow this stuff closely enough that I already knew about 95% of it.



Doesn't change the fact that I'm pissed, or the fact that I have every right to be, considering how unbelievably stupid so many people insist on being. I realize they have busy lives and don't have a lot of time to follow all of this stuff.... but that excuse only goes so far. Because these things MATTER, they have a quantifiable EFFECT on their lives. They owe it to their children to spend some time learning what the hell is actually happening, and to stop ignoring the news.

Thus the attraction for some extremists for the romantic Cuban. Castro went in there and got it done! But the price is too high....I'll go for a messy democracy over a dictatorship anyday.



Vendetta, you might be interested in this: http://www.thenation.com/print/article/37165/kabuki-democracy

Obama has lost liberals. I am Exhibit A of that fact, just ask Annie about what I've been saying the last few months. This has destroyed his poll numbers. Independents are also less than impressed.

Allofus, apparently, the biggest fault of people who don't agree with you is that they don't agree with you for their own reasons.



"nothing stopping his agenda from going through".... Nothing?!!! Obama is not a dictator with an agenda he forces upon the American people. It is the task of the legislators to legislate. The fact is, law making is far from a pretty process anymore, especially in a country whose politics are carried out in a circus arena of savage personal destruction.



Mrs. Sherrod was a target of some of the worst fighters in this arena. That video was deliberately edited to discredit her and the Obama administration. Unfortunately, officials jumped the gun in revulsion of this crafted smear. They should have known better.



Yes, you are correct. It is true, the left is just as free to operate in this manner. We could set up our own Fox smear machine...But we aren't constituted with the nature needed to tolerate the taint that kind of crap leaves on everything it touches.



and polls....polls are skewed to go in the direction of the question asked. Never base your predictions on polls. And keep this in mind, the left is extremely disappointed in Obama. He has turned out to be much more centrist then they like. Those polls could reflect their disapproval. But, trust me, they will not vote for a Republican come NOvember. So if I were you, I wouldn't count my chickens just yet.

As I have read through these comments it amazes me how hypocritical those who supposedly support Obama are. You chastise anyone who says anything negative fact or fiction and uphold anyone who agrees with you fact or fiction. For the over a year of pres. Obama's presidency there was absolutely nothing stopping any of his agenda from going through except his own party. Republicans had not enough votes to stop anything. As of right now they still can they fight amongst themselves. And the lady the Obama administration fired was formally fired before Fox news story hit the airwaves. Also if it was doctored it would easily be refuted, she said she was simply misquoted, that is the left's way of saying you caught me. The right lie, the left is misquoted.

And Obama has not been over 50% approval by any reputable poll in many months. Nothing in the federal government has.

I know you hate the right wing talk show host and commentators but seriously why not just get someone from the left to do it and do it better. It is what free America is all about. There are over a dozen news agency on cable these days and yet Fox news can bring down all these left leaning organizations and yet you say they are nothing and full of lies. By the way Acorn employees currently under arrest or being investigated is somewhere around 300. No one but the right would follow the story and it lead to many fraudulent individuals doing things that were not legal by any stretch of the imagination.

Look disagree if you like but stick to the facts and not name calling and slander. Just because you get emotional and upset does not mean you have a better argument or opinion about something. It usually just means you have nothing intelligent left to say. The facts always come out and the facts always trump politics and the spin everyone tries to give it. Try going with straight facts instead of innuendos and malicious statements. It only makes your argument seem small and petty.

A fall at last of the wall of lies called the GOP!!

FACT: who did smilingfaces claim to be the "trickster" , PLEASE!

Regarding my comment of July 19th at 3:03pm: They're at it again, same old story, same tired tactic...Obfuscation and deliberate and dishonest out of context manipulation!!!.



They almost destroyed an innocent woman when Breitbart, the guy who edited those bogus Acorn Prostitute tapes, edited a speech by Shirley Sherrad to make it look like she's a racist!



Complete obfuscation in order to ring a clarion call.... "Look, everybody. LOok! The Obama Adminstration is "racist"



Now the right wing media is attempting to spin the story and focus on the mistake of the Obama administration for firing her in response to their doctored story! Can you say disingenuous! What a big pile of BS! They repeatedly broadcast this doctored tape and wrung their hands at this scandalous story in the first place! They are evil, unethical and immoral......and can not be trusted. The right wing has an agenda, and they believe their desired end justifies any manufactured means...Obama is "liar"....yeah, sure.



You can't make this stuff up....oh, wait a minute....But they can! And will!

And the best news?



Americans MOSTLY agree, Obama is doing the best he can against REPIG obstructionism!!!!



http://www.pollingreport.com/obama_fav.htm



Obama STILL over 50% approval, compared with Reagan in 1982 polling 38%!!!!



This is the beginning of a WAVE of Democratic Administrations, and before the decade ends in 2019, there will be no more than 3 REPIGS on the Supreme court, preventing any more Bush v. Gore crimes!!!

colors? whats wrong with showing colors? whats the color of sour grapes? whats the color of succesfully getting the job done? whats the color of the dust the gop eats as progress pass's them by? whats the color of the sky that did not fall when health care reform was passed? the colors look beautiful to me !!!!!!!

Oh, give us some slack. Please. Forums like this are a release for much passion and frustration. You have no idea how hard it is to hear the savage way Palin, Beck, Limbaugh, Hannity, Levin and the entire right wing media rip apart the man who you sent to Washington to accomplish exactly what he is doing.

Well now that the conversation has taken such a civilized turn, I believe I'll just let your friends show their colors.

Married an Puck....The "Obama is a liar, liar pants on fire" characterization is a common tactic of the right wing. They love to do it. But the charge is not effectively convincing, in my opinion. The tone is unattractive, petulant and whiney. It only speaks to like minded people. It does not convince.



This is why. Maybe its just me, but isolating Obama's every utterance out of context of the sentence, paragraph, subject or time he said it makes it look like there's some sort of collective learning disability going on. Hey! I think I'm on to something here! Palin and Beck suffer horribly from exactly this kind of syntax dyslexia. Their spoken sentences are often nothing but disjointed phrases of outrage and accusation, slapped together with no grammatical construction to give a clue to logical flow of thought. Maybe they craft a homage to the sound byte. But, we all know it, this practice of deconstruction is a deliberate obfuscation.

FACT: our President said he would reform finance, he DID



FACT: banks are now scrambling and inventing new ways to gouge the consumer

FACT: the pig with lipstick quit as govenor to reap the bountiful harvest

fact, the pig with lipstick supported the bridge to nowhere, even though she denies it.



FACT: she lied

"believe he is a trickster" whats up with that faces,is this a opinion? sounds like it to me, hmmmm



just the facts, the fact is that he said he would reform health care, guess what, he DID, sorry you are so bitter that now people with pre-existing conditions can now recieve the option they need, and please note i said option, you obstinate thinkers cry wolf of goverment ownership, but in FACT it is a option, do you now buy your insurace from the goverment, no, i didn't think so, you probably buy yours from the same privately owned companies as before. RIGHT/WRONG? tell us the facts please. not your misguided ways of disbelieving.

Married2filth, that last lie of yours about Bush and WMD is so sickening even YOU should have some shame.

Need I remind you of the 2002 Downing Street Memo's, recording Bush conversations iwth Blair?



"The determination to war has already been made, and the intelligence is being fixed around the policy"



I swear, you'd rather go up on the roof to lie to us than stand on the street and tell us the truth!

married2filth, you lying sack of scum. UNLIKE the rest of the world, Bush had the truth about ZERO WMD as of Dec. 2001. He lied,

You DO REMEMBER the forged Nigerian Uranium lie, right?

Forged by Michael Ledeen, zionist of the worst order, and traitor to his homeland, the United States.

But Bush knew this, which is why Wilson had to reveal it, and Cheney had to give it to the Wall Street Journal, the post date a Bush order to declassify, in order to stay out of prison.

Because the same story is in two groups I posted my two cents worth on the other thread. Oh well. I'll say it again. I'm sorry that you can't see through Obama. Some folks aren't doing the math. It doesn't pan out. When your out put exceeds your income your up keep becomes your downfall.

Health care-not cost effective

stimulus-not cost effective

cash for clunkers-

Green jobs-

socialism-

the wars-

fiscal policy- idiotic

Look at the numbers. Put down the kool aide, and pay attention to what the heck is going on.

He lies. He's got Bush beat all to hell in the falsehood department. Check it out....unless google has been taken over by the right.



**What does my daughters song have to do with anything?

I don't believe that Obama is lying about what he wants to happen but there is always the right wing fanatics who want minority rule always trying to demonize the logical path to recovery.

If you want to see lies look at TEA party speeches, Limbaugh, Gingrich, Palin and a host of other rabid spewers of hate speech.

There is nothing socialistic about Obama nor is he far left.

Obama is a moderate.

When one talks about Hitler in the same breath...it shows a lack of understanding.

Hilter and Mussolini were fascists which more closely resembles Bush Jr.

Fascists are all about empowering corporations with tax cuts etc.

Obama has humbled certain corporations and is pushing hard against the financial institutions to ensure a less criminal approach to speculation.

I believe there needs to be stronger regulations and a commission to ride the financial institutions and corporations hard.

Once he has this in place I would like to see regulations against Monsanto and other corporations who are out to corner markets so they can control seed stocks once they have poisoned the world with their herbicides. Other corporations have equally sinister plans in place.



Thank you LilAnnie for hanging tough against the BS

Good... a chance to mull the thoughts. I mean no harm and just call what I see. BTW I proudly celebrated (though I voted for his opponent) Obama's election with many of my associates. I had and have high hopes as I believed he would slide center as the intelligent man he is. What has happened has been rather shocking to me...but I have always watched politics of both parties with very open eyes.

Married, You do pack a whallop of a comment!!! So much to respond about! But I have to get ready for an outing that I have been looking forward to for a few weeks...Yipee! But, believe me, I have a lot to say about what you said. LOL! I will be back!

Sorry Annie, I have never seen a President behave the way this one does. They called Bush a liar when he simply agreed with most of the world and former President Clinton over the war in Iraq - but this guy in office now stands in front of the American people and lies through his teeth! You really need to watch him a bit and consider his current language in relation to his previously stated missions. You have to remember that he is a Constitutional scholar and so he knows how the "car got wrecked" You have to notice that he spent the summer blaming the 39 republicans in the Senate for holding up health care... He is disingenuous at the very least. "Been on it since Day 1" Give us all a break - we're not idiots... we understand that there was nothing that could be done on day one ... but let's face it ... the oil spill does assist him in a number of policy ventures he would like to promote!



Do you agree with the notion our President encourages … the Tea Party is more dangerous to America than say the New Black Panther Movement? He is a slick Chicago politician and has surrounded himself with some very evil men and women. In no way would I compare him to Adolf Hitler except to say... study history … Hitler was surrounded by people that make his values seem saintly.

(hand out for shaking) That is shall indeed be! I am kind of looking forward to it!!! I am certainly dreading the campaigning that will lead up to it though. That is going to be very dirty and annoying on all sides!

Well, let's shake hands then cause there's fighting at the polls this November! Neither side is going to lay down and surrender....it should be interesting!

Thank you Annie for getting us back on track. You are right, he is not a trickster in that he has told us everything he was going to do. I do not believe he is evil incarnate, but I do believe that he is dangerous for our country because I do not agree with his goals and agenda and do not believe that they serve what our country stands for. I know plenty of people who agree with me and plenty who agree with you.. I do, however, believe that he is a trickster in how he gets things through in spite of what the majority of Americans say they want, but he does have help from Congress on that. I also believe that several powerful people in Congress are pure bullies. I recognize that he speaks for many Americans, but there are many he does not speak for as well, and I am one of those.

Yes, that would be opinion and that is why we have a 2 party system and checks and balances system. This is what is great about our country---we can have all of these opinions. What often forms our opinions are the facts and unfortunately also the misrepresentation of facts (either wrong facts, or opinions presented as facts), and this is where true debating comes in---presenting facts to persuade the others' opinions. One of the methods of debating is to discredit the witness and get off task by leading the debate elsewhere which is what has happened here. We are no longer discussing the story or the group but the thread is onto this. I am not pointing fingers about how it got here or why it is here, that is not my point, but instead, noticing that it has, indeed, happened. Back to the story now...?