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To The Ppl Who Do Not Like Obama

So theyres a group called "i believe obama is dangerous for the country" out theyre.i constantly made post and staements on theyre stories.well im sure theyre tired of us invading theyre space.so while they get to say all the bad things about the president,heres your chance to post good articles and things u feel he has done so far.this group better pile up fast cause they have quite the headstart.and plz,plz,plz.no name calling and hatred in my group.thnx.

puck
thesec
metoo
and all others.when some ppl make some post i hope to see the other side of view theyre as well.youre all invited.
lets see if ppl who love Obama so much has the same energy to post something good that hes done.
good weekend to u all!!
SINISTERMEMPHISTO SINISTERMEMPHISTO 26-30, M 48 Responses Jun 3, 2011

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I'll have to agree.....somewhat with you sky12345, I don't think theres a politician alive that isn't hypocritical most of the time.



You got that right mach28211, everything is different when it comes to conservatives!

Conservatives have no room to talk about hypocrisy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

gemmin66105 you have to remember....when liberals do the abandoning it is ok. It is only when a Conservative does it that it is so terrible. The hypocrisy of the left becomes more and more evident as each day goes by.

you mean abandoned like wasserman shultz, or obama and hillary while compaining? You can do better than that.

Oh, you are right, how about Alaska? They seem to like the former leader of that state...the one that abandoned her post.

They'll never come out here - they hate California. Way too many liberals!

Hahahahahaha, Oh that is an awesome theory, Undertone. I can just see the Democratic National Committee sitting around making plans to discredit the Tea Party. You know, it is funny because you got all of these people saying, "No Taxes" on sidewalks, near street lights and stop signs on a street, holding up pictures of their kids in military uniforms, enjoying the fact that the streets are not being flooded because of the sewer system...with signs that say, "No Taxes". Bwahahaha!



Yeah, like the DNC really needs to plant, what did you call them, "agent provocateurs" to discredit them...they do a fine job of discrediting themselves!



I propose this, we move all of the Teapublicans to, I don't know, California. Give them a year of not paying taxes, in return, the government provides no services, no protection, no sewage, no water treatment, nothing. How many Teapublicans do you think will be left at the end of the year?

Those were "agent provocateurs", planted to discredit the tea party.

So y'all want to discredit and bash a Liberal for poor spelling and grammar? I say it goes both ways, here is a little slide show for you of Teapublicans and their signs. Have fun bashing these people too, or are you just a bunch of hypocrites?



http://www.flickr.com/photos/pargon/sets/72157623594187379/show/

Are you calling me an idiot, WetCoupleBigD?

Hahaha! Not only illiterate in terms of grammar & spelling, but can't even manage to post here without posting the answer three times by mistake! Ah, the illiterate calling others "talking idiots", gotta love it! Thanks for the laugh, schmuck! :)

wetcouplebigd you caught me on my way out the door.nice timing.if this was a week ago i would chew you a new arsehole.all i can say to u is iyes,bad spelling and grammar,thnx for noticing.like i said im going to find something more interesting to do.its ppl like u that make this whole entire group look like a bunch of whiny mad no substance talking idiots.and "wet"-hve er nce dy!

wetcouplebigd you caught me on my way out the door.nice timing.if this was a week ago i would chew you a new arsehole.all i can say to u is iyes,bad spelling and grammar,thnx for noticing.like i said im going to find something more interesting to do.its ppl like u that make this whole entire group look like a bunch of whiny mad no substance talking idiots.and "wet"-hve er nce dy!

wetcouplebigd you caught me on my way out the door.nice timing.if this was a week ago i would chew you a new arsehole.all i can say to u is iyes,bad spelling and grammar,thnx for noticing.like i said im going to find something more interesting to do.its ppl like u that make this whole entire group look like a bunch of whiny mad no substance talking idiots.and "wet"-hve er nce dy!

Ah, you have to love it when an Obama supporter purposely joins an anti-Obama group to be able to argue, and then by his posting shows himself to be basically illiterate in terms of both grade-school level grammar AND spelling! You go! Are you typical of Obama supporters? :)

There is always going to be political double speak, if you support the president then he does most things right, if the republicans agree with it, instead of giving credit to the president they give credit to congress or some event that may or may not have led up to something good happening in our country. It was the same when Bush was in office and it will be the same for the next president.



For instance, all of the republicans are trying to blame Obama for the gas prices when they know he has no control of this, but when Bush was in office, they did not blame him for the sky rocketing prices in July of 2008...that was apparently Obama's fault too.





http://www.bspcn.com/2010/10/18/things-obama-has-done/

I read through this entire thread and didn't see any positive articles.



Given how much the press is on his side, I doubt there are no positive articles, but you won't find people who believe in him.



He came in unexamined by the press - not the people have seen him and they have been left wanting.

*winks* YEr a quick learner.... MOSTLY! ;D lol.

And gotta love that possitive, hopeful attitude! MUAH!

EMERALD U R SO RIGHT.AND I WILLINGLY STEPPED INTO THE RING.NO HURT FEELINGS HERE.AFTER WEEKS OF DEBATING AND MY BOSS ON MY ARSE I THINK I'LL JUST DO MY WORK AND QUIETLY LAUGH AT THE CRAZY CONFESSIONS.NEVERTHELESS IT WAS GOOD TO SEE PPL STILL HAVE THE HEART TO DEBATE OPENLY AND CIVIL.WE DONT ALL AGREE BUT AT LEAST WE ALL AGREE THAT SOMETHINGS WRONG.WITH THAT SAID B 4 I GO IM GONNA MAKE A GROUP (IF THEYRE ISNT 1 ALREADY) CALLED "I WANT AMERICANS TO BE OURAGED AT THE GOVT-THE WHOLE GOVT!".NAH THAT NAME SUCKS BUT I'LL THINK OF SOMETHING.ALSO I DID MAKE A POSITIVE GROUP FOR OBAMA.IM HOPING PPL FILL IT UP WITH POSITIVES.

Dear sky12345 -- The American system of Federal Government was in fact designed to achieve that exact outcome. The concept is that only those things for which there is a broad consensus are able to get passed and enacted into law. This is true whether you are a liberal or a conservative.



We recently, and at a few other times in our history, have seen the consequences of when one party controls both houses of Congress and the White House -- Trillion-dollar bailouts for banks, insurance companies, investment houses, and Union-dominated car companies otherwise unable to compete in the global market; all of this in addition to unconstrained expansion of the EPA, Carbon Taxes, and generally unacceptable and unconstitutional expansion of the Federal Government's power.



I have no doubt that liberals can cite similar examples that occurred when Republicans held unchecked power (although in the period since FDR took office, that has been extremely rare). In fact, if you look at the history, some of the most prosperous times our nation has enjoyed have been those times when power was split and little legislation was passed -- THAT is according to the founder's intent and design.



As far as Obama is concerned, he came to office with a personal agenda that integrates Social Justice, anti-colonialism, and diminished American power and influence in the world. But, as is generally true, the Presidency has little power, except when the president usurps constitutional authority from the legislature. It is the legislature that is able (or not) to implement the programs and agendas introduced and promoted by the president. So, while I adamantly oppose almost everything Obama supports and promotes, it is the Democratic legislature that held the power and authority, and the blame, for what has happened in the US since they took over both houses of congress in 2006. Obama, like GW Bush, is a figurehead who really holds little power to do or change anything without the active support of the legislature.



The President's greatest power is his power to appoint Federal judges and Supreme Court Justices, who serve for life and have the ability to influence and change law far out of proportion to their number. Again, as long as reasonable balance exists in the courts, little is done, little is changed, and sanity reins. In essence today, the US Supreme Court is split 4 Liberal, 4 Conservative, and one swing vote moderate, Justice Anthony Kennedy. This is a good balance and while I may not agree with everything the court does, sanity generally prevails. However, should Obama have the opportunity to replace one of the conservatives with a liberal, our nation will pay the price for the next twenty years, because the court will then be unbalanced to the liberal extreme.

*'Mama' lubbinly repremands* Sin, I won't even argue the political aspects of this story. Fact is, you kinda "asked for it" by placing THIS story in THIS group. Looks like you stepped on some toes by putting this "Let's Level Things Out A Bit" story here. This group was for those that believe Obama is bad for the country. Not, Who says yea or nay. This story should have been posted in a group that SUPPORTS and recognizes the good of Obama for this country. The only way to have a balanced conversation on this controversial subject is to create a seperate group that allows for the answers to be yes or no. See?? ;) But I lubs ya anyways, bless yer heart for tryin!

even i agree with that puck.i am leaving politics alone for awhile.im going to read anything but politics unless u guys drop some good bombs.thnx to "the sec" for those links.i found a really good article on the future of energy.this might be the big one.



www.blacklightpower.com

Here here Puck!!

Well said!

ah mach always full of ranting,good to have u hear.



its clear we have all amde up our minds how we feel about this.one of the best things about these kind of open debates is everyone gets t bring something fresh that might enlighten another.we may never change each other's minds but at least we can live in the same country,disagree,but still live.i gotta say u guys had some serious problems on obama mentioned-my fave was the ipod comment.that really makes me think of unemployment.those r things that happened.he gets embarrassed not us.bak in america we got bigger problems.obama will be relelected.and i bet alot of ppl in this forum are benefitting from things he did.



anyone called a racist for disagreeing should kno to beware those kinds of ppl.those who come with insults usually have nothing worthy to add.



idk y i bother wit this politic crap.noone freaking votes anymore in this country anyway.....

This particular debate has come up with every single president since George Washington!
It's just like having a favorite sports team except the fate of the country is at stake rather than points on a scoreboard. It's the same with Patriotism. I'm not ashamed of being patriotic. Of course I think this country is the best, It's MY country! I don't think any of us have any magic words that will change the mindset of the others. Something can happen though. I was an extreme left wing dead head hippie. I sang protest songs to thousands at the University of Arizona in Tucson during the first Iraq invasion, but about 6 years ago I started noticing something. I noticed intolerance, closed mindedness, and a double standard that I hadn't seen before. I actually think that good old fashion democrats became something else, something somewhat sinister....progressives. People that always leave messes at their gatherings, people that are always the first to break things and throw things at protests. People who can't see their own prejudice when they imply with their policies that minorities are not as smart of self sufficient as they are. people who seem to want to fundamentally change America, free trade, capitalism, and the constitution,- people who have a seeming hatred for people who have been successful in life, (exaggeration for the sake of emphasis.) people who want to find fault with this country at every turn.
I'm not putting everybody in the same box, though. My best friends in the whole world are liberal, and they don't do any of these things. Anyway over the course of time I went from being a left wing extremist to leaning a little to the right- and believe me, I only lean a little to the right. Someone called it, "being mugged by reality".

Just to ad to the embarassing part, reference the boxing up and sending back a bust of Winston Churchill, from the oval office, a gift from England. then how about the Ipod fiasco, where he gave an IPOD filled with....wait for it,....his speaches to the Queen of England, what a guy!

Wow, a leader that's "not embarassing" that one escapes me, he has numerous times embarrased us all,and it's only been 2 years! Bright, hmmm, he hasn't shown me that, and since his records are all locked down, how can that be proven. Oh yeah, take away his teleprompter! That will do it!, Oh yeah, it has, did, one of those embarassing moments we missed. Thoughtful leader, oh that's why he passes things that people don't want, that he knows aren't going to work, then excempts all elected government officials from it, as well as many other union buddies, yeah, I guess that's pretty thoughtful of him.

Gentleman, okay, ask Benjamin Netenyahu about that, the first time he blew him off, and the time he blew him off when he was addressing our Congress. The rest of that hodge podge of obama worship gibberish was to far out there to even address. He has no tact, no ability to articulate issues (without a teleprompter) and human grace???? Oh please, the boy came from chicago and, well, he belongs there, know what I mean.

Well we can agree on political lunacy, that I too am tired of, but I cannot for the life of me say that it isn't going full tilt right now.

Myself... I don't focus on how well they can articulate.



I focus on performance.



Who cares how well the can speak? Because, they only tell you what you want to hear anyway.



And BTW... if obama was a conservative... the media would hammer him to death on how he CAN"T speak...

I see that another brilliant liberal has chimed in. I know that they are liberal because I didn't understand a word they said.

I find it refreshing to have elected a president that is not embarrassing, that is bright, articulate, and appears to be a thoughtful leader and a gentleman politician. I don't blindly agree with his every gesture, but, I appreciate his ability to articulate the issues, his personal human grace, his mind, his tact. There seems to be a shortage of these traits in politics. I'm sick of political lunacy.