What Are Your 5 Specific Demands For Pres Obama And Congress?

As we all know Joe Stack flew his plane into an IRS building and killed himself....after he set his own home on fire with his wife and children inside.

Upon hearing this a disturbing number of people on message boards all overt he internet celebrated this guy as a hero! They said that it was wrong to kill innocent people, but adamantly insisted that the government "drove him to do it." They kept insisting that our government is out of control and oppressive.

Just a few quick points: Joe Stack owned his own home, had enough disposable income to take flying lessons and BUY an airplane! Not seeing how he was "oppressed" by the government -- but apparently a huge number of people in America are on the verge of violence. They keep insisting that a bloody revolution is necessary because our government won't "listen" to them and they refuse to take the abuse anymore.

Okay. Fine.

Please list the 5 SPECIFIC demands you want to make to President Obama and Congress.

What are the 5 SPECIFIC actions that President Obama and Congress could take over the next 3 years to make you feel you've been "heard" and that the country is heading in the right direction.

When I say specific I mean be specific. Do not just say "Lower taxes!" Nope. You have to be SPECIFIC and cite your actual income range and state specificlly what you think a fair tax rate would be.

Congress can't "listen" if you don't say anything....so list your 5 specific demands citing specific actions that Congress can take to make you happy.

niceguyinhell niceguyinhell
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10 Responses Feb 19, 2010

Fair Tax or Flat Tax, either will be better than what we have. It deletes many loop holes and would generate a base of what a business could expect. This in itself will ease the fear of many, that would like to expand or start a business, as they could plan with confidence.<br />
It would also put a strain on the corps that everyone seems to think are the "bad boys". <br />
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I am not any type of economic whiz, but I can see that what is going on now, is not real fair, and seems to be getting worse.

Yes, by "fair Tax" I was referring to the national sales tax. The list is virtually endless on the government interference which could potentially be avoided/abolished perminately by doing away with this current progressive taxation.

NGIH- More often than not Fair Tax is usually a reference to the movement supporting replacing income tax with a national sales tax. Hopefully you'll get an answer from the other posters if that is what they referring to as well.<br />
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I'd like to see our representatives put away the rhetoric, spin, talking points, labels, especially the labels and all the other political BS for a while.

What is the FairTax? is that like a flat tax?

All of these ideas that have been presented here have good promise.<br />
I would like to add one more that has been brought up since the plane incident in Austin.<br />
How about instead of the tax payer having to bear the burden of proof, in tax disputes, how about the IRS have the burden of proof. This has been tried and the number of cases dropped dramitically. <br />
I am not advocating tax cheating, but I do know of cases that peoples lives have been all but ruined by the IRS just through the process of trying to protect themselves.

# 1Fair Tax #2 the recently mentioned bill which prohibits any law or policy upon we, the peasants which is not also enforced upon the ruling class elitists in Washington, #3 Cut government spending across the board to extreme measures (like Waren G. Harding did in the worst economical downturn in the nations history), #4 would be a bill I heard about several months ago (in reguards to the socialized health care bill we recently dodged) which stated no bill can contain more verbiage that the Constitution in it's original form, and #5 term limits in both the Senate and the house. I know that the threat of being booted out of Washington is the only thing that has thus far saved us from Socialized medicine but I still oppose carreer politicians.

Definitely citizens need to take a more proactive role.<br />
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I believe often the problem on both sides of the aisle is that we as citizens are too vague.<br />
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For example: whatever your stance on illegal immigrants is…we can all agree that simply shouting, “Do something about immigration!” really isn’t specific enough. Politicians are lazy and fearful. They know that doing nothing is always the safest course of action because that’s (usually) the best way not to **** anyone off. We all know they like to hold debates and hold committee meetings on issues because that creates the illusion of “doing” something…but we all know talking an issue to death isn’t the same thing as writing a specific bill and holding a vote.<br />
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So I think we need to create a List of Demands for our politicians. The only way to hold a politician accountable is to say: Look! You were elected to do one job and one job only. You are to present legislation that achieves these specific goals and you are to vote YES in order to pass it into law. If you do not do that during the course of your term you simply won’t be re-elected.<br />
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Right now we have a bunch of people in Washington earning $200,000 a year for doing nothing but sitting around and really producing any results. <br />
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If I were a Tea Party Organizer…I would create a List of Demands and then hold a march on Washington and get on TV.<br />
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I think we can all agree that writing politicians accomplishes nothing…BUT I do think they respond if large numbers of people gather, speak specific demands into TV cameras and make it very clear that re-election hinges on obeying.<br />
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Thought I personally don’t agree with the Tea Party people politically…I do envy their unique position. They have the attention of the nation and the attention of politicians. The disappointing thing is that they are squandering it by not actually presenting a short, coherent list of demands. They are made about the bailouts and healthcare….but without presenting specific demands on what they DO want to happen their momentum is kind of petering out into nothing.<br />
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It’s like when a boss stomps out to the shop floor and starts screaming, “We’re losing money! Do something! Make money NOW!”<br />
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The employees just look at each other and say, “Okay! Um, I guess.” And have no idea what the boss wants them to do.<br />
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We’re the boss. We need to give our employees (the politicians) specific instructions.

One of the best ideas Newt Gingrich ever came up with was his "Contract With America."<br />
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The Contract with America was a brilliant idea because he said, “Okay. This is exactly the issues we’re going to focus on and these are the specific actions we plan to take.”<br />
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So whether you agreed or disagreed you knew exactly what the plan was.<br />
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I think it would be a good idea if citizens proposed their own “List of Demands” to present to our Congressmen.<br />
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Right now I propose that the problem with feeling “not heard” is that we’re being too vague with what we want Congress to do. If we narrowed it down to 5 specific issues (like War, Taxes, Welfare, etc) and then presented a specific list of actions we’d like our officials to take then we’d be in a much better position to work with our elected officials. You can’t really say “lower taxes” because that’s too vague and 4 years later your Congressmen could just say, “Congratulations! I lowered tax rate XYZ from 29.9 to 29.8 percent!” It would be better to be more specific.<br />
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Right now it’s just an angry mob shouting “Fix things!” and not really saying how or what or anything specific.<br />
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I think a reverse Contract with America – a list of demands presented to our officials – would go a long way. And if they fail to meet our expectations? Then they don’t get our vote when re-election comes up.<br />
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This seems like a more practical idea for implementing change then burning your own house down and flying a plane into an IRS building.

In terms of legislation, do you think that our elected Representatives and Senators actually write legislation themselves....actually sit at a desk and type up a bill to be voted on....or do you think they simply have "think tanks" and lobbyists write it form them?

Are these precise enough?<br />
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1 - Since they will spend money they do not have, spend it on repairing and replacing old infrastructure and developing new stuff. It may be worth the federal government participating with states on some projects because they benefit the entire country. Do this by capping social spending at about 50 to 75% of its current level. Never raise it again. Responsibility for charity actions must largely return to state and local governments and charities. <br />
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2 - Get out of states' and individuals' business. Dismantle the Departments of Health and Human Services, Housing and Urban Development, Education, and Homeland Security.<br />
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3 - No more aid to foreign countries. It is good to have a sympathetic heart, but since the money spent on other places currently comes from US citizens who are young or have yet to be born, let's stop spending it. It's really not our's to spend.<br />
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4 - Lower capital gains tax to 15% across the board, no matter how long you have held the security.<br />
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5 - Flat 15% income tax with NO exceptions, including mortgage interest. 15% for business entities, as well. Or, a national sales tax of 0.5% on all transactions, whether physical goods or services, no exceptions. But not both.