The Bible Was Written By Men...

...and men are fallible. Although they were presumably sanctioned directly by God in many cases, the factor of individual perception should always be taken into account. It's mind boggling when you consider just how many individual perceptions were involved in the creation of this book. Also, why were the apocryphal writings ultimately excluded? What were the criteria? Who decided which books and what material made the final cut? Granted, I believe that the wisdom of the Bible as a whole, particularly that of the New Testament, can be chalked up to common sense guidance for living in most cases, even for non-believers, but I believe that it was intended by God and its authors to be used as a learning tool and to serve as a general guideline for living to be applied at the believer's discretion. I believe that you can appreciate the value of something more when you approach it from an open minded, inquisitive point of view rather than just passively believing every word you read.

sparkledust sparkledust
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14 Responses Mar 13, 2010

If you compare and contrast different bibles, Hebrew texts, etc. There's a lot of room for interpretation, and your interpretation might not be mine.....nor King James'....*hugs* j

"...and men are fallible. Although they were presumably sanctioned directly by God in many cases, the factor of individual perception should always be taken into account. It's mind boggling when you consider just how many individual perceptions were involved in the creation of this book."<br />
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2 Timothy 3:16<br />
All sc<x>ripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctorine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness<br />
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For some personal reason, I believe all the miracles of Christ, but I can't accept some of the old testament stories because of their scientific impossibility<br />
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Proverbs 3:5-7<br />
Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths. Be not wise in thine own eyes: fear the Lord, and depart from evil.<br />
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The Bible and every other holy book is metaphorical, and mythology, not truth as fact in this physical world. It is that way for teaching purposes for people to use as a jumping point for their intuition to guide them.<br />
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1 Corinthians 3:18-19<br />
Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise. For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.

Also the scrolls have been revisited since the interpetation of the priest not editing of the preist with different interpetations like NIV . You are right abou your search. Look at Saul or Paul, his heart was sincere but misdirected and God revealed himself and Paul changed, did a 180. Even the brother of Jesus, James was not a believer unti the resurrection of his half brother. Peter question the diety until the resurrection, Thomas doubted until he felt the scars. So until it becomes real to you, its normal.............We ain't perfect

Sparkledust sorry I didn't mean to sound judgemental I was answering the questions I pondered myself and how I moved in a certain direction. I didn't call you a non christian because you struggled with answers. I'm sure it was hard in the 1500's to decided what went in and what stayed on the shelf. Old Testament was divided into historical and phrophet events and most have been provn to be accurate. New Testament was first part was accounts of the life of Jesus either by 1st hand accounts or someone who told the person that had 1st hand accounts, So they had to be written within a century of the death of Christ basically. Some books left out could not be proven or had no historical accounts. Some were written but were considered to befalse because the person who supposedly wrote the letter was actually dead when it was written like Judith Iscriot. Many of the books were the teachings of Christ from the Apostles, the one sent by Jesus. I sure some left out have valuable teachings but might not fit in the certain guidelines. The King James version has been edited I think 100of times because of clerical errors and I'm sure questionable interpetations. The intent really hasn't changed , God reconciling with man. I'm not a Bible theologan but someone who seeks the truth just as you. <br />
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I say seek and you will find. ASk God to reveal Himself to you in a real way to you, Again I am no one to tell you what you are and what you are not, that's above my pay grade, I leave that to God. I pray God reveals what you seek and then test it with the Word because the Devil can also reveal himself and give false testamony so test everything God doesnt change.

just a note to my comment just posted, keep going sparkledust, keep that open minded thought process, follow your intuition. you are so far more advanced on your spiritual path than most of these others, most people attending church and listening to dogma unquestionably. i'm proud to know you, and have you as my friend.

I'm sorry, but most of what these people are saying is so close to the idea of the truth, and yet so lost in the dogma of what they have heard and read as "accepted historical tradition", which I have spoken about alot here at EP. The Bible and every other holy book is metaphorical, and mythology, not truth as fact in this physical world. It is that way for teaching purposes for people to use as a jumping point for their intuition to guide them. Religion and it Books, are political tools to organize and structure a tribe, culture or society, and to manipulate power for the few who are the priests, pastors, or anyone else whose ego needs to feel controlling. It is not that the teachings cannot be useful, but the acceptance of dogma at the expense of the individuals own intuitive process is why nation states use god on their side to kill all the infidels on the other. god is within, not somewhere without in the sky, space or whatever hell dogma of anykind wants to put Him. Ignorance is the blessing of the priestly hierarchy in any religion, and there are some serious followers here criticicizing sparkledust's open minded inquiry into the nature of man/woman. God is not human in form, to anthropomorphize him is ignorance at man's/woman's best/worst...

Interesting topic that you have posed. There are sooo many interpretations to that book that we call the we call the Bible.<br />
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What frustrates me is that a lot of believers that their interpretation of it is the ONLY correct one.<br />
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Accept no one else's version read, study and understand it as only you can for yourself.<br />
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Some don't believe that i'm a "true Christian" because i personally don't believe in a literal physical "hell". But i came to my conclusion after much study.

Of course everything in the bible is gonna be difficult to believe if we based everything with our current understanding of science. But spiritual things are spiritually discerned. When we talk about God, we are talking about miracles that we cannot begin to understand. God is not human. If he was, then all those stories would not be scientifically possible. But with God, ALL things are possible.

If you question god that only proves your relationship with him

I'm a Christian, and I agree with what Sparkledust said in her story. I've had a lot of Christian people disapprove of my views on my religion, but what I believe is between myself and God. I am not afraid of speculation.

So basically you're implying that because I have questions and because I don't believe that every single word of the Bible from cover to cover is 100% accurate, flawless, and utterly relevant at all times, I must not be a Christian? I think that's pretty shortsighted, wildcierra. The point that I was trying to make, and the point that I've been struggling against my zealous family with all my life, is that you CAN believe in God and still have questions. And although the Bible has a common theme throughout, you still have to take into account that it was written by a group of men and streamlined and edited by the Catholic church....who has historically displayed themselves to be a mass propoganda machine after their own agenda. A large group of books didn't make the final cut. Why? There is nothing inherently wrong with daring to ask "why?". I don't believe that God wants us to sit back and never ponder what He's all about. If I honestly believed that He was the sort of God that couldn't stand up to scrutiny, I wouldn't find him worth believing in at all. Faith doesn't have to be passive and blindly accepting of all things. I think that attitude is what creates zealots and hypocrites. I'll never stop believing in God, but I'll never stop asking why and trying to find answers.

It's a collection of writings compiled by the nicene council. Did God really have a man stoned to death for picking up firewood on the Sabbath? Did God really command the children of Israel to kill babies?<br />
Check out Jeremiah 8:8....

Did God create a grown man and did He do it in a day. If so could He not make a world in 6. Does God have limits if so how could He create the world if not why not in 6 days. Do you find it interesting that with all the authors of the Bible, the languages they speak, over a period of 1500 years and most never even spoke to each other that the Bible has one theme, "Fall of man and his redemption to God" . See my problem is this, if I can't believe the Bible's truths then I can't be a Christian esspecially the New Testament. If Christ didn't fullfil the Old Testament prophesy that was written over 700 years before His birth then it's all a lie because the Word itself says so. Jesus said in the beginning He was there. It doesn't make sense but until I see untruths I find it must be true. I am the Way, the Life and the Truth no one comes to the Father except through the Son. Is this true or false. Jesus said you know the truth because it was revealed to you through the Holy Spirit. If Jesus didn't rise from the dead, then He is just another dead man professing something he wasn't. If He did there is a good chance He didn't lie about anything, why would He have to? So He indeed is the Son of God which came to be atonement for all.

Well written and so true. I'm a Christian in the sense that I've chosen Yahweh as my higher power, but I believe that stories such as the Garden of Eden and Noah's Ark are allegorical. For some personal reason, I believe all the miracles of Christ, but I can't accept some of the old testament stories because of their scientific impossibility. I can't accept that the earth is less than 12,000 years old either. I also think it's the superstitious aspect of organized religion that has caused so many atrocities to be committed in the Name of God.