I believe in God and have grown spiritually within the last couple of months. The only problem I have is that some of the people at the church my family goes to think that they know everything, their way is always the right, and judge others. Church is supposed to be a supportive community helping others of all walks of life, and letting people know about God. It's supposed to be founded on love. But, I guess I'll just have to find another church to go to once I have to the freedom to.
rumblingheart rumblingheart
18-21, F
7 Responses Aug 17, 2014

Just hold on to your faith ...church is supposed to build fellowship /support/love try to open up with them not all church people are right but inspite of this continue to live by faith

I'm honestly pretty sure god didn't write the bible lol only you can know how god wants you to be. Ask him

Rumblingheart, that is interesting. We have to be careful not to judge especially when our perception is that someone is being judgmental toward us. I am curious why you feel that they know everything, etc.

I agree with you. I should be careful not to judge.

A lot of the people at my church have a fixed perception of how and what a Christian should be based on their standards, and they don't want to look outside the box, and think their perceptions are correct, without acceptions. If I suggest something different, I am disregarded and hushed.

From your point of view, what fixed perception do they have and on what do they base their standards on? How do you think they would benefit by looking outside the box? What suggestions have you proposed?

They think that Christians should be dressed formally and girls should wear a skirts when going to church on Sundays. They look down upon people who come to church casually, or people with multiple piercings, tattoos, dreadlocks, fake hair, makeup, and jewelry. They see these almost as sins, and see that they aren't Christian enough, if you fit into these categories. And they believe that singing is super important towards being a Christian. I dont think these things are necessary.

Wow, those things must be tough for a person your age to tolerate. So what suggestions have you proposed?

I dont think it has to do with my age. I just feel like they make their ideals of a Christian seem like they are facts. I have proposed that the church should be open to all types of people, like Jesus was, and that being a little different isn't bad. And that I dont think god won't let people in his kingdom just because they wear makeup, or have multiple piercings.

I've also said that singing isn't as important as they make it seem as.

Dear rumblingheart, I sympathize with your situation. I would like to comment on a few points of your last post. I believe that anyone claiming to be christian should base their beliefs and actions on the bible. It is the only reliable guide for true christian living. A) The bible is open to all types of people (who do His will), B) Being a little different isn't bad (from a scriptural viewpoint), C) There are women approved by God who wore makeup and jewelry. Multiple piercings are based on personal taste (especially if done with dignity and modesty). Tattoos are condemned in the bible. Take a look at this article. Let me know what you think. jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/bible-say-about-tattoos/

I personally am not a big fan of tattoos, but I still dont understand what's the big difference between a tattoo and a piercing, that makes one acceptable and the other unacceptable, other than the fact that tattoos are permanent?

I know that in the Old Testament God advised the people of Israel not to, because the people used their tattoos as a form of worship to their own gods.

Rumblingheart, have you considered asking those taking the lead in that church to show you from the bible where is says Christians should do what they do. If they can show you clear evidence then would you reconsider your point of view? Here are some bible scriptures that may comfort you.... A) Acts 5: 34, 35 says “For a certainty I perceive that God is not partial, but in every nation the man that fears him and works righteousness is acceptable to him.

Reconsider what view?

B) When Jesus was on earth, he prayed this for his disciples: "...They are no part of the world, just as I am no part of the world." ... Therefore, being no part of the world requires that Christians be separate or distinct from others in their way of living, dress and grooming, speech, etc.

I agree with that, but I feel that internal righteous characteristics are more important than external characteristics. I feel that these external characteristics are focused too much upon, and that God cares about more what's in the heart, than our outwardly appearances.

C) First Samuel 16:7 says, But Jehovah said to Samuel, "Do not pay attention to his appearance .... for the way man sees is not the way God sees, because mere man sees what appears to the eyes, but Jehovah sees into the heart." Also, 1 Pet. 3:3, 4: “Do not let your adornment be that of the external braiding of the hair and of the putting on of gold ornaments or the wearing of outer garments, but let it be the secret person of the heart in the incorruptible apparel of the quiet and mild spirit, which is of great value in the eyes of God.” (Does this mean that women should wear no ornaments? Certainly not; just as it obviously does not mean that they should not wear outer garments. But they are here encouraged to be balanced in their attitude regarding grooming and dress, putting the primary emphasis on spiritual adornment.)

Exactly, which is why I dont agree with several of the people at my church because they judge and focus upon external appearances, and feel that their ideals correct.

And of course there needs to be a balance.

Abraham's daughter-in-law Rebekah wore the common jewelry of ancient women. Read (Ge 24:22, 30, 47), Also, If wearing jewelry is a sin, why does the bible relate what is in Isaiah 3:16, 19?

Finally, as for tattoos, the bible says in Leviticus 19:28: “You must not .... put tattoo marking upon yourselves. I am Jehovah.” This is one way, as you put it, Christians are "a little different" by obeying God.

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bothers me a lot too, Jesus hungout with prostitutes and lepers, rather than gossiping and comparing himself to them. all I can say is be the example, I really respect your point of view :)

amen

You will often run into some of those types at most churches you will visit.

the Church should be like a hospital ,,a place for broken people to find help and strength to recover,,a safe harbor in times of the storms of life ,,trouble is the religious don't want broken people in their church or they might mess it up ,,that is why they accused Christ of being a glutton and a wine drinker ,,,He didn't hang out at the church ,,,He went to where the broken were and left the religion to those who said they knew God ,,,but when He came in the flesh they tried to kill Him ,,,only trouble for them was He wouldn't stay dead ,,and He healed those the priests said weren't worthy ,,,and raised those they buried in the garbage dump ,,,not allowing them to be put to rest in what they called holy ground ,,,it is a shame a lot of the church still follow their way ,,,but God is not about religion ,,,He is about His ,,,and you don't need a building to fellowship with God ,,,but don't tell them that ,,they might try to find and kill Him again ,,,they may think He is broken too ,,he may not look like the kind they want in their church ,,,he may drag some of those drunks and gluttons in with Him and that would never do lol