Thank God!

What comment was that ???

Psh, guy deleted his comment. Couldn’t take the heat, I guess.



And the fact that the word m a s t u r b a t i o n was censored just proves my point. Is this site forced to censor or what? Seems antithetical to sharing experiences. Oh no, can’t let our kids know about m a s t u r b a t i o n! That would be the downfall of society indeed.

Absolutely, Sally! I really wish that more women could be like you and recognize that women can go out there and take control of their own sexuality too, even in non-traditional ways. The traditions are based on evolutionary instincts and cultural histories that don't have rational application to any modern girl's individual life anymore. As long as you are careful, then there is nothing disrespectful about sex with someone you choose!! And I don't know why anyone else would care anyway!



The roots of this issue go way back. I mean, like, hundreds of millions of years back. I am informally researching, possibly for a book, natural history and its influence on morals, and how those moral standards can be questioned today in a new context. My personal conclusion is that sex is one thing and love is another, and they can get in the way of each other as well as enhance each other. I enjoy each for its own sake. And so should you! :)

And another thing, it's easy to say "just **********". But people's negative attitude towards sex in general, and female sexuality in particular, is a big reason why girls are often too ashamed or misinformed to do it. ************ is something that comes more naturally to guys, not to mention something that people are more open about, because guys are expected to be sexual. I'm sure there are also many girls who started ************ at a young age too, but there are also many like me who had no clue about it until later in life. I actually had to teach myself how to do it. It wasn't until a few years of being openly sexual that I stopped being embarrassed about it and actually went and bought myself a vibrator. No offense, but I think this is something that, being a guy, you probably can't relate to. All I can say is that being more open about sex and having the experiences that I have has helped me a lot, and I truly believe it will help me to have better relationships in the future.

"But when women start to have sex or engage in sexual activity as if it is some form or recreational activity rather than a pleasurable special moment, it sickens me. It just proves to me that the girl has no self respect or will to hold on to her sexual needs."



See, it's ideas like these that I think people often just repeat because that's what they've been taught, without really thinking them through. I've never understood exactly what choosing to have sex has to do with "self respect". Unless you think that everyone naturally views sex the same way you do, so when someone has casual sex, they must be compromising their values to experience pleasure. My personal view is that there is nothing wrong with any kind of consensual sex that doesn't involve cheating, and that my worth as a person isn't determined by how many sexual partners I've had, or the circumstances of the sex. If YOU wouldn't have casual sex, that's fine, that's your choice, but don't take it for granted that everyone else shares your morals. When I have sex, whether it's in a committed relationship or with someone I just met, I fully "respect" myself as an individual capable of making my own decisions.

I totally agree with you Sally, more power to you!

No, the problem is people assuming that everyone else shares their personal values. I don’t believe that sex is sacred, or that my “worth” is based on how many people I’ve slept with. And I think you’re going a little overboard with the car analogy. Women are not objects to be owned. All I meant was that if you have sex for the first time on your wedding night, you’re risking finding out that you’re incompatible after it’s too late, which is not something I care to do.



And by the way, I’ve never actually spent “just a night” with someone (not that I think there’s anything wrong with that). There’s always been some connection, even if it’s not necessarily “true love”.

PART OF THE PROBLEM IN SOCIETY TODAY IS THAT SEX IS NOT SACRET AND WE AS WOMEN DO NOT KNOW OUR WORTH AND HALF OF THE TIME WE DON;T RESPECT OURSELVES,ITS NOT SO GOOD TO ALLOW GUYS TO TAKE TAKE TEST DRIVES ON YOUR ACCOUNT ,SIMPLE FACT IS -BY THE TIME YOU FIND AN OWNER-YOUR BODY WILL BE ALL WORN OUT,WITH MANY MILES ON IT ,BASICALLY YOUR SOMETHING LIKE AN PRE-OWNED VEHICLE.WHY NOT WAIT UNTIL MARRIAGE,WHERE IT IS WITH THAT PERSON THAT YOU LOVE AND THAT PERSON THAT YOUR GOING TO SPEND THE REST OF YOUR LIFE WITH NOT JUST AN NIGHT....