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what a misogynist... why are you even posting in this forum, seriously? blaming victims for their own abuse.. you are one sick individual.

Blow me. You obviously didn't READ what I wrote, can't blame THAT on the fact you're a woman, perhaps just stupid then,eh?

Wow I think some of your points are correct and others aren't. First of all some women who are abused don't really want it to happen. I know there are women who are weak minded. However, it's just wrong for the the man to abuse the woman. PERIOD. (as it would be for a woman to abuse a man) It is her choice to leave the relationship. But, is not necessarily easy for her to. (I know some women who were in this situation and it is such a confusing topic.)
Some relationships are so controlling that it becomes overpowering and confusing for anyone to comprehend.

However, I do think that men shouldn't be the "Demond" in this topic. There are really good men and there are really good women. There are some **** women as well.
But, I think that your comment is polar opposite to this topic. There needs to be some common ground.
Not sure if he is looking to get laid on a "website".

Michelle -
I did not get that he was referring to PHYSICAL abuse, which is intolerable in ANY instance - what I did pick up on, I clearly addressed. The PROBLEM often overlooked is that men and women's 'roles' (or the reverse -'expectations') are ill defined by society in this day and age. Women who hysterically finger point and blame men for all their woes are much too common anymore and dishonor the strides made by women in the sixties who FOUGHT for the right to work - to control their own bodies - to define their own destinies - those were incredible times, and the women I knew then were simply incredible as well. They NEVER demanded 'respect' but instead took it upon themselves to EARN it. Nowadays too many women ride coattails of the women's movement and blindly label as misogynist any man who refuses to validate their man hate.

It truly makes me SAD to see the comments made by this young man who bemoans the 'woe of women' while his actions clearly paint the picture that he IS interested in pandering to the women He finds desirable. Obviously, there is a HUGE and untapped market out there that Parker has TOTALLY ignored - those women who are NOT abused or fanatic man haters.
His lament is totally pretentious.
Michelle, do YOU know the feel of the Sahara desert beneath your feet? Do you KNOW the taste of fresh snowfall on the Continental divide?

I DO. You see, these are things I CAN know through experience,but not through some vicarious desire to HAVE the experience or 'relate' to those who do.. The things that this author mentions are things he CANNOT KNOW... so his lament is (inspired) but false and therefore I must look to his motives.

I guess I'd say once more - LOOK at the last two paragraphs of my original statement. I am not unclear.
The FACT is that I do not like to see women mistreated, but I also hate to see ANYONE mistreated. I also abhor ignorance, stupidity, and those who refuse to think for themselves, regardless of how well worded their laments.
Moreover I find deplorable those who accuse me- without basis -of' blaming victims' as that was never the case. I'll add something here - of all the Daughters I've RAISED.. none of them has experienced the sort of troubles that Parker describes... So no, I cannot blame men- or society-but blame instead women and femi'men' who perpetuate the 'poor me' excuses of those who choose not to be responsible for their own impact upon society.

I was thinking that he was referring to physical abuse as he did say the word "toy". Which I could take as sexual abuse. So thus physical..
I am glad that you are for women and know that from your stories and know that you have children who are girls.
So maybe I looked at your comment wrongly.
I do see that men are used as the villain a lot in this day and age and a lot of people misunderstand what feminism is about. Which is really EQUALITY. But, thats another story. lol
This is such a touchy subject. But, I think I do agree with you NOW. Since this boy doesn't know about physical abuse relationships. Unless he has had a girlfriend, a mother or sisters involved. I am not sure. True.. no one can fully understand until they LIVE it. So I am unaware of his motives and what his past is. But, it is strange that he hasn't written about his past instances with women involved in similar problems. hmm Good point. :)

Thanks michelle for commenting and allowing me to clear that up. I really don't mind that anyone disagrees with me, but it's the failed attacks that I find bothersome. I DO appreciate that you considered an opposing point, even if you disagree, it's nice to hear a rational and considered voice. thank you.

You're an ***. I have two sons. I hope they grow into sensitive men that care about the needs of women as this young man seems to. That would make me one proud momma.

And you're aBi tch. So what? You,like the naive imbecile who wrote that drivel completely miss the point. There's a saying shared by men in Texas, I can explain it to you, I just can't understand it for you. Think before you open your trap, or you'll catch flies.

how is a guy "feminized" if he is against over half the worlds population being disrespected, who just so happen to be female? the idea of putting down & shunning anything feminine (including women) in order to be a "man", just proves how unmanly you are - you obviously struggle with your own masculinity.

i can guarantee you it WILL get him laid - every woman out there with half a brain would choose a guy who respects them over one who doesn't (not in the case where the one who doesn't is just not unattractive - which is where the whole idea that girls don't like "nice guys" comes from).

i have dated a **** load of jerks in my time, but only because i thought i had no other option - pretty much all men were ********, while the good ones were hard to come by (either unattractive or taken). i just accepted it. the fact that i was young (younger than i am now, at least) & "teenagery" didn't help it - thank god now i've found an amazing guy. i'm starting to reconsider the whole "all men are jerks" thing...but by that token, i still know the good ones are rare, so i intend to do my best by this one while i've got him!

Perhaps Shakespeare said it best, "Methinks the woman doth protest too much." Why you would feel in any way threatened by my comments is beyond me. My MAIN POINT is that the femiman who posted this drivel was talking out of his ***. He made NO complaint that anyone he knew had been abused, etc., only he mouthed the words he had heard from ACTUAL women's laments. I strongly recommend that you re-read the original post and the replies I made to AngelHeartAblaze (and her well considered replies) About him getting laid, ask him. I'd bet my house this post hasn't done it for him, and even less has his pretentious sniveling. Your post only serves to clarify MY POINT, that no, it isn't right or good to abuse anyone, that not all men (or women) are jerks, but instead of blaming HALF the population for the others woes, EACH should accept their responsibility for the part they play in the ongoing drama. I'm glad you've outgrown your teenage years, and have formed a more responsible opinion of yourself while learning to look past the stereotypes that the writer here promotes. If you hadn't done so, you'd be on the couch eating bon-bons and whimpering about how the world (half of it) is to blame. Instead, you've taken a chance on a man who proves his respect, not with senseless words or pandering, but by treating you with the respect due any responsible person. You are correct, the 'good ones' are rare, and they don't run around crying about how pretentious wussies have 'ruined' things for them. I dare to make one more prediction. The guy you are with, isn't anything at all like the femiman Parker.

True dat.

Someone feeling threatened?

because a guy that is against men disrespecting women must have an ulterior motive, right?