# Careful Rightards, Don't Look At The Melting Glaciers, You Might Have To Admit The Truth!

You might be forced to admit that human caused global warming is real!!!

330 feet of ice missing off Sagharmata. In just 50 years.

330 feet. At 29000 feet. How much 'city only' warming would THAT take?

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/18/opinion/18kristof.html?_r=1&hp
bitlord
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37 Responses Jul 20, 2010

Hey barry, if I'm an idiot, as evidenced by posting FACTS backed by CITATIONS, what does that make you?<br />
A parasite, a leech, a suckerfish, a drone, living your life off the sweat and WORK of real people, that's what.

bitlord you are an idiot.

Orbital velocity is from NASA btw.

Check your math danielm, you are missing a zero.

were do you get the 8760 hours in one year at 67,000 miles per hour,is 587 million miles ,it is very simple,8,760 times 67,000 miles per hour,would only be 58 million 692 thousand miles.

Wow, dogbert and ratbert are out in force.<br />
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My bad, http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/glossary/au.html or 93 million miles for an idealized circular orbit with a period equal to earth.<br />
Reality (http://helios.gsfc.nasa.gov/qa_earth.html#orbit) is 1 AU * .983 out to 1Au * 1.067. Both foci are within the sun.<br />
Orbital speed = http://astrobiology.nasa.gov/ask-an-astrobiologist/question/?id=107 29.79 km/sec, or 5753 mi/hr.<br />
Do the math.<br />
And what does this have to do with the fact that the sun is COOLER this year than in any previous 11 year solar cycle, yet so far 2010 has had the HOTTEST June on record.<br />
Nope, no explanation but Human Caused Global Warming.

Where is the 4 coming from?<br />
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Assuming earth's orbit is circular, a bad assumption because we know it is elliptical, the reason for your 91 and 94 distances, but for ease of caculation then the circumfrence would be two times pie times the radius or <br />
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2 times 3.14 times your 94 million miles or 590 million miles roughly and<br />
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8,760 hours times 67,000 miles per hour is 587 million miles roughly<br />
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pretty close for google actually 590 versus 587, I think they got it right.

and as for being stupid,so you think the sun to its centre is is 98 million miles,hahaha, very silly.

in reply to outercalm on how i am calculating ,the earth is going round the sun, at 372 million miles is this,we are from 91 to 94 million miles,the distance can change as we go round the sun,so do this , at 91 million miles from the sun so add 4 times 91 million miles to get 360 deg this gives us 364 million miles, at 94 million miles,4 times this for 360 deg gives us 376 million miles,so due to the relation of the earth round the sun,you take an average,to give you 372 million miles.

Worse?<br />
What is 1 AU?<br />
The distance from the earth to the sun (center - center)<br />
Which is 98 Million miles (coincidence at work).<br />
So Dimwit is already off by 5% before he even starts. That's what happens when stupid is allowed to flourish.

"google says the earth goes round the sun,at 67,000 miles per hour ,and it takes one year to do so,well think of this,we are from 91 to 94 million miles from the sun,so 360 deg round the sun ,is 372 million miles,there is 8,760 hours in one year,so 8,760 times 67,000 miles per hour is only 55 million 560 though-sand miles ,so goggle has got it wrong."<br />
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danielm, you need to check your math, you are way off on these calculations. How are you calculating to get 372 million miles?

IS that what you have been trained to do?<br />
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Bring up Al Gore and how wrong he is every chance you get?<br />
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You need some fresh material or did your conspiracy theory website run out?<br />
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You are a puppet.

Stupid people post rants about Al Gore,instead of looking at the missing glaciers, gone, not in millenia as happens in nature, but in decades, as happens due to men.<br />
Stupid people prefer to let CAPITALISTS tell you that you MUST burn more coal, more oil, and murder to keep the price down.<br />
Stupid people post under the "God" banner.

mr Al Gore ask's if you would like to pay,3 million dollars,as he is selling carbon credits ,at 50% off,bring an empty, bag and he will put the credit's in to it,how many stupid people,will pay.

I see, undertone, you prefer that your grandchildren live under the tyranny of corporate ***---les who own ALL THE RESOURCES THAT remain after you and your fatuous tyrants prevent the WILL OF THE PEOPLE from being exercised thanks to your propaganda.<br />
F-U! Dim!!!

What no one can grant however, is the idiotic idea that CF bulbs will emit more mercury than the extra coal burned to heat the Incandescent the CF replaces...by 3 orders of magnitude no less!!<br />
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Likewise, no one but a fool would claim that CF's do not use as much power as an incandescent, again by at least one order!!!<br />
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So, deal with it dullard, human Caused Global Warming is real, well documented, and the disappearing glaciers are a warning, maybe the very last we will get before drought destroys much of the world's food growing regions.

Energy Star is a joke! I know this as well. When A company that makes the products do their own energy star evaluations and can make up whatever numbers they desire to get the energy star rating it defeats the purpose.<br />
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Someone faked an evaluation and got an energy star rating for a gasoline powered alarm clock.<br />
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Energy Star is an enabler of big business to continue with bad practices.

I know what Mercury is. There are certain steps you take when cleaning up after one if it breaks. Not that that makes it any better.<br />
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Using one of these bulbs is equivalent to taking 11 cars off of the road. Cars DO cause pollution.<br />
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The fact that these bulbs can lead to dangerous toxins in the home is only one of the reasons we need new clean technologies developed.<br />
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Why not clean our act up? Why not stop polluting the air we breath and the water we drink? What's so wrong with being green?<br />
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The only reason I can find for not doing things in a more environmentally conscious way is the agenda of the wealthy elite. Do you know who they are?<br />
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I do.. The Oil Companies run the show and it's their propaganda you spout.<br />
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Illuminating facts about fluorescent bulbs<br />
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We really can Change the World by changing just one light bulb. If each household changed one standard bulb for one compact fluorescent bulb, California could:<br />
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* Reduce energy use by up to 616 million kilowatt hours of electricity in one year. That's enough energy to light all the households in Sacramento for 690 days - or almost two years!<br />
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* Save \$74.7 million a year on household electricity bills.<br />
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* Reduce garbage by keeping up to a billion (yes, a billion) bulbs out of the trash. Each fluorescent bulb can last up to 10 times longer than an ordinary bulb, so think of all those bulbs that won't be thrown away.<br />
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* Keep 974 million pounds of carbon dioxide or CO2 out of the environment. CO2 is the most common gas that contributes to global warming. That's 450 pounds of CO2 saved from the atmosphere with each fluorescent bulb. Greenhouse gases, including carbon dioxide, are produced by the power plants that light your home.<br />
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* If every household changed just one bulb, it would be about the same as:<br />
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o Removing 85,000 cars from California's roads for one year.<br />
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o Filling 32.5 billion basketballs with CO2. Placed side by side, the basketballs would stretch for 4.6 million miles.<br />
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Other bright ideas<br />
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* Change the bulbs in lights that you use the most, such as the kitchen ceiling lights, living room lamps, bathroom vanity, or porch light.<br />
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* Keep your home cooler in the summer by using fluorescent lighting. A fluorescent bulb generates 70 percent less heat than a regular bulb.<br />
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* Save \$30 or more in energy costs over the life of each compact fluorescent bulb. What could your family buy with the extra cash?<br />
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* Learn about other choices in energy-saving lighting for your home, such as cool halogen or LED bulbs and fixtures or ENERGY STAR lighting. For more information, visit:<br />
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o www.energystar.gov<br />
o www.fypower.com<br />
o http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/products/ffclight.htm

google says the earth goes round the sun,at 67,000 miles per hour ,and it takes one year to do so,well think of this,we are from 91 to 94 million miles from the sun,so 360 deg round the sun ,is 372 million miles,there is 8,760 hours in one year,so 8,760 times 67,000 miles per hour is only 55 million 560 though-sand miles ,so goggle has got it wrong.

First: There weren't 30,000 committee members on the IPCC.<br />
Second: There are no deniers who are published Climatologists in Peer REviewed Journals of Climatology.<br />
No outercalm, that kind of cr@p is what religionists push every day.<br />
And finally, Climatologists are skeptics. That's what they do for a living, which is why it has taken so many years for them to finally settle on the now obvious truth. The world is warming due to human action.

"There are over 30, 000 CLIMATEOLOGISTS who disagree." Propoganda, I doubt there are even 30,000 climatologists total.<br />
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the earth goes round the sun in 39 years. The earth orbits the sun once a year. This was a typo wasn't it?<br />
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I'm a bit of a skeptic myself in that I am not a 100% believer but indications are we are losing ice mass and losing it at a much, much faster rate than any natural cycle observed in the geological record.

Undertone, yes, the natural climate has and will fluctuate tremendously through the milleneia. But this is OUR millenia, the time of man. We have some impact on our enviroment, don't you think? Why not adjust our behavior so old mother earth will remain habitable for many generations of human animals to come? Why not? Earth couldn't care less if we adjust or not, but my Grandchildren will care very much.

You are wrong and one day you will know you are wrong. Like I said it's too late now anyway. Do whatever you like. That's what you really want isn't it? To be free from responsibility? Just like the past generations that led us here? Well, it's too late so you won't have to give up your big truck and your jet ski for Africa, Iceland or wherever. You can continue to be a zombie consumer and waste, waste, waste. Really it's OK.

Sure, whatever you say.

i work as a coach driver,and nothing to do with an oil company.but i do geology,as a hobby ,and other subjects.

I didn't see a denial there. <br />
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Don't listen to these oil company stooges, bitlord. <br />
At least some of us know better. It's already too late anyway. Nothing we can do. <br />
Let them at it. <br />
Maybe when their Grandchildren or Great Grandchildren can't go outside anymore they will finally get the picture. Maybe when the human race has to live in a series of polluted domes they will understand.

the earth goes round the sun in 39 years,at a speed of 1,110 miles per hour,the sun is pushing the earth ,round the sun, and taking 341,640 hours at 1,110 miles per hour and doing a journey of 372 million miles,not one thousand years.

There is a difference in the natural processes of the planet and what is happening now. Only man can cause that. Man DOES have an impact on his environment! Even a damn dog knows better than to lie in it's own filth. Put a bunch of fish in a bowl and see what happens.<br />
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Do you guys think that the human race can grow and grow and grow. Each one of these members of the human race throws away trash and uses natural resources. )That WILL be depleted at some point.) <br />
Do you really think the human race can keep that up forever and not have an impact?<br />
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That's insanity! It's obvious and right in front of your face! <br />
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I was told once, back when I was an Atheist, that I should believe in God just in case it was all true. Well what if you guys are wrong. Do you seriously want to risk it and risk it for what, oil?<br />
Something that people have been suffering over for years!<br />
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If we don't cut down on our oil consumption it will cause more problems than just environmental, it will cause social problems and wars.<br />
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The oil companies are our governments now which makes you guys government stooges for pushing their agenda..<br />
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I wouldn't be surprised if you worked for an oil company.

The planet cycles IN THOUSAND YEAR INCREMENTS, not in decades.<br />
The sun is not changing, CO2 now higher than anytime in 850,000 years, and just as physics predicts, the planet is heating due to geenhouse effect.<br />
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Get over yourselves, the science is sound HUMAN CAUSED GLBOAL WARMING IS A FACT says the 1200 member IPCC of CLIMATOLOGISTS.<br />
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the planet goes from warm to cold this is a normal thing to happen,look to geolgy to see the evidence,it is all'so due to what the sun does,the solar winds ,as the earth goes round the sun,at the end of the last ice age,the glaciers melted ,man had nothing to do with that did they,the earth warmed up on its own,man had nothing to do with it,and it has done this 22 times,so yes we will go back ,to an other ice age,it is not if but when,and as for cutting down the carbon dioxide,the trees feed on this,and give off oxygen,which we feed on,so the one thing that man is doing is cutting down the trees,so we need to know the number of trees we need,you will notice that ,if you go walk in the woods,you will have high levels of oxygen there,so you feel better,so if man were to do something then it must be plant some trees when they cut them down.

Glaciers do not vanish in 100 years.<br />
EVER.<br />
man did that.

our last ice age ended 8,000 years ago ,the evidence is found in geology,man did not do that did they.

To quote from the 2009 IPCC report:<br />
"no significant doubt remains that human activity has created the current warming".<br />
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Say the CLIMATOLOGISTS who actually study the issue.<br />
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NO SIGNIFICANT DOUBT!!!

What there is no such thing as is glaciers in any previous interglacial melting in less than 100 years!!<br />
MAN did this, and MAN is going to suffer for it.<br />
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www.realclimate.org Educate yourself!

there is no such thing as man made global warming,we have had 22 ice ages in 3 billion years,we are going round the sun,as we do so we will have many weather changes by doing so.