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Tomatos and Cheap Labor

Just something I got in my email, thought it might interest those who disagree with illegal immigrants being treated unfairly...

THIS HAS GOT TO BE PASSED ALONG TO AS MANY AS POSSIBLE OR WE WILL ALL GO DOWN THE DRAIN BECAUSE A FEW DON'T CARE.  This English teacher has phrased it the best I've seen yet. Tomatoes and Cheap Labor CHEAP TOMATOES? This should make everyone think, be you Democrat, Republican or Independent >

From a California school teacher - - - "As you listen to the news about the student protests over illegal immigration, there are some things that you should be aware of: I am in charge of the English-as-a-second-language department at a large southern California high school which is designated a Title 1 school, meaning that its students average lower socioeconomic and income levels. Most of the schools you are hearing about, South Gate High, Bell Gardens , Huntington Park , etc., where these students are protesting, are also Title 1 schools. Title 1 schools are on the free breakfast and free lunch program. When I say free breakfast, I'm not talking a glass of milk and roll -- but a full breakfast and cereal bar with fruits and juices that would make a Marriott proud. The waste of this food ismonumental, with trays and trays of it being dumped in the trash uneaten. ( OUR TAX DOLLARS ATWORK ) I estimate that well over 50% of these students are obese or at least moderately overweight.About 75% or more DO have cell phones.The school also provides day care centers for the unwed teenage pregnant girls (some as young as 13) so they can attend class without the inconvenience of having to arrange for baby-sitters or having family watch their kids. ( OUR TAX DOLLARS ATWORK) I was ordered to spend $700,000 on my department or risk losing funding for the upcoming year even though there was little need for anything; my budget was already substantial. I ended up buying new computers for the computer learning center, half of which, one month later, have beencarved with graffiti by the appreciative students who obviously feel humbled and grateful to have a free education in America . (OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK) I have had to intervene several times for young and substitute teachers whose classes consist ofmany illegal immigrant students here in the country less then 3 months who raised so much h--- with the female teachers, calling them "Putas" w*ores and throwing things; that the teachers were in tears. Free medical, free education, free food, day care, etc., etc., etc. Is it any wonder they feel entitled to not only be in this country but to demand rights, privileges and entitlements?

To those who want to point out how much these illegal immigrants contribute to our society because they LIKE their gardener and housekeeper and they like to pay less for tomatoes: spend some time in the real world of illegal immigration and see the TRUE costs. Higher insurance, medical facilities closing, higher medical costs, more crime, lower standards of education in our schools, overcrowding, new diseases etc., etc., etc. For me, I'll pay more for tomatoes. We need to wake up. The guest worker program will be a disaster because we won't have the guts to enforce it. Does anyone in their right mind really think they will voluntarily leave and return? It does, however, have everything to do with culture: A third-world culture that does not value education, that accepts children getting pregnant and dropping out of school by 15 and that refuses to assimilate, and an American culture that has becomeso weakandworried about "political correctness"that we don't have the will to doanything about it. If this makes your blood boil,as it did mine, forward this to everyone you know.

CHEAP LABOR? Isn't that what the whole immigration issue is about? Business doesn't want to pay a decent wage. Consumers don't want expensive produce. Government will tell you Americans don't want the jobs. But the bottom line is cheap labor. The phrase "cheap labor" is a myth, a farce, and a lie. There is no such thing as "cheaplabor." Take, for example, an illegal alien with a wife and five children. He takes a job for $5.00 or 6.00/hour. At that wage, with six dependents, he pays no income tax, yet at the end of the year, if he files an Income Tax Return, he gets an "earned income credit" of up to $3,200 free. He qualifies forSection 8 housing andsubsidized rent. He qualifies for food stamps. He qualifies forfree (no deductible, no CO-pay) health care. His children get free breakfasts andlunches at school. He requires bilingual teachers and books. He qualifies for relief from high energy bills. If they are or become, aged, blind ordisabled, they qualify for SSI.Once qualified for SSI they can qualify for Medicare. All of this is at (our) taxpayer's expense. He doesn't worry about car insurance, life insurance, or homeowners insurance. Taxpayers provide Spanish language signs, bulletins and printed material. He and his family receive the equivalent of $20.00 to $30.00/hour in benefits. Working Americans are lucky to have $5.00 or $6.00/hour left after paying their bills and his. The American taxpayers also pay for increased crime, graffiti and trash cleanup.

Cheap labor? YEAH RIGHT! Wake uppeople! THESE ARE THE QUESTIONS WE SHOULD BE ADDRESSING TO THE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATESFOR EITHER PARTY. 'AND WHEN THEY LIE TO US AND DON'T DO AS THEY SAY, WE SHOULDREPLACE THEM AT ONCE!'

KinkyFlower KinkyFlower 31-35, F 10 Responses Nov 30, 2007

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Easy! You Both are Illiterate!!! You are the major cause of the "Dumbing Down of America" !!!

It describes "Illigal Immigrants" being uneducated, criminals, dirty, dropping out,getting pregnant. Uses the word "Putas"(******)Disciminating the hispanic community as well as other Illigal Immigrants. I really dont get this teachers point.Is clear she is mad. <br />
This person is clearly not educated, even if she says she is a teacher.I'm not a teacher and she doesn't make sense.She says all negative things about illigal immigrants thats that mean that the other immigrats are different even if sharing the same culture. I makes me pissed that a person like this can post something like this.

Take a look at Alipac, just google it and then make an informed decision.<br />
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Unfortunately, people do own land and properties. I could never afford to myself. And if we are going to go back to the days of the indian, I do have some indian ancestory, America didn't have the population it does now. Hospitals have been forced to close because of illegals, there are people who have been waiting for years for subsidized housing because there are so many illegals. The American citizens have never been given all the breaks the illegals are getting. No one that I know has ever gotten that kind of help in their entire lives and they worked their fingers to the bones their whole lives.

Multi culteral is wonderful. Breaking the law is not. No citizen is given the breaks that illegals are given. They are not just doing the jobs that American's don't want. I had a great job and most of the employees there were illegals. American citizens need to eat and pay bills and have families too. But I guess they don't matter to some of you. It has nothing to do with race. Do you think illegals are worrying about us struggling? No, it's ok for them take jobs while thousands of citizens are without jobs. It's ok for illegals to get freebies at every turn when citizens have to use retirement funds before they can get any help whatsoever? So like, what do they do when it's time to retire? They won't be able to! Is it right to keep taking and taking away from others? <br />
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I have friends of all races so you can't play the racist card with me. The reason American citizens are so angry is because illegals are taking its toll on us in so many ways and we are left b the wayside. Not only are they are ungrateful, they ust want more and more and more. They are never satisfied! <br />
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They cry poverty but the illegals that I know drive gas guzzling mini vans, own their own homes or have subsidized housing, go to college, have medical etc. I'm sorry but if they have to step all over the American people to get these things, is it right? Is it fair? NO!

As for feeling like the minority in one's own country, one should see that as a blessing. I take pride in knowing that the US is the most multi-culturally diversed nation in the entire world. Time and change are inevitable. Our country is evolving for the better. None of us own this land. We may have leased property but we don't own it. Several hundred years from now, the US will have another predominant face. We should try not to become so fixated on majority/minority.

Sometimes i think our country is too generous. I mean, we give them countless opportunities to succeed and better themselves...and they still throw it back in our face and don't appreciate it. We are definitely becoming the minority...in our own country! i'm not quite sure how i feel about that yet...

That's quite a thought provoking post KP. Thanks for it. We should give our American governmental system a pat on the back. We are treating low-income children humanely by actually feeding them...You know what I think is going on here. I think it's like population control. The census released data stating that latino-descent people will outnumber European-descent people by the year 2015. So, we need to find a 'legal' way to get rid of them latinos even though how our work force will recover from it...we'll concern ourselves with that later. GOD bless our welfare system. The people we help every day just by taking a few dollars out of our checks. We'd want people to do the same for us if we were Title-1 families. Just face it...Illegal immigrants...we need them. They do the jobs that we will not do. We were them in 1607 & 1707. We needed them in 1807, 1907, as well as 2007. We might as well accept it though some of us may not accept them seeking 'asylum' here.

The treatment of the Mexican illegal, is really about numbers.<br />
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If Mexicans continue to come into this country at the rate they are arriving and having babies at an even faster rate, just on the laws of mathematics, Mexican Americans in 20 years will be the real majority, and since they come to this country because they WANT their children educated, these children are going to be doctors, lawyers, judges and POLITICIANS! <br />
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Emails like the one sent above are being sent out as another form of mass politically correct form of discrimination...not against he illegals, but against the children they will be born and eventually become the new leaders of this country.<br />
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It's kind of a timeline turn about. Mexicans will eventually regain what they lost at the battle of the Alamo and all because they procreate more than the white and blacks do. AND, they don't abort their children!<br />
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Ten years ago I worked for a major hospital in Dallas, I qualified women of all ages and races to receive free contraceptives and obgyn services. One day a group of us asked one of the VIPS, why the illegal immigrants get free obgyn services and contraceptives, while the Americans had to qualify on a sliding scale and then pay a small ammount. We were told this....<br />
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The American government is afraid that if they do not control the quantity of babies being born to illegal Mexican women, eventually Mexican Americans will be in the majority of this country, and so giving undocumented Mexican Immigrants free contraceptives is the governments way of controlling this from happening.<br />
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I think she told us this before realizing she was giving out information that wasn't meant for our ears. <br />
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And so, it really is all about numbers. <br />
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To barzi...simple minds find it easier to "blame" someone than solve a problem.

lol, sorry for the long post, that's been building up in me for a while.

Well, that's really what it's all about as barzi put it...<br />
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when Americans' ancestors came here costs went up, responsibilities went up but the founding fathers wanted people to be helped..<br />
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The bottom line is, NO, they are not going away, and rather than rant about it....CURE IT!!!!<br />
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When the European immigrants came to he New World, they brought with them disease, criminals, and ******. Do you think the American Indian appreciated that?!!! But people live and they learn, and over time the good overwhelmed the bad, and laws were put into place to control the criminal element, and to force all parents to immunize their children from disease.<br />
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The US needs to find a cure, not a send back notice. Because they will not send them back, not ever! For every illegal immigrant, and lets get brave! For every undocumented Mexican national couple, they have 5-6 offspring....and these children grow up to be Americans, and for every Mexican American household thousands of dollars are spent each week to maintain these large households. And now we are getting to what it's really about....MONEY MONEY MONEY!!!! Sure, the US spends allot of money on illegal Mexican immigrants, by giving them things that the average born here American has to work paycheck to paycheck for, but the amount of money they spend is nothing compared to the millions of money Mexican Americans spend weekly on their large families. <br />
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If you doubt the impact Mexican Americans have on the American economy, then you need to turn on the TV and see how many all Spanish channels there are! Take a look at the commercials geared towards the Americans. On an average commercial you will see a single man or woman selling a product. On the Spanish channels, it is always a full sized family. The bottom line is, the white or black Americans are no longer having large families, and therefore they purchase allot less.<br />
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Now lets talk about numbers! <br />
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According to statistics I have read that California is 65% Mexican American, now I keep saying Mexican American, but you have to realize that every Mexican American has illegal immigrants for uncles, cousins, aunts and mothers and fathers! There are places here in Dallas where it feels as if you have stepped into Mexico!<br />
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What the US needs to do, is make Mexico take charge of their own country! Because the email made an extremely valid point....in the Mexican culture, Education is simply not that important....Mexican children have to PAY to the to school! Which leaves their country with very illiterate citizens. We always see the US barging into another country, forcing them to "live right" The US needs to force Mexico to do the same, they need to be forced to implement their own medicaid programs and their own food stamp programs, they need to be forced to write their own human rights constitution as the US recently made another country do.<br />
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OR!<br />
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The US needs to make Mexico a Republic of the US, just as Puerto Rico is. <br />
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These immigrants come to the US because they have very large families in Mexico, the men come here with only the shirt on their backs, they will stand in front of stores and ask politely if you have ANY type of work for them to do for any kind of money, because back home they have a wife and children that are starving.<br />
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My father immigrated from a small town in Mexico called San Luis Potosi, it's a village nestled deep in the mountains of Mexico. He swam....yes he was a wetback, and I say that proudly, he swam here and found himself a wife, he had children, I was his last. I was not allowed to speak Spanish as a child, nor were my brothers. Because he hated Mexico! He hated that the Mexican government does not and will not take care of their own people! I had to learn Spanish by self teaching myself when I became an adult. <br />
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If my father had not immigrated illegally to this great country, I would not own a pc. I would most likely live in a house made of mud, and cook for my family on a small comal, on a dirt floor. As many of my aunts still do today. <br />
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I do not agree with anyone immigrating illegally, I'm just saying the US needs to what they have done with other countries and force them to take care of their own.<br />
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Mexico has a bigger problem than not recognizing that everyone is entitled to an education...<br />
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In Mexico, there are two classes, 3 if you count tourists! <br />
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The rich and the poor, and it's been that way for centuries.