(I just wrote this reply to someone who was commenting about feeling better, and what follows is my reply, but because it wasn't particularly appropriate to the thread as a whole I decided to post it here)
That's nice, everyone deserves to be happy. However one must be careful not to expect all depressed people to be able to pull themselves out of it. I am not trying to say there is nothing people can do to help themself, because obviously they can.
But we have to consider why a person is depressed, not everyone is depressed for the same reasons or in the same ways. It could be an existential angst, or spiritual problem not readily understood and complicated by the busy modern age which leaves little room for the contemplative soul, but instead forces them into a competitive environment. One can just be in despair at the "state of the world" whether their own personal life is wonderful or not. Or perhaps a person finds it hard to handle living in an infinite universe that defeats any attempt at comprehension.
i think its counter-productive to believe that everyone can sort themselves out with some positivity. My whole life I have been told to do this or do that to feel better, but the issue is to do with the human condition, and the schism between my inner life and the universe, no amount of exercise, or self-help classes is gonna shift that
dontcareforlabels dontcareforlabels
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3 Responses Aug 28, 2014

THE MIND
• Needs Food It Gets Strong By The Promises Of God
• Needs Hearing Environment Ish 11;12
• Or It Will Chew On The Negative- Invest In The Mind
• Need Pictures Turning Goals Into Picture- Self talk Conversation- God’s World Contains Faith Needs Protect The Mind -Its Fragile -Have trouble With Mind,
• Mind Keeps Track -No Body Sees What You Experience
• Feed On psalms 119, 91 37 Wash The Mind, Absorb We Succeed With The Mind, A Focus An Instruction, Judas And John Has The Same Mentor
• We Can Have A Relationship With God But Not Through The Law.
• Talk Your Way Out, Sow Your Way Out A Walking Ware House Of Seed- by the words bought to us from heaven. Jesus bought it to us. it Leaves The mouth And Goes Into The Future.


He cant hold you, Christ bought you back.

People are very insensitive if you could pull yourself out, cheer up or whatever else you wwould. Many too fast to judge without the slightest understanding.
My version of modern life is we do not rest properly not just sleep but actually rest body and mind. I could be very wrong.

and you may well be right, it's certainly part of the problem, our modern life is very draining on the psyche, so as a result our dreams are draining and/or peculiar, and then maybe when rest does happen the bloomin alarm clock goes off, then we have to drag ourselves in some kind of fragile stupor into the bustle of another daft day

We measure the wrong things as happiness then think if we have them all problems will disappear. We are in the end animals but unlike animals we push ourselves too much.
Please correct me if wrong some depressions are withing the mind or body like hormonal imbalances.

Again you have the situation summed up well

People are insensitive no doubt, for the most part, in cities particularly ones nerves are stretched to the point where it takes all ones energy to just seem ok. Anyone elses problems on top of that are too much to be able to deal with in more than the most cursory fashion.
One has to pay them to be sensitive these days, that can work

I will listen and try to be sensitive but I do not actually have any experience of depression. I do get annoyed by the you look OK so nothing wrong with you, this I do have experience of as my son has Aspergers and anxiety attacks, he will not go out on his own and if somewhere becomes busy he will have a panic attack.

i can imagine it's frustrating to be on the other side of it looking in

What is frustrating is people seem scared seeing a panic attack. He is 18 now but I think he has a very restricted life. We treat people with illnesses or disabilities that can be seen with compassion but the invisible ones most prefer to avoid.
While depression and Aspergers are very different others treat them the same.
Sorry I'm going on too much.

I don't think you are going on too much, perhaps you don't get to talk about these issues enough, so you're sensitive about broaching the topics, or maybe you just don't think I am interested or worth talking to about it in detail.
I am not a great person to talk to about Aspergers I don't know anything much about it, and half the time I call it as Asparagus.
I know you are right, out of sight is out of mind, if people can't see a problem they find it hard to believe in, humans these days are hyper dependant on their eyes to judge the world,
animals don't limit themselves, but we do.
I try and make an effort to not focus for a minute, and let my other senses get a look in, but its becoming more difficult to remember to do that. Our society is obsessed with the visual.
Mental illnesses have always been taboo, the hidden is feared as well as misunderstood. People would rather sweep the whole thing under the carpet, historically, and still people with mental disorders (or suspected of) were locked up in large numbers and either forgotten by the outside "normal" people or virtually so.
Even people caught drunk in public once to often would disappear, and those considered "troublesome" by a neighbour or those that stole a loaf of bread would even end up in the madhouse.
We all have a big hill to climb these days, not only do we have taboos, but also Billion dollar drug company interests to contend with, the welfare of the individual gets lost in the machine.
Now that's going on too much!

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A perspective that most folks generally don't seem to think of or understand, thanks for putting it into words and in such a well written manner. *thumbs up*

Cheers buddy, it's nice to be appreciated, even whilst its filthy to feel vain about it... "We are all vain here" she said to K
Anyway enough about my feelings. It just gets on my nerves, (the positivity police) and I am extremely wary of using the word (I've lived in Germany) but I don't know how to describe it without saying there's a kind of fascism to all this endless instruction of how a person is supposed to live their own friggin life, and it upsets me how its insidiously assumed that if a person is depressed than they are simply weak willed and should just pull up the stiff upper lip (I am British) and get on with bearing the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune "like a man"
How women are supposed to cope I have no idea, but I was always basically told I was simply worthless as a man. So that's what it's about, its a nascent comment really, I have hardly talked to anyone for three years and most of my opinions and comments are covered in cobwebs in the corner.. (crumbs, that's a lot of c's said in sudden succession)

Don't let avoiding vanity get in the way of feeling some pride about your work. You write well amigo, allow yourself the benefit of feeling good about it!
Don't have anything to add there, you're hitting everything right on the head.

i would say the same

thanks bud, how you doin?

so so i'm bored, my mood is between ups and downs

what oscillating like a yo-yo? Or you mean more generally, seen as you are bored I would imagine you are fairly down right now.
I think someone once said "boredom is the natural state". Its learning how to handle it that's tricky

and that what upsets me i must find every time a new thing to do when you are bored

when I am bored?

no i was talking about my self i get bored easily i always must find something new

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