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Some People Dont Understand the Lasting Effect They Have On Humanity

So many stories i could tell of bad parenting leading to obnoxious children.The worst is when the parents or the school insist on giving these children medication because of a lack of discipline or in the case of medication improper diet and exercise/ being a child.

 

Some people you can't help change. To bad there wasn't some serious incentives for people to get liscenses to have children. Its scary and i wonder if its part of some sort of conspiracy to lead us that way  but so far you can't take away someones freedom to have children and as many as they want at that. So the solution would be give child benefits to those who sign up and earn a liscense.

 

 

hawlemnyair hawlemnyair 26-30, M 1 Response Aug 4, 2009

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As futile as this is, and i know it is i have been in metal bands for the last 12 years and know well how angry people generically behave.<br />
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I think the most ironic part of this whole thread is that what is going on is almost a perfect example of what is being discussed.<br />
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People can express themselves just fine with in the boundaries of respect and politeness. There are some cases say when debating merits of christianity between an athiest and a christian extremist that the boundaries need to be re-measured. Its not about fitting a mold so that we all have the same behavior with no voice or no creativity, but keeping a grounding base to work off of social interaction so that each rightly so can go about living their lives without harm.<br />
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In the modern american capitalist society which has infected most of the world the social contract does have a propensity to allow the most vicious predator an advantage by stepping on everyone else to get what they want. It is though almost the antithesis of what civilization is meant to be. Now, i do also understand that children should not be forced to respect adults on the sole basis that they are adults, with in boundaries. Such as but not limited to that they may not have to do everything every adult tells them but they like everyone else do not have the right to cause harm to another. People should have respect for everything until the thing in question deserves to loose that respect. We are assuming in this story the author has done nothing to loose respect and that the children are undisciplined brats. Here are some things to consider, maybe you already have your obviously not stupid.<br />
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1. It is a parents duty to teach the child how to be an adult.Not force them to miss childhood but teach them along the way. This is disciplining a child. If a parent is not willing to do this they ought not to have children. A parent may do so by three ways: punishment, teaching and leading by example. A parent has the duty to do this because ultimately what the parent does will partially/possibly dictate how the child is as an adult. Which is very important to the evolution of society, and i desperately want that to happen, as an angry and creative person im sure you do also as most people would like to see the world evolve to a better place.<br />
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2. As an adult you need to adhere to the social contract. You may choose to not adhere to the social contract but you are waving your right to be a part of society and therefore should leave said society to find one that better suits your wants. You have the right to change the social contract as does everyone by going through the appropriate measures. This is harder and harder to do politically unless your from a family of influence (which happens to mostly be money currently) though many people find creative means and have been successful in so doing. Most parts of the world the social contract is very wide and allows much room with in its boundaries for diversity otherwise we will not evolve very well.<br />
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3.As i said before and i will reiterate. We are coming to the point where we have so many stupid laws that should not be and distract people from learning all of the laws that actually count. Why? because people are for some reason making consequences dictate their actions. Reward and punishment are the lowest forms of education. Parental politics is not ideal political policy but is there in place because people dont care unless it directly effects them with reward or consequences. This is likely because of how their parents raised them. The cycle continues and worsens, it does not get better through the same mechanism that made it go awry in the first place.<br />
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In conclusion we are at a point where parents need to evolve their understanding of parenting and society in turn needs to evolve. Our children only know what they learn from us, they are little mirrors of our societies sickness that is running rampant, largely due in my opinion out of necessity for money and diet. It has been said that civilization is set up to protect the week. I disagree i believe society is set up for us to co-exist and work together, to live, be happy and prosper together. Then the modern predator takes advantage of our boundaries, there is no honor in such actions and these actions are once again a mirror of a sickness in a sick society that is set up to benefit those said predators as it is also or tries to be also set up for the non predatory of us.. It does not mean that it is ok for people to get stepped on and taken advantage of but we will never evolve past that if we teach our children how to do it better.<br />
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I am of course making many generalizations and i apologize to anyone who feels like they should not be placed in some category, it is merely to save space and is not intended to reflect any individuals who i obviously do not know.<br />
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I hope it makes sense it is hours past my bedtime and im sure half of those are run on sentences but im a little cross eyed right now.<br />
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Posted Aug 5th, 2009 at 4:40AM<br />
I should mention that was in reply to tulick somehow that part got edited out.<br />
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I will also mentionj that in the case of children who have gone through trauma i have know many children growing up who went through everything and anything the children growing up now have or could go through. Including rape, witness to murder, insestual molestation and so on and so on. None of those children were the rude kids some serious issues yes, even more so in adult hood if not dealt with. If anyone of the tragedies i would say it was more often the child of alcoholics who were rude bratty kids. Which goes back to what i was saying parents as role models.