Born Again Baa Humbug Brigade!

I married into a group of cross carrying morons who never accepted me as a normal well adjusted human being. I am a nice person, do good to others and it got me diddly squat and all because i refused the need to be dunked and saved!

I am me... sorry if it was never enough but i'd rather be me and genuinly nice than a two faced over bearing hypercrit walking in thier shoes.

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Happymum Happymum
31-35, F
18 Responses Apr 4, 2007

i just hate Christians in general... but the ones i really hate most of all are these born again's they are the most ****** up people in all of Christianity... their way of thinking will only bring chaos to the world their the ones whose going to bring hell on earth...

Most of these christians dont believe that animals have a soul and that may be the reason you have experienced problems with them and animals freespirit44. Besides animals can generally sense that these people are phoney and untrustworthy and that could be another reason.

They feel that everything they do is perfectly fine because they are "forgiven" but if YOU do something wrong then you are sinful etc etc. They claim that gays are an "abomination" yet most of their ministers/priests are pedophiles or cheat on their wives. They dont have conversations with people and you cant speak rationally to them because the only speak in bible verses. Churches are run like businesses and generally have expensive audio/video equipment while some of their members are homeless, they are now targeting vulnerable populations such as the elderly, disabled, emotionally disturbed and addicts/alcoholics for money and membership. They have fostered the hatered of various groups of people, engaged in both wife and child abuse, etc using chosen bible verses as excuse for their behavior and beliefs. In general these people make me sick and the second someone tells me that they are a born again christian I RUN away from them as fast as I can.

Totally with you on this

I am with Happymum on this. <br />
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My say - <br />
Christians are not nice people and I think they are the ones going to hell on the super highway to hell if you get my drift.<br />
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And, who are you to preach to us, you do not know a thing about anyone but you have assumptions and you do not even bother to check your facts.<br />
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I tried to be nice but hey man how can you be nice to people who have decided that you are beneath them and no matter what you do, you are useless to them because you do not share in their idealogy. And, they hate others who are Christians as well but not born again.

what ever... if god is that judgemental like most of his so called follwers i'd sooner go to hell x

all it comes down to in the end is Love God, obey his commandments and statutes living the way he wants you to while there is time now and recieve eternal life when he comes <br />
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Love satan, obey your own law and statues , and live the way you want to live til he comes , then feel the wrath of God. with eternal fire that will devour you till there is nothing left.....<br />
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the choice is yours- free will

Please, god doesn't follow his/her/its own commandants. If you read the entire bible, not cherry-pick, there is more death and destruction ordered by god than any man could dream of.

Stop pushing your religious ideology of hate on people who need love and understanding.

To Leslie 7007 - yes, I agree with you that for the most part, these people are lower IQ and lower class. And they do NOT like anyone who is cosmopolitan. They like people who are religious zealots. They truly are sanctimonious, judgmental, tight-fisted, narrow minded, holy-holy, and puritanical. I believe that not all born agains are racially biased, but ALL whom I have met are!!! I just do not know how my husband could have gotten sucked into this in earlier years. Just amazes me. However, he is not like these people. He just calls himself born again because someone close to him asked him to dedicate his life to Christ at a Billy Graham meeting. He did so and then went forward in his life. He did NOT tell me he considered himself born again until after we were married.

Yes, Christians are human too. And I am a very tolerant, loving, compassionate person. I have been ripped to shreds by these people. I am different so they did not want to 'include' me in their own kind. And yes, Christ loves us ALL. Trying tell the born again people who are my husband's friends that. They don't like anyone but their own kind. They do not like regular Christians. They did not even know who I was or know of any reason to shun me. They just saw that I did not act like them. And this is very true. I would never act as they do. And for them being my husband's friends, they are not. They do not associate with him any more because he moved and they did not like this. They felt he deserted them by moving (how moronic huh?). We had to move because his adult? children hated that we married and have treated us like dirt. Some of them are born again too. And one of the born again daughters proceeded to shun us and not talk to either of us as we were dating. At the time we went to church and I was very polite and kind to the. But that was not good enough because I took the place of their Mother they think, and I was not who they might have picked out. But their Father picked me out. We have gone through HELL because of these born again people. And I am very glad that you love animals. However, of all the people in my husband's life who are born again and are mean spirited, not a single one of them likes animals. In fact, one woman a real true holy roller and born again, said their children were 'rotten' and were very dysfunctional. She did NOT like that I loved my dog. When he would come up to her, she would move up her arms so that he could not touch her. She gave this exaggerated performance so that my wonderful, well-behaved dog would not be able to touch her holy body. She was also rude and mean to me. After our wedding, she invited herself over to our house and she said, "(husband's name), you sure do have a nice home here". This was so she could exclude me in this because she knew the children did not approve of our marriage (or any marriage). So, here I am just skimming over the tip of the iceberg with my experiences. And the sad thing is that all of these have saddened my husband and myself and left our lives torn and shattered by the meanness of the children and the so-called friends. So, I hope you could shed some light on this for me, as I have always gone to church and considered myself a Christian. Now I do not go to church nor want to. It reminds me of them and all our pain!!!

I am a born again Christian and I tell you I love animals. I have a cat, dog, fish and 3 hamsters. <br />
Christians are human, we all make mistakes. I'm sure the people on this site are loving people and do care about others just as Christians do. All it comes down to in the end is that we are all God's children and no matter how hard we should try to love the other as Christ does. God Bless all

I was travelling home a few days ago from a hearing for the infamous Michael Wondra, Roberts, WI, horrific dog abuse/death perpetrator. I plan to go to the next one. I was ruminating in my own head about the people who attended. They were good, kind, compassionate people (I had not priorly known) who hugged me in our common cause. I had an 'ah ha' moment and realized that ALL animal rights people I have met, without an exception, are not religious. They are also GOOD people who live by the golden rule. They also do care about child abuse (in the event anyone says they care ONLY for animals). It is unreal that I never noticed before about the lack of compassion among religious zealots. I am spiritual and I was raised Catholic. I believe in a Higher Power. I DETEST the judgmental nature of the religious zealots. <br />
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I married a wonderful man 3 years ago. We have a later life marriage. I just had another 'ah ha' moment one day recently when I realized that all his friends are born again Christians and all of these people, without exceptions, do not care two hoots about animals, other than to eat them. He has declared that he is a born again, but he does not even know what that entails. He is a born again by default, as his deceased wife was an active born again. He just says he is. He loves animals and my dog. He is not a phony. His friends who are born agains, are all phony, each and every one of them. They rejected me and I could not figure out why. I have always been like the minute I meet someone. I get comments like, "I feel like I have know you for 50 years". Yet the born agains realized I am not one of them and they set out to ignore me. They talk to my husband only and love to exclude me. We are finding new friends since we moved away from where he lived for 26 years. It is a breath of fresh air to meet 'NORMAL people'. <br />
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I love life and I am compassionate and caring. I love people. I want this reciprocated and want to be affirmed if I am to spend my time and energy with someone. AMEN!!!<br />
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A good example of someone I do NOT want to meet and befriend is someone like Pat Robertson. Note the horrible and downright STUPID things he said about Haitians.

I call them God - botherers. Typically they are lower middle - class,but consider themselves higher on the social scale. They are usually sanctimonious, judgmental and tight - fisted. They will pass out blessings all you like,but will not give away a shekel of their money.They are completely unaware of the absurdities in the bible.They will accept the odd token black into their congregation,but inwardly are racist and intolerant. They feel more secure if they try to convert others to their deluded beliefs. They are homophobic,except the gay ones,who include most of the clergy. Nazis in twin sets.

I have this experience also. I am a good person, kind, compassionate, love animals (all born agains that I have met do NOT like animals), and I feel I am excluded from my husband's friends' list. They do not seem to accept me and I have not told them one way or the other what I believe. I have been married three years and I just realized this week that all his friends are born again and that they do not really appreciate my qualities. My husband was married to a born again Christian, who died. It seems to me that he is just along for the ride now, as he does not practice it. Yet his born again friends come over and they do not seem to like me. I always wondered why because normal people do like me when meeting me. I always experience new friends gravitating to me and want to get to know me. BUT, not born agains. It is horrible to be in a new marriage and to experience this exclusivity from people who are supposedly my husband's friends!!!

My comment to Happymum is that I can totally relate to what you are saying. I see that you have a dog for an Avatar. That is awesome. It is my experience that the born agains think that animals are here on this earth for their use. That God gave them these animals for their use in any way they want. I recently had some born agains come to visit on a mission to our house. I mentioned the Michael Wondra (now known all over the US) animal abuse case. The born again woman did not seem to care and she said, "Oh yeah, it happens all the time". And then she went on how God told her to do this and do that. It is UNREAL.

I have this experience also. I am a good person, kind, compassionate, love animals (all born agains that I have met do NOT like animals), and I feel I am excluded from my husband's friends' list. They do not seem to accept me and I have not told them one way or the other what I believe. I have been married three years and I just realized this week that all his friends are born again and that they do not really appreciate my qualities. My husband was married to a born again Christian, who died. It seems to me that he is just along for the ride now, as he does not practice it. Yet his born again friends come over and they do not seem to like me. I always wondered why because normal people do like me when meeting me. I always experience new friends gravitating to me and want to get to know me. BUT, not born agains. It is horrible to be in a new marriage and to experience this exclusivity from people who are supposedly my husband's friends!!!

Happened to my mom, Thank God she divorced him two years later.

I agree with you. I married a woman who all the sudden found god! I am like the anti christ here with all my bible pushing idiot neighbors. I beleive in god but do not feel the need to push my thoughts on to others. There is no need to look down at a person because they do not want to be preached to alllllllllll the time. F them all

I am sorry you had a bad experience with Christians. I hope that you don't hate all Christians... I've found that there are morons in all walks of life, Christianity included... stinks that there aren't more intelligent people in the world.