Gentlemen, are you still alive? You should show yourselves sometimes, we miss you!

And i said under this post, to avoid the misunderstandings, what i really meant with that, i'll copy - paste :


Hmm, a PERVERT is that one who whats to influence someone to behave sexually in a way that is considered to be wrong, to try sexual perversions, but the definition for this "perverts" that we're talking about, is different, first of all, i will repeat myself and i'll mention that i don't mean to offend someone, so i apologize if someone feels this way.
Because it takes me too much to say that i'm feeling disrespected when one of them is sending me a message telling me how "big" he is, or how much he would like to **** me in different possitions without even saying HELLO, just starting so random with this sexual conversations when i'm not looking for that, i might be in a bad mood, i might feel sick or just simply i would like to don't be distrubed with this kind of sentences, and they should simply think that not all of us are here with this purpose, some of us are looking for decency and respectful conversations and if i would like to have "dirty" conversations i'll let him know after giving him respect and time, mistery, etc, I SIMPLY call him a PERVET.
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To me, it's less about people being perverted and more about common decency and being respectful.

I would never walk up to a woman and brag about my physical attributes as part of my introduction and then simply ask her to join me in a back alley. And, if I WERE to ask, I would never want to be with a woman who said yes!

Ladies and gentleman can be sexual beings without being rude or disrespectful. It's really not all that difficult.

r u a tough *****, can u fight, would u want one?

Can u help me understand you definition of a PERVERT?

Hmm, a PERVERT is that one who whats to influence someone to behave sexually in a way that is considered to be wrong, to try sexual perversions, but the definition for this "perverts" that we're talking about, is different, first of all, i will repeat myself and i'll mention that i don't mean to offend someone, so i apologize if someone feels this way.
Because it takes me too much to say that i'm feeling disrespectful when one of them is sending me a message telling me how "big" he is, or how much he would like to **** me in different possitions without even saying HELLO, just starting so random with this sexual conversations when i'm not looking that, i might be in a bad mood, i might feel sick or just simply i would like to don't be distrubed with this kind of sentences, and they should simply think that all of us are here with this purpose, some of us are looking for decency and respectful conversations and if i would like to have "dirty" conversations i'll let him know after giving him respect and time, mistery, etc, I SIMPLY call him a PERVET.

Thank you for your clarification. I appreciate it. I am not interested in say sexual talk unless it is warrented. U should really get to know someone first. Young or old does not matter. It is who you are. Again thank you take care

you don't have to thank me, i felt like i was irritating some men with this post so this is why i apoligized and said exactly what i meant. Thank you for understanding me :), Take care you too!

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As a former gentlemen, I'm curious in what's you definition of pervert? Can a woman be a pervert?

that's what i said above Hmm, a PERVERT is that one who whats to influence someone to behave sexually in a way that is considered to be wrong, to try sexual perversions, but the definition for this "perverts" that we're talking about, is different, first of all, i will repeat myself and i'll mention that i don't mean to offend someone, so i apologize if someone feels this way. " just to make myself understood. Yes, everyone can be a pervert, of course.

Thanks for your answer and I agree with your definition of pervert giving you unwanted sexual advances upfront without getting to know you for both genders. Just wanted to rule out that your definition isn't: An unattractive person that flirts with you or says hello is a pervert. To answer you question why men are perverts, especially on social media, is that they have no repercussions for being a pervert online because they are completely anonymous. If a man acts like a pervert in a bar, he'll get slapped by the woman, or she'll have another man play the White Knight role to have him beaten to a pulp. However, on the internet, a pervert can get FREE adult entertainment by messaging other women that love to talk dirty back. He might have to send out 100 perverted messages, but he'll eventually get 1 woman to talk dirty back.


Generally, men think about sex most of the time. Perverts are just more open about it. Case in point: The adult entertainment industry is geared mainly for men. People love to fantasize in what they can't have. For men, it's having sex with young beautiful women. One key thing that adult entertainment industry can't do is to be interactive with the viewer. The closest interactive erotica we have is adult video chat, or virtual reality which cost money. So what we have today is men using social media as adult chat rooms for a cheap thrill.


Where are all the gentlemen? I've read a lot of articles lately of "Where are all the nice guys?" A lot has to do with feminism and the vast majority of modern women just aren't wife material. Wife material is a woman like your grandma. For example, a woman that's supportive, didn't fornicate, raised her children at home, faithful, pleasant, classy, cooks home cooked meals, and kept the house in order. In exchange, the husband is happy to provide for his family by working like a work horse at the factory. Now, we have a big cultural shift between the sexes thanks to feminism. Women make up half the workforce, being promiscuous isn't stigmatized, posting selfies on Facebook half naked for male friends to hit the like button to fuel their egos, and their role models are Kim Kardashian and Miley Cyrus. Generally, these type of women when they are young and hot do not want a gentlemen. They want the bad boy: The bodybuilder with a motorcycle, the drummer in the band with a neck tattoo, or the drug dealer with dreads.


When a woman gets passed her prime in attractiveness as she ages, she'll now settle down for a gentlemen ( when the bad boys trades up and no longer wants them). They love the gentlemen because he's more likely to open his wallet and be a utility for a woman. Typically, a man that's exploited for his kindness. These men are in demand by women looking for a provider and not a lover. Young gentlemen see the raw deal they are dealt and either go their own way and avoid relationships completely, or become the bad boys that women love . This is why I speculate that the gentlemen are becoming extinct.

"Just wanted to rule out that your definition isn't: An unattractive person that flirts with you or says hello is a pervert. " i have not said that, i don't believe this, for sure i don't call those people perverts, i said above what i meant "i'm feeling disrespectful when one of them is sending me a message telling me how "big" he is, or how much he would like to **** me in different possitions without even saying HELLO, just starting so random with this sexual conversations when i'm not looking that, i might be in a bad mood, i might feel sick or just simply i would like to don't be distrubed with this kind of sentences"


yess, sadly this is true "Typically, a man that's exploited for his kindness. These men are in demand by women looking for a provider and not a lover" but in my opinion, this men are allowing to these women to act this say, to treat way this way, maybe not in every case is hapening this way, but in some of them, yes and again i believe that is something sexual, many men likes to feel this way and is not something pervert, is something in their sexuality i guess, i've read about it. Anyway, in the end i think every woman needs a gentlemanly lover :)

Just wanted to rule out that your definition IS NOT: An unattractive person that flirts with you or says hello is a pervert.


I thought that was "going" to be your definition before you answered. Never said it "is" what you said.

I'm sorry, it's my fault, english is not my native language and many times i understand wrong, i apologize.

Now you have me wondering. What's your definition of a gentlemen? Does he have to submit to all your demands and also be chivalrous?

no, he doesn't have to do all my demands, this is something should both do it, being nice to each other is what it matters, of course i would never exaggerate with this "demands", i would ask for little things we could do together and if i want something like an help, i would ask if i can have his support.

I guess this is the best definition, is how i see a gentleman:
"(n.) A man of calm demeanor, strong preserve, intellectual thinking, polite yet meaningful speak and a good upbringing. A fighter for the cause of right with words, not guns.
A true gentlemen is a respectable thing to be. A wannabe is a very bad thing to be, since you shall nto be liked."

Well, I think most women here in the United States see gentlemen as doormats. You must be from another country where being a gentlemen to women are respected.

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The gentlemen are also perverts. They just don't show it. They are ninja perverts.

This comment makes no sense at all...

brilliant comment and true. Women are ninja perverts too

I am a gentleman. I admit I have some pretty perverted thoughts, but I will keep them to myself, unless I know someone wants to share in them. Otherwise I refuse to offend others with them.

this was my point, we are all pervs, women as well, is in our nature, but as you said, we share this with someone interested about and not disrespect other people and send this kind of message, decency is very important.

How to be a gentleman and not be mistaken for a creep - A step by step guide by JourneyOfLife:

- In public places, offer your seat to elderly ladies. Young ladies will take it as a weak approach by you to get into her pants.
- Hold the door open for everyone. Even the burly biker behind you and give him the same smile as you would to a pretty young lady.
- Just generally be nice. If you expect that a girl will fall for you because you're such a nice guy and a gentleman, YOU'RE NOT A GENTLEMAN! You're trying to be smooth while actually being desperate!
- Be polite and nice to everyone and not just the pretty girl. It's because we tend to act different around girls that we get mistaken for creeps.
- Try to have a blank expression when being nice to someone. I rarely get mistaken for a creep this way. Being nice with a smile seems to make them think you're a creep but doing so without a blank expression makes them think you're just naturally nice so your face is expressionless.

"In public places, offer your seat to elderly ladies. Young ladies will take it as a weak approach by you to get into her pants." Not all of us will think this way, and if there are women who are thinking this way is also because of oher men who do treat girls nice just to get in their pants and i'm sure you know that's true, they are using this fake gentlemenly way of talking to be tagged at good guys and then we know what's going to happen.
Men should not be nice to other people just for themselves sometimes because not everyone knows how to appreciate this kind of person, people are bad and take take advantage of those gentlemen, sadly.
I was talking just about men being nice because this was about the post, men, but of course, we all have to be nice.

Exactly, I agree with you. Oversexed perverts have given us gentlemen a bad name. So even if we're genuine gentlemen, we're judged.

I'm alive. :D

The problem is people are so sexually driven these days. It's easy to just have sex or **********. But to get off on mental stimulation, that's a whole different thing. I wish more men AND women would see the human anatomy and sex for what it really is. Instead they obsess and feel like they "need" it when in reality there's too many people on the planet anyway and none of us should be reproducing intentionally. We are creatures of habit and greed. However we were given the capability to learn, give them time a lot of the "gentlemen" just haven't found themselves yet. Good luck and god speed you magnificent son of a *****. :):)

i don't know how to translate your expression "God speed you magnificent son of a *****" but anyway, yes, people don't value things anymore, how they should, i didn't mean to offend someone and i apologize if i did that, this post was an impulse, i was getting sick of those kind of messages, i had no idea that people will comment to this post. I have no problem with sex or sexual conversations, but those are with the right person, with the one i allready got in touch with mental stimulation, but before all of this, i would like to see decency and education.

Keep The Faith, We're Here.

Good for you, i'm glad to see this :)

im not a pervert im just high on meth and masturbatinn while typin

i guess you have your own definition of "pervet"

Me too i hate them so much:(

Hello, we still alive, but we are very rare lol

hello there, gentleman, well.. true and sad, but keep it this way :)

We still exist. We just seem to be overlooked more often than not.

that's the sad part, i know and i feel sorry about that. You don't have to change, keep it this way because there are people who are appreciating you.

I've seen a couple - they are on life support around here somewhere.

what do you mean with "life suport", sorry, my english is not that good

Sorry, my attempt at humor.

Some in a hospital with wires and tubes in them to keep them alive when they are seriously ill are referred to as being on "life support"

I wanna see that kind of couple :).
You don't have to apologize, i like humor, just sometimes i don't see it or understand it because english is not my native language.

I like to think I'm a gentleman. Unfortunately it just usually means the women I want walk all over me. But I am technically alive.

You have to keep it this way, being a gentleman, many people are appreciating this.

Don't think I really have any choice, I can't do the whole treat em like dirt thing. I'm also way to old to be perving on strangers. Still, I can't help but feel like nice guys end up being treated like dirt.

yes, sadly many nice men end up that way, but this should not make them stop being nice, this is how life works.. good and bad things are happening every day

yer, i have the same problem, but stay a gentleman, there's still a few good Women out there who won't walk over you just because they can,
As for the EP Perverts, kind of noticed that, but they're just sad people who got lost somewhere, and hate the idea of other people having love affairs that don't just revolve around a bed,

yes, some of them are sad people who lost themselves in this "****" world just to get away from problems and stuff, but arround here are also people with not this kind of problems, they just don't care about decency.

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I love 'em.

you love the perv? why is that?

Because of the definition that you, and many other EPers use for "perv". Just because you don't like the attention of -whatever you decide a perv is- in a public forum is not a viable definition of a perv.

well, i was talking about the pervs arround here, in real life, men are not that brave anymore, they are a bit shy and kinda hide this sexual part of them, they cannot say what's on their mind so easily, which is a good thing.

It is your age that makes the distinction. I do not believe that sex is perverted. All you have to do is ignore the request or say no. Some men are blunt, some are shy, some women are bit*hy some are sweet, that portion of their personalities are not the definition of a pervert.

i know that this is a social site, we are free to say whatever we want, this is what i was doing too. Maybe it is my age because are many things i don't know about, life will teach me many things i'll need to know, but i'm sure that i'm able to understand what a "pervet" means. I didn't said NO to sex, i just said NO to people who forgot about decency.

Most men don't think that i may not be interested in, they only care about how they feel and what they want, they should treat us with respect, not like some toys. I agree that are bit*hy women, dissrespectful men/women but this doesn't mean that i have to be like them. In the end you are with who you're having sex ( my english is bad and i might said the expression wrong )

It's and endless subject, i was just looking for decency, i love sex, is what we are. Gentlemen do understand this.

Thank you for proving my point. Just because they answer you, and/or possibly turn the topic toward a sexual nature does not make them a pervert. You may not like that type of attention but then again this is a public forum and free speach prevails. You are not required to answer. Just act as if it is not there. If it is really offensive then block that person. Your judgement of their nature is no different than their judgement of yours.

1-no harm in asking
2-Sex is out there no matter how much you want to deny it.
3-men are raised by women and treat them as we've been taught.
4-If women did not want the sexual attention then why do they respond?
5-Hinting at sex is not degrading to women. Look at all the depressed women on here because they aren't being loved.

If you want to be attractive then understand that you way attract advances that you personally don't like, but that others may truly enjoy. Flirting is not perverted. And flirting is not degrading to women. (or men for that matter)

thank you, OldViking, i appreciate! And i have the same opinion as you do, we have no right to assume that our interests are the same. I saw that many men are talking nice to women just to make them feel comfortable so in the end they could use this for getting to sexual subjects, but meanwhile the women might have another opinion, they just might believe that he's friendly, educated and simply looking for some new friends.

And then men are understanding that we are positive for sex, which is a mistake ( but of course, not everytime is this way )

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If u mean that the gentlemen is the one who doesnt talk aboiy sex . For me is bot gent... At all . .... Because it is normal feeling when someone takn with beautifuo girl adn he turn on . Buy unforyenetly girls nowadays prefer the one the is soooooo cold .

no, i know that sex is in our nature but is something we should do at the right time with the right person, many people forgot about mistery and decency, that's what i was talking about, is too much sex in everything, i like to see how men are interested more in discovering the woman before anything else and not in a sexual way.

Ok i agree with you . But the first thing comes to people's mind when they see a beautiful girl is how she is good in bed . Even when they talk with them they think like that . Yeah it is true that they have to find the right time . But some people can not control their selves . And for me it is normal because his desire is higher . What i wondring why people and u also cosidered them as not gentelmen .

I don't consider those "pervs" as gentlemen because in my opinion sex is something private, i don't think about it when i'm talking to someone, i only think about when i'm talking to my fiance, is the only time when i'm a "pervet" too, SO this is why i don't like when men throw themselves so much into sexual subjects when the other person is not interested, in this case "me".

But when i see that a man is acting nice trying to make me feel comfortable with him ( and makes me belive that he want's a friend, but in fact that's not what he wants) so in the end he will use this just to bring sexual conversations, not cause he might care about how i feel like, it makes me sad :) because the conversations is so fake, is just about having sex with me or other girls

But absolutly he has to treat the woman as she diserve not just for sex . Because women are the most beautiful creatures in the world and we have to treat them well with respect . And everything

well that's what i meant, that's what i was looking for :)

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Ask for a dance?

a good old jazz?

Hi, hats off ;)

hehe, lucky me:)

yeah, so far 44 times lucky you ;)

not so man times, there are my comments too:) and not everyone does agree with me in this topic

I haven't count it really, just took the number of responses under you main text :) so my bad, sorry

i know what you meant, don't worry, you don't have to apologize :)

but still I can ;)

yes, but nothing was wrog, but i appreciate

you know, gentlmen... ;)

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OH AND the things some of you women write, like the topic above you right now for me, "I am a young girl attracked to older men" and the one below.

"i will answer your dirty questions" lol.

They do not really help matters for you guys much..:P

hmm, people are telling their concerns in here, what's on their mind because sometimes you would like to see what other people think about things are going in your life, i guess we all have something "dirty" inside us, maybe this is all about those topics above mine. What did you meant with "They do not really help matters for you guys much" sorry, sometimes i don't understand everything because my native language is not english.

Not all of us are like this, just the morons who can't get laid lol.

you wanna say that gentlemen don't exist anymore? they are acting nice just to get laid?

Helloooooooooooo.

I am a gentleman, talk to me!

haha, hey there gentlelady :)

Would you like to chat privately?

sure, if you need someone to talk to :)

Wait....can a pervert be a gentleman? Secondly are perverts exclusively male?

in my option we all are pervets, not just men, women too, but we have to be at the right moment with the right person :)

Interesting way to look at it. I suppose that would be like saying everyone is abnormal because normality is subjective based on many factors.

yes they still in here,

nice to see that, i'm glad, keep it this way

What is a gentleman?

"(n.) A man of calm demeanor, strong preserve, intellectual thinking, polite yet meaningful speak and a good upbringing. A fighter for the cause of right with words, not guns.
A true gentlemen is a respectable thing to be. A wannabe is a very bad thing to be, since you shall nto be liked."

My heart still beats.

lol'ed

we are out here its just some of us are old men

old? not at all :)

yes we are still here we are tired of the rejection and dealing with seeing the one we want turning away from us

who would reject a gentleman?

ask my last two ex's

Amen!

I strongly agree with you on that front!

Maybe you should go involve yourself in the latest ****** thread if you're looking for that kind of attention.

Wakeupdead, i was looking for smart conversations, not attention

I just assumed since you posted in the I hate EP perverts section but asked for males

Here is a missunderstanding, my first intentions wasn't about talking to people, i just wanted to say my point, is just an opinion, i wasn't expecting for comments to be honest but i got surprised to see that people are saying theyir point of view.

I'm sure you will get inundated with a thread like this

i like to see when people are looking for good and decent conversations :)

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Yes there are a few of us gentlemen in here

I'm glad to see that, your number should get bigger

I don't know if you can be a gentleman without being an adult, but I'm here.

Hmm, i guess is called education for kids :D and i'm glad to see that you're arround here:) keep being a gentleman

it's gonna pretty terrible...I thought all the changes a while ago would clear em out.

Well hello to you too nice lady. Don't fret as we are still here :)

Hey there :) ghhh, sorry but i have no idea what "fret" means, my english sucks.
Good to see that you're still there, you give me hope, haha

Well the expression "Don't fret" means "Fear not" or "Don't be afraid". It is common for gentleman to use this expression I think xD

Ah, well my native language is not english so i don't allways understand the expressions, but that's for telling me that :D I'll remember.

I used to be a gentleman until I realised that there's no point.

That can't be right, why would you give up at being a gentleman? I hope is not because of women

Observe your surroundings. How many of your friends are dating guys who can be called true gentlemen? How many of your guy friends who are true gentlemen are popular with the ladies?

If a guy a woman finds attractive does something out of the blue for her he is the sweetest gentleman ever. If it's a guy the girl isn't attracted to he's creepy.

^This!

Sad but true, i don't like that i have to admit this reality but not everyone is like that

Between reality and but i forgot to type " , " :D

Hey, JourneyOfLife, i'm pretty bad at having friends or making friends, i have just few and those 2 girl friends that i have, are dating true gentlemen and i'm not just saying, it's true, are great man with a huge respect for the loved one(s) and not just that, of course

So find out of she's into you before doing something out of the blue for her?

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And what color was your last poop?

Was dresses in a gentlemanly costume

Why, if it isn't dear old sally! How have you been doing fair lady?

The reason I haven't showed myself is because my gentlemanly mustache has accidently been shaven. I was like "Oh goodness gracious me!" and went into hiding after that. Though all is well now I suppose.

During my hiding time, I have partaken is jolly activities like mastering walking with the cane and making truly stupendous tea! My monocle could've really used a pick-me-up so I have cleaned it well, I have really taken a shine to it. Get it? Hmhmhm, of course you get my daring humour.

Haha, yeees, your humour really made me smile! It is a bit complicated for me to translate what you said so i'm going to use google translator (blush), but just for some few words so i might understand exactly what you meant !
Dear gentleman, is your mustache feeling better? I really hope it is because it looks like is very important to you :D ha! By the way, i enjoy reading your comment, your gebtlemanly way of being couldn't hide. (I apologize for my bad english)

Why thank you. That is quite alright my lady. For you see, the way I speak is truly a sign of a stereotypical gentleman, wouldn't you agree? As such, not everyone has the ability to understand the way I speak. No doubt you must think that I am taking this role quite too far, which I certainly understand.

But dear Sally, my mustache is fine now, it is as gentlemanly as ever. If anything, I think it made me even more of a gentleman. Why thank you! It is indeed quite an enjoyable activity to read all the messages I am relaying unto you, is it not?

No apologies needed my lady. I assume that english is not your native tongue, as such it is not such big a deal, so do carry on!

If you are referring to me, I am unfamiliar with those you call Dickens, are you willing to elaborate as to whom they might be?

I might've heard of the bloke, but I am unfamiliar of who he might actually be. Accept my apologies for my ignorance my lady.

It's fine the way you talk, is interesting and old school, of course, this might be the secret about how nice it sounds. Oh and no, you're not taking this role too far, how i said before, is a pleasure reading your comments :) .
Well yes, my native language is not english, i keep trying to speak better your language.
Oh and i would talk as you do if i would have a better english, i would look interesting as you do :D but damn, i don't and is annoying

Well, to be honest, I never actually talk like that hahaha. Though over the years, i've picked up on a few things and am able to write in different ways. English isn't my native language either though, so I can understand your struggle.

Is not your native language? Huh, that's really nice, your english is very good, i guess you're working somewhere you need to know so good the language, or you took some classes, or somethins this type.
I'm sure that's not the way you talk everyday, but i liked that you wrote this way because i "asked" for this gentlymanly mood

Thanks. Actually, I learned my english mostly from playing video games hahaha. I don't really have much need for my english besides that and conversing in english. English was taught at school, but I practically knew everything already lol. Well sure, if you had asked for a pirate mood, I would've talked like a pirate. Why? I like talking in dofferent english ways lol.

Different*

Video games? Damn, i'm embarased to admit but i'm playing word of warcraft allmost everyday and i'm soon 22, i'm playing video games since 14 but my english is not as good as yours, you're smarter.

Gentlemanly*

Haha well, been playing since I was 4 and a half so yeah. :P I've had more years to learn haha.

Of course, I AM gentlemanly.

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I know right? Some girl made a post about how she had sex with her uncle once and went through this whole description about how amazing it was and sooo many men said it was hot, to message them, or how they wish they were her uncle. And I commented on it saying it was disgusting and how I cannot believe so many men are into that! And I get hateful responses from some of the men saying that I am probably into stuff that would make them puke. They were trying to defend their love of ******. And I'm just like...you gotta be kidding me. People on here are disgusting.

Lol, that's awful! Is really sick, how can someone post something like this? I would like to believe that she lied, it was a way to look for attention.. maybe, but still sick! And of course, tones of pervs comment to that. It's really stupid

Idk, but I'm only here to make friends and talk to new people. Lol : )

Most of us are looking for this, let's just hope that we are going to find it :D

Yeah I hope so too. : )

lol

Why is that?

how can a guy be a gentlemen and reply to this? gentlemen dont brag and if someone does he isnt a gentleman

To be honest, i wasn't expecting for men to reply to this, my point was that not all women are here for having sexual conversations and men should think twice before they are sending that kind of message ( i'm talking about pervs, i didn't mean to offend someone. Sorry for my bad english )

lol im not offended, i came to this site by accident and when i saw the amount of people seeking advices i had to stay.

Yes, i would like to be in a position to give advices too.. Well, anyway..nice to see that you wanna helpt :)

Help*

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