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I Hate Hawaii

The worst place I have ever lived. Never have I experienced a group of such self rightous people who expect others to be so beholden to them, yet claim the reason why they dislike "outsiders" is because they are arrogant. I find simply being kind and open is the way to go, always. Not here. If you are not local, meaning you have lived there forever, forget getting a decent (still crappy in comparison to what you can do elsewhere, not limited to the mainland) job. I think they wear living there for years as a badge of honor because it is sucks so much, it is an endurance contest. I have never been to a place where people introduce themselves by how long they have lived there, Really. Who cares. The longer you live in Hawaii, the crazier you become. I am an educated person who has held a professional job for some years, and decided to move out to Hawaii with my fiancee to start our new lives together. After much planning and saving, off we went to begin our future. I have lived and travelled all over the world, so I figured I could make it anywhere. This still holds true. I can make it anywhere. But damn did I hate Hawaii, and I wouldn't want to live there if it were free.

First, while I appreciate cultures in all shapes and styles, I will say the culture of Hawaii doesn't have a whole lot to capture my interest. I do not find the inability to spell or speak English (should it be the speakers primary language of course) acceptable by any means. And yes, I probably have some errors in here, but please, don't bother being trivial by pointing them out, you get the point. I do not find the local color charming by any means. To me, it is base.

Second, The weather claims to be so beautiful. Bull. It is blazing hot, monotonous, humid and no matter how many showers I took, I felt dirty. My fiancee and I always woke up in a pool of sweat and we couldn't even fall asleep in each others arms anymore because it was too damn hot. Why not run the AC you ask? Because our electric bill was 300 bucks a month and that is just running a couple of fans and really trying to conserve energy in our 900 dollar a month studio shithole. Of course my college degree not only did not matter but was basically frowned upon (what, she thinks she is better than us??), I found myself working the WORST job of my life. You have to work there YEARS just to be a waiter, and the waiters would not even talk to me because I was just so lowly. Seriously, to be shunned by waiters at a crappy job was just too much. Plus I busted my *** and made the worst money I have made since high school. Ughh. Just writing this gets me heated. I wouldn't feel so demeaned working hard at a low paying job if there was a sense of family, but there wasn't. I was a serf and treated as such. Bullshit I say. NEVER, not because I am better, but because I would never treat someone like that no matter what they were doing.

Third, Rock fever, man. I have to see more than just what is Hawaiin. I need a rest from it. A reprieve. Not happening. All Hawaii, all the time. It is enough to make me want to slit my wrists. I like museums, art is a vise to me, seeing shows, going to a reading, a concert, whatever. I need that stuff like I need water. If you just want to sit on a beach and talk about nothing all day while slaughtering the English language, Hawaii is for you. Not me. If anyone local reads this, all I can say is, it is truly your loss. I have dedicated my life to helping others who move to the States figure it out and get comfortable. It is my occupation. Perhaps this is why I am so sensitive to such an attitude coming from people who have no right to have one. Island hillbillys I call you. Get some education and then maybe I will think your point is valid. Otherwise, enjoy your crappy lives.
realaloha realaloha 31-35, F 58 Responses Nov 1, 2012

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In response to some of your points

The "slaughtered English" as you call it is called pidgin. Pidgin is not English however, it really is its own language. When plantations were a melting pot of people from all over the world (ie China, Japan, Portugal etc) the inhabitants never had an efficient way of communicating with each other ergo pidgin was born. While pidgin may sound like broken English, it's actually a mixture of other languages with English as its base. They may borrow words, sentence structures, or full sentences from a different language. Take the word "hanabata" for example "hana" meaning nose is Japanese "bata" being a derivative of butter combines to make "hanabata" or nose booger. The reason why many locals speak pidgin is because most of us are decents of plantation workers and a lot of locals have mixed blood (I for example am Hawaiian, Chinese, Portuguese) and when your parents speak pidgin and their parents speak pidgin, guess what, you're more than likely going to speak pidgin. Many locals can speak and write proper English well, it's just that pidgin is used as casual talk. Pidgin is a representation of many locals heritage.

I'm sorry you found the humidity unpleasant, even I find it uncomfortable when come back to Hawaii after being in the mainlands dry heat. But is it really anyone's fault? I mean wouldn't that be expected since Hawaii is located between the Tropic of Cancer and the Tropic of Capricorn? And yes the cost of living does suck here, every local knows that. But when realtors start building condos that most people can't afford more people move to lower income neighborhoods which then drives up the cost of those places due to the high demand. It's an unfortunate result too many people in too little of a place. I'm sorry for your poor experience in work place however, I'm surprised that your degree was frowned upon (the "think she's better than us" isn't exclusive to Hawaii though), but I feel like that's more of an issue with your employer than it is with Hawaii.

Honestly, if your not a beach or outdoorsy person, Hawaii isn't for you. I agree that the club, concert, art scene isn't good here, but that's really a result of the fact the Hawaii is 2000 miles away and is an inconvenient trip for any artist, band, or museum exhibit. Locals understand that which is why when big name bands like U2, or the police show up the tickets sell out in minutes because things like those are a rarity here. Once again it's not really anyone's fault, it's just the way it is due to its geographical location.

I apologize on behalf anyone who has made your time in Hawaii unpleasent. But please don't generalize us as these fat, lazy, uneducated Hawaiians. If history is your thing, then try out hawaiian history from a Hawaiian perspective and maybe you'll understand why Hawaii is the way it is and maybe the next time you visit, you'll have a more enjoyable experience. Mahalo

Most "Hawaiians" have a white mother or father which is so funny...try asking a couple of them if one of their parents is a white. Hawaiians feel like if you have it they should too! Agreed a complete mental midget state!

I am a Native Hawaiian PhD Candidate so I have my education. I am also a Professor so I also provide education to those seeking it. I too have experienced similar feelings at certain jobs. Like every single culture out there, it is who you surround yourself with (and I apologize for ending the sentence with a preposition but I'm not writing a dissertation here so I assume you'll understand). I have lived here all of my life and I too have traveled the world. It is as beautiful and as ugly as anywhere else. We didn't ask to be painted as the tourist destination, as the place of beautiful blue skies, tiki torches (which is ethnically incorrect by the way), and Mai Tais (thank you very much Elvis). It is a beautiful place but it has the same amount of stress, heartache, ignorance, beauty, love, peace, hope, and everything else as every other geographical location out there. There is unfortunately a lot of discrimination out there going both ways but I never let it stop me. I used it as fuel to show others that Native Hawaiians are intelligent, loving, and open. Others may choose another method that is less successful. Either way, none of it is your fault and I truly am sorry for your experiences. Please don't fault Hawaii. I don't want to change your mind about my home but just as I would if you had been mistreated in my actual physical home, I would like to sincerely apologize for the hurt that you felt living here and thank you for thinking of it as a place worth relocating to (again sorry for the preposition). True Hawaiians extend love, acceptance, and aloha. Scarred and scared Hawaiians extend fear and insecurity. Either way deep down we are supposed to be raised to be strong, intelligent, hardworking, and above all RESPECTFUL. It is with nothing but humility and respect that I genuinely apologize that my home did not make you feel at home. Blessings and luck to you and your fiancee.

I do not understand most of these responses. We lived in Hawaii for several years, on Oahu. My husband was in the military, but I was able to find a decent job, I worked with both natives and locals to the islands. They were wonderful people. I am white/native American mix. Believe me I am more pale than brown/red skinned; nobody would know I am native American unless they asked. Nobody treated me in a way that made me feel any different than they are. I loved Hawaii, I cried when I left there. I respected their culture, their land, and their way of living. Mainlanders expect Hawaii to be like the rest of the mainland and it just isn't that way there. The Hawaiians never intended for it to be that way, this is why they resist the mainland take over. You have to understand and respect that to make it there. It was easy for me to understand where they were coming from, so instead of imposing my own way of living on them, I embraced theirs. It is a much more relaxed way of living. Before the American take over, they were able to fend for themselves, but the mainland civilization had created the Hawaiian economic deficit for their own people. They were content with living off the land and providing for one another. The introduction of stores, tourism, etc has destroyed their customs. How is this so hard to understand? Of course there are probably natives and locals alike that are not fond of Caucasians because of this, but to be honest, I never met one that treated me badly because I was white. We just visited again this past summer and it has changed, it is more populated than I remember, but the people have not. We had a wonderful vacation and reflected on some of the best memories of our lives in Oahu. I hope to be able to visit again and visit often. Hawaii and the people of Hawaii have my respect, it is such a culture shock for whites to be a minority somewhere and experience racism, but cover that with excuses as to where you lived previously with people of various ethnicities and "never experienced such racism". The difference is those people are used to living in the mainland as well, just like you, and they are not being asked to change their way of living to accommodate everyone else. Take a moment to see this from the Hawaiian's perspective and maybe you will understand their point.

They might have won the battle but we've won the war. They might taunt white people who visit the island but we got them by the balls that place is exploited to the max with mainland visitors. Are tax dollars pay for the islands welfare which gives us every right to march all over their once sacred paradise. And lets embrace the fact their uneducated, not ridicule them for being stupid and lazy, infact we should further encourage them totally forget about education and treat them like their animals. Its bad enough they know English, look what they've done with it, their using it against us and were getting mad at them for it? We should have never taught them that in the first place, the key to it all is to keep them below us and completely exploit their land and and just use them as savages we take pictures of for entertainment purposes. If they were educated like us they might cleverly find a way to take back control of the island. This would be devastating to our tourism industry. So lets not complain how stupid they are and keep encouraging their ways of life and terrible music so they'll keep acting as stupid savages that live under american law and their only purpose in life is to serve as a snapshot in a rich white persons photo album. Stop education their completely it will add more authetisity to someones vacation memories.

Wow. It's too bad that this discussion board doesn't require individuals posting to cite their sources because you are researching in the wrong location. Its like using Wikipedia as a resource in a doctoral dissertation. I am a PhD, I am a Native Hawaiian, and there are a lot of us. The fact that it is believed that we are ignorant savages says so much about the ignorance of others (just as I would be about another population that I don't understand although it really is none of my business to understand its simply my business to respect), I guess its not surprising. Thank you for continuing to inspire me to be better, to do more, and to empower others. We are here. We will always be here and I personally will always treat anyone and everyone that I am blessed to teach in my classroom or run into on the street with the utmost respect no matter the gender, race, religious preference, or sexual preference just like I've always done.

I've lived in many places throughout the continental United States, and seen our great country from many perspectives, my husband and I moved here as he is a retired navy officer and now he has started a new career with the government.
to many we seem "rich".......But I hate it here so much, I have never met so many stupid, inarticulate, bottom feeders in my life! My husband romanticized this place having been here as a child, but it is paradise lost...crowded, loud, chem trails everyday all day..obese disgusting people who refuse to assimilate as Americans...uneducated, happy, dumb and ignorant...sad. But I happen to know that The department homeland security is planning a mass sweep of illegals here and maybe they will walk into the ocean rather than go back to wherever-the-hell they escaped from.
I can't about a purge!

Maybe you should have done your research before you moved to Hawaii. Then you would have known it is hot and humid here, its a tropical island!!! What did you expect! You would have also known that the cost of living in Hawaii is high, and that the jobs here generally do not pay well compared to the mainland. I will be the first to admit that we do have some prejudice against mainlanders here (if YOU were more educated then you'd probably understand why). But we will return respect when respect is shown. Something that you obviously have no idea about. You can't just come here, plant your flag in the ground and expect the local people to show you respect without earning it! We don't go around criticizing people for their local style of language, or calling people hillbillies. What it sounds like to me is that you came to a place where you were the minority for once and you couldn't handle it! You came to Hawaii to live, but you brought the attitude of a tourist who expects everything to be catered to them. YOU are the reason people who live in Hawaii have an attitude toward mainlanders. So enjoy your life wherever you are now, and know that we are living very happy lives, not crappy ones.

A Stanford educated local boy.

For a guy who's clearly impressed with his own IQ, you haven't come up w a very compelling argument. You admit to locals having some prejudice against mainlanders (let's be real. It's against "whitey") and seem to suggest that it's warranted. Why? Because HI was "stolen" GENERATIONS ago? That makes local's prejudice/hostility/rudeness toward Caucasians, who had nothing to do w any takeover, TODAY justified? Come on! Many locals are just prejudiced because like most prejudiced people, they're ignorant (worst public school ranking in the country/1 in 6 are illiterate) and unaccomplished (huge welfare dependence and meth epidemic) and only feel better about themselves when bullying/putting others down. If you truly loved HI, you'd speak out against the racist locals and encourage them to take responsibility for fixing their own ghetto culture with above average rates of illiteracy, domestic violence, substance abuse and welfare dependence. Oh and asking yourself why you're trolling a blog dedicated to people who hate/have had negative experiences in HI might be a good start.

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I'm originally from TN but had been living in FL for some time. I work in the aerospace industry. i'm 37, white, male, single, educated and skilled. I took a job at Hilo Int'l Airport on the big island about 3 1/2 months ago. The lady that hired me was desperate to fill a position at the company, one which I was qualified for. I thought moving to Hawaii to live and work sounded like an adventure. I hadn't been there before, but I had traveled much of the US through work and I had no reason to think that I wasn't capable of adapting to the local culture - Dear God, was I wrong...

The first thing to know about "native" people living in Hawaii is that, by and large, they're not Hawaiian. They're mostly a mix of Samoan, Polynesian, Japanese, Philipino, Chinese, Korean, and other Pacific Island ethnicities. There are ethnic Hawaiians living on Hawaii, but they are pretty rare, and most have intermixed with these other races. What I found so ironic during my time there was that the people there don't speak Hawaiian at all. I listened to KAPA radio which plays music sung mostly in Hawaiian, which I really like. I asked a co-worker who is a local what some of the lyrics meant. He had no idea. No one else had any idea, either.

In a nutshell, my experience in Hawaii was not a good one. The examples of racial prejudice against immigrants from the mainland, especially whites, are true. I know, I'm white and I dealt with it every day. Sometimes, it was subtle, sometimes it was overt. For someone from the lower 48 who needs a frame of reference to compare the culture of native Hawaiians with, I would say the black culture from any major metro city in America will come close. They seem to have the family values approximating that of Mexican immigrants, but have the ambition level of ghetto blacks, a weird combination. They have suffered at the hands of European white settlers in the distant past who maligned them and negatively affected their futures. This is true. What is also true is that they, as a people, seem incapable of getting past the events of the past and rising to higher levels of education, industry, modernization, and society. These people are broken. Their rant against the white man is broken record that plays over and over without end. Most love to drive their Toyota trucks to the little beaches, fish, smoke pot, eat Poke' bowls (raw fish), drink, and let their half-naked children run around - instead of working a job. Businesses in Hilo come and go like the rain because no one in that town except tourists has any money. Everything at the grocery store is about $6 - bread, milk, cereal, cold cuts, bag of M&M's, etc. Gas is expensive. If you move to somewhere like Dallas or LA, there are communities of every ethnicity in which to immerse yourself. There is room for many kinds of people living many kinds of lives. In Hawaii, it's all about living as a Hawaiian. You don't bring your culture, customs, and traditions with you, you check them at the airport gate. From culture to politics, entertainment to education, Hawaii wants nothing to do with the rest of the United States. They are all about doing things their way, and if you don't agree with that ethos, you are made to feel inferior. There is an air of political correctness and entitlement which permeates everyday interactions with the locals. I could go on and on and on...

I moved back to the states after 3 months of Hawaiian life. I am so glad to be back in the states. What's funny is that before I left, I didn't care which state I was headed back to, I just wanted to get the hell out of Hawaii. If you think you want to live and work in Hawaii, you'd better visit there first before you take the plunge. Otherwise, you might end up wasting precious time and money before figuring out that you and your mainland friends are not welcome there.

Hi. I am a local resident in Hawaii and is very disgusted with your blog or whatever this thing is. You need to understand that Hawaii is a GREAT place! For all people. If what you say is how you really feel then you need to learn how to live life better. Its not only about the money or the places you live its how you manage to work with it. If you have a crappy job and house its not Hawaii's fault. Its yours, your complaining about the heat when its caused by GLOBAL WARMING! But if you were to go out there meet new people and find yourself a better job maybe in Waikiki then you would have probably have a better experience with life here in Hawaii. You wouldn't have been struggling to pay bills if you had pushed yourself to find a better job for yourself and better yet fiance. Hawaii is paradise, that's why tourist come to Hawaii to see the beautiful sights the NICE hotels and some tourist end up staying in Hawaii living in nice homes. FYI if it wasn't for foreigners invading our HOMES, killing our people, bringing diseases, and forcing our QUEEN to give up her thrown to enslave our people then MAYBE we wouldn't be so CORRUPTED. If your "people" had just left our peaceful islands alone then we would've had more cultural ways to live then we have now, But because our QUEEN had to give up her thrown we could not keep the culture as strong. Our culture was taken from us and we suffer from cultural trauma. It really is hard to show compassion to a race that did nothing but take from us and make us live the way they do. The Hawaiian race was very functional. We didn't need money, vehicles, stores or materialistic things. As long as we had our Ohana, we were happy. We lived off of the land and never had to worry about being hungry. Every other cultural is able to freely speak their language while ours was taken from us and we were forced to practice our culture incognito. I do apologize for the rudeness that you experienced but not all of us are rude or ignorant. Maybe if you learned a little bit about us and really understood us then you might change your mind. Well I sure hope you have a nice day and malama pono.

Hawaii is a great place? You must be joking. What is so great about it? The potholes everywhere? The steel plates all over the road due to the stupid and pointless railway project? The tiny parking spaces where you can't even open your car door all the way? Oh what about the expensive food, rent, and everything else? Seriously, what is so great about Hawaii? I swear I hear siren EVERYDAY at least three times a day. People here are terrible drivers not knowing how to merge and don't know who has the right of way. The traffic is worst in the nation behind LA, and one accident means getting stuck in the road for hours due to having no alternate routes. And how much SPAM and mac salad can people eat on this island? No wonder Polynesians lead in being diagnose with diabetes. Moreover, why do Hawaiians ONLY go to Vegas for vacation? If Hawaiians love gambling so much, why doesn't the state play the lottery to bring in some income for the island? Well, people here aren't the sharpest tool in the shed. No wonder Hawaii is ranked 50th in the education rankings.

For every rent you gotta pay and groceries you buy, the workplaces here pay peanuts to what you earn at mainland. Yet, the stinking UH football team with losing record still charges people $60 for a PPV. Yeah, it's free for any other college team. Talking about being greedy and ripping people off. Yeah, Hawaii is such a great place. I really cannot stand self-righteous local attitude where they think the island is better than the other 49 states when all they know is Las freaking Vegas. I have lived in three different continents and several different states and I honestly think Hawaiians (I mean the locals/Japanese/Filipino) are the most arrogant, self loving, and the least intelligent people I have ever interacted with. Oh no, you can't make fun of Hawaii because people here take it personally when mainlanders put the country first, as in America, and not their state. Hawaii, however, is the state before the country. With the Japanese running the state, with their tiny parking spaces and building infrastructure, Hawaii shouldn't be part of the USA. Just give it to the Japanese since they act like they own the place. How ironic. Japan bombed Pearl Harbor, yet, Hawaiians embraced the Japanese more than the Americans. Did I mention least intelligent? There is a reason why the rest of Asia hates Japan even till this day. Yet, the ignorant Hawaiians bow down before their Japanese masters.

shut up, you obviously don't know anything

Ive never been to Hawaii, I was born and raised in California which is extremely diverse. Ive read your views on Hawaii and im convinced of never visiting there but was shocked to here negative remarks about Asian people. They are the most intelligent, quiet, and avoid confrontation at all cost. Respect is what their culture is based around. I was on your side but hearing those hurtful opinions about the Japanese makes me wonder if your not mistaking lazy island hillbillies with a very charming and highly respected cultures in the world. The Japanese are very intelligent, every Japanese ive ever met is well educated and extremely easy to get along with. Their a bunch of quiet nerds! please don't confuse those island people with those straight A++ nerds from school its totally not fair. I wish I was Japanese, then maybe I could have passed calculus.

but Filipinos are arrogant I agree with that.

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I went to school 2 years in Hawaii, graduated and had a job there for 3 solid years. 3 solid years of hell. Working with locals, who were exclusive, and constantly trying to trip me up, no explaining things to me, not inviting me to their endless lunches, not speaking to me, turning co workers against me and being just plain mean and hateful stayed with me years later. They made my life hell and caused me to be written up several times. Never happened before or since. I am not even "haole" but of Hispanic origin. The Holy Asian/Pacific Island mentality is so small and hateful. I met a few people there, but mostly from the mainland who were cool. But man, locals are brutal. What I don't get is its the largest welfare state but they complain sooo much about the oppressive US Govt, I would never go back, I will visit the Caribeean :)

Why so serious? Don't people pick up and leave when they don't like where they're at? Move on and forget about it... So dramatic.

For starters, I have noticed that almost everyone "defending" Hawaii is under 21. You all are not adults yet. Your testicles have not fully descended and you don't have hair over your genitals or armpits. You have not experienced adult life. You do not know how hard it is to survive in Hawaii on a wage that's barely above the minimum wage AND make all your bill payments on time. One person said their parents did it: I'm sure they did, but that was when prices were lower. Things change. Still, most of you cannot legally drink, smoke or drive. This is an adult conversation. Act like an adult or go outside and surf/have sex/make babies/smoke weed/smoke ice/butcher the English language/complain about the US/white people and basically keep the stereotype alive.

With that being said, there are some nice things about Hawaii, but humans had very little to do with them. This is not a forum about the rights, but the wrongs about Hawaii. I am being realistic. People in Hawaii love to bury their heads in the sand and pretend a problem does not exist until it becomes such a problem that they MUST pay attention. The rail is a prime example. They had since 1970 to get it built but didn't start to near 2010. The cost rose dramatically as did the traffic.

I have lived in Hawaii and on the mainland and in most respects, the mainland is better hands down. Hawaii has it beat for scenic vistas, but that's about it. People here think they have a monopoly on friendliness. You all do not. Minnesota Nice and Southern Hospitality are both far better than "aloha". All "aloha" is (nowadays) is a word used to sell things. People here are very rude and inconsiderate. You all don't hold doors for each other, your punk kids won't move for pregnant or elderly people on the bus and they never say "please" or "thank you".

People here think the mainland is more violent. That's not true. You all think the mainland is more violent because people shoot each other while here on the 'aina, they fight. Guess what, if you fight someone and they fall and crack their head on concrete and then die, YOU WILL BE CHARGED WITH MURDER JUST AS IF YOU SHOT SOMEONE. Of course, given Hawaii's terrible public schools which always rate near the bottom with intellectual hubs such as Mississippi, Alabama, Arkansas and Washington DC, I can see how no one knows this. The worst inner city school on the mainland is still better than the average Hawaii school. And apparently, when building these schools in Hawaii, no one thought to install air conditioning so the kids could learn in their 30-student-per-teacher classes. I was absolutely shocked to see how dumb some of these high school seniors are. Most of these kids can't find New York on a map. Of course the reasoning is because they "don't need to know" or "won't ever go" which brings me to the absolute lack of ambition among the people. That's nothing to be proud of, guys. If you all have no ambition, why are you going to school in the first place? You all delude yourselves daily with this "Hawaii is the best" nonsense and this mentality of just being happy with what you've got. That's a slave mentality. Where are we, Alabama in 1834? Appreciate what you've got and try to do better.

The state government here is completely impotent and corrupt. They hardly bother to hide it now. Anyone who thought the US was bad when Bush was president ought to try eight years in Hawaii. Then you will see why they ought to be happy to be part of the United States. Your fellow Americans, brah, are holding this place together. Realize that if it was not for the American military, there would be virtually no economy here. Yes, you have tourism but do you know what happens to a place that depends on one single thing for money? Look at Detroit: when the auto industry left, the city went straight downhill. If there was no military in Hawaii and tourism stopped (which could easily happen), then where would you all be? Up the creek without a paddle! Hawaii has the triple whammy of being remote, not having resources and not investing in its future (poor education). You can look at the comments by the under 21 year olds here and see how bad the education is. Pidgin is a *dialect*, not a language. It has no place in public education (UH allows papers to be submitted in pidgin... 10 steps backwards, UH).

Local hypocrisy is also astounding. You all meet 20 bad mainlanders and assume that's how the entire mainland is. Judging 312 million (312,000,000) by 20. Again, your crappy educational system shows up. You all are not taught to reason. Maybe that's your crappy culture. Hawaiian culture, as in the culture of the people that were here before the whites showed up, maybe worth studying, but local culture is almost as ignorant as ghetto culture. You all are unaware of that fact that there is more than a city called Las Vegas on the North American continent. The world is moving towards a knowledge based economy and locals are still dragging their knuckles and trying to stay in the past (fighting the windpower windmills, fighting the rail, fighting democracy in favor of restoration of the monarchy, etc.). Many local men dominate and beat their women (inexcusable) and in fact, when presented with a difficult situation, the first thing most locals want to do is fight. How is that different from ghetto trash on the mainland going for a gun when presented with a different situation? It is not different! This ignorant ghetto mentality is passed down from generation to generation. And just like with poor people all over the world, they have kids when they are far too young to understand the mental, physical, emotion and financial responsibilities of having children. You have kids that are poor and ignorant having kids that grow up to be poor and ignorant. Pat yourself on the back, Hawaii.

Then there's the economics: the average wage in Hawaii hasn't changed in decades but the cost of living has shot up like a rocket. How can any working person afford a house that costs more than $500,000? Thirty and forty year mortgages? Is this a joke? The "American Dream" is impossible to earn in Hawaii unless you are rich.

And the best part is the racism of Hawaii. Yes there is racism in Hawaii and mostly it is directed at white people. That is obvious. What is not obvious is the intra-racial racism. In Hawaii, despite what people say, whites and Japanese are at the top. In fact, a child that is hapa-haole stands a good chance of living a good life in Hawaii. Go to Corporate Honolulu and look at what all the CEOs are. They are white, Japanese, Chinese or white-Japanese. No Filipinos, Samoans, or Hawaiians. The same applies to management, although you may see a black, Hispanic or Indian there, but only if they are from the mainland. Mainlanders have a MUCH BETTER work ethic than locals because mainlanders have to worried about getting fired. Locals are all related to each other and hire based on family and friends (corruption again) and not merit (because they are crappy workers and would never get hired if they to be hired on their performance). Anyway, the white-Japanese establishment sets the rules for society and that helps keep the non-Asians down. The non-Asians are too stupid to realize this and that Establishment is sure to pump out the "lucky you live Hawaii" propaganda. Lucky for THEM since they are ruling this corrupt totalitarian oligarchy. Take a good look at local television or print media (the limited amount that is available because locals don't read at all). All the people in the pictures are going to be lighter skin toned individuals. No descendant of Kamehameha would be in a modern Hawaii fashion magazine, that's for sure.

What's funny is that all these locals hate white people, but guess who didn't? The House of Kamehameha! That red, white and blue flag that is the state flag was chosen by Kamehameha I himself. His entire family were anglophiles. That's why the British flag is on the Hawaiian flag and a main street in Honolulu is "Beretania" which is the Hawaiian transliteration of "Britain" and almost all of the royal family after Kamehameha I had British first names. That rasta-colored flag was never an official Hawaiian flag. Learn your history. It also wasn't "peaceful" before Kamehameha became king. It was very violent as Polynesians are a warlike people. Again young locals, learn your history.

Obviously every local isn't like that, but the overwhelming majority are. Driving through Waianae is like driving through Compton. Local culture is lazy, arrogant, violent, corrupt, fearing change and poorly-educated. You have very little to take pride in. Aside from Obama, WHO LEFT AND NEVER CAME BACK, who from Hawaii has done anything of note to benefit humanity? Surfing and hula don't count, sorry. How does Hawaii top any other state? Education? No. Economy? No. Scientific output? No. Wealth? No. Resource extraction? No. Lowest crime? No. Low drug use? No. So what exactly tanigble thing do you do better than the mainland other than complain? Nothing. That's your culture. If you don't like it, do something to improve it -- something other than trying to fight someone.

This is a topic that really gets me fired up. My parents are from the mainland, met on Oahu, married on a military ba<x>se on the mainland, had me and moved back when I was 5 months old. Those ridiculous 5 months I spent as a newborn would prevent me from being a true "local". I was blond haired, blue eyed, and freckled. It is impossible for me to tan and my self loathing began around age 4 when my mom picked me up from hula lessons and I told her the girls had informed me I could not dance the hula because I didn't have brown skin and black hair. In preschool one of my clearest memories was a Hawaiian girl ripping me off my tricycle and yelling that I was a stupid hauoli. She would tell me to "go home". For years I couldn't understand what they were talking about? My house? Why would I go home? My parents put me in private school to protect me and give me a decent education since the public school system is terrible because the DOE is insanely corrupt as is the government. In elementary school I was called ghost because my skin was so white, hauoli. I was sensitive and would cry to my dad who felt terrible but there wasn't a lot he could do. I guess you could say there is bullying everywhere. The horrifying thing is that these racial slurs were thrown out with defiance and pride. They were taught this as extremely young children. Their parents had either taught them and/or said these things themselves. The locals, I won't call them Hawaiians because many aren't even Hawaiian, are more like the Southern White racist red necks than any other group I've encountered. They do not embrace education, they cling to the past and stifle any individuality their children may exhibit so they will be doomed to the same fate as their parents and never get out of the vicious cycle. I hated those children but of course now realize as a parent, that their parents took away their innocence and love for other children and fun, and taught them hate and loathing truly ba<x>sed on the color of my skin. They were not taught to be kind to others, they were taught to despise hauolis, not to play with hauolis. That is the crime and Hawaii, in my opinion, has only gotten worse. Two years ago I visited and had planned a month long vacation so I could visit family and friends. I was so homesick and planned it for months, saved up our money carefully. My daughter was 2 and I was almost 3 months pregnant. 2 days after arriving I miscarried and lost so much blood I almost needed a transfusion. I spent a night in the hospital and my husband flew out early since I could barely climb stairs due to loss of blood and therefore energy. I was extremely sad and stressed out since I had been staying with a family friend and wanted to be home. I just needed kindness and love. My family and friends were great. We decided to stay and try to enjoy ourselves. A couple days later we went to the north shore to watch a surf contest. Someone punched the lock out within 15 minutes of us being there and stole my iphone. A couple days later I went to China walls at Portlock to see an old place my dad took me as a little girl. My husband took my daughter down the path and I went back to double check that I had locked the car. As I climbed down to the cliffs a local girl started talking to me. I smiled and I asked her what she had said. Then she sarcastically started saying how lucky she was that I had come to the island and how she hoped I appreciated it and could she do anything to make my stay any better. I was so stunned and tired from walking so much I just stared for a few seconds and kept walking to my husband. He said after I passed she flicked me off and get friends started laughing. This was a grown woman, not a teenager. I always wish I'd told her, my baby just died, I just wanted some peace in one of my favorite places on this earth and you just **** on me and my memory. Do you feel good about that? What kind of person does that to a complete stranger? My daughter was playing with a little local boy at Costsco and i looked for his parents so i could tell them how great he was being with her. His mother wouldn't look at me and told him to be careful and led him away from her. On my last visit, ironically also at Costco, my friend drove around the parking lot with my then 2 kids:) so I could grab a few things quickly without bringing the kids in. I came out to the parking lot and my friend partially blocked a parking spot. A big giant moke in a gigantic white Ford truck honked at me while i tried to quickly throw my groceries in the trunk. I looked back at him and just had her move forward to get out of the way. He backed in forcing several cars to wait as he slowly maneuvered backwards, then rolled down his window and called me a dumb hauoli over his young daughter and wife. I was so furious i looked him in the eye and said What?! Then remembered i had a 3 year old and a baby in car. He called me a dumb hauoli again and with freckles flaming I'm sure, just left. This is so common in Hawaii now that I just expect it. I see no sign off it changing. If anything they feel empowered because they associate themselves with persecuted minorities like Black Americans when they act more like the red necks I saw in the South. Horrible drop out rates, high teenage pregnancy rates, welfare recipients, now homelessness. Willful and defiant ignorance. I love Hawaii and I hate it. I will never live there again and I wish I could get over it but it still gets me so angry. Once someone involved my child in it, everything changed. This year will be my last trip there for a long time. I love my friends that are still there. My Hawaiian teachers were beautiful and loving people,I had many great experiences but so much hate as well. The aloha spirit exists and many are great but so many are in terrible places and blame hauolis for everything when they need to educate themselves and clean up their government so opportunities exist for all. Stop living in the past and realize racism is racism is racism. It's always going to be wrong.

We despise you people because you disrupted our peace. Before any "outsiders" came to Hawaii everything was peaceful, however many settlers came and brought along diseases and unwanted pests into our community. That is why we don't want anyone from the mainland, simply because THEY think they're better and they're rude too and this post and all these hateful comments prove it. You people come to this island like fleas, that's why our island is so overpopulated. You people took everything from us that is why we share so much antipathy against you.

You are one of our states. We own you. So shut up and take it.

See what I mean? More ignorant local youth.

Hawaii wasn't going to stay hidden forever and you are very lucky that the English came first. Had the Japanese come first, they would have slaughtered every one alive. Look at their history. They have tried to kill every single one of their neighbors: Russia, China (repeatedly), Korea and The Philippines. That's why all their neighbors hate them in Asia. They would have slaughtered everyone here and no one would have know about "Hawaiians".

Everything was certainly not peaceful before that. Tribes were killing each other left and right. Even Kamehameha was brutally violent. Did you know that at the Battle of Nu'uanu Pali, he was shoving men, WOMEN AND CHILDREN off the pali to certain death? How is that peaceful?

No one from the mainland "took" anything from you. Learn your history. In 1959, you all decided to become a state -- a part of the United States of America. Mainlanders have just as much right to be here as you do on the mainland. In fact, if you look at the money, we Mainlanders are completely subsidizing (paying for) you.

Puke -- that's the Hawaiian word for "book". Spend some time with your face in some books instead of Facebook.

Japanese are hated all over Asia, yet loved in Hawaii. That goes to show the lack of education again. japan has done some very wicked, evil things and slaughtered thousands upon thousands of Chinese in China. Total invasion. Imagine what they would have done to Hawaii. you locals would not be speaking pidgin, you would be speaking Japanese.

Boo, hoo, hoo. Whitey was mean to our ancestors so let's blame them for every one of our problems now. How about locals try cleaning up their meth epidemic? Failing schools and high rate of illiteracy? Above average rate of domestic violence? Exploding rates of stds? And let's not forget the dependence on federal and state welfare! The reason you live in such a ghetto culture is because you have a ghetto mentality. And only YOU can change that.

Celestral, SHE had nothing to do with any of these so called "facts" that locals keep breeding to keep the hate alive. So get some education.

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What doesn't bother me:

I'm originally from Hawaii, born and raised. I lived there for the first 23 years of my life, however I have been away for over 30 years and only come back for funerals. Perhaps going home solely for the purpose of attending funerals is depressing enough, however it seems to me that each visit shows how much more of the islands have decayed. The problem is that the current generation does not have the industriousness of their parents and grandparents. Not only have they discontinued the old family businesses; they now live 3 or 4 generations to a house! No one wants to work any more. I would never start a business there. I could not find employees worth hiring! Everyone has a disproportionate sense of entitlement and is quick to feel slighted. There is so much crime, corruption, and backwardness it feels like a third-world country. You Hawaiians deserve each other!

My dad is in the military and we moved here... I agree... worst place on earth. The people here act like they are in charge of you. They act like they own you. They try to tell you to do things their way because the island is "theirs" Even though it's NOT. The government could plant a nuclear bomb if they wanted too. The Hawaiians think they are better than everyone else. If they didn't have the mainland and everything WE give them,, Hawaii would be nothing. They'd be BROKE. Plus, since Hawaii thinks they're their own little country everything has to be different. Getting your license wise, education wise, etc. Education is HORRIBLE. I learn nothing. The schools are like homeless shelters. Hawaii is such a burden on me. I'd never live here forever even if I had the best house on the island. I cannot wait to leave. I will gladly move back to a normal AMERICAN life.

Hawaii is also #8 for the worst education in the U.S. Proving they're illiterate, and Hawaii has very poor schools and education.

I totally agree. My wife went on a trip over there and was raped by three fat island monkey males. I have their names and where they work. See you all soon.

Doubt it. She probably willingly had sex with them, then told you a fake story. You shouldn't be on the "I hate Hawaii" page. You should be on the "I'm a cuckold" page.

I was extremely offended by this. You should not talk about us like this. I'm white and I have a happy life here! We are literate, and have fine lives. Save your rude stupid comments to yourself.

In Hawaii, the first thing we're taught is respect. The second is how Caucasian settlers came and held their queen captive while they overthrew the island. So if you're wondering why the locals take pride in where they come from it's because every time a snotty *** person like you comes they always want to change **** and can never be happy with just the breath of life, hence why the word "haole" means without breath.

If you look deep into the history it wasn't Hawaiians who founded Hawaii. So, this island doesn't belong to Hawaiians. Not even the totally different race who founded it. It's the governments island.

But we were the first people there soooo, you lose

You're clearly so rude and ignorant that you're just confirming everyone's points about the dumb locals. Why are you even on this site? So pathetic

That is, if you are Hawaiian. Most "locals" are Asian or some other pI race

yeah but we were probably here before all you white people

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I was offered a really awesome job on one of the islands as a Chiropractor last year. I am from Florida originally. When I got here, the owners wife felt threatened because she said I was "too pretty and too successful" to work with her husband. Crazy right? Well, after about a month my boss told me that his wife was divorcing him unless he got rid of me. So he asked me to leave. My boss was much older and extremely unattractive, and I felt like it was a horrible thing to happen to someone who didn't deserve it. Especially considering that I had just re-located here from Florida. As a Chiropractor I had an impossible time trying to find another associateship. With 8 years of college and the same student loan and education as a medical doctor, I was left totally screwed. The island I live on is small, and I contacted all of the other Chiropractors trying to get a job with them. As they ran single doctor practices, this was not possible. I have been here 8 months and I don't even have enough $ to move back. I had to forfeit my license in Florida to stay here and it is $600 to get it back. Since I was in school for 8 years I have no work history and I couldn't even find a job as a waitress. Plus, no one wanted to hire an out of work Chiropractor. I am borderline homeless, and would give anything to go home. Hawaii has been spoiled in my mind forever

It's technically not Hawaii's fault though. Like seriously, it's not the island's fault you got fired. And if you couldn't find a job as a waitress, go find another job, like work in a store. I think it's your fault that you are practically homeless cause you're not putting any effort in to finding a job.

This just proves that you're an idiot. It doesn't say anything bad about Hawaii though.

I have seen this happen again and again, locals looking to the mainland to find workers who actually want to work, and something really dum like this happens. If they would educate and train the local populate decent work ethic, this would have never happened in the first place. I feel so sorry for you. If you have not gotten out of this situation yet and are in a homeless shelter or near, and since you ARE an educated "attractive" woman you would be highly successful teaching in China, Japan or S. Korea. They are always looking for a 4 year bachelor any field teacher and they value "haole" faces If you want to be valued, respected, and have a fulfilling job I would ONe. Get out of the third world country you are in and Two: Find the fascinating fullfulling life to live outside of Hawaii, its such a dumpy rock. and I hope you sew the pants off the old fart, what a jerk.

Blame your hate for your experience on living in Hawaii on everyone and everything else.... If you did hate it so much why didn't you just slit your wrists like you said?? Some people love Hawaii and some people don't, chill out.

If Hawaiians hate white people then I absolutely LOVE Hawaiians. :)

Dummy, they'd hate you too. They barely love themselves - that's why there's a meth epidemic throughout HI!

Where the heck have you heard that there's a meth epidemic huh? Get your facts straight before you put it on the internet.

Have you ever been to Hawaii?? They have one of the worst meth problems in the country!!

Its the number one Meth state in the UNITED STATES and that's a Stat. I wouldn't live there for free.

Try checking your sources again. It's actually Missouri. And no one asked you to live here.

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Alright, so I grew up on Maui for 20 years - my family's from Japan - they moved when I was a year old. Father's from a military family, he's half Sicilian/Japanese, my mom's Korean. Don't even get me started on the racism they had to go through. After 20 years I lived on O'ahu for 4 years, and lived in Los Angeles for 7 years after that to work in the film industry, so I think I got a pretty good grasp on the contrast. First thing I'll say is there's truth in absolutely everything that everyone is saying here. I was teased for being mostly asian - Japanee I was called, while the kids made slant eyes with their hands, pulling their eyes back. But that's nothing the **** that white kids have to go through…tragic..even the teachers will subtly talk down on haole students when I was in high school. "what you ****** haole?!" - heard that everyday since ******* kindergarten. The amount of bullying is insane, and sadly, usually stems from the attitude of the local parents: many kids that bully (and this is true anywhere) are following the attitude-example set by their parents that usually smack the **** out of them. "eh boy, get me one bea' if you no like one false crack!" the overweight uncle says while his father says "what, you no hear uncle?! hurry up you little fucka!!" as they get smashed around a grill while they grill the some tako and opihi they caught/gathered with the foodland-bought pipikaula being shared in it's foam plate (yeah I really grew up there) Drugged out island hicks that survive off of welfare and bud-light? True, just like there's inbred hicks living in trailers right alongside the loving country grandma that'll cook you a fresh apple pie who's the most authentically nice person you've met besides having lived a life that most would describe as hellish? You get where I'm going with this right? This kind of mentality is everywhere, it just takes different forms, it's just more in your ******* face in a small town/island. I've seen confederate flags waved around in some outskirts of cali and oregon, how do you think I'd be treated if I just walked around in those places? **** I still get asked if I'm "from here"(America) for **** sake I speak PERFECT English and Pidgin…**** I can even talk with a damn Cockney accent with all the actors I've hung out with. I even had a voice-over agent send me Cambodian scripts to audition because she assumed being able to speak a bit of Japanese meant "speak a little bit of anything Asian". -this is one example where the term"dumb haole" is valid. If you're thinking "what's the difference between Cambodian and Japanese?" you fall into this category - for some reason or another, at least in Hawai'i, the local populace knows the damn difference, because they know that "Asian" does not mean everywhere in Asia…I mean Russia is Asia ffs. Anyway, Ignorance is everywhere, I have to say the KIND of ignorance is unique in the mainland US and Hawaii. In defense of people that hate hawaii - hey I get it; some locals are DUMB as ****, like HOLY **** HOW CAN YOU BE THAT STUPID?! And MEAN?! But wait, PEOPLE ARE LIKE THAT EVERYWHERE!! It's just that on an island or rural community, it's just more pronounced because you can't hide from it. City like LA, NYC (oh yeah, worked there for several months, you want rude mean people under the excuse of "hey at least they're not lying/plastic about it like L.A.!"), **** anywhere crowded, you have a few friends/groups you choose, and ignore everything else. Hard to do in a small chain of islands 3000 miles away from everything. Locals are pissed about what the whiteman did to the islands, understandable, yet wtf did Kamehameha do? Unite the islands? Yeah because everyone was ******* killing each other left and right, so he killed and ruled, just like every type of Kingdom-based society every-******* where when it was all Game-of-Thrones. Am I defending the "whiteman?" No, everybody's a damn pillaging, enslaving murderer somewhere down the line, ****** up as it is, we're all by-products of wars. Now, I do know for a fact that my friends and my brothers current friends just loved going around punching tourists out because there's nothing to do for them besides that…most of those kids are in jail now. But here - **** I lived in a ghetto part of Highland Park and got immune to gunfire, to the point where a drive-by with semi-autos happened 50 feet away from me and a friend having a talk outside and we didn't even BLINK. No, that's not a good thing. Local boys think you're tough in Hawai'i, we have authentically ****** up **** up here you don't see. Damn right MS-13: home invasions, tying up families, raping and killing them in front of the father before executing all of them. **** like that doesn't happen in Hawai'i..last time I checked anyway. So this post is getting long, I'm just saying - both sides can be right, people are awesome and suck everywhere. About island fever and the paradise setting - after driving 600 mile round trips to go take photos for fun out into ghost towns in Cali, WHY THE **** is going to Wailea to Lahaina "FAR"?! Oh, because it's like a quarter of the island, and 45 minutes is A LONG ****** DRIVE, brah….if you've never lived outside the islands. It's all relative. You know what I realized though - people in Hawai'i, many, are terrified of the mainland. If I could draw a map of the world from my childhood mind, I could name most countries and I'd label the continental USA "THERE BE DRAGONS..and crazy haoles". I discovered the latter to be true..but I've worked in film/tv in L.A. - almost everyone is ******* nuts..but you expect it. Paradise - yeah Hawai'i is stunning, but honestly I personally was most visually blown away by the redwood forests and coast of NorCal than anything I've seen in Hawai'i..the sheer span and falcons, vultures, etc, and as a fan of ghost towns - the abandoned mining towns here and places in don't get that in Hawai'i…at the same time, the water is ******* freezing and it's raining 80% of the time up there so ****. Anyway my point - **** comes with the territory, some people handle it better than others and take a place for what it is - not for everyone. Nowhere is. Especially Liberia - see with enough research, you can just never go to some places because you can tell it's not for you.

Great review!

You made some sense until you mentioned the "States". Hawaii is a state. You are referring to the mainland. BTW, I wouldn't consider living there as well.

Dummy, he meant ppl outside of the US relocating to "the States". Not everything is about the pathetic little island chain called Hawaii!


Blah, blah, blah, Kalena. I've heard all that HI history before. Old News. Again, none of it excuses the active racism shown by locals toward caucasians TODAY. And funny how I've never experienced racism from any other group while growing up in a very diverse part of the mainland. Was I somehow only "hateful" and "ignorant" to locals in HI but nowhere else. Btw, that's called sarcasm because that reasoning is as ridiculous as your posting. Finally, if you're only responding to the OP, why are you as a local trolling sites re why Hawaii sucks. I'm from NY and don't look for sites about why NY sucks. And guess what? If someone felt it did, that would be their opinion based on their personal experience - and they are entitled to it. Secure people recognize that. Way to go, OP!!

Obviously you are not educated as much as you believe you are in the Hawaiian Culture. yes, the way we speak may seem to be improper English, however it is called pidgeon and originated on the plantations, due to all the different ethnicities and language, pidgeon was a way to compile all of the languages and make one that everyone could use to communicate, yes it is primarily English because the people who ran the plantations were white, however it is apart of Hawaii's culture now. Also, yes there may be plenty of racist people over here, however it is not as severe as you make it out to be, I am sure if you were more respectful and open to the way of life in Hawaii, and not as hateful and ignorant, your experience and the people around you would have been more enjoyable. Lastly if you are going to complain about how we are so uneducated and speak so improper please ensure that you have no spelling or grammatical errors, I know you said not to mention it, however I find it rather hypocritical and contradictory.

you are a lolo you ***** kalena808. Never saw so many women that i thought were men in my entire life until hawaii. Big, momona *******. Damn, never saw a worst work force, more disgusting, smelly, lazy bunch of people in my life and I have worked all over the world. Hell, Iraqis work better than fat *** hawaiins. But that is ok, the nice part about hawaii is that boats are cheap so dropping bodies is easy. Sharks eat them and no evidence left behind. Three of your chimps raped my wife and one thing whites are good at is conquering....... i think it took us a DAY to conquer your ***** country. Can't wait to see the eyes of the three that I am coming for. This hoale doesn't run.

First off, do you feel better when you swear?

Believe me, I learned more HI history than I ever wanted to while living there. And what always got me was how so many uneducated locals acted as if HI is alone in the experience of being conquered and forced to change as a result. How about learning some general world history?! Then you'll know HI is not so unique. And to claim that locals - most of whom aren't even Hawaiian - have some right to be racist toward caucasians today is just so lame. Locals are prejudiced because like all prejudiced people, they're uneducated and unaccomplished and turn to racism/a distorted sense that they're superior to others to make themselves feel better about themselves. Btw, are you even local? And if so, why are you trolling a site dedicated to why HI sucks? So sad...

We learn about Hawaiian history because they want to teach us about our ancestors. Why do you think they teach people about mainland history? huh? And we don't need to be Hawaiian to be considered local. Look up to definition of local in the dictionary and get your facts straight. And wherever you're from, you're probably considered local too. Who are you to call people on Hawaii uneducated and unaccomplished? Have you heard of Bruno Mars, well he's from Hawaii and he's really famous. And our President is from Hawaii. Barack Obama wouldn't become President if he was uneducated!

Ha ha. You're posting just confirms the poor reasoning that comes from a poor education. Bruno Mars?! OK, he's a singer but not exactly known for his IQ. As for POTUS, he went to private schools and not the terrible public ones in HI. What's more, he was raised by his white grandparents and mother, not locals.

That's funny your explanation as what is local, as I know plenty of Caucasians born and raised in Hawaii yet never accepted as local. sad.

Try learning the history of Hawai'i. Do you know what the Americans did to it? They took the culture, religion and the land. Locals are that way because they know the history and perhaps they do take it a little far but I'm sure you would too if an entirely new country came a took over your home and then changed EVERYTHING about it. If they came and told you that you couldn't speak your language or dance or practice whatever religion you have.