I Hate Hawaii

The worst place I have ever lived. Never have I experienced a group of such self rightous people who expect others to be so beholden to them, yet claim the reason why they dislike "outsiders" is because they are arrogant. I find simply being kind and open is the way to go, always. Not here. If you are not local, meaning you have lived there forever, forget getting a decent (still crappy in comparison to what you can do elsewhere, not limited to the mainland) job. I think they wear living there for years as a badge of honor because it is sucks so much, it is an endurance contest. I have never been to a place where people introduce themselves by how long they have lived there, Really. Who cares. The longer you live in Hawaii, the crazier you become. I am an educated person who has held a professional job for some years, and decided to move out to Hawaii with my fiancee to start our new lives together. After much planning and saving, off we went to begin our future. I have lived and travelled all over the world, so I figured I could make it anywhere. This still holds true. I can make it anywhere. But damn did I hate Hawaii, and I wouldn't want to live there if it were free.

First, while I appreciate cultures in all shapes and styles, I will say the culture of Hawaii doesn't have a whole lot to capture my interest. I do not find the inability to spell or speak English (should it be the speakers primary language of course) acceptable by any means. And yes, I probably have some errors in here, but please, don't bother being trivial by pointing them out, you get the point. I do not find the local color charming by any means. To me, it is base.

Second, The weather claims to be so beautiful. Bull. It is blazing hot, monotonous, humid and no matter how many showers I took, I felt dirty. My fiancee and I always woke up in a pool of sweat and we couldn't even fall asleep in each others arms anymore because it was too damn hot. Why not run the AC you ask? Because our electric bill was 300 bucks a month and that is just running a couple of fans and really trying to conserve energy in our 900 dollar a month studio shithole. Of course my college degree not only did not matter but was basically frowned upon (what, she thinks she is better than us??), I found myself working the WORST job of my life. You have to work there YEARS just to be a waiter, and the waiters would not even talk to me because I was just so lowly. Seriously, to be shunned by waiters at a crappy job was just too much. Plus I busted my *** and made the worst money I have made since high school. Ughh. Just writing this gets me heated. I wouldn't feel so demeaned working hard at a low paying job if there was a sense of family, but there wasn't. I was a serf and treated as such. Bullshit I say. NEVER, not because I am better, but because I would never treat someone like that no matter what they were doing.

Third, Rock fever, man. I have to see more than just what is Hawaiin. I need a rest from it. A reprieve. Not happening. All Hawaii, all the time. It is enough to make me want to slit my wrists. I like museums, art is a vise to me, seeing shows, going to a reading, a concert, whatever. I need that stuff like I need water. If you just want to sit on a beach and talk about nothing all day while slaughtering the English language, Hawaii is for you. Not me. If anyone local reads this, all I can say is, it is truly your loss. I have dedicated my life to helping others who move to the States figure it out and get comfortable. It is my occupation. Perhaps this is why I am so sensitive to such an attitude coming from people who have no right to have one. Island hillbillys I call you. Get some education and then maybe I will think your point is valid. Otherwise, enjoy your crappy lives.
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I only had to live in Hawaii for 4 months to see how horrible it was and I quit my job and fled. I lived in Hau"ula on Oahu. All I can say is that the hiking was nice. Most locals trashed the place and threw their garbage to other properties out of laziness. I never did understand how people enjoyed being there. All this racist hatred I read about people getting offended for not like Hawaii is like... were local Hawaiians brain washed or something? I'm Native American and guess what, I HAVE NO EXCUSE TO BE RACIST TO WHITE PEOPLE. All people can do is take control over their own actions and be RESPONSIBLE FOR THEMSELVES. Blaming others is lame. Honestly, the brain washing is close to hitting North Korean levels... I swear reading these comments was like watching children find one little thing they could argue as to why it's okay to be uneducated and racist. I'd like to see what becomes of Hawaii in the next years because from what I see, they're destroying themselves.

i am sorry that you feel that you were treated poorly while staying in our home but i would like to say a few things about this post. Just because you encountered a few unruly people does not give you the right to stereotype all of the locals. I have never heard a person ever say that the reason we dislike outsiders id because we are arrogant. The reason we dislike outsiders is because they come to our home and treat it terribly and act superior to the locals. Some outsiders even take the time out of their sad lives to write articles bashing our people and home... you might know about that one. I have never ever heard one single person introduce themselves with how many years they've lived here unless asked to do so. I am not quite sure why you would move to Hawai'i based on what you've heard about "perfect weather" or why you would even move to somewhere based on a stereotype in the first place but that really unfortunate that you were disappointed with mother nature. I am befuddled with the fact that you think speaking pidgin (what you referred to as "the inability to spell or speak English") is a part of Hawaiian Culture... I understand that they don't teach these things on the mainland so i am just telling you (along with whoever else is reading this) pidgin or "moke" has absolutely nothing to do with Hawaiian culture and i urge you to do your research before bashing an entire culture and who knows? you might actually be really fascinated with our culture and lineage just as many others, especially Cooke, were. I would also like to point out that your statement about not liking our local color was extremely unnecessary and completely outrageous because if you bashed any other race that **** wouldn't fly. So i understand that you are upset but you should really think before you post. Also, i am not too sure what you are talking about in regards to Hawai'i not having anything other to do that go to the beach. If art is a vise to you then why did you not make an effort to go to any of the 20 of our art museums on the island? if you wanted to go to watch a play or go to a concert why didn't you go to see one at the Blaisdell? Bottom line is: Do not bash our home if you don't truly know anything about it. Since you seem to be completely clueless about anything that has to do with Hawaiian culture let me just tell you the actual reason we don't like outsiders. In January of 1893 your people came to our home and took everything from us. (under the instruction of William McKinley) Just as they did to just about EVERY other small nation who they saw as inferior. You took our land, our language, and our way of life and if this wasn't bad enough you still, to this day, treat our culture as inferior and don't acknowledge that you stole our way of life. So next time you want to bash and stereotype a home to an entire culture and lineage of people do your research and ask yourself why. I am not saying that it is your fault specifically for all this but your hateful words just add to the detriment that your people caused. If you are as good a person as you claim to be, i am terribly sorry that you had a bad experience here but continuing to live on in the rage and post hateful things about MY home is not okay.

The only thing the accursed Americans ever gave the Hawaiian people was canned foods that sapped their vitality and shortened their lifespans. In the meantime they helped themselves to the Hawaiians' lands and poisoned them with disease and self-hatred.

I think the worst thing that happened to the Hawaiian people was to become americans. The USA is absolutely the WORST colonial power of all time, worse than the UK, France, and Prussia. Every other country made a reasonably good effort to prepare their colonials for eventual independence. The USA has ****** up everything they touched. God curse and punish the USA!!!!!!!!

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I had to leave there after 3 1/2 years because as a happy and easygoing person, I saw the way people approached my attitude was changing me. I was losing my smile and was getting used to common courtesy being an exception and not a rule. Even the driving on the islands, which doesn't get enough due, is very rude. I hit my blinker on the H-1 to get into a lane and the person who was more than three car lengths behind me sped up to get in front of me and then switched into MY lane. Why couldn't he have just switched lanes while he was behind me? The kicker? He had a bumper sticker that said, "Slow down! This ain't the mainland!"

"Aloha" is a tourist catchphrase. If you're visiting, then you get the shaka with one hand while they clean out your pockets with the other. If you live there, then you get talked down to, lied to and cheated out of more than the law allows.

And xenophobia is a badge of honor on the islands with the "Defend Hawaii (from the mainlanders)!" and "Keep the Country Country! (Hawaii for the Hawaiians)" bumper stickers which are prevalent on many a car. The funny part? A good deal of these xenophobes are 3rd or 4th generation from East Asian countries.

If ever a place deserved the adage, "It's a nice place to visit, but I wouldn't want to live there!", it would be Hawaii.

good! hope you moved back to where you came from!!!!!1

Thanks for proving my point.

me supporting you and telling you to go home is proving your point? did you not say, "but i wouldn't want to live there"? no yea okay

Oh please...even Stevie Wonder could see what you're doing. You said it in the most venomous way possible with pride in be exclusionary.

Bigotry should not be worn like a badge of honor.

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Traffic, Vog, Racism/Discrimination, Overpopulated, Extremely Expensive, Isolated, Hot, and Small: This is Hawaii. Born and raised, I received my first college degree in Hawaii. As a hapa-haole (multiple ethnicity-5 total) I admit I was always made to feel out of place and never at home. I moved and became a professional getting my second degree in the south where I lived for over a decade and then came back. I married a military man and he loves Hawaii but would not call it home either. I am happy my children are getting a few years to experience the island and its culture, but after these few years even my children are ready to leave. The island itself is magical. I, myself, have done things here that others could only dream about and I'm doing my best to give my kids the same opportunities-swim with humpback whales, climb waterfalls, hike beautiful landscapes, surf exotic beaches, swim with amazing sea creatures, and experience the multicultural society and diversity that exists. But the truth is, there is no real peace here. There is no space, limited resources, and a long history of cross-cultural racism and discrimination that will never seem to end. There is so much competition that a bitter sadness looms and I'm very ready to experience something else. Yesterday, some locals dumped trash again (old vacuum cleaner and a bag of dirty diapers) on our sidewalk. My husband went out and picked it up as he's done on many occasions. My 9-year-old asked why people do that? My answer: It's Hawaii.

So Hawai'i has dumped trash on your sidewalk more than once??? wow! i bet it wasn't your neighbor. it probably wasn't even another person that lives in Hawai'i. I also bet it wasn't another ignorant haole either! yeah but no it was Hawai'i. you right you right

Typical. My point exactly.

typical. A salty haole who bashes a home for an entire culture for one persons ignorant actions!

First I would like to start of by saying that I am Hawaiian, as well as a few other descents (but I focus mostly on Hawaiian.) I have lived on the island of O'ahu my whole life, but my family is widespread across the island chain. I am very sad to read that you didn't feel at home at our state. I'm also sad to hear that the people you were working with treated you like scum. So in this response I just have a few points I would like to cover and hopefully get across to everyone.

1. Our Culture:
When I was younger, my Tutu and Grandpa (my great-grandparents) would gather all of my cousins and take us down to Bellows Beach and set up a campfire and tell us all of the stories that had been passed down through the generations. They would scare us with tales of the vicious mo'o (lizards) that controlled different parts of the islands. They would make us laugh with tales of the Menehune (little people in Hawaiian folklore, also, go and read up on them, they are very interesting.) They would also make us gasp in awe at the great adventures that the different gods and demigods would embark on. My favorite stories were the ones about the goddess's Pele (the fire goddess), Laka (the hula goddess), and Namakaokaha'i (the goddess of the sea.) Now speaking from the perspective of a hula dancer, hula is one of the most beautiful things out there. The ability to tell a story with your body and the words you sing is something that has always froze me in awe. I have been dancing Hula for 10 years now, ever since I was keiki (child.) I can promise you, if you know a local that is willing to invite you to one of their family dinners, by the time all of the food is put away, one of the kupuna (elder) is going to start telling stories that will give you chicken skin (goosebumps.) Also, I encourage you to search up Makahiki.

2. Our Intelligence.
I can agree that some locals here in Hawai'i Nei may seem uneducated, but in most cases they are just ignorant and arrogant. Our kupuna were very smart people. We learned to live off the land and create a social hierarchy. At the top were the Ali'i, the chiefs. Above the regular chiefs were the Mo'i, kind of like the kings. Even amongst the chiefs was a smaller social hierarchy. Next were the Kahu, the priests. They dealt with all of the spiritual matters and anything concerning rituals and pastimes that were to be observed. Below them were the Makaainana, or the working class. Mahiai (farmers), Lawaia (fishermen), and everyone else comprised this class. The makaainana were the biggest class in the social hierarchy. They were also the ones that fought for their chiefs during wartime. Below them, the smallest class in the hierarchy, were the Kauwa or the outcasts. Much like the Ali'i they were born into their positions. Anyway, many of the keiki here in Hawai'i are quite intelligent. We do the best we can for our keiki, but sadly here in Hawai'i, we don't have much to work with. Our children are constantly struggling with school because even Hawaiians face racism in their own home. I can't count on my hands the times I have been harassed by not only 'whites' but other ethnic groups because I would well run out of fingers. Sadly, people here in Hawai'i do harbor some dislike towards Haole's because of everything that has happened in the past, and because of everything that is happening today. Also, much like some other responses have said, pidgin is its own language. English is its base, but it is very similar to the sentence structure that is used in Hawaiian Language. I encourage you to search it up and learn more about it.

3. Anything else I feel should be discussed.
-We are a tropical island therefore it will be hot and humid. Since we are so close to the equator, its pretty much summer all year. Although, the windward side is much cooler and it rains a lot more over there. I would suggest either Kane'ohe or Kailua, those places are quite cool.
-Since our culture is based heavily around the aina (land, the Hawaiian sate of mind is, if you take care of the land, the land will take care of you. It is stated in our genealogy that we came from Haloa, the taro plant. Please go and search up our genealogy, and also, refrain from calling it stupid, lots of Hawaiians hold fast to the old stories (including me) and I find it very rude and unnecessary when people disregard my beliefs. Since we are a land based people, many of the activities that tourists are offered or will participate in, will be centered around the outdoors.
-Alo, because of overpriced living areas, more people are moving into Section 8 housing which is making everything very crowded. Everyone knows the cost of living in Hawai'i is pretty ridiculous, but because of new condos that are not affordable the cost of living in low-priced neighborhoods is slowly climbing.
-Lastly, I am so sorry that the locals made you feel so lowly. The way I was taught was to always be respectful and welcome everyone with open arms. Once, when I was maybe seven or eight, my papa and one of my older cousins and I were driving down to 7-11 to grab some drinks for my uncles that just finished a kanikapila (music session that is pretty common everywhere in Hawai'i) when we saw this man sitting on the side of the road. My papa stopped the truck and got out. He talked with the man for a little bit then opened the backseat door and ushered him inside. Now, I was raised that everyone is called 'aunty' and 'uncle' not matter if they were related to you or not. So when the man sat next to me I smiled at him and asked him, "How are you doing tonight uncle?"
He gave me this look of shock and replied with a 'fine' or something along the lines of that. Anyway, we brought him back to my grandparents house and my papa introduced him to everyone. My grandma immediately made him a plate full of everything from the food table. She sat him down and had my uncle crack him open a beer. All of my aunties and uncles included him in the conversations and got to know him a bit better. When the night was coming to a close, my papa drove him back to his home with a container full of my grandma's lomi-lomi salmon. I guess my point is, yes some of the locals will give you a hard time, but most of us here in Hawai'i are quite nice and do live the Aloha way.

I hope this was infroming and I also hope you have seen Hawai'i with new eyes.

I work in one of the worst parts of the US. Skid row. Los Angeles.I work for a charity (syringe exchange) so I see (and have been) pretty bad. And even the folks here are more welcoming than the f°cking Hawaiians. I meet people here that think it's paradise, but they obviously haven't spent any time there

I have been here few years going college, i started absolutely hate hawaii now . I enjoy the neighborhood i am in, but just most local people hate you for no reason. Driving here is a joke, no rules, stop there for letting 5-7 cars to come out of a parking lot is no reason, no rules, the local also think they are much superior and everything they do is right. yes i agree to choose here, but i urge people think twice before moving, here isnt like what you think!

Yes everyone please think very wisely before you move to our paradise!!! You won't like it and we won't like you so don't come and trash our land and clutter our home.

Thank you! I've been here 3 years and have been made to feel like scum. Skipped over jobs without an interview. They would rather hire an unqualified idiot than me. It's sucked my bank account dry and now I'm almost homeless because I can't find work. Plenty of jobs. Just not for me.

I dont know about you but with the lack of ambition in men here and the unfriendliness mistaken as aloha, I'm definitely having a bad time. I advise parents out there don't move your child here in the middle of high school. I had no friends, no one has "aloha", the curriculum is way behind and there's someone getting beat up every other day. I dread everyday here until I move, It may be the vacation destination but that it

Welcome to the everyday life of a black person living in America. Im glad you got a first hand look at what they experience daily from people like you. May you mature and gain empathy for others on your path.

You mean an ignorant black person in an educated white America. You might try white uneducated America (trailer trash), you would fit right in.

There are plenty of educated black people which whom I work with, who I'm sure don't have your problems.

Um, no, I don't think Supercat is referring exclusively to "ignorant" black people. What exactly do you mean by and to whom are you referring to exactly, when you say "ignorant"? Mind elaborating on that a little bit?

In the end, it was your choice. You chose Hawaii. Hawaii did not choose you. If you were not able to make the most of your choice or experience here, I would have to say the fault lies with you.

And THAT is the attitude that drove the OP to write about her experience. There is an exclusionary and almost incestual attitude on the islands to mainlanders who come to live there, but you play like it's THEIR fault when you treat them like garbage just because they don't look and/or talk like you.
And any society that proudly promotes a "Kill Haole Day" to their CHILDREN TO BULLY OTHER CHILDREN has no leverege to point fault at anyone not fitting into that society.

In response to some of your points

The "slaughtered English" as you call it is called pidgin. Pidgin is not English however, it really is its own language. When plantations were a melting pot of people from all over the world (ie China, Japan, Portugal etc) the inhabitants never had an efficient way of communicating with each other ergo pidgin was born. While pidgin may sound like broken English, it's actually a mixture of other languages with English as its base. They may borrow words, sentence structures, or full sentences from a different language. Take the word "hanabata" for example "hana" meaning nose is Japanese "bata" being a derivative of butter combines to make "hanabata" or nose booger. The reason why many locals speak pidgin is because most of us are decents of plantation workers and a lot of locals have mixed blood (I for example am Hawaiian, Chinese, Portuguese) and when your parents speak pidgin and their parents speak pidgin, guess what, you're more than likely going to speak pidgin. Many locals can speak and write proper English well, it's just that pidgin is used as casual talk. Pidgin is a representation of many locals heritage.

I'm sorry you found the humidity unpleasant, even I find it uncomfortable when come back to Hawaii after being in the mainlands dry heat. But is it really anyone's fault? I mean wouldn't that be expected since Hawaii is located between the Tropic of Cancer and the Tropic of Capricorn? And yes the cost of living does suck here, every local knows that. But when realtors start building condos that most people can't afford more people move to lower income neighborhoods which then drives up the cost of those places due to the high demand. It's an unfortunate result too many people in too little of a place. I'm sorry for your poor experience in work place however, I'm surprised that your degree was frowned upon (the "think she's better than us" isn't exclusive to Hawaii though), but I feel like that's more of an issue with your employer than it is with Hawaii.

Honestly, if your not a beach or outdoorsy person, Hawaii isn't for you. I agree that the club, concert, art scene isn't good here, but that's really a result of the fact the Hawaii is 2000 miles away and is an inconvenient trip for any artist, band, or museum exhibit. Locals understand that which is why when big name bands like U2, or the police show up the tickets sell out in minutes because things like those are a rarity here. Once again it's not really anyone's fault, it's just the way it is due to its geographical location.

I apologize on behalf anyone who has made your time in Hawaii unpleasent. But please don't generalize us as these fat, lazy, uneducated Hawaiians. If history is your thing, then try out hawaiian history from a Hawaiian perspective and maybe you'll understand why Hawaii is the way it is and maybe the next time you visit, you'll have a more enjoyable experience. Mahalo

Most "Hawaiians" have a white mother or father which is so funny...try asking a couple of them if one of their parents is a white. Hawaiians feel like if you have it they should too! Agreed a complete mental midget state!

I am a Native Hawaiian PhD Candidate so I have my education. I am also a Professor so I also provide education to those seeking it. I too have experienced similar feelings at certain jobs. Like every single culture out there, it is who you surround yourself with (and I apologize for ending the sentence with a preposition but I'm not writing a dissertation here so I assume you'll understand). I have lived here all of my life and I too have traveled the world. It is as beautiful and as ugly as anywhere else. We didn't ask to be painted as the tourist destination, as the place of beautiful blue skies, tiki torches (which is ethnically incorrect by the way), and Mai Tais (thank you very much Elvis). It is a beautiful place but it has the same amount of stress, heartache, ignorance, beauty, love, peace, hope, and everything else as every other geographical location out there. There is unfortunately a lot of discrimination out there going both ways but I never let it stop me. I used it as fuel to show others that Native Hawaiians are intelligent, loving, and open. Others may choose another method that is less successful. Either way, none of it is your fault and I truly am sorry for your experiences. Please don't fault Hawaii. I don't want to change your mind about my home but just as I would if you had been mistreated in my actual physical home, I would like to sincerely apologize for the hurt that you felt living here and thank you for thinking of it as a place worth relocating to (again sorry for the preposition). True Hawaiians extend love, acceptance, and aloha. Scarred and scared Hawaiians extend fear and insecurity. Either way deep down we are supposed to be raised to be strong, intelligent, hardworking, and above all RESPECTFUL. It is with nothing but humility and respect that I genuinely apologize that my home did not make you feel at home. Blessings and luck to you and your fiancee.

I do not understand most of these responses. We lived in Hawaii for several years, on Oahu. My husband was in the military, but I was able to find a decent job, I worked with both natives and locals to the islands. They were wonderful people. I am white/native American mix. Believe me I am more pale than brown/red skinned; nobody would know I am native American unless they asked. Nobody treated me in a way that made me feel any different than they are. I loved Hawaii, I cried when I left there. I respected their culture, their land, and their way of living. Mainlanders expect Hawaii to be like the rest of the mainland and it just isn't that way there. The Hawaiians never intended for it to be that way, this is why they resist the mainland take over. You have to understand and respect that to make it there. It was easy for me to understand where they were coming from, so instead of imposing my own way of living on them, I embraced theirs. It is a much more relaxed way of living. Before the American take over, they were able to fend for themselves, but the mainland civilization had created the Hawaiian economic deficit for their own people. They were content with living off the land and providing for one another. The introduction of stores, tourism, etc has destroyed their customs. How is this so hard to understand? Of course there are probably natives and locals alike that are not fond of Caucasians because of this, but to be honest, I never met one that treated me badly because I was white. We just visited again this past summer and it has changed, it is more populated than I remember, but the people have not. We had a wonderful vacation and reflected on some of the best memories of our lives in Oahu. I hope to be able to visit again and visit often. Hawaii and the people of Hawaii have my respect, it is such a culture shock for whites to be a minority somewhere and experience racism, but cover that with excuses as to where you lived previously with people of various ethnicities and "never experienced such racism". The difference is those people are used to living in the mainland as well, just like you, and they are not being asked to change their way of living to accommodate everyone else. Take a moment to see this from the Hawaiian's perspective and maybe you will understand their point.

They might have won the battle but we've won the war. They might taunt white people who visit the island but we got them by the balls that place is exploited to the max with mainland visitors. Are tax dollars pay for the islands welfare which gives us every right to march all over their once sacred paradise. And lets embrace the fact their uneducated, not ridicule them for being stupid and lazy, infact we should further encourage them totally forget about education and treat them like their animals. Its bad enough they know English, look what they've done with it, their using it against us and were getting mad at them for it? We should have never taught them that in the first place, the key to it all is to keep them below us and completely exploit their land and and just use them as savages we take pictures of for entertainment purposes. If they were educated like us they might cleverly find a way to take back control of the island. This would be devastating to our tourism industry. So lets not complain how stupid they are and keep encouraging their ways of life and terrible music so they'll keep acting as stupid savages that live under american law and their only purpose in life is to serve as a snapshot in a rich white persons photo album. Stop education their completely it will add more authetisity to someones vacation memories.

Wow. It's too bad that this discussion board doesn't require individuals posting to cite their sources because you are researching in the wrong location. Its like using Wikipedia as a resource in a doctoral dissertation. I am a PhD, I am a Native Hawaiian, and there are a lot of us. The fact that it is believed that we are ignorant savages says so much about the ignorance of others (just as I would be about another population that I don't understand although it really is none of my business to understand its simply my business to respect), I guess its not surprising. Thank you for continuing to inspire me to be better, to do more, and to empower others. We are here. We will always be here and I personally will always treat anyone and everyone that I am blessed to teach in my classroom or run into on the street with the utmost respect no matter the gender, race, religious preference, or sexual preference just like I've always done.

I've lived in many places throughout the continental United States, and seen our great country from many perspectives, my husband and I moved here as he is a retired navy officer and now he has started a new career with the government.
to many we seem "rich".......But I hate it here so much, I have never met so many stupid, inarticulate, bottom feeders in my life! My husband romanticized this place having been here as a child, but it is paradise lost...crowded, loud, chem trails everyday all day..obese disgusting people who refuse to assimilate as Americans...uneducated, happy, dumb and ignorant...sad. But I happen to know that The department homeland security is planning a mass sweep of illegals here and maybe they will walk into the ocean rather than go back to wherever-the-hell they escaped from.
I can't wait...talk about a purge!

Maybe you should have done your research before you moved to Hawaii. Then you would have known it is hot and humid here, its a tropical island!!! What did you expect! You would have also known that the cost of living in Hawaii is high, and that the jobs here generally do not pay well compared to the mainland. I will be the first to admit that we do have some prejudice against mainlanders here (if YOU were more educated then you'd probably understand why). But we will return respect when respect is shown. Something that you obviously have no idea about. You can't just come here, plant your flag in the ground and expect the local people to show you respect without earning it! We don't go around criticizing people for their local style of language, or calling people hillbillies. What it sounds like to me is that you came to a place where you were the minority for once and you couldn't handle it! You came to Hawaii to live, but you brought the attitude of a tourist who expects everything to be catered to them. YOU are the reason people who live in Hawaii have an attitude toward mainlanders. So enjoy your life wherever you are now, and know that we are living very happy lives, not crappy ones.

A Stanford educated local boy.

For a guy who's clearly impressed with his own IQ, you haven't come up w a very compelling argument. You admit to locals having some prejudice against mainlanders (let's be real. It's against "whitey") and seem to suggest that it's warranted. Why? Because HI was "stolen" GENERATIONS ago? That makes local's prejudice/hostility/rudeness toward Caucasians, who had nothing to do w any takeover, TODAY justified? Come on! Many locals are just prejudiced because like most prejudiced people, they're ignorant (worst public school ranking in the country/1 in 6 are illiterate) and unaccomplished (huge welfare dependence and meth epidemic) and only feel better about themselves when bullying/putting others down. If you truly loved HI, you'd speak out against the racist locals and encourage them to take responsibility for fixing their own ghetto culture with above average rates of illiteracy, domestic violence, substance abuse and welfare dependence. Oh and asking yourself why you're trolling a blog dedicated to people who hate/have had negative experiences in HI might be a good start.

Aloha it's obvious that you haven't spent any real time in our home. I agree current Hawai'i has a problem with welfare, meth addiction and homelessness. But had you lived here 30, 40, 50 years ago all these issues were non existent or referred to as "mainland issues". I believe the poster before your post was talking about how her husband had romanticized his childhood in Oahu. I truely doubt he did. Life was so much different on Oahu back then. We left our doors unlocked and left our keiki to play in the sandbox in Ala Moana while we shopped not being concerned about anything. Back then mainland on Oahu was a few McDonald's restaurant s and Sears, JC Pennys. Everything was pretty much locally owned and life here was so different from the mainland that it in itself was population control. Who remembers renting condos for 200-400 mth in Honolulu? The point is today's Honolulu looks and acts like any mainland city. Everything pretty much local has been replaced with high end outside businesses and the culture has been effectted. When's last time someone heard real heavy pidgin english in Honolulu? These changes are caused mostly from outside influences, big money and tourism. That's the real resentment that locals have against outsiders. I can only speak for myself. But I would rather go back and live in the time in oahu where I could enjoy my Ohana, enjoy the laidback slower paced life. Where local food and ethnic everything dominatted life on the islands and things were not so expensive vs today chasing the Jones to keep up and to afford our island home, being stuck in traffic for hrs a day, side stepping the addicts and homeless. Giving up a way of life so others can get rich.

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I'm originally from TN but had been living in FL for some time. I work in the aerospace industry. i'm 37, white, male, single, educated and skilled. I took a job at Hilo Int'l Airport on the big island about 3 1/2 months ago. The lady that hired me was desperate to fill a position at the company, one which I was qualified for. I thought moving to Hawaii to live and work sounded like an adventure. I hadn't been there before, but I had traveled much of the US through work and I had no reason to think that I wasn't capable of adapting to the local culture - Dear God, was I wrong...

The first thing to know about "native" people living in Hawaii is that, by and large, they're not Hawaiian. They're mostly a mix of Samoan, Polynesian, Japanese, Philipino, Chinese, Korean, and other Pacific Island ethnicities. There are ethnic Hawaiians living on Hawaii, but they are pretty rare, and most have intermixed with these other races. What I found so ironic during my time there was that the people there don't speak Hawaiian at all. I listened to KAPA radio which plays music sung mostly in Hawaiian, which I really like. I asked a co-worker who is a local what some of the lyrics meant. He had no idea. No one else had any idea, either.

In a nutshell, my experience in Hawaii was not a good one. The examples of racial prejudice against immigrants from the mainland, especially whites, are true. I know, I'm white and I dealt with it every day. Sometimes, it was subtle, sometimes it was overt. For someone from the lower 48 who needs a frame of reference to compare the culture of native Hawaiians with, I would say the black culture from any major metro city in America will come close. They seem to have the family values approximating that of Mexican immigrants, but have the ambition level of ghetto blacks, a weird combination. They have suffered at the hands of European white settlers in the distant past who maligned them and negatively affected their futures. This is true. What is also true is that they, as a people, seem incapable of getting past the events of the past and rising to higher levels of education, industry, modernization, and society. These people are broken. Their rant against the white man is broken record that plays over and over without end. Most love to drive their Toyota trucks to the little beaches, fish, smoke pot, eat Poke' bowls (raw fish), drink, and let their half-naked children run around - instead of working a job. Businesses in Hilo come and go like the rain because no one in that town except tourists has any money. Everything at the grocery store is about $6 - bread, milk, cereal, cold cuts, bag of M&M's, etc. Gas is expensive. If you move to somewhere like Dallas or LA, there are communities of every ethnicity in which to immerse yourself. There is room for many kinds of people living many kinds of lives. In Hawaii, it's all about living as a Hawaiian. You don't bring your culture, customs, and traditions with you, you check them at the airport gate. From culture to politics, entertainment to education, Hawaii wants nothing to do with the rest of the United States. They are all about doing things their way, and if you don't agree with that ethos, you are made to feel inferior. There is an air of political correctness and entitlement which permeates everyday interactions with the locals. I could go on and on and on...

I moved back to the states after 3 months of Hawaiian life. I am so glad to be back in the states. What's funny is that before I left, I didn't care which state I was headed back to, I just wanted to get the hell out of Hawaii. If you think you want to live and work in Hawaii, you'd better visit there first before you take the plunge. Otherwise, you might end up wasting precious time and money before figuring out that you and your mainland friends are not welcome there.

you said people who are local to Hawaii are uneducated ? well, "philipino" is spelt like Filipino. and the reason why the gas and groceries are expensive her is because they are shipped from the mainland to here. and the stores raise the price to make a profit. so many people know how to speak Hawaiian. how many people did you ask to translate the lyrics? probably 5 people out of the thousands of people that live here. also, you don't know if people who "drive their toyotas on the beach, eat poke bowls, fish etc. " have jobs they could be on a off day

Hi. I am a local resident in Hawaii and is very disgusted with your blog or whatever this thing is. You need to understand that Hawaii is a GREAT place! For all people. If what you say is how you really feel then you need to learn how to live life better. Its not only about the money or the places you live its how you manage to work with it. If you have a crappy job and house its not Hawaii's fault. Its yours, your complaining about the heat when its caused by GLOBAL WARMING! But if you were to go out there meet new people and find yourself a better job maybe in Waikiki then you would have probably have a better experience with life here in Hawaii. You wouldn't have been struggling to pay bills if you had pushed yourself to find a better job for yourself and better yet fiance. Hawaii is paradise, that's why tourist come to Hawaii to see the beautiful sights the NICE hotels and some tourist end up staying in Hawaii living in nice homes. FYI if it wasn't for foreigners invading our HOMES, killing our people, bringing diseases, and forcing our QUEEN to give up her thrown to enslave our people then MAYBE we wouldn't be so CORRUPTED. If your "people" had just left our peaceful islands alone then we would've had more cultural ways to live then we have now, But because our QUEEN had to give up her thrown we could not keep the culture as strong. Our culture was taken from us and we suffer from cultural trauma. It really is hard to show compassion to a race that did nothing but take from us and make us live the way they do. The Hawaiian race was very functional. We didn't need money, vehicles, stores or materialistic things. As long as we had our Ohana, we were happy. We lived off of the land and never had to worry about being hungry. Every other cultural is able to freely speak their language while ours was taken from us and we were forced to practice our culture incognito. I do apologize for the rudeness that you experienced but not all of us are rude or ignorant. Maybe if you learned a little bit about us and really understood us then you might change your mind. Well I sure hope you have a nice day and malama pono.

Hawaii is a great place? You must be joking. What is so great about it? The potholes everywhere? The steel plates all over the road due to the stupid and pointless railway project? The tiny parking spaces where you can't even open your car door all the way? Oh what about the expensive food, rent, and everything else? Seriously, what is so great about Hawaii? I swear I hear siren EVERYDAY at least three times a day. People here are terrible drivers not knowing how to merge and don't know who has the right of way. The traffic is worst in the nation behind LA, and one accident means getting stuck in the road for hours due to having no alternate routes. And how much SPAM and mac salad can people eat on this island? No wonder Polynesians lead in being diagnose with diabetes. Moreover, why do Hawaiians ONLY go to Vegas for vacation? If Hawaiians love gambling so much, why doesn't the state play the lottery to bring in some income for the island? Well, people here aren't the sharpest tool in the shed. No wonder Hawaii is ranked 50th in the education rankings.

For every rent you gotta pay and groceries you buy, the workplaces here pay peanuts to what you earn at mainland. Yet, the stinking UH football team with losing record still charges people $60 for a PPV. Yeah, it's free for any other college team. Talking about being greedy and ripping people off. Yeah, Hawaii is such a great place. I really cannot stand self-righteous local attitude where they think the island is better than the other 49 states when all they know is Las freaking Vegas. I have lived in three different continents and several different states and I honestly think Hawaiians (I mean the locals/Japanese/Filipino) are the most arrogant, self loving, and the least intelligent people I have ever interacted with. Oh no, you can't make fun of Hawaii because people here take it personally when mainlanders put the country first, as in America, and not their state. Hawaii, however, is the state before the country. With the Japanese running the state, with their tiny parking spaces and building infrastructure, Hawaii shouldn't be part of the USA. Just give it to the Japanese since they act like they own the place. How ironic. Japan bombed Pearl Harbor, yet, Hawaiians embraced the Japanese more than the Americans. Did I mention least intelligent? There is a reason why the rest of Asia hates Japan even till this day. Yet, the ignorant Hawaiians bow down before their Japanese masters.

shut up, you obviously don't know anything

Yeah and how much EBT and assistance are YOU getting?!!!!

Ive never been to Hawaii, I was born and raised in California which is extremely diverse. Ive read your views on Hawaii and im convinced of never visiting there but was shocked to here negative remarks about Asian people. They are the most intelligent, quiet, and avoid confrontation at all cost. Respect is what their culture is based around. I was on your side but hearing those hurtful opinions about the Japanese makes me wonder if your not mistaking lazy island hillbillies with a very charming and highly respected cultures in the world. The Japanese are very intelligent, every Japanese ive ever met is well educated and extremely easy to get along with. Their a bunch of quiet nerds! please don't confuse those island people with those straight A++ nerds from school its totally not fair. I wish I was Japanese, then maybe I could have passed calculus.

but Filipinos are arrogant I agree with that.

I've been here 3 years and agree. I've spent my savings trying to get a foothold. Jobs go to ignorant and unskilled. Food is terrible. I'm about to be homeless because I've run out of money. Top in my field on the mainland, I can't find a permanent job here that pays enough to just "get by". 60% are on some form of assistance. Now I'm applying for food stamps ebt. Ugh. I'm moving back when if ever I can raise the money. **** this corrupt state and the ignorance

Applying for food stamp! You are becoming more and more Hawaiian by the day. Once you apply for full on welfare then you will be a true Hawaiian.

don't you think a lot of states on the mainland has potholes? there's potholes in every single state somewhere. the rail isn't pointless, if it was the government wouldn't have agreed to do it. you should look up the reason why Hawaii is building a rail. are you fuckingn kidding me right now "Hawaiians ONLY go to Las Vegas for vacation?" well, that's totally not true. dayum get your facts straight. there's 48 other states that people from Hawaii can vacation to (not including Hawaii and Las Vegas). you should really do your research before you post something. because Hawaii isn't actually the lowest ranked in education. it's actually between north/South Dakota, kansas, Nebraska, oaklahoma etc (according to: http://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/articles/2015/05/11/map-top-performing-states-in-the-best-high-schools-rankings )

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I went to school 2 years in Hawaii, graduated and had a job there for 3 solid years. 3 solid years of hell. Working with locals, who were exclusive, and constantly trying to trip me up, no explaining things to me, not inviting me to their endless lunches, not speaking to me, turning co workers against me and being just plain mean and hateful stayed with me years later. They made my life hell and caused me to be written up several times. Never happened before or since. I am not even "haole" but of Hispanic origin. The Holy Asian/Pacific Island mentality is so small and hateful. I met a few people there, but mostly from the mainland who were cool. But man, locals are brutal. What I don't get is its the largest welfare state but they complain sooo much about the oppressive US Govt, I would never go back, I will visit the Caribeean :)

You nailed it!

Why so serious? Don't people pick up and leave when they don't like where they're at? Move on and forget about it... So dramatic.

For starters, I have noticed that almost everyone "defending" Hawaii is under 21. You all are not adults yet. Your testicles have not fully descended and you don't have hair over your genitals or armpits. You have not experienced adult life. You do not know how hard it is to survive in Hawaii on a wage that's barely above the minimum wage AND make all your bill payments on time. One person said their parents did it: I'm sure they did, but that was when prices were lower. Things change. Still, most of you cannot legally drink, smoke or drive. This is an adult conversation. Act like an adult or go outside and surf/have sex/make babies/smoke weed/smoke ice/butcher the English language/complain about the US/white people and basically keep the stereotype alive.

With that being said, there are some nice things about Hawaii, but humans had very little to do with them. This is not a forum about the rights, but the wrongs about Hawaii. I am being realistic. People in Hawaii love to bury their heads in the sand and pretend a problem does not exist until it becomes such a problem that they MUST pay attention. The rail is a prime example. They had since 1970 to get it built but didn't start to near 2010. The cost rose dramatically as did the traffic.

I have lived in Hawaii and on the mainland and in most respects, the mainland is better hands down. Hawaii has it beat for scenic vistas, but that's about it. People here think they have a monopoly on friendliness. You all do not. Minnesota Nice and Southern Hospitality are both far better than "aloha". All "aloha" is (nowadays) is a word used to sell things. People here are very rude and inconsiderate. You all don't hold doors for each other, your punk kids won't move for pregnant or elderly people on the bus and they never say "please" or "thank you".

People here think the mainland is more violent. That's not true. You all think the mainland is more violent because people shoot each other while here on the 'aina, they fight. Guess what, if you fight someone and they fall and crack their head on concrete and then die, YOU WILL BE CHARGED WITH MURDER JUST AS IF YOU SHOT SOMEONE. Of course, given Hawaii's terrible public schools which always rate near the bottom with intellectual hubs such as Mississippi, Alabama, Arkansas and Washington DC, I can see how no one knows this. The worst inner city school on the mainland is still better than the average Hawaii school. And apparently, when building these schools in Hawaii, no one thought to install air conditioning so the kids could learn in their 30-student-per-teacher classes. I was absolutely shocked to see how dumb some of these high school seniors are. Most of these kids can't find New York on a map. Of course the reasoning is because they "don't need to know" or "won't ever go" which brings me to the absolute lack of ambition among the people. That's nothing to be proud of, guys. If you all have no ambition, why are you going to school in the first place? You all delude yourselves daily with this "Hawaii is the best" nonsense and this mentality of just being happy with what you've got. That's a slave mentality. Where are we, Alabama in 1834? Appreciate what you've got and try to do better.

The state government here is completely impotent and corrupt. They hardly bother to hide it now. Anyone who thought the US was bad when Bush was president ought to try eight years in Hawaii. Then you will see why they ought to be happy to be part of the United States. Your fellow Americans, brah, are holding this place together. Realize that if it was not for the American military, there would be virtually no economy here. Yes, you have tourism but do you know what happens to a place that depends on one single thing for money? Look at Detroit: when the auto industry left, the city went straight downhill. If there was no military in Hawaii and tourism stopped (which could easily happen), then where would you all be? Up the creek without a paddle! Hawaii has the triple whammy of being remote, not having resources and not investing in its future (poor education). You can look at the comments by the under 21 year olds here and see how bad the education is. Pidgin is a *dialect*, not a language. It has no place in public education (UH allows papers to be submitted in pidgin... 10 steps backwards, UH).

Local hypocrisy is also astounding. You all meet 20 bad mainlanders and assume that's how the entire mainland is. Judging 312 million (312,000,000) by 20. Again, your crappy educational system shows up. You all are not taught to reason. Maybe that's your crappy culture. Hawaiian culture, as in the culture of the people that were here before the whites showed up, maybe worth studying, but local culture is almost as ignorant as ghetto culture. You all are unaware of that fact that there is more than a city called Las Vegas on the North American continent. The world is moving towards a knowledge based economy and locals are still dragging their knuckles and trying to stay in the past (fighting the windpower windmills, fighting the rail, fighting democracy in favor of restoration of the monarchy, etc.). Many local men dominate and beat their women (inexcusable) and in fact, when presented with a difficult situation, the first thing most locals want to do is fight. How is that different from ghetto trash on the mainland going for a gun when presented with a different situation? It is not different! This ignorant ghetto mentality is passed down from generation to generation. And just like with poor people all over the world, they have kids when they are far too young to understand the mental, physical, emotion and financial responsibilities of having children. You have kids that are poor and ignorant having kids that grow up to be poor and ignorant. Pat yourself on the back, Hawaii.

Then there's the economics: the average wage in Hawaii hasn't changed in decades but the cost of living has shot up like a rocket. How can any working person afford a house that costs more than $500,000? Thirty and forty year mortgages? Is this a joke? The "American Dream" is impossible to earn in Hawaii unless you are rich.

And the best part is the racism of Hawaii. Yes there is racism in Hawaii and mostly it is directed at white people. That is obvious. What is not obvious is the intra-racial racism. In Hawaii, despite what people say, whites and Japanese are at the top. In fact, a child that is hapa-haole stands a good chance of living a good life in Hawaii. Go to Corporate Honolulu and look at what all the CEOs are. They are white, Japanese, Chinese or white-Japanese. No Filipinos, Samoans, or Hawaiians. The same applies to management, although you may see a black, Hispanic or Indian there, but only if they are from the mainland. Mainlanders have a MUCH BETTER work ethic than locals because mainlanders have to worried about getting fired. Locals are all related to each other and hire based on family and friends (corruption again) and not merit (because they are crappy workers and would never get hired if they to be hired on their performance). Anyway, the white-Japanese establishment sets the rules for society and that helps keep the non-Asians down. The non-Asians are too stupid to realize this and that Establishment is sure to pump out the "lucky you live Hawaii" propaganda. Lucky for THEM since they are ruling this corrupt totalitarian oligarchy. Take a good look at local television or print media (the limited amount that is available because locals don't read at all). All the people in the pictures are going to be lighter skin toned individuals. No descendant of Kamehameha would be in a modern Hawaii fashion magazine, that's for sure.

What's funny is that all these locals hate white people, but guess who didn't? The House of Kamehameha! That red, white and blue flag that is the state flag was chosen by Kamehameha I himself. His entire family were anglophiles. That's why the British flag is on the Hawaiian flag and a main street in Honolulu is "Beretania" which is the Hawaiian transliteration of "Britain" and almost all of the royal family after Kamehameha I had British first names. That rasta-colored flag was never an official Hawaiian flag. Learn your history. It also wasn't "peaceful" before Kamehameha became king. It was very violent as Polynesians are a warlike people. Again young locals, learn your history.

Obviously every local isn't like that, but the overwhelming majority are. Driving through Waianae is like driving through Compton. Local culture is lazy, arrogant, violent, corrupt, fearing change and poorly-educated. You have very little to take pride in. Aside from Obama, WHO LEFT AND NEVER CAME BACK, who from Hawaii has done anything of note to benefit humanity? Surfing and hula don't count, sorry. How does Hawaii top any other state? Education? No. Economy? No. Scientific output? No. Wealth? No. Resource extraction? No. Lowest crime? No. Low drug use? No. So what exactly tanigble thing do you do better than the mainland other than complain? Nothing. That's your culture. If you don't like it, do something to improve it -- something other than trying to fight someone.

You nailed it. A living hell! It's sucked me dry and can't wait to leave.

Obama has "benefited humanity"? You are delusional.

i am an asian, not from here, and local hate me as well, i gotta agree with you, my few years of school here make me absolutely hate here.
can i just add this , people just cant drive here, drive like there isnt any rule of law......

you are considered an adult at the age of 18 by the way. we do not butcher the English language. it's called pidgin. which is practically its own language which was created so that plantation workers from different countries could communicate with each other so that they could get work done. I think that's smart how they were able to combine different languages into a new one.

You are a prime illustration of what I am talking about. First, you aren't even 21 which is the drinking age which makes you a full adult; 18 enters you into the majority; what's wrong brah, you like go Sandys instead of class? Ho wot u faka, u like scrap me now?

Next, pidgin is a dialect of English and not a language. Pidgin is a pidgin of English. Local pidgin is exactly what its name says it is: a simplified version of a language used for communication. You actually are arguing against yourself, but hey, you were educated in Hawaii so what else should I expect? If Local Pidgin grew more over time, then it would become a *creole* and finally a real language. When it becomes a creole language, then it will be the language of primary instruction. At last check, the official languages of Hawaii are still Hawaiian (which no one speaks because Hawaiians are lazy and give the excuse that the language was "banned" and it was not -- it was forbidden by law to be taught but people could still use it at home) and English. When pidgin becomes a creole, then it will be closer to being a real language. Stop justifying you all's intellectual laziness.

And Hawaii isn't the only place where people from different areas who could not understand each other created a language. Haitian Kreyol is based on numerous African languages (especially Fon) and French. Black American English is based on the African languages and English; it's also where we get words like "goober" (for peanut) and "jumbo" from. Singapore has a similar language as well based on Chinese, Malay and other languages. Sorry, you all are not that unique.

Vs what? White male dominated mainland society that has more people per capita in prison then all the counties in the world including CHINA. Who have the most addicts then any other country. Who have the highest wealth inequality among its population then anywhere else. But Lets get real here ok. All one has to do is educate themselves in real Hawai'i history to understand why things are the way they are now. I think of things like the overthrow of the Hawaiian kingdom by rich American plantation owners and then the outlawing of the Hawaiian language, religion and dance. Then events like the plantation years were white plantation owners basicly made slaves of migrating workers to get rich. Then during WW2 white America in Hawai'i took thousands of Asian Americans and ******** them of property, freedoms and detained them on sand island. Most if not all never got their homes or businesses back. Then I remember reading about the massie trial where a rich white mainland community in Oahu decided to take law into its own hands and Hung several native local boys who were found innocent in a court of law from a false allegation of rape from a haole wahine. These are just some of few events in Hawai'i history that has caused things to be the way they are. I remember some of my tutus generation on Hawai'i who were ashamed to be anything but white. Where did that come from? See we never hear about these things when we have talkstories of racism or how locals treat mainlanders badly.

My thoughts exactly, a lot of these people who live on these Islands are just thugs, total criminals. I really can't stand listening to these people defend themselves.

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This is a topic that really gets me fired up. My parents are from the mainland, met on Oahu, married on a military ba<x>se on the mainland, had me and moved back when I was 5 months old. Those ridiculous 5 months I spent as a newborn would prevent me from being a true "local". I was blond haired, blue eyed, and freckled. It is impossible for me to tan and my self loathing began around age 4 when my mom picked me up from hula lessons and I told her the girls had informed me I could not dance the hula because I didn't have brown skin and black hair. In preschool one of my clearest memories was a Hawaiian girl ripping me off my tricycle and yelling that I was a stupid hauoli. She would tell me to "go home". For years I couldn't understand what they were talking about? My house? Why would I go home? My parents put me in private school to protect me and give me a decent education since the public school system is terrible because the DOE is insanely corrupt as is the government. In elementary school I was called ghost because my skin was so white, hauoli. I was sensitive and would cry to my dad who felt terrible but there wasn't a lot he could do. I guess you could say there is bullying everywhere. The horrifying thing is that these racial slurs were thrown out with defiance and pride. They were taught this as extremely young children. Their parents had either taught them and/or said these things themselves. The locals, I won't call them Hawaiians because many aren't even Hawaiian, are more like the Southern White racist red necks than any other group I've encountered. They do not embrace education, they cling to the past and stifle any individuality their children may exhibit so they will be doomed to the same fate as their parents and never get out of the vicious cycle. I hated those children but of course now realize as a parent, that their parents took away their innocence and love for other children and fun, and taught them hate and loathing truly ba<x>sed on the color of my skin. They were not taught to be kind to others, they were taught to despise hauolis, not to play with hauolis. That is the crime and Hawaii, in my opinion, has only gotten worse. Two years ago I visited and had planned a month long vacation so I could visit family and friends. I was so homesick and planned it for months, saved up our money carefully. My daughter was 2 and I was almost 3 months pregnant. 2 days after arriving I miscarried and lost so much blood I almost needed a transfusion. I spent a night in the hospital and my husband flew out early since I could barely climb stairs due to loss of blood and therefore energy. I was extremely sad and stressed out since I had been staying with a family friend and wanted to be home. I just needed kindness and love. My family and friends were great. We decided to stay and try to enjoy ourselves. A couple days later we went to the north shore to watch a surf contest. Someone punched the lock out within 15 minutes of us being there and stole my iphone. A couple days later I went to China walls at Portlock to see an old place my dad took me as a little girl. My husband took my daughter down the path and I went back to double check that I had locked the car. As I climbed down to the cliffs a local girl started talking to me. I smiled and I asked her what she had said. Then she sarcastically started saying how lucky she was that I had come to the island and how she hoped I appreciated it and could she do anything to make my stay any better. I was so stunned and tired from walking so much I just stared for a few seconds and kept walking to my husband. He said after I passed she flicked me off and get friends started laughing. This was a grown woman, not a teenager. I always wish I'd told her, my baby just died, I just wanted some peace in one of my favorite places on this earth and you just **** on me and my memory. Do you feel good about that? What kind of person does that to a complete stranger? My daughter was playing with a little local boy at Costsco and i looked for his parents so i could tell them how great he was being with her. His mother wouldn't look at me and told him to be careful and led him away from her. On my last visit, ironically also at Costco, my friend drove around the parking lot with my then 2 kids:) so I could grab a few things quickly without bringing the kids in. I came out to the parking lot and my friend partially blocked a parking spot. A big giant moke in a gigantic white Ford truck honked at me while i tried to quickly throw my groceries in the trunk. I looked back at him and just had her move forward to get out of the way. He backed in forcing several cars to wait as he slowly maneuvered backwards, then rolled down his window and called me a dumb hauoli over his young daughter and wife. I was so furious i looked him in the eye and said What?! Then remembered i had a 3 year old and a baby in car. He called me a dumb hauoli again and with freckles flaming I'm sure, just left. This is so common in Hawaii now that I just expect it. I see no sign off it changing. If anything they feel empowered because they associate themselves with persecuted minorities like Black Americans when they act more like the red necks I saw in the South. Horrible drop out rates, high teenage pregnancy rates, welfare recipients, now homelessness. Willful and defiant ignorance. I love Hawaii and I hate it. I will never live there again and I wish I could get over it but it still gets me so angry. Once someone involved my child in it, everything changed. This year will be my last trip there for a long time. I love my friends that are still there. My Hawaiian teachers were beautiful and loving people,I had many great experiences but so much hate as well. The aloha spirit exists and many are great but so many are in terrible places and blame hauolis for everything when they need to educate themselves and clean up their government so opportunities exist for all. Stop living in the past and realize racism is racism is racism. It's always going to be wrong.

You nailed it, the biggest problem about Hawaii is that the government perpetuates this hate and all the behaviors which go along with it.

We despise you people because you disrupted our peace. Before any "outsiders" came to Hawaii everything was peaceful, however many settlers came and brought along diseases and unwanted pests into our community. That is why we don't want anyone from the mainland, simply because THEY think they're better and they're rude too and this post and all these hateful comments prove it. You people come to this island like fleas, that's why our island is so overpopulated. You people took everything from us that is why we share so much antipathy against you.

You are one of our states. We own you. So shut up and take it.

See what I mean? More ignorant local youth.

Hawaii wasn't going to stay hidden forever and you are very lucky that the English came first. Had the Japanese come first, they would have slaughtered every one alive. Look at their history. They have tried to kill every single one of their neighbors: Russia, China (repeatedly), Korea and The Philippines. That's why all their neighbors hate them in Asia. They would have slaughtered everyone here and no one would have know about "Hawaiians".

Everything was certainly not peaceful before that. Tribes were killing each other left and right. Even Kamehameha was brutally violent. Did you know that at the Battle of Nu'uanu Pali, he was shoving men, WOMEN AND CHILDREN off the pali to certain death? How is that peaceful?

No one from the mainland "took" anything from you. Learn your history. In 1959, you all decided to become a state -- a part of the United States of America. Mainlanders have just as much right to be here as you do on the mainland. In fact, if you look at the money, we Mainlanders are completely subsidizing (paying for) you.

Puke -- that's the Hawaiian word for "book". Spend some time with your face in some books instead of Facebook.

Japanese are hated all over Asia, yet loved in Hawaii. That goes to show the lack of education again. japan has done some very wicked, evil things and slaughtered thousands upon thousands of Chinese in China. Total invasion. Imagine what they would have done to Hawaii. you locals would not be speaking pidgin, you would be speaking Japanese.

You nailed it

Atta boy! I agree completely

Great Britain did come to Hawai'i before America did and respected hawai'i sovereignty. Do you honestly believe that had American not overthrown the monarch of Hawai'i that Japan would of? Do you honestly believe that overthrowing a sovereign nation is the only way to protect U.S interests? Could it be possible that the monarchy had enough wisdom to have trade agreements with a lot of countries including the US government that they may just agree with granting and letting our country build and run U.S bases on the islands? See its this colonial thinking that is the problem. The Japanese posible invasion of Hawai'i is just a justification

I would like to point out when discussing hawai'i history is that it might be helpful to put things into context. For example uslng what was basically the dark ages in Hawai'i history to justify a violent action from a modern democratic country isn't fair. Further I think it's important to also understand that at the time of first contact with westerners it's Said that Hawai'i native population was 8000,000. But due to diseases from westerners that the kanaka were not immune to majority of the population was decimated. It's always interesting in discussions of the statehood vote that no one really states that at the time if the statehood vote 90% of the voters voting to make Hawai'i a state were U.S citizens. That whatever few native Hawaiians were left didn't vote and protestted . Kinda stacking the deck. Further there was other things about the election that was illegal but that's another topic. The point is you don't learn about real Hawai'i history from western books. Even U.H doesn't really teach it.

Boo, hoo, hoo. Whitey was mean to our ancestors so let's blame them for every one of our problems now. How about locals try cleaning up their meth epidemic? Failing schools and high rate of illiteracy? Above average rate of domestic violence? Exploding rates of stds? And let's not forget the dependence on federal and state welfare! The reason you live in such a ghetto culture is because you have a ghetto mentality. And only YOU can change that.

Celestral, SHE had nothing to do with any of these so called "facts" that locals keep breeding to keep the hate alive. So get some education.

No! We gave everything to you. Russia or Japan would likely own your ignorant *** if it weren't for the U.S.

Well **** you then, you people are scum.

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What doesn't bother me:

I'm originally from Hawaii, born and raised. I lived there for the first 23 years of my life, however I have been away for over 30 years and only come back for funerals. Perhaps going home solely for the purpose of attending funerals is depressing enough, however it seems to me that each visit shows how much more of the islands have decayed. The problem is that the current generation does not have the industriousness of their parents and grandparents. Not only have they discontinued the old family businesses; they now live 3 or 4 generations to a house! No one wants to work any more. I would never start a business there. I could not find employees worth hiring! Everyone has a disproportionate sense of entitlement and is quick to feel slighted. There is so much crime, corruption, and backwardness it feels like a third-world country. You Hawaiians deserve each other!


My dad is in the military and we moved here... I agree... worst place on earth. The people here act like they are in charge of you. They act like they own you. They try to tell you to do things their way because the island is "theirs" Even though it's NOT. The government could plant a nuclear bomb if they wanted too. The Hawaiians think they are better than everyone else. If they didn't have the mainland and everything WE give them,, Hawaii would be nothing. They'd be BROKE. Plus, since Hawaii thinks they're their own little country everything has to be different. Getting your license wise, education wise, etc. Education is HORRIBLE. I learn nothing. The schools are like homeless shelters. Hawaii is such a burden on me. I'd never live here forever even if I had the best house on the island. I cannot wait to leave. I will gladly move back to a normal AMERICAN life.

Hawaii is also #8 for the worst education in the U.S. Proving they're illiterate, and Hawaii has very poor schools and education.

I totally agree. My wife went on a trip over there and was raped by three fat island monkey males. I have their names and where they work. See you all soon.

Doubt it. She probably willingly had sex with them, then told you a fake story. You shouldn't be on the "I hate Hawaii" page. You should be on the "I'm a cuckold" page.

I was extremely offended by this. You should not talk about us like this. I'm white and I have a happy life here! We are literate, and have fine lives. Save your rude stupid comments to yourself.

In Hawaii, the first thing we're taught is respect. The second is how Caucasian settlers came and held their queen captive while they overthrew the island. So if you're wondering why the locals take pride in where they come from it's because every time a snotty *** person like you comes they always want to change **** and can never be happy with just the breath of life, hence why the word "haole" means without breath.

If you look deep into the history it wasn't Hawaiians who founded Hawaii. So, this island doesn't belong to Hawaiians. Not even the totally different race who founded it. It's the governments island.

But we were the first people there soooo, you lose

You're clearly so rude and ignorant that you're just confirming everyone's points about the dumb locals. Why are you even on this site? So pathetic

That is, if you are Hawaiian. Most "locals" are Asian or some other pI race

yeah but we were probably here before all you white people

It shouldn't matter who was here first. It's now a global society so get used to it. Ignorance is bliss.

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I was offered a really awesome job on one of the islands as a Chiropractor last year. I am from Florida originally. When I got here, the owners wife felt threatened because she said I was "too pretty and too successful" to work with her husband. Crazy right? Well, after about a month my boss told me that his wife was divorcing him unless he got rid of me. So he asked me to leave. My boss was much older and extremely unattractive, and I felt like it was a horrible thing to happen to someone who didn't deserve it. Especially considering that I had just re-located here from Florida. As a Chiropractor I had an impossible time trying to find another associateship. With 8 years of college and the same student loan and education as a medical doctor, I was left totally screwed. The island I live on is small, and I contacted all of the other Chiropractors trying to get a job with them. As they ran single doctor practices, this was not possible. I have been here 8 months and I don't even have enough $ to move back. I had to forfeit my license in Florida to stay here and it is $600 to get it back. Since I was in school for 8 years I have no work history and I couldn't even find a job as a waitress. Plus, no one wanted to hire an out of work Chiropractor. I am borderline homeless, and would give anything to go home. Hawaii has been spoiled in my mind forever

It's technically not Hawaii's fault though. Like seriously, it's not the island's fault you got fired. And if you couldn't find a job as a waitress, go find another job, like work in a store. I think it's your fault that you are practically homeless cause you're not putting any effort in to finding a job.

That's stupid. They won't give an educated person an uneducated job here. I know it's happened to me too!

This just proves that you're an idiot. It doesn't say anything bad about Hawaii though.

I have seen this happen again and again, locals looking to the mainland to find workers who actually want to work, and something really dum like this happens. If they would educate and train the local populate decent work ethic, this would have never happened in the first place. I feel so sorry for you. If you have not gotten out of this situation yet and are in a homeless shelter or near, and since you ARE an educated "attractive" woman you would be highly successful teaching in China, Japan or S. Korea. They are always looking for a 4 year bachelor any field teacher and they value "haole" faces If you want to be valued, respected, and have a fulfilling job I would ONe. Get out of the third world country you are in and Two: Find the fascinating fullfulling life to live outside of Hawaii, its such a dumpy rock. and I hope you sew the pants off the old fart, what a jerk.

I'm so sorry. Something very similar has happened to me. Good luck

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Blame your hate for your experience on living in Hawaii on everyone and everything else.... If you did hate it so much why didn't you just slit your wrists like you said?? Some people love Hawaii and some people don't, chill out.

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If Hawaiians hate white people then I absolutely LOVE Hawaiians. :)

Dummy, they'd hate you too. They barely love themselves - that's why there's a meth epidemic throughout HI!

Where the heck have you heard that there's a meth epidemic huh? Get your facts straight before you put it on the internet.

Have you ever been to Hawaii?? They have one of the worst meth problems in the country!!

Its the number one Meth state in the UNITED STATES and that's a Stat. I wouldn't live there for free.

Try checking your sources again. It's actually Missouri. And no one asked you to live here.


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Alright, so I grew up on Maui for 20 years - my family's from Japan - they moved when I was a year old. Father's from a military family, he's half Sicilian/Japanese, my mom's Korean. Don't even get me started on the racism they had to go through. After 20 years I lived on O'ahu for 4 years, and lived in Los Angeles for 7 years after that to work in the film industry, so I think I got a pretty good grasp on the contrast. First thing I'll say is there's truth in absolutely everything that everyone is saying here. I was teased for being mostly asian - Japanee I was called, while the kids made slant eyes with their hands, pulling their eyes back. But that's nothing the **** that white kids have to go through…tragic..even the teachers will subtly talk down on haole students when I was in high school. "what you ****** haole?!" - heard that everyday since ******* kindergarten. The amount of bullying is insane, and sadly, usually stems from the attitude of the local parents: many kids that bully (and this is true anywhere) are following the attitude-example set by their parents that usually smack the **** out of them. "eh boy, get me one bea' if you no like one false crack!" the overweight uncle says while his father says "what, you no hear uncle?! hurry up you little fucka!!" as they get smashed around a grill while they grill the some tako and opihi they caught/gathered with the foodland-bought pipikaula being shared in it's foam plate (yeah I really grew up there) Drugged out island hicks that survive off of welfare and bud-light? True, just like there's inbred hicks living in trailers right alongside the loving country grandma that'll cook you a fresh apple pie who's the most authentically nice person you've met besides having lived a life that most would describe as hellish? You get where I'm going with this right? This kind of mentality is everywhere, it just takes different forms, it's just more in your ******* face in a small town/island. I've seen confederate flags waved around in some outskirts of cali and oregon, how do you think I'd be treated if I just walked around in those places? **** I still get asked if I'm "from here"(America) for **** sake I speak PERFECT English and Pidgin…**** I can even talk with a damn Cockney accent with all the actors I've hung out with. I even had a voice-over agent send me Cambodian scripts to audition because she assumed being able to speak a bit of Japanese meant "speak a little bit of anything Asian". -this is one example where the term"dumb haole" is valid. If you're thinking "what's the difference between Cambodian and Japanese?" you fall into this category - for some reason or another, at least in Hawai'i, the local populace knows the damn difference, because they know that "Asian" does not mean everywhere in Asia…I mean Russia is Asia ffs. Anyway, Ignorance is everywhere, I have to say the KIND of ignorance is unique in the mainland US and Hawaii. In defense of people that hate hawaii - hey I get it; some locals are DUMB as ****, like HOLY **** HOW CAN YOU BE THAT STUPID?! And MEAN?! But wait, PEOPLE ARE LIKE THAT EVERYWHERE!! It's just that on an island or rural community, it's just more pronounced because you can't hide from it. City like LA, NYC (oh yeah, worked there for several months, you want rude mean people under the excuse of "hey at least they're not lying/plastic about it like L.A.!"), **** anywhere crowded, you have a few friends/groups you choose, and ignore everything else. Hard to do in a small chain of islands 3000 miles away from everything. Locals are pissed about what the whiteman did to the islands, understandable, yet wtf did Kamehameha do? Unite the islands? Yeah because everyone was ******* killing each other left and right, so he killed and ruled, just like every type of Kingdom-based society every-******* where when it was all Game-of-Thrones. Am I defending the "whiteman?" No, everybody's a damn pillaging, enslaving murderer somewhere down the line, ****** up as it is, we're all by-products of wars. Now, I do know for a fact that my friends and my brothers current friends just loved going around punching tourists out because there's nothing to do for them besides that…most of those kids are in jail now. But here - **** I lived in a ghetto part of Highland Park and got immune to gunfire, to the point where a drive-by with semi-autos happened 50 feet away from me and a friend having a talk outside and we didn't even BLINK. No, that's not a good thing. Local boys think you're tough in Hawai'i, we have authentically ****** up **** up here you don't see. Damn right MS-13: home invasions, tying up families, raping and killing them in front of the father before executing all of them. **** like that doesn't happen in Hawai'i..last time I checked anyway. So this post is getting long, I'm just saying - both sides can be right, people are awesome and suck everywhere. About island fever and the paradise setting - after driving 600 mile round trips to go take photos for fun out into ghost towns in Cali, WHY THE **** is going to Wailea to Lahaina "FAR"?! Oh, because it's like a quarter of the island, and 45 minutes is A LONG ****** DRIVE, brah….if you've never lived outside the islands. It's all relative. You know what I realized though - people in Hawai'i, many, are terrified of the mainland. If I could draw a map of the world from my childhood mind, I could name most countries and I'd label the continental USA "THERE BE DRAGONS..and crazy haoles". I discovered the latter to be true..but I've worked in film/tv in L.A. - almost everyone is ******* nuts..but you expect it. Paradise - yeah Hawai'i is stunning, but honestly I personally was most visually blown away by the redwood forests and coast of NorCal than anything I've seen in Hawai'i..the sheer span and falcons, vultures, etc, and as a fan of ghost towns - the abandoned mining towns here and places in Utah..you don't get that in Hawai'i…at the same time, the water is ******* freezing and it's raining 80% of the time up there so ****. Anyway my point - **** comes with the territory, some people handle it better than others and take a place for what it is - not for everyone. Nowhere is. Especially Liberia - see with enough research, you can just never go to some places because you can tell it's not for you.

Great review!

You made some sense until you mentioned the "States". Hawaii is a state. You are referring to the mainland. BTW, I wouldn't consider living there as well.

Dummy, he meant ppl outside of the US relocating to "the States". Not everything is about the pathetic little island chain called Hawaii!


Blah, blah, blah, Kalena. I've heard all that HI history before. Old News. Again, none of it excuses the active racism shown by locals toward caucasians TODAY. And funny how I've never experienced racism from any other group while growing up in a very diverse part of the mainland. Was I somehow only "hateful" and "ignorant" to locals in HI but nowhere else. Btw, that's called sarcasm because that reasoning is as ridiculous as your posting. Finally, if you're only responding to the OP, why are you as a local trolling sites re why Hawaii sucks. I'm from NY and don't look for sites about why NY sucks. And guess what? If someone felt it did, that would be their opinion based on their personal experience - and they are entitled to it. Secure people recognize that. Way to go, OP!!

i can tell you racism and the hate not even toward white only, they all target people whoever not from here

Obviously you are not educated as much as you believe you are in the Hawaiian Culture. yes, the way we speak may seem to be improper English, however it is called pidgeon and originated on the plantations, due to all the different ethnicities and language, pidgeon was a way to compile all of the languages and make one that everyone could use to communicate, yes it is primarily English because the people who ran the plantations were white, however it is apart of Hawaii's culture now. Also, yes there may be plenty of racist people over here, however it is not as severe as you make it out to be, I am sure if you were more respectful and open to the way of life in Hawaii, and not as hateful and ignorant, your experience and the people around you would have been more enjoyable. Lastly if you are going to complain about how we are so uneducated and speak so improper please ensure that you have no spelling or grammatical errors, I know you said not to mention it, however I find it rather hypocritical and contradictory.

you are a lolo you ***** kalena808. Never saw so many women that i thought were men in my entire life until hawaii. Big, momona *******. Damn, never saw a worst work force, more disgusting, smelly, lazy bunch of people in my life and I have worked all over the world. Hell, Iraqis work better than fat *** hawaiins. But that is ok, the nice part about hawaii is that boats are cheap so dropping bodies is easy. Sharks eat them and no evidence left behind. Three of your chimps raped my wife and one thing whites are good at is conquering....... i think it took us a DAY to conquer your ***** country. Can't wait to see the eyes of the three that I am coming for. This hoale doesn't run.

First off, do you feel better when you swear?

Believe me, I learned more HI history than I ever wanted to while living there. And what always got me was how so many uneducated locals acted as if HI is alone in the experience of being conquered and forced to change as a result. How about learning some general world history?! Then you'll know HI is not so unique. And to claim that locals - most of whom aren't even Hawaiian - have some right to be racist toward caucasians today is just so lame. Locals are prejudiced because like all prejudiced people, they're uneducated and unaccomplished and turn to racism/a distorted sense that they're superior to others to make themselves feel better about themselves. Btw, are you even local? And if so, why are you trolling a site dedicated to why HI sucks? So sad...

We learn about Hawaiian history because they want to teach us about our ancestors. Why do you think they teach people about mainland history? huh? And we don't need to be Hawaiian to be considered local. Look up to definition of local in the dictionary and get your facts straight. And wherever you're from, you're probably considered local too. Who are you to call people on Hawaii uneducated and unaccomplished? Have you heard of Bruno Mars, well he's from Hawaii and he's really famous. And our President is from Hawaii. Barack Obama wouldn't become President if he was uneducated!

Ha ha. You're posting just confirms the poor reasoning that comes from a poor education. Bruno Mars?! OK, he's a singer but not exactly known for his IQ. As for POTUS, he went to private schools and not the terrible public ones in HI. What's more, he was raised by his white grandparents and mother, not locals.

That's funny your explanation as what is local, as I know plenty of Caucasians born and raised in Hawaii yet never accepted as local. sad.

Wow who is ignorent ? Who is racist? I remember a Hawai'i that was unique to any other state in the country. Todays Honolulu looks and acts like any mainland city? Further why is it every poor community in Hawai'i is populated by Hawaiians, Asians but few Caucasians? But as you goto wealthier communities on the islands it's the opposite more whites and less Asians and Hawaiians. It's the same on the mainland in ghettos. What is it with Caucasians? This forum is an great example of the white male dominate privileged society mentality. Ignoring the racial economic inequality and the cultural dominate attitudes and actions by mainlanders in the past and present in Hawai'i is convenient at best. Last I checked Caucasians in Hawai'i weren't forced to speak pidgin or olelo Hawaiian or had English outlawed. Nor last I checked had Caucasians from the mainland been imprisoned for bombing Asian countries or had their properties taken to not be returned. Last I checked I haven't seen locals or Hawaiians lynching or hanging mainland Caucasians yet. But all these things have happened to Hawaiians and Asian Americans and locals in Hawai'i by rich white mainlanders. Today mainland type business and culture is in every corner of Oahu vs local just 30, 40, 50 years ago. It's sad all this bad history from a small minority.

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Try learning the history of Hawai'i. Do you know what the Americans did to it? They took the culture, religion and the land. Locals are that way because they know the history and perhaps they do take it a little far but I'm sure you would too if an entirely new country came a took over your home and then changed EVERYTHING about it. If they came and told you that you couldn't speak your language or dance or practice whatever religion you have.

Not sure who you're responding to, Fibchopkin, as you never identify anyone. Either way, I'm happy to hear you've had a mostly positive experience w locals in HI. However, I don't think you should assume anyone's negative experience there is due to a lack of exposure to locals. In fact, I had MUCH MORE than you have - which seems to be limited to neighbors and some classmates - as not only did I date several local men, living with one for years, I worked with locals while serving a mostly local population for over a decade. So when I say that many locals are shockingly uneducated and prejudiced, it is coming from an informed place. And even the several local friends I did make via work stated this. Your experience is just that, your experience. And it's a limited one at that.

Wow, I'm sorry your experience was so terrible, but I have to wonder how much effort you expended in actually getting out of Honolulu and learning to understand the aina and what it means to most Native Hawaiians.

My own experience could not have been more different from yours. We moved here, like so many others, because of the military. We decided to buy a house and scouted around the island of Oahu until we found an area we really liked- a small town on the windward side of the island with a good school nearby and a low crime rate. Our neighborhood is very mixed, a handful of military mixed in with a large number of locals and Native Hawaiians. From the first minute we moved in, our neighbors, especially the women, swarmed us with support, food, offers of free child care, free car rides, and well... Aloha. Our next door neighbor ( A local of mostly Japanese descent, for the record) helped me install new plumbing free of all charge except for a beer and a chat when my husband got sent out on mission our second week here. "Auntie" Lei, a Truly amazing Hawaiian Native lady who is very steeped In traditional culture (even works daily in the Lo'i and pounds her own kalo) popped over every day for a week during my first days back to school for my MS just to make sure I was eating and coping with being a virtual single mom and full time student. My neighbors down the street, a mixed couple, she's haole, he's mostly Native with some Pake- I think, and their five children welcomed my so into their tumultuous and wonderful family, and now the six of them run in and out of all the houses in our neighborhood, where they are loved, fed, and disciplined by every Auntie and Uncle in the neighborhood. Yep, the village is raising all our children together and I never worry about safety the way I did on the mainland.

Meeting and living with all these wonderful people, and hanging out with Auntie Lei led me to want to learn more about Hawaiian culture and tradition, so I took a HAP studies course at my school (I go to UH, but I know for a fact that every community college on the island offers at least one Hawaiian studies course). I learned about the ties between the land and the people in Polynesian culture, about the horrendous and underhanded way that the Hawaiian monarchy was forced out of Honolulu by a puppet government and a "Bayonet Constitution". I learned that pidgin, while difficult to get used to at first, is a mishmash of languages developed by a mix of cultures who forced to work in the sugar canes and pineapple plantations and whose children were not allowed to attend school. I learned that many people speak it now both in defiance of a society that continuously belittled and undervalued them, and also in respect of beloved grandparents and great grands who had no real choice in their speech because they were denied school and needed to work in the fields. After learning about all these things, the (very few) hostile locals and Natives I've met made more sense to me. Their great-grandparents and great-greats had their land forcibly taken or underhandedly stolen away, and now tourism and foreign influence has driven real estate prices, cost of living, and job competition through the roof. While I don't consider myself responsible for the troubles here, I am capable of imagining myself in the shoes of some who do, and can at least understand their bitterness- I might be bitter too, if my ancestry and culture were slowly being both marginalized and commercialized at the same time.

As I said, I'm sorry your experience was so awful, but it's very difficult for me to believe that you were truly willing to learn about and understand Island culture, beyond the plastic insincerity of Waikiki and downtown honolulu. And as for calling the local flavor "uneducated," well, to each his own, but I find it charming and relaxed. I suppose you might find my own hometown dialect uneducated sounding too, though. Whether it's Southernese, Geechee, Gullah, Boston slang, Brooklyn drawl, Texas twang, or Hawaiian Pidgin, I think the cultural differences in our American language should be celebrated, not denigrated.

Right on! The Hawaiian "culture" as it stands is one of the most uneducated, unaccomplished, irresponsible, insecure and prejudiced I've ever seen. Instead of putting their energy into fixing their horrible schools and above average rates of meth addiction, domestic violence and dependence on welfare, the locals prefer to whine about hoales, blaming whitey for everything with no sense of a broader world. Believe it or not, other cultures have been conquered, having their land taken while being forced to speak another language. Yet they still managed to survive and even thrive. Look at Israel! Ireland! The list goes on. So stop the endless whining and blaming and fix your decaying culture! Sooo lucky I "no longer live hawaii"!

Actually, Hawaii had the greatest literacy percentage EVER.

Um, what time period are you referring to? A 2009 study deemed 1 in 6 HI locals "functionally illiterate".


Again, blah, blah, blah. And I can write in all caps as well but chose to calmly make my points, 808. And history is history. Stop blaming the state of every mess in HI on the overthrow of the monarchy! The reason HI is the mess that it is in is much more complicated than that. What's more, locals need to stop sitting around playing victim and actually do something about their dysfunctional culture. The meth epidemic, high rates of illiteracy, domestic violence and welfare dependence isn't going to go away by nurturing prejudice against whitey!

Are seriously kidding me right now? First off, Hawaii didn't have a meth epidemic. And so many other states have high rates of illiteracy and domestic violence


in the early 20th century. Now you have pidgeon

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Simple answer to reason why we don't like foreigners.
Hawaiians were treated badly when whites took their culture away, forced us to praise their God, killed us with their diseases, and abolished the Hawaiian Monarchy by force.
Don't you have the common sense to out together a good reason (with this information given) why we are retaliating against whites?

And, of course, the whites you are retaliating against are the very ones who personally committed those criminal acts, right? You sound rather ignorant.


Thou I agree that the people who actually overthrew the hawai'i kingdom are all dead and your not responsible for that. But what haole are still responsible for today is maintaining the same ideals, actions and mentalities that the haoles had in the past and today they still benefit from the actions of the past. If you truely don't believe your responsible then restore things to before the actions were taken. But what you don't understand is its not just the overthrow of the monarch that we see this haole mentality but in events from the plantation years all the way to today. Just study real Hawai'i history and walk outside your door in Hawai'i today.

Hawaiians. Hawaiians are a small and dying minority. I see more Asians crying haole than any Hawaiian I knew and found it funny.

So u say locals r bad people? how about u show respect to the islands and the locals and maybe ur life wont be so bad. u say the weather is hot here? go to Florida and complain. us locals live off this so dont act like u suffering ok? u say that locals speak bad english. its called pidgen, created by Japanese, Hawaiians, Philippines, Hispanics, Chinese, and Some Europeans during the times of the sugar period where haoles (foreigners mainly whites) took power away from the Native Hawaiians and owned us for hard labor for the sugar industry. Calling me an "Island Hillbilly"? where in the mainland where there is: no crime, no racial tensions, no foreign or alternate languages, or actual paradise? u make Hawaii sound like Far Cry 3, but have u checked Maui? Kauai? Molokai? Big Island? No? then shut up. U better watch what u say bout Hawaiians, cuz Americans destroyed our society and we dont take that kindly even today. and THAT settles the outsider issue.

Ignorant statement.

You didn't have to join the US. It was a CHOICE by your government. You did this to yourselves. Maybe if your state wasn't so bitter and entitled, then you could work to make yourselves better. Instead, you just want to whine and complain and blame whites.


Better ourselfs? By what standards are you judging better by? Every culture and people have pros and cons. The old Hawai'i way of life was good and valued ohana, community,spirituality and a laidback lifestyle over commercialism, wealth and individualism . The ills your see today in Honolulu is not because of the lack of education, locals or Hawaiian culture but the influence of outsiders money and values. Don't believe me? Just look back 30, 40 or 50 years ago when Hawai'i in a lot of ways was a foreign country in culture and everyday life.

I live in a tropical island where central AC is not a must.Please get me out of here!!!!Me no savage!

Can you seriously suck it up? How do people manage to call people living in Hawaii "cry babies" or whatever? Over here, probably the highest temperature it will be is in the 90's. While on the mainland it can get up to 100 degrees

I spent the last two decades of my life trying to buy a house on the Big Island. Home ownership has been just out of my reach. I did, however, manage to buy a condo. Good thing, as living here has shown me the nasty reality of the islands.

The beautiful places I visited long ago are now trampled and trashed. Crowded, dirty beaches and lifeless barren rock where there used to be thriving coral and fish communities. All gone.

The homeless wander the streets, half dead from exposure to the hot sun and filthy streets. The so called locals, bitter and angry, make up any reason to give you stink-eye. Beat up trucks with "defend aloha" stickers that proclaim their hate of foreigners. It is hard to live aloha when bad attitudes are so common.

So many just barely scrape by. It is so sad. They are too poor to move to the mainland where a better quality of life exists. I wondered why there were so many former islanders on the mainland, now I know why.

I made one last offer on a house recently. A last chance to make a life in Hawaii. I full well know that I can live better on the mainland, but I still have a glimmer of hope to live the life of aloha. Who knows, maybe in some small way I can blend in and do some good here. After all, good or bad, almost every living thing on the islands came from somewhere else.

bumper stickers show no sign of foreigner disapproval. get ur fact straight cuz as a local, i only hate foreigners who show disrespect or dont know how to live a rough life (you). we have homeless cuz too many people in our islands. u want better island? Maui. nuff said.

I want to apologize for an error on my post. I wrote that the "defend aloha" bumper stickers proclaimed hate of foreigners. The correct statement should have been "defend Hawaii" bumper stickers are displayed by a minority of locals who hate foreigners. You know, the decal and t-shirts that have a military assault rifle on it? It symbolizes hate of foreigners, period. Those who fill their heart with hate will never be happy. If you are happy on the island, just enjoy your life. Does it really matter what people post here? You know as well as I do, Hawaii life isn't for everyone.

it symbolizes the defense for the hawaiian way. u dont have to say that hawaiians hate foreigners cuz of stereotypes. i would know cuz my cousin makes those shirts

Last time I visited Hawaii I saw that creepy militant defend Hawaii crap and I thought wow they really have lost it LOL...silly people

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I could not agree more with the OP. First of all, the weather here sucks. It is hot, the sun is blazing, and the humidity drives me crazy! I cannot sleep half the time, maybe except in the winter, due to humidity. Second of all, the food here is terrible. All they have is McDonald's and Subways. Coming from California, I miss In-N-Out, Chick-fil-A, Chipotle, etc... well, you get the idea. And ethnic foods here for horrible as well. The only decent foods I can find here are Thai foods, but only because there are many Thai living here. But they eff up all other ethnic foods catered to cheap Hawaiian taste with lots of sugar and mayo. How much spam and micro-salad can these people eat???

The locals are so proud of their "paradise" and think mainland is only composed of LAS VEGAS. Vegas isn't the only mainland place out there. Try visiting a different states/locations other than making the same lame Vegas trip every weekend. All the businesses and radio stations promote are Vegas, Vegas, and more Vegas. Yeah, a good way to educate your kids on gambling.

Next, the drivers. Wow, these people cannot drive to save their life. Until I came to Hawaii, I have never seen people driving in a fast lane going at 35 mph. If you are going to drive like a grandma, MOVE OVER TO SLOWER LANE!!! And the roads here are messed up with so many potholes they only temporarily fix so they can "fix" it again a couple of months later. And what is up with people here spending five minutes to back in? If you can't back in, just park it with your nose in! Instead of impeding traffic in the already tiny parking lot! Paradise would not have backed up traffic on the WEEKENDS both in Waikiki and NORTH SHORE. Sometimes I don't even bother going out on the weekends because the traffic is nightmare.

To sum it up, if I had a choice, I'd much rather live in any other 48 contiguous states. The only reason why I live here is because of my family. Yeah I agree OP, Hawaii SUCKS.

mainland sux! some states dont have an ocean, culture, good education, respectable people, good law/justice system, and hawaiians. i agree on the 48 contagious states, but Hawaii is one of a kind so respect it

I never said I did not respect Hawaiian culture. That is not the issue here. My problem with Hawaii is the way the state is run. As a local here, I'm seeing Hawaii turning into another Metropolitan cities such New York and LA, except with no variety. Seriously, how many McDonald's and Subways does this island need? Why not create a room for some other major establishments, or mom and pop places? And what is up with building more ***** malls with stores such Sak's Fifth Avenue??? I guess all the state care about is making money off rich tourists? Many Hawaiians are on EBT. So what good is Bloomingdale's and Saks? In a nutshell, Oahu is just another crowded place transforming into mainland wannabe, with lot less choices. As I'm typing this, I see bumper to bumper traffic. The current time is 10:17PM.

If you don't like how the state is ran, then start a petition or whatever. Let your voice be heard. And it doesn't hurt to make money to improve somethings. Why do you think it's crowded? Because so many mainland people are coming. Go move to a less crowded island like Maui or something. And by the way, we don't care about the time.

Hawaii's average temp is 72 ****** degrees F. Mainland 110 degree heat waves and 20 degree winters. WHAT THE **** IS WRONG WITH YOU?!? think hawaii is crowded? VISIT ******* NEW YORK

Do you think we can control the weather? Like there's a switch that makes the Islands so hot? On the mainland it can get up to 100 degrees or more. While here, it goes up to 90 degrees. And have you ever heard of a fan to keep you cool? Are you seriously complaining how slow people drive? Do you have somewhere important to go? Sorry for trying to be careful on the road. And Hawaii is a laid back Island. Do you have any idea how many visitors we have here? And how many people want to see some world famous beaches. And Hawaii doesn't want you here so byeeeeee

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Im glad i found your text!
My short story:
Im from Germany and visited the US for vacation many times before. It was always great. Friendly people, lots to explore, amazing nature. Its always a time which i never will forget.
This time my girl came with me and i made the big mistake to book 4 days Hawaii too. It should be a lil rest of our exicting trip thru the southwest of the USA.
Big big mistake. Todays the last day of the four most badest holiday days in my life and i can tell you, i have many places seen in my life!

The hawaiin, friendly ******** rip you off where and whenever they can. You pay for everthing and you pay everytime money for trash(food for example)
You get treated if those people over here are the highest human on earth. The hotel sucks, everywhere are people laying on the street in their own ****.
I mean, one of the most things i get pissed from is how i get rip off day by day. Im to tired and angry to say everything what i have seen here. Im just glad to leave this island in a few hours and i will never come back. I going to post a detailed text about my experiences on every german tourist website i can find. And even if my text will beware just one person from flying to this arrogant island my job would be done
Greetings from Hawaii
Benni/ Munich

Well you are a spoiled little @sshole. As mentioned before, people are working their #@$%! @sses of and people just need money to pay rent, water, etc. Hawaiians do not lie in their own ****. And you are talkin bout the US? puh-lease look at your own f*ckin country. Hello? heard of, oh I don't know, NAZIS, HITLER, THE HOLOCAUST, etc. if u dont like it, hop your *** on a plane to your hellhole of a country.

He was referring to the homeless situation in Hawaii. Not everybody likes Hawaii. Even the Chinese come visit and say never again its SO poor there, and those are CHINESE

Go to the Caribeaan next time much better. Hawaii locals have lost their minds on how they treat tourists, they really are chasing them away. Even the tourist hotel workers treat tourists with hostility, don't feel welcomed. I use to live in Hawaii, I have many friends in China saying they visited Hawaii, why would you live there its so POOR? and those are Chinese hahaa

I thought I was going to Hawaii to work, and a retreat from the busy mainland. I was there for 18 months, and after getting pushed out of another job, I prayed that God would help me get outta there. Although I was white, I was getting abused by white people who fled from the mainland to bully others (AND THEY ALL GET AWAY WITH IT!!!). There's a huge bullying spirit over the entire Island. It's like High School times 300. I didn't even know how oppressive and awful it was until I escaped, this week. Besides, I couldn't afford it anymore, lived paycheck to paycheck, got pushed out of jobs, etc. I EVEN HAVE A PHD. It took 24 hours back in California and I am kissing the ground, praying I never get stuck there or anywhere like that again. I feel lighter, already feel healthier, brighter. There is a darkness and oppressive aspect that leaves once you get back on the Mainland. The awful thing, is that some (especially on Maui) believe they are living the good life, but don't even realize how miserable they are. God rescued me from that horror, and He can rescue you too! Thanks for your post. Besides, I have to say, I was soooo unhealthy in Hawaii. I gained weight, ate bad, and felt bloated. lol...... In California, feel like I've already lost 10 pounds of DEPRESSION!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GET OUT AND DON'T DIE THERE

I went to school 2 years in Hawaii, graduated and had a job there for 3 solid years. 3 solid years of hell. Working with locals, who were exclusive, and constantly trying to trip me up, no explaining things to me, not inviting me to their endless lunches, not speaking to me, turning co workers against me and being just plain mean and hateful stayed with me years later. They made my life hell and caused me to be written up several times. Never happened before or since. I am not even "haole" but of Hispanic origin. The Holy Asian/Pacific Island mentality is so small and hateful. I met a few people there, but mostly from the mainland who were cool. But man, locals are brutal. What I don't get is its the largest welfare state but they complain sooo much about the oppressive US Govt, I would never go back, I will visit the Caribeean :)

I agree to an extent I was raised her and left at 21 we came back September 2012 and will be leaving in February 2014 this is not the home of my childhood and I had a great one here! And a lot if complaining about Hawaiians well honestly I can stand the way the Asian community treats people they are rude and pushy try riding the bus? They act as if this is their Island. A lot of local people white and of Hawaiian decent have said the same thing they couldn't bomb it so they bought it! The moms at my daughters school are rude and bitchy and we live in the Kapahulu area where I grew up my daughter was picked on by the little Asian girls not Hawaiian(local) she was in kindergarten for crying out Lois who cares what kind of clothes you have!? I will spend the next 5 months with a positive attitude but as soon as the plane lands in Seattle I am kissing the ground. I will always carry the Hawaii of my childhood in my heart but most likely I will never return.

I hope you by now are back in Seattle, and your daughter is being treated with the dignity she deserves. It has always been my experience in Hawaii the Asians were the most brutal. Go figure.

Its pretty sad that the entire island is labeled as island hillbilly's with no education. If you cant seem to get a job on an island that you call "low standards" then that says a lot about the education you have. There are a lot of non Hawaiians and locals that have good paying jobs in Hawaii, so you can't say the reason you couldn't get a job in Hawaii is due to the fact that you weren't born and raised on the islands. As for the weather of course it's going to be humid the island is located right above the equator, people think it's heaven because it's constantly at a neutral temperature all year round and they don't have to buy clothing for each time the seasons change. And for the pigeon language that most of you keep referring to, it was created so workers of all ethnicity such as Asians, Portuguese, and Hawaiians could understand each other as they worked on the plantations back in the 1900's, Its part of history and was past down through the years changing to what we now know as modern pigeon. As for people swearing at you on the road, fighting, brawls late at night? you can get that anywhere alcohol and drunks are located, it doesn't only happen in Hawaii. And money suckers? Oh please, everyone does what they need to do to make ends meet, everyone is a money sucker some way or somehow not just those who live in Hawaii. As for the low education level in Hawaii? the benchmarks and standards used in the public school systems are set higher then most states in the U.S, not to mention the president of the United States might I add graduated from Punahou, a school where? located on the island of Oahu. To live here is expensive but those who live here make it work, if they can do it why can't you? My parents never went to college and didn't have land past down to them like most Native Hawaiians do, they busted their butts working general labor jobs but were able to afford a 2 story house with 4 bedrooms and raise 5 kids with the small income that they had. It has nothing to do with the color of your skin or the type of blood that runs through your veins, it's about whether you can do what you need to do to survive, Isn't that how it is everywhere? The fact that things didn't work out for most of the people who decide to live here isn't because they're not local, it's due to the fact that they think it's going to be paradise when in actuality it's a dog eat dog world. And stop referring to the people who live in Hawaii Hawaiians, yes some of us do have Hawaiian blood in us but we are Americans just like you.

THANK U!! a real person!!


It's not pigeon, it's pidgin. Anytime there are two cultures that mix and one adopts the other culture's language that first generation is always mixed up and it's called a pidgin language. They exist all over the world.
noun: pidgin; plural noun: pidgins
a grammatically simplified form of a language, used for communication between people not sharing a common language. Pidgins have a limited vocabulary, some elements of which are taken from local languages, and are not native languages, but arise out of language contact between speakers of other languages.
another term for Tok Pisin.
noun: Pidgin
denoting a simplified form of a language, especially as used by a nonnative speaker.
"we exchanged greetings, communicating in pidgin Spanish"

My mom made the mistake of moving us there from Outside Chicago in 1977 after falling in love with Jack Lord because she watched too many "Hawaii-50" episodes- Subsequently i've condemend her to eternal damnation since her wonderful choice resulted in decades of therapy for me that only recently ended!
I suffered there in public schools from 3rd grade through the University of Aloha. I must admit, there was more aloha then then there is now- less populated, less development, less poverty- but i still remember as an 8 year old kid sitting in the backseat while my mom was driving and she asked a truck driver to move his truck a bit so we could squeeze by- he's aloha infused response: "Shut up and wait you dumb *****!"
From that time I was hassled, jeered, picked on, and made to feel like a complete outsider for most of the time i lived there- I even had a guy pull a knife on me as i was walking to my apartment in Waikiki after parking my car- I talked my way out of it and cursed the "Local Boyz-No Ka Oi" the longer i lived there-
Believe it or not, i got jumped by a group of 3-4 'young polynesian gentlemen' last year right outside of Jack in the Box on Kuhio ave. in Waikiki- I was just about to go in and say hello to 'Jack' and have a bite when i was suddenly hit in the face!! i was called a '******* Haole' (for about the millionth time) I was so pissed, i threw my cell phone at one of them as hard as i could- didnt see where it hit him, but i did here the thud (much to my delight!) the next thing i knew i was running around the corner and confronted 2 of them- I kicked one of them and then was jumped by the other one- they both piled me and wailed on my head of few times! then, a couple of military guys (more stinin' Haoles!) came over to help- of course by then the cowards had run off into the night without even giving me a lay!
In a nutshell- If you're thinking you'll find paradise living there- think again- unless your are exceedingly wealthy and can create a bubble- but then it won't really be Hawaii- thank God!!!

As an African American I absolutely LOVE the fact that white people get to get a taste of your own medicine.

Wow. Seriously? A taste of our own medicine? Yes, because we are all racist. I can't remember a single time when I ganged up with white friends and jumped a black kid. I do, however, recall being jumped by some black kids because I wouldn't give her some candy I just bought. Thank god I know how to fight. Really though, this racism thing has GOT to stop. Why can't we just dislike people because they suck and not because of their color?

Hugs to you that's horrible..I am so glad one of our hero military men came to help you. Go figure, and they are so hated. I will never spend another dime on the islands. Although unfortunately they spend mine as many are on welfare, the US govt is so awful right, how would they eat ?.

I haven't read any of the responses, but I did read your article. I have lived here for five years now, moved here from San Francisco. Wow, reading this was like reading my own experience thus far!! It really is awful. I can't wait to get off this hell-hole of an ignorant rock. I am a nice, hardworking person. I have never in my life been treated like such sh*t merely because I wasn't born and raised here. Yes I have traveled (people are actually proud of never even leaving the island of Maui) and yes I read books (they also take pride in not reading/writing/speaking proper English) and no I do not fight (they love to fight and brag about it. P.S. The cops don't do ANYTHING but abuse their power. It is sad and may as well be a third world country, or worse. Oh, unless you are local/related, in which case the cops here are on your side.) all of this and more makes me want out of here. I am in my 30's, live with my fiance, live in a over-priced crappy studio, and we are having a baby in December. There is NO way I will raise my child here. No way will I allow my kid to grow up being forced to fight & brawl... Not to mention the terrible education here. Operation Move Back To The Mainland AKA Anywhere but here is in effect! I can't believe I have lasted this long. This is a place for very rich, very retired people, or, dirt-poor miserable crazy stoners. Oh how I could go on...

another stereotypical haole. dont assume that all Hawaiians are stoners. mainlanders r the main stoners cuz thats where the legend of 420 came from: mainland. U say that Hawaii is so dirty and full of rats, look at mainland. besides mainland has drunk fights to so dont expect hawaii to b all bad cuz mainland does that every day AND night AND evening. and u say that hawaii is bad? again look at mainland. at least we dont hear sirens and gunshots EVERY NIGHT LIKE LOS ANGELAS, NEW YORK, LAS VEGAS, CALIFORNIA, 50 cents house, or ANYWHERE in the mainland for that matter. u hate Hawaii? thats ur problem.

I have yet to go one day in Hawaii where I have not heard police sirens. And yeah the mainland has some $#!+ holes and some bad places but in a place so small and that has so many commercials about how everybody is treated like family, people should at least expect to be treated decently, even if they have 'invaded' your island. Although last I checked Hawaii was as much part of America (as mad as some people might be about that) as Los Angeles, New York, Las Vegas, California.

Have you ever been to the mainland? If so, which cities and states. I was born and raised in a place where I hadn't heard a gun shot until I was in my 20's. My neighbors were polite, and police were a rare sight. And this was in a city with almost the same population as Honolulu. I get it, it sucks having people saying bad things about your home. But, for you to turn around and attack the ENTIRE mainland just proves you don't know what you are talking about. Comparing a small chain of islands to the entire contiguous 48 is just as horrible as the people who stereotype all Hawaiians.

Well, if she is a stereotypical Haole what am I , as a Hispanic who hated Hawaii? I faced more intolerance in Hawaii than I ever faced in the mainland, I LOVE the mainland. I would NEVER raise a child in Hawaii for the education system alone, lack of understanding of the world, and small minds produced. Not to mention its a big eyesore and poor.


Howzit Brah? The problem is the white male dominate society thinking. Take a look at every judgement or comparison about Hawai'i from haole mainlanders on this forum it's all based on values from the mainland. Don't people know that yes we are a state in the union but we are not mainland USA.(But we are becoming more mainland everyday tho). I miss the days in Oahu where life was so foreign that in itself was the population control. But unfortunately
people don't get it. If one went to Japan it would be different and we wouldn't hear the complaints but because Hawai'i is a state it needs to conorm to mainland culture and customs. This is why you see McDonald's and subway on every corner now on mainland and Oahu. No room for uniqueness anymore unless it makes a lots of money. Can we ask mainland to take back some McDonald's for our K.C drive inn, Alice chicken or byrons drive inns. Local ma and pa places have more ono grindz.

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I've met only ONE native Hawaian living in the Mainland whom I like. He was a terriffic fellow. The others who were from Hawaii.....well, I was more than willing to buy them a one-way plane ticket back to Hawaii. I really DO want the US to cut Hawaii loose. Who the hell needs/wants Hawaii as a state? We need to raise our standards and ditch that stupid lava rock with its inhabitants!

i agree about leaving Hawaii alone, but dont call us a lava rock. where in New York is there a Jungle with an ACTUAL TREE? where in Los Angelas do i not hear GUNSHOTS and SIRENS? actually America should be thankful because without Hawaii and our sugar, America would still be in the great depression

Actually, the war took America out of the depression. And every response you've had, all you do is list 4 major cities. Are those the only cities that you know to exist on the mainland? It might be. You are a child after all. A 16/17 year old fighting the battle of a lifetime. Defending his beloved island. Seriously, I'm super happy that you love Hawaii so much, but growing up on the mainland is a melting pot of culture. Every state is different. I grew up in the south, then moved all around the U.S., then I came to Hawaii. I don't like it here because it's not my home. That doesn't make me a spoiled haole, that makes me homesick. I respect your culture, but in return I want the same respect that I give. I haven't had that horribly racist experience that everyone else is talking about, I personally don't think it's as intense as they are saying. But maybe that's because I'm nice to everyone? Who knows. All I'm saying is that Hawaii isn't for everyone. Thank god it isn't. O'ahu wasn't meant to carry this many people!

Im happy that you dont wanna live on Hawaii! We have enough disresectful haoles over hear already . You colonizers make me sick !

I was happy as hell, when a psycho coworker moved back to Hawaii. He was a total A-hole, ....kinda like YOU.

Why are you commenting on this thread Manny ? Are you THAT overly sensitive? Get a grip!

Typical island mentality.
Too many haoles over "hear" !

i hear u bro

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Haft of the island is desert. What so beautiful about that? At night the road are so dark because they don't have street light. Yes the beaches are nice. You have to look at the whole picture of Hawaii. Not just the beaches. People that live in Hawaii majority of them are not rich . That is why they grow fruit trees in their backyard .

it's BEAUTIFUL because you get to see nature instead of buildings.
and wouldn't you want to save money by growing plants in your backyard.


California: has wide variety of gang warfare, bullet-holes in building, crazy maniacs, and dying animals due to: herpes, bird flu, animal abuse, and ***********. Hawaii is where America has paradise. California is where America has MS 13

Did I say we were the only ones with nature and trees and mountains? Nope. Learn how to read

***** pleez, 3/4 of the mainland is a desert, frozen wasteland, and ghetto. we grow fruit to show u ignorant mainlanders that we r hard working and that u never worked a day in ur life. I worked my *** off in a Taro patch, sugar field, and hunted boars before! and im 17! so uhhhh yea **** u

The vast majority of Cali is actually insanely beautiful, environmentally friendly, and organic. Now I sound like a hippie. Where's my peace sign? No? Ok.

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My worst family vacation ever. I went to hawaii as married . Went out as separated. Only been here for 3days. Hawaiin people here are so fake. We stay at 5 stars hotel in Maui. They are all money suckers. People pretended to be nice. Saying aloha when they see you .but the only reason they said aloha is because they know you got money. When they see you. They are seeing money signs on your face. Fake hawaii people. Money sucker

how do you know that? are you them no!!!! look I live and love Hawaii. yeah there are ups and downs about this place. and I learned to accept them. and why are you picking at the little things? what about how beautiful the place is?


typical haole. i believe ur "girlfriend" isn't hawaiian cuz being born in hawaii doesnt mean u a hawaiian, but it does mean u r a local. having family of those who work hard, lived well, and became better people because of the challenges we accept, those r hawaiians. haoles like u dont show respect to our aina, people and/or eachother.

Some haoles are dicks. Just like some of every race are dicks. That doesn't mean we are all like that. I'm white and I didn't come to Hawai'i to take over and monopolize. I came here because my husband is stationed here. The only thing I was sad about was no AC. I got over that pretty fast though. Some white people have had hard lives too, ya know. Not all of us are born with a silver spoon.

so what? how do you mainland people get money? oh right, tourist

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So true Hawaii is a mirror, the got no style they copy stuff on t.v. i rather live in somewhere besides Hawaii.. people always say how is it to live in Hawaii, i say boring, expensive, stupid people who speak pigeon, i live here i hate everything. I dont understand why the Hawaiians still argue about their. land its retarded, atleast you can walk outside at night but they might think you're a hooker. i would live anywhere but here. It's the same wherever you go. it'll get boring.

what's wrong with pigeon? everyone speaks differently. and it's expensive compared to the mainland because there's less land compared to the mainland and on the mainland there's unlimited land and Hawaii only has a limited amount.


I agree with you

You think us wanting OUR land back is retarded?! How is it retarded? Its OUR land and if you dont like it so much then WTF were you doing here. Haoles like you make me sick but some actually have hearts and understand our point of view!


civilized? please u took over our lands and forced us to live how we do now. u haoles wanted our land for the sugar. us hawaiians were a great, strong, and proud race, until u haoles came along and took all our power away. we show the mainland friendship and this is how we r rewarded? u taking our lands? i'd rather work hard by rowing a canoe than driving a car like an obese RETARD (American)

LOL I always find it interesting how a disrespectful, racist, savage like yourself can turn around and lash out because people do not see your point of view, Hitler. Want some facts? Hawaiians were ignorant savages in a modern world. While people brandished firearms and steel they used wood; and do not say that they were intelligent, because they \"intelligence\" before missionaries arrived, was comparative to a dog fetching a stick. More truth you say. THE KANAKA VOTED TO REMAIN PART OF AMERICA EVEN THOUGH KAUILANI SUCCEEDED IN ALLOWING THE KANAKA TO VOTE. Swallow the truth about your savage culture, and keep speaking your ignorant broken english language. Now you may resume your hypocritical talk. LOL

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I heard of that Hawaii is a "love-it or hate-it" place, but I agree with you, realaoha, especially about your 3rd statement. I would be more than happy if I can talk about my experience and ask for some advice.

We were so excited to move there, my wife got military orders there and I landed a good job, I was out of there after 8 1/2 months. I paid back a sign-on bonus and couldn't get out of there fast enough. People ask me how I could leave Hawaii - easily. I identify with everything you and each of the other commenters have stated. We went there for a week in 93, and spent a week each Christmas in 05,06,07,08, and 10 - I'd return home and look for jobs there with dreams of moving there. Simply put, vacation in Hawaii is totally different than living there. People there even told me not to but a house until I'd been there 2 years, that is the make or break point for most - glad I listened. Rude people, stupid administrative rules/laws, crazy traffic all the time, crowds, prices, lack of good food, ghettos everywhere - once my wife is out of there, I'm good with never going back. They can keep it.

there a laws because they want people to be safe. isn't it kinda obvious? and there's a lot of traffic because there's like a million+ people on a small island... do you think there would be little cars? same thing for crowds! the prices are big because it costs money to ship the items from wherever to Hawaii so they need to raise the prices to make money.


Because we don't want to get into accidents like how you guys do on the mainland

I have 126 more days here! Then, it's goodbye Hawaii, forever. We're getting married in April and then moving to Miami! Mainland, baby!!!!!!!!!! I cannot wait !!!!

My friends back home are jealous that I get to live in Paradise.... .......When I tell them the real deal, they are in shock and they no longer want to visit here......Hawaii will continue to be backward, behind the rest of the US.... At times I feel like we are living in a third world country...I'm from Eastern Europe, and I've grown up in tough times of the 80s....so I know how tough life can be but never thought that a state of the US could be so different and crappy...I came to Chicago with my family and become a useful member of society: went to a University, got a Bachelor's degree, started working in finance.....I have been in Hawaii since April of 2012......in the past 9 months, we had at least ten unscheduled power outages where we live (Waterfront @ Ewa Beach)......and probably 10 scheduled power outages, where power was out for at least half the day....Hawaii get your **** together and start doing things the "Mainland Way"............I long for the Opera, theater, musicals, ballets, comedy clubs, live music performances, Real sporting events.......I dream of decent prices for groceries here (twice as expensive as Chicago).......126 more days and then I'm gone forever!!!!Woohoooo

Paradise indeed! This place is like a Twilight Zone episode Lol I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy! You're lucky to be going home. As for me, I will be stuck here until the economy improves hmmm.... the rest of life it looks like!

first of all the groceries are expensive because we need to make money for buying and shipping the food. second do you think everywhere you go is perfect? and do you really need electricity when you're living in paradise don't you have a job that you're doing for most of the day. why are you spending your time at your place when you could be doing much more effective things. and do you think we have a lot of money to have ballets, comedy clubs, or sporting events?


learn how to experience something new and try to entertain yourself before going to places where you spend your money for other people to entertain you. so lazy

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I've lived here for ten years and feel like I'm suffocating. We also live in one of the worst neighborhoods on the island of Oahu which surely doesn't help matters! It's really bad here and I feel angry, depressed and bitter about it all. I can relate to what you write and at least you were able to go back home whereas I am stuck. No jobs hiring on the mainland with this dismal economy. I want to move to Arizona and get out of here ASAP!

If anyone is stuck here like I am and needs support. Write Me!

I moved to Hawaii only because I was accepted by the graduate school at the University of Hawaii with a job. However, my professor no longer offered me that position, and I later found out that they didn't have the researches and studies they originally posted (later the professor that I wanted to worked left my school). I have been very frustrated and angry. Now I am neither dead nor alive in my department and look very hard on new opportunities everywhere.

Arizona...sounds like a good place and I applied for some jobs there. Good luck.

If you have a Bachelor Degree, you can teach English in Korea or Japan, S. Korea will pay for your airticket over and they provide housing. That's how I managed to get the hell out of Hawaii and haven't looked back since.

I feel the same way about everything you've written here......Luckily, I get to leave around May of this year...been living here since April of 2012. Once I leave, I am never coming back here again

I agree with you 100%. My husband is military and got stationed here. I abhor this place. The cost of living is outrageous, and I hate when people (usually Hawaiian) tell me it's the cost of living in paradise. This is not paradise. I was able to find an ok job, better pay than most and from a respected company here, but the pay still doesn't coincide with the cost of living. Hawaiians are lazy , proud (and that baffles me cause wtf are they proud of?), always expecting handouts. Their english is disgusting and the only ones I have met that I get along with agree with me and hate this place even thought they were born here. It's too hot. The drivers are THE WORST I have ever seen! The beach looks nice but that's about it. There is nothing to do here. No good museams, amusement park, boardwalks even, no good theaters, shopping is terrible here and honestly I have eaten at ONE restaurant here that I would return to. There is a crazy insane homeless problem here and I hear these idiots saying it's because the mainland shipped their homeless here.....I'm calling bullshit on that! 90% of the homeless people I see are hawaiian! People think Hawaii is beautiful ha! Only a few parts are gorgeous. Look at filthy nasty places like Kalihi and Waianae. Gross. All in all, I hate this place, I agree with you 100% and I got a year and a half til I'm out of here and will never return. My husband and I are counting the days to get away from this dirty rock and its useless stupid lazy occupants and return to our home state where there is normal civilization. I hope your journey here gets better and if not I invite you to come out to Northern VA, where there's shopping , restaurants, literally 5 mins to dc and all its museams, and Baltimore Harbour. I have never been bored there, TONS of things to do oh and the job market is unbelievable with great public transportation so you can work in VA, MD, or DC. Also we appreciate educated people with degrees who speak proper english. Three of the richest counties in the nation are in NOVA but your job will actually pay you well so you can afford a nice place. Unlike this horrible rock where a studio can be 1500 and you barely make that in a month! So come out and see and do whatever you can to get out of here, ut will drain you, depress you, and eventually make you give up hope. Being in Hawaii is like bring in the mainland in 1999. So slow and backwards here. Sorry this was long but I needed to vent! Best wishes to you and good luck!

the cost is bad because there is little land compared to the mainland where they could keep building where Hawaii has a limited amount of land. same reason for the no amusement parks.

Ilovehawaii, I must say, every post you've written has been the most respectful and informative things you could possibly say even though people are harping on your home. Touche, good buddy. Keep it up.

Amen. That's the real "Aloha." I stopped here to rest for a little while on my way back to NorCal after a year of traveling all over Asia, India, and Australia. I've found this to be the most unwelcoming place I've been anywhere on earth, by far (I've been in all the U.S. states and over fifty countries.) Hawaii is a mecca for ignorance and ill will. You really summed up the situation well for me when you said "Never have I experienced a group of such self rightous people who expect others to be so beholden to them, yet claim the reason why they dislike "outsiders" is because they are arrogant. I find simply being kind and open is the way to go, always." For sure, for sure: Openness and kindness are taken as an invitation for unkindness and disrespect in return here. This really is a crappy place, full of ridiculous people ... and better scenery can be found elsewhere. Maholo, but No Maholo! Thanks for your thoughtful post.

Kinda how I felt when I lived in the northeast - a nice place to visit, but didn't like living there. Sucky locals. And in northern Mass. Wow. NOTHING to do; no major cities, no sports teams. BLAH.

I'm from there... could have shown you a real great time...

I know exactly how you feel, and I'm still here. Don't know for how much longer, though. It's a cultural wasteland outside of a couple of museums and a few galleries. And they can't even get off their ***** to vote!