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Yes.  This is a terrible country to live in or even travel to for that matter.  Let me say that I never write posts but I feel so strongly about this and was comforted by hearing the stories of other like-minded people.  Australia truly sucks.

I'm a Canadian who's been living here on and off (mostly off, gratefully) for over ten years.  This time i've been back for just over two years and just when I thought this dump couldn't get any worse, it could.  My wife is Australian (they do create very good looking women) and tight with her family so we've come back.  

The blank stares.  The timid, angry looks people give.  The complete lack of having a decent conversation with one of them, providing you can engage them in the first place.  I could go on forever!  I've become a biggot living here as I now have a real dislike for Australians as a nation; here and abroad.

Australians seem like they're all on Lithium.  They have this vacant look in their eyes and don't seem to listen when spoken to.  Perhaps that's why they're so  unreliable.  No one reads here or strives to better their understanding of the world around them.  I've never been anywhere else like it.  It's like some giant science experiment gone wrong.  They frequently go on about what a great country Australia is but there's no merrit behind.

Australians are viewed by the international community as racist, uncooth and non-consequential, and if they were more open minded towards excepting constructive criticism, they might have a chance of evolving with the rest of us.  Have any of you ever been told defensivley by an Aussie (True Blue!) to 'go home' for voicing you opinion?  I bet you have.  Now, can you think of any other country where you've experienced that?  Can you imagine?  It says alot about the level of intolerance here.  And that in turn says a lot about the Nation.

And, for all of this: the honor of them allowing you to live in their country, you have to pay through the nose!  Australia is really over-priced - from food (wow, are they kidding?), to real estate.  Australians are proud underacheivers and happy to accept the reward for someone elses work.  The stores sell inferior products for outrageous prices and  everyone just blindly pays.  It's crazy!  No one cares about anything here except for themselves which makes for a boring, uncultured, mollified, apathetic place.  Monopolies, Duopolies, super corrupt government; Australia is a willing police state.

Australia awards incompetence and overpays it's population for even the most menial of jobs making goods and services wildly expensive.  It will cost you big for even simple pleasures like going out for coffee ($4) or a cafe meal ($15-$30).  There are no diners or greasy spoons or 24 hr breakfast places or delis where you can grab a cheap bite!  Your only options are disgusting meat pies or nasty freezer to deep fryer chiko rolls or whatever shich are also overpriced and served with a sneer.

I could go on and on.  Let me say that  this is a very general outlook and of course I have close family and freinds here that I respect greatly, but, I have lived in a few countries and travelled to many more and as a whole THIS COUNTRY SUCKS!  And, a country is defined by it's people.  I mean 'whites only' policy into the 70's?  I mean, come on.  What more is there to say?  Get out if you can and if your already out don't come.  

On a lighter note, enjoy the illiterate, grammarically incorrect, spelling error ridden, foul mouthed responses the Aussies give to this post.  I heartily enjoy reading the uneducated Aussie posts.  Even the newspapers here can't spell.  A French friend said to me once when asked what he thought Australia said: "It's a glass of Coke".  I think of it more like a loaf of Wonderbread.

 
 


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In 1989 I moved to Australia from New York. Married an Aussie who I met in London (he was unwilling to move to NY so I moved here). We were together for 13 years, it didn't work out (him being lazy and his priorities being his sports, his job, his parents, etc. meant the kids and I were at the bottom of his ladder. He promised me the world, but what I got was a life-time of bad luck stories here. He wouldn't let me move back to the U.S. with the kids, so I continued to live here, waiting patiently until my youngest turns 18 next year so I can take him with me without being charged with international kidnapping or spending $30,000 in court and 3 years to get permission from his dad.

I have worked full-time during my 24 years here, paid my taxes, never was on the dole, I love Footy, meat pies, miss the 24 hour diners, made some great friends, travelled alot, had a lot of misfortunes with some lazy Aussies who were quite happy to take advantage of my kindess. Got ripped off by a con artist, survived two divorces, childhood diabetes with my oldest, autism with my youngest, battling on every day with Crohn's disease, found supportive people, dumb, lazy, mean and unfriendly people, but came across intelligent, wonderful, kind hearted people. Its a mixed bag like everywhere else, you have good people/bad people. The best is when someone outright hates me just because I am American and they don't take 2 mins to get to know me. Happened a few times, not many, but very hurtful.

My biggest frustration is in the workplace. The tally poppy syndrome! I work so hard, I run circles around our team, who come into the workplace everyday to socialise, text, do on-line shopping while I am doing the work of 2 full-timers. The Australians do not like to acknowledge this because I am not one of them. They like to put me down, keep me down, keep me quiet. My boss even told me to take it easy, don't work so hard, relax for 6 months, I have already kicked enough goals. Its okay, I know how to play the game. Every time I visit the USA and come back here I slip right back into my Aussie life, being a listener, not a big mouth, know it all as they think we are. I bite my tongue and tell them what they want to hear. Just being patient and counting down my days here.

I look forward to returning to my home-land next year. I have made a a few great friends here and I will miss them but I had heaps of struggles that I won't miss. I can't wait to be reunited with my family and be surrounded by unconditional love and support.

I will never forget that I cried every day for the first two years of being here simply because I found the majority of people to be so unfriendly when all I wanted was to make 1 friend. Is it so hard to just smile or wave hello.

I am so supportive to people I meet who just moved here, regardless of their background because I will never forget how hard it was for me in the beginning. We are all people, we are all human and it doesn't take too much to be welcoming, friendly, helpful.

Is it so hard to just smile or wave hello. EXACTLY ! why do so many ozzies find that so hard to do ? Lack of eye contact and lack of warmth. As for a normal meaningful conversation .....................

Good luck going back ! I wish you all the best, I am sure it will be fine ! You will be able to breath in again deeply and feel alive ! It's a great feeling ! :)

I'm fifth generation Australian and I actually know what you mean, I've found English, Canadian and French people, who I've met over here, much more friendly and open. Much easier to be with. I grew up in rural Australia and I've always found country Australians much friendlier, the type of people who will smile and greet a stranger. The towns people are another matter though, they can be so gossipy and standoffish....I don't know about other countries but I know that people here can be very mean.
I find some of the posts from other Australians just awful, they seem to be justifying your disappointment in Australia. It may depend on where you go though because I find Brisbane people much nicer and I've been told that Melbourne's immigrant Greek and Italian communities are very warm and welcoming compared to Sydney.
By the way I've been told by my English friends that I'm very well spoken for an Australian and I've been told by my Australian friends that I speak posh, which made them think I was "up myself" :\

Sydney is amazing I've got mates from Lebanon and Vietnam and Greece and Croatia and of course Australians , my problem with the people that hate it here is the predjuctice rhetoric they use to justify there points. I've heard from these fools we are the mist racist country on earth and devoid of culture and the list goes on its the voice of shallow ignorance of the world we live in and an excuse for the horrible reality they created through there mind set and attitude , most of these people wouldnt be happy anywhere that's why they left there perfect countries.

You and your compadres wouldn't know what it missing in this soulless shtthole if it hits ya over the head! :)))

One thing for sure its got one big giant piece of **** in it, its name is upyours01=moron=retard=*****.

Are you hitting on me again?

No way, it was like throwing a sausage up a hall way last time you bent over for me, that spankerr guy that you sleep with really made a mess of your *** huh ?

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Canadian eh ?
I lived there for 4 years and was disgusted by the homeless population ; you couldnt even walk down the street without getting harassed for money, cigarettes etc..just filth but I guess its closely related to the massive drug problem and lackadaisical approach to open drug use and sales.
The greasy spoon diners you refer to are sweat shops paying 8$ an hour for adult employees and expecting the customer to tip the server for bringing your food that you already paid too much for, it seems strange you dislike the greasy food here maybe its the trans fats you miss .
I met a few Canadians that were ok my wife is one and I must say the Canadian guys make it real easy to look good , I was inundated with beaver when they hear my accent and see that I'm not a whinning little b I t c h like all Canadian men ( see above poster) they are all over you.
Speaking of outdated policy how was that jail set up in Vancouver for Japanese immigrants in ww2, also the way the first nation people were and still are treated is abhorrent but you morons that move country and stay and be unhappy are really good at hypocrisy ...no doubt eh

upyours, if you can be bothered to read his posts, it is plain that there is a paranoid delusional disorder.

Good old deleting your posts just like your poofter mate upyours01....lol.weak.

Hey this is right what i think and yes you are right

Wow. I am Australian and I can see where you are coming from in your post. I sometimes find my neighbours rude and, from time to time, can be shocked by the things I hear on the train. I do not however, think this is not a true reflection of Australia. I am not sure where you stayed when you were in Australia but am assuming, like most travellers, in the Eastern suburbs. If you went out to the Kensingtons and Essendons and Brunswicks of Melbourne you would have found a different story. We have people in Australia who are deep thinkers and pushing for a better world. We have protests against Asylum Seeker Policy and weekly political forums 'question time on abc' where those interested talk about politics on a National and International scale. Victoria has fast forward policy for disability and the City of Melbourne had a majority vote for the Greens in the last federal election. If you Google Adam Brandt Greens you will find that his party have some really forward thinking policy agendas. I think the Australia you saw was a result of having a negative attitude and not venturing and looking for the great in Australia.

Work a full time job living under a bridge the norm in this country come home at the end of a 40 hour week and not even have 40 cents to call your own meanwhile whilst people are selling up their multimillion$ property portfolios built on the foundation of arrogant soulless unconcionable inhumane greed capatalism and corruption and on the grassroot foundations and principals that noone gives a **** about anyone else .So much for your family getting a fair go as this so called lucky country

Two phrases, or mantras, as I prefer to call them, will be repeatedly heard regarding Australians and Australia. The mantras are “laid back and easy going” and “the best country in the world”.

To anybody having spent their formative years in Australia, these mantras take on an almost incomprehensible significance within their psyche. The mantras have been heard so often by the Australian that they create within the individual a sense of self assured certainty and smug confidence that they are indeed ”easy going and laid back people” who are “living the dream” in the “best country in the world”. It becomes part of their very existence and a “given” that Australia is indeed the “best country in the world” and is inhabited by “laid back and easy going” people. The endless indoctrination could even be compared with the unquestioning acceptance of certain “facts” by a religious group.

When any discussion arises which may lead to a questioning of the accuracy of these mantras, then the response from the indoctrinated Australian is quite predictable. They frequently become abusive, aggressive and angry. The response is frequently quite the opposite of “laid back and easy going” and could be compared with the attitude of a religious fanatic who has been presented with a point of view that may question, or, does not coincide with, his religious indoctrination.

In addition, the questioning or invitation to view the mantras from a humourous perspective also invokes rage from the indoctrinated Aussie. This is a similar response to the reactions of extreme religious groups when humour is used to invite discussion of their doctrines.

Again and again in this forum we have seen examples of this type of angry, aggressive, irrational and humourless response to any point of view which may question or invite discussion regarding the mantras that Australians are “laid back and easy going” or that Australia is the “best country in the world”.

Case in point.
You are like the narcissistic egotistical murderer that insists on being cross examined to prove his innocence only to completely convince the jury of your guilt.
Thanks wankerr

Hi there. <br />
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I am Australian (and very proud to be from here) and I have also travelled extensively throughout North America, Europe and Asia. Your post was really disappointing to read because it was so rude and quite frankly - not true. Australia IS a wonderful country and we have some incredible people here. I work really hard at my job and at my studies. It is ridiculous to say that we are all under achievers and happy to take the credit for someone else's work. It's fine if you don't like it here but I wish you wouldn't make such cruel, untrue statements. It smacks of arrogance, ignorance, lack of insight and empathy. <br />
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We are not ill educated or thick, as this post makes us out to be. In fact, your own post has many spelling and grammatical mistakes. So perhaps you should address those before you slam other people down. <br />
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Your post is full of harsh generalisations. Australian culture is different to Canadian. It's sad that you couldn't break away from what you know and embrace something different. <br />
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Australia is not defined by its people. It is defined by its landscape as well. It is a rich, beautiful, sparse country. I'm not sure where in Australia you have been but perhaps you need to visit more of it. <br />
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I'm not going to bother writing more but I am truly saddened that you feel this way.

Your wasting your time, these people are the epitome of racism and discrimination traits brought from the homeland that hopefully they will return soon.

Hey don't you think you Australian you are pop Australia doesn't belong to you belongs to Aboriginal Australians,you are just a convict

Hey, get ******* ed....I am aboriginal d I c k h e a d

Your not my bro , filthy pommy bastad.
My adversary is anyone that CHOOSES to come to my country and expect it to change into the sh it place from where they came...pommy scum

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Left Australia about a month ago and I feel so relieved. The 3 years I spent there were such a nightmare. Don't want to see that place ever again. All the bs about "the lucky country" and all that is a big, fat lie.

Thankyou so much for leaving, its people like you that fill me with hope that Australia can rid itself of all ungrateful self entitled whinging free loader immigrants.

You are talking a lot about yourself; - kinda funny! :))

I know you are but what am I ?
Your kinda cute :)))

hey, heeeey, pull up ya ******! Are'ya hitting on me now?
Shut up or I'll tell your boyfriend!

Oh a homophobe aswel as racist and prejudice don't act all offended your a filthy pommy of course you love the d I c k, you can't get enough of it, look at your screen name you love it .I hope spankerr knows your flirting with me you could get in big trouble ...lol....xxoxoxo

Hey the only true Australians are Aboriginal. And who build Australia Europeans people while Aussie White people doll badges drink and drugs.

Hahaha ...is it a prerequisite to be an assuming presumptuous racist to not like living in Australia ? At least spankerr pretends to be intelligent you are just pathetic.

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Also reading through responses people please don't feel the need to correct people's gramma who obviously have taken English as a second language because you just prove this guys point even more and I applaud anyone who voices their opinion.

The worst grammar usually comes from the true blue Ozzie. Semi literate, illogical and garbled responses is the standard usually displayed.

While that may be true you and your ilk that move to a country by choice then complain about it instead of leaving because its not like the s h it hole you came from represent the moronic cockroach of society element that is thankfully a small proportion of immigrants that come to Australia.

My point proven :)

Yes you proved mine.

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I was born in Australia with a Maltese and South African background (white ) and while I admit Australian people can be very racist and pretty much retards I would like to also point out that at least we have opportunities in life it isn't so bad my family migrated for a reason and that was a better life and if they received it that's all that matters. Just give us Aussies that try some credit.

Honestly that's the nicest thing I've ever heard from a south African(white).

wow glad i read others with the same opinion. I just finished 2 months of travelling throughout Australia. I am from Europe and always heard great stories. Well, I realized quickly everything you just said. In my experience and opinion, I found Australia a copy of the United States, and I know Aussies do not like to hear this. Look at the history, mining, the lower class, poor, Europeans, etc. Now look where Australia is today. I have hardly heard any intellectual conversation. It seems they do not like to discuss things that go on around the world, and all live their Australian dream. I found Melbourne and Sydney pretty boring. Melbourne is a pot hole that is too crowded, and Sydney just seems too calm for me. Now, don't get me wrong. I think Australia has a lot to offer, it is beautiful. But I disagree with those who think Australia is HEAVEN or PARADISE. This is also because the divide between the poor and rich is getting bigger. The government does invest enough in infrastructure, and to get a professional job and get sponsored seems almost impossible now for Europeans. Taking in account that they help the Brits, so that many Aussies can work long term back in the UK. I know we have issues with racism in Europe, but Australia is still behind in time, and I 've heard so much negative racism from lots of Aussies, especially towards Abboriginals. Perhaps people don't want to accept, that Abboriginals were first humans on Australian continent, then the Dutch came (I am from Holland), and the Britis like they did in the USA, took over. That's just my 2 cents.

Will be interesting to see how the morons will react to this post!

If only we had the drug problems murders and a homeless problem out of control you would of felt more at home, my wife's Canadian and your cuntry ( intended) makes good beaver but we couldn't wait to leave Canada and live in Australia, the only thing I miss is the snow.

I moved in Australia one year ago. I came from Greece and the reason why I returned to Melbourne is because my father is Australian and I thought why not?! Living in Australia is so ******* bad. The place itself feels boring LOTS and there is nothing to do but shopping. No special events, nothing new. The weather is plain nasty. Hate it. Making new friends is impossible. People seem nice but are cold. Finding a good job is IMPOSSIBLE. I wish I had known and never came here. Now I have lost my perfect job I had back in Greece and I am stack in a very boring place. Australia is fun only for Asians because their countries are ****** up. If you live in Europe or USA, stay away by any costs.

Yeah Greece is doing great..lmfao

Everything said is absolutely correct. I'm an Australian citizen with an ethnic background and ethnic sounding name. After living 27 years in Australia I was fed up with the arrogant, unintelligent, racist, foul mouthed, self righteous and ingnorant Aussies (just describing the average Aussie). I realised that in my 27 years I didnt have any Aussie friends. All of my mates were ethnic Aussies.

I moved to the UK on a 2 year visa and my eyes were opened. Immediately I felt accepted in a truly multicultural country (always felt as a second rate citizen in Oz despite being an educated professional). In the UK people treat each other with respect and are polite. They tend to keep their racial opinions to themselves and the place is full of culture and history. I've made so many British friends here in 2 years and have had so many job opportunities.

The sad part....as my visa is now finished I have to return to boganville. I'm devastated (devo). After reading this forum I'm remembering all the reasons why I hated living in Australia so much in the first place (rude bogans with bad hygeine and also the cost of living is crazy).

I've reached out to employment agencies in Oz and they say my experience is great but the clients want someone with local experience. When I tell them I'm an Australian citizen with 6 years professional experience in Aus they say they want someone with "recent" local experience. I've never heard of this phenomenon! I know that it's purely because of my ethnic sounding name. Uk and US strongly value global experience for multinational companies but not little old Oz.

Australia is good in some ways (good weather, beaches, nice house, a few decent Aussies) but overall the average Aussie is a very rude, arrogant, racist, low IQ person who thinks they're superior to every other nationality, but still cant string together a proper sentence.

I think Aussies need to put aside their egos and look at their culture/attitudes critically. And maybe learn a thing or two about other cultures. Also remove the F*** Off We're Full stickers from their cars because Australia is clearly not full. It just lacks infrastructure, but that's another story.

Also, what's with the no shoes thing? I mean seriously, walking around the streets with no shoes? It's like they get dressed in the morning and lose all motivation when they get to their feet.

I feel sorry :( Prepare yourself again for all this boring situation. :(

Its not because your ethnic, I've got more wog mates than Australian mates the reason you have no Australian friends is because your a d I c k h e a d

Nice one Rob!
Lets say I am a d***head for arguements sake. By your logic a d***head can make plenty of good mates of various cultures (european, american, middle eastern, asian) but no Australian mates. But only a non-d***head can make Australian mates? By that logic it sounds like the only d***head in the global community is the Australian. Namely you.

Case in point, d I c k h e a d. Lets just say you are and leave it at that.

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Having lived here a while I find Australians can be a rude and arrogant racist bunch.Also like to some how think they are better than you, , Australia is so far behind the rest of the world. When it comes to sport to they can get quite arrogant but then cry like sore losers when they loose,

Since I was born in Australia it's like the Buddha said: life is a great misfortune, and I would like to move one-way ticket to France. The people in Australia say painful things and they don't leave room for the ideal world. I didn't get any misfortune in Kenya, in fact I act on the Roman virtues, pretending to agree with people but with Australians you shouldn't be talking to anyone. I might be exaggerating but I'd rather live in the bush where suburbians and city-dwellers can't act like ignorant fools. Australians think they're wise people and a few times they called me a fool, that's not hurtful, but it's not like it's a compliment. When I'm courteous it's only my friends that tell me I'm very polite, the rest of the people call me rude. Every time I wear green or wear my hat the wrong way then go outdoors to wear it the right way I get a tad of misfortune, and apparently all the misfortune happened in Australia. This is a Christian country and this religion has ruined my life, they said I was about to go to hell, but I'm not Christian like them. Australians are unfriendly, angry and want to be left alone, I can't communicate with them, you get a lot of anti-intellectuals and they keep calling me stupid, idiot, insane, crazy, dumb, it's not true, sometimes I just want to, I won't go there.

I have been living in Mel for a year now and it is just BAD as you describe. I do hate most australians, so bitchy and losers.

I'm a french Canadian and I agree that Australia is a backward country with so many dumbs people out there. They are just like poors Americans ... located in the Pacific South, uncouths and with no maners ... OZ is really not a powerful country, only 23 000 000 citizens, technologicaly retarded in comparison with Canada (which is a member of the G7 (world economic powerest nations) ALENA, NATO) and the rest of the OECD, there is culture in Canada and we are proud to be what we are (the most envied nation in the world with Germany). Down under, the temperature can be great (for some people) but what about the F****** rest ? I just can't find anything else. I wouldn't change my country for this deep lost whole, I prefer snow with smarts , in shape and educated citizens. Canada ranks among the most prosperous countries in the world and will be part of the three wealthiest countries (PND per capita) by 2020 (currently the 10th). Innovation in OZ sucks so much ! We, Canadians have the canadarm technology (space), Bombardier (Aerospace: trains and planes), BlackBerry, widespread high speed internet available all over the country, etc. In sums we have the feeling to be part of the (real) advanced world, OZ are so isolated down under with others backward countries not too far from there ! BTW: Sorry for grammar mistakes, english is not my first language.

and how do Canadians rank for modesty ? It's not looking good so far.

You have to admit that he is mostly right thou! :)

French Canadian arrogant and superior ? Stereo type personafied even Canadians hate the French canadians

Im a canadian living here too, married to an aussie girl and couldnt agree with you more.

I am always amazed at the way in which Aussies claim to be the only people with 'spirit'. Utter crap. Try watching other countries and their issues with natural disasters and emergencies and the way in which they come together with 'human spirit'. The biggest myth of them all? Anzac Day!! The Aussies were the only ones there apparently in what was a complete military disaster. Reports from Aussie troops on the ground that were hidden from public view so that the population could be 'sold' the 'spirit' with which this day is ridiculously supposed to honor. There were more Brits, French and Indians at that location and for longer with higher casualties. Get over yourselves Australia, realise and accept that your an infant in the worlds eyes, an infant with a bad attitude and who throws its toys out of the pram just because it can't accept that its the western worlds own third world experiment!

Where is their ******* spirit? They are so stupid!

I think we can all plainly see that the "grammarical" error is a simple typo. This is quite different from the average Aussies inability to distinguish betwixt there, their and they're or any number of other errors that cannot be picked up by a spell checker. Note that he indignant Aussie below, has, true to form, expressed insult and derision in an attempt to discredit the poster who has upset the hypersensitive Aussie by posting an experience which contradicts the "mantras and indoctrination"
http://www.experienceproject.com/stories/Hate-Living-In-Australia/3125820
In the qwerty keyboard, the r is next to the t.

Hahaha. Betwixt again..one trick pony

I'd just like to point out that while I was reading this, I was grimacing at the multiple grammatical errors you made. I think the icing on the cake was when you said you expected "grammarical" errors in replies from Australians. My Australian pinky finger is more literate than your Canadian narrow mind.

An other grammatical genius unable to comprehend anything that isn't dogmatically correct from a closed minded robotic mindset.

I am not a self-proclaimed grammatical genius. As an American who has lived in the UK and Australia as well, I also certainly am not close-minded. There were some valid points raised in this argument, but complaining about illiterate Australians using that standard of English is a massive contradiction.

It is not the poster's English grammar that is sub standard. It is his typing skills and occasionally his spelling. He nevertheless displays a much better grasp of grammatically correct English than do the majority of Aussies who have posted in this forum. Incidentally, close means nearby. Closed means shut. Correct English in this case is closed. But then maybe it is that Aussie pinky finger that is causing all the problems and is typing away all on its own, not listening to anybody, not even the American who has an Australian pinky finger.

It is more the case of the "Stinky finger" Down-Under! :)

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Hi there. I grew up in Toronto and now live in Perth, where I lecture at The University of WA. A few things you have mentioned are true and some others are false. Let's start with some of the fallacies of your argument:
Your final paragraph reads,
"enjoy the illiterate, grammarically incorrect, spelling error ridden, ..."
Here is an expose of your spelling and grammar.
1. "Excepting?" No such a word. You obviously mean "accepting".
2. "Uncouth", not "uncooth".
3. "Bigot", not "biggot".
4. "Merit", not "merrit".
5. "Under-achievers", not "achievers"
6. "Else's", not "elses"
7. "Overpays it's population?" You mean "its". "It's" is a contraction of "it is".
8. "Friends", not "freinds"
9. You keep on writing "it's" instead of "its". Remember, "it's" is a contraction of "it is" , not the possessive of "it".
10. You also write "your" when "you're" is correct. "You're" is a contraction of "you are". "Your", on the other hand, is the possessive of "you", e.g. "your national pride."
The amazing thing is that my spell-checker wouldn't even ALLOW me to make most of these errors.
I think you must realise by now that you made a lot of spelling and grammar errors in a short article. The errors are not just typos.
You consistently make two mistakes typical of children in late primary school and early high school: "it's/its" and "your/you're". I would guess that you probably have the same problem with "there/their/they're".
You have raised some good points about Australia (a lot of Australians are rude and lazy and it's too expensive here), but you ruin it by accusing Australians of having terrible grammar and spelling. Obviously, you come across as an uneducated and ignorant hypocrite. As for the White Australia Policy, it was forty years ago. Australia is not a racist country anymore by international standards. In fact, it's one of the only countries in the world where racial vilification is illegal. Legislation changes behaviour.
Australia is a very stratified country and my concern is that you haven't chosen to live in a nice, middle-class area. I don't see meat pies on the menu in any of the (over-prices) places I eat but they are on the menu in the lunch bars in the industrial areas. I must say that when I was in Toronto in January, the prices were great but after leaving a 20% tip, they worked out the same as Australia.

Thank yooou for tha lekturre!
Aij hope we doonet haffe to paj youei, and Yaou are nod asking fore a 20% tippe aitherr.
Yaou velly velly luckey man, spicka di Engliis perrfeketelly.
Molto bene raggazi!

My god you are pathetic. All your reply is capable of is not picking on somebody's grammar. Its hardly constructive is it? I got bored reading your reply and I'm sure most others did as well, but the little I did read coincided with the suggestion Aussie don't pay attention when spoken to. Somebody is giving criticism about something and all your thinking off is their grammar and spelling. What a useless waste of life you are. Are you a bogan chance?

Awesome!! Good work

why does this brilliant article not appear in the main page for "I hate living in Australia". Are they leaving out all the old stories ?

You ******* sook. Go back to Canada.

Another bogan... Its you they're complaining about. Crawl back under your log poofter.

u bogan dog ****** go **** ur ***** dog of a ***** mother

I've lived in Australia my whole life and agree with whole-heartedly with every part of this post. I was born here and have lived here my whole life and in my opinion it's the worst country in the world. I'm still young, but I'm planning to move to America (for good) as soon as possible, and am looking at places in California.

Australians definitely have the lithium look, for the most part they are indeed proud underachievers who have an aversion to hard work. They don't want to achieve anything for themselves but if they see someone else who's made it they'll lose an arm and a leg to try to bring them down.

Also, they're generally quite dumb. Conversations seem to lack substance and they honestly do look like zombies. I hate this ****** country and can't wait til I move to America, land of the free and home of the brave, I'm also going to become a citizen.

100% true!!!

Have you been to America??? High crime, bad education system, poverty, GM food, TSA, ignorant and arrogant people, list goes on!!!!! I'm 14 years old and mixed race, born in America and living in Australia (though moving to Singapore soon!), I've never experienced racism and I'm friends with many races, I have Australian (white Australian and Aboriginal), Chinese, Japanese, Indian, Korean, Sri Lankan, Vietnamese, Russian and Middle Eastern friends and no conflict. Really the only racist, homophobic and xenophobic uneducated people are bogans which I'm saying aren't common!! Though xenophobia is common because Australians are worried immigrants are going to take 'our jobs' ignoring the fact that even white people like my dad are also 'taking their jobs'!

Yes food is expensive but at least it's not genetically modified!!!!!!! Real estate is damn expensive!!! Their should be a lot more higher density housing in cities or it's just going to turn into LA. Public transportation also needs whole lot more improvement. If you look at Europe or cities like Hong Kong, Singapore or Tokyo in Asia, because of high density housing, transportation can be more frequent and better unlike in the outer suburbs of big cities in Australia where it can take 30 minutes to an hour for a bus or train.

"Australians seem like they're all on Lithium. They have this vacant look in their eyes and don't seem to listen when spoken to. Perhaps that's why they're so unreliable. No one reads here or strives to better their understanding of the world around them. I've never been anywhere else like it. It's like some giant science experiment gone wrong. They frequently go on about what a great country Australia is but there's no merit behind." I somewhat agree with you though you basically just described America in my opinion, LAND OF THE FREE AND THE HOME OF THE BRAVE!!!

You really can't generalize about a country of over 20 million people like I shouldn't be of a country of over 300 million people (we may not be quite at the same level lol) but I'm really intrigued to know where this occurred cause I haven't really seen this in Canberra or Melbourne.

Haha...well, it's been just under a year since we moved to Oz and I have to say your post is hilarious. One of the things my wife and I did within the first week of arriving here was create our own "things that are annoying about Australia". I admit, a lot of it is fairly superficial, but the list was created in just a matter of minutes. Guess we are spoiled being from the UK... For your enjoyment, had to delete a couple that were a little too mean...
Annoying things about Australia:
1. No customer toilets in city establishments
2. Crappy television and radio programming
3. Insanely overpriced automobiles/crap financing
4. Pricey food with Woolworth's/Cole's duopoly
5. Minimal healthy/organic/locally sourced/regulated fresh eating options
6. **** poor mobile phone coverage
7. Expensive housing market with 1970s house styles
8. Half car/half truck Ford Falcons that look ridiculous
9. Far away/expensive to get to Europe and North America
10. Fashion and cars feel like you are living in the 90s
11. Preponderance of dangerous wildlife
12. Listening to the radio is like going back at least ten years
13. Trademark issues...Target is not really Target...Kmart not Kmart, etc
15. Junk food everywhere
16. Ranked 2nd for quality of life but yet has compulsory voting, Aboriginal issues, brain drain, highest skin cancer rates, one of worlds worst CO2 polluters
18. Christmas in 100 degree heat
22. Mel Gibson born here
23. Tap water tastes like dirt and bottle water extremely expensive
24. Wifi is hit or miss...usually capped or pay out the nose
25. No granola cereal just crap called Sanitarium and baked muesli
26. Schools not as good as other countries unless go private
27. Economy based on non-renueable resources/Chinese investment
28. 20 million people crammed into 3 or 4 major cities
29. World's safest child safety restraint system not "legal" here until 2013
30. No high speed rail
31. Salt, lots and lots of salt
32. Lack of hygienic restrooms...ie no soap
33. Utes
34. No good family restaurants or pubs...not very family friendly
35. No Amazon.au
36. $15 for a pint of beer!
37. Roy and HG...didn't know these two existed until we tried to watch live winter Olympic coverage...oh and some show called biggest loser...yeah, I'd much rather watch that than see the world's nations compete live in one of the greatest sporting events of the year...sheesh (okay, we just added that one)

22. No. Mel Gibson was born in the United States. He spent a few years in Australia as a teenager and young man.

23. Tap water, at least in western Sydney tastes like it's come from the swimming pool. Too much chlorine.

8emma, I think your response demonstrates clearly the point made by another poster. The point was that Australians take everything personally. There is a hypersensitivity and readiness to take offence and to leap to the defence when any discussion is raised which does not laud each and every aspect of life in an over regulated, conformist and self centred society. Much of your response above demonstrates conformist thinking in line with the accepted norms for someone of your age who has been educated in Australia. There are politically correct doctrines sprinkled throughout your post, seasoned with a flavour of indignant outrage.

These observations regarding "The blank stares. The timid, angry looks people give." "The complete lack of having a decent conversation with one of them, providing you can engage them in the first place." and "don't seem to listen when spoken to." are exceptionally accurate and apparent to anybody who has lived outside of Australia for any length of time.

I'm Australian, and I spent five years studying to become a dentist. I hope I'm educated enough to never make such offensive remarks as you have done. You're generalizing about the attitudes and intelligence of 21 million people. Need I explain the hypocrisy?

On another note, You misspelled merit. Also in your second last paragraph you used "your" instead of "you're" when advising people not to come to Australia... that quite negates the point of your last paragraph, doesn't it? I suggest you worry about your own literacy.

I think it should be "as you have made" not "as you have done" .......... Anyway, most Australians don't know the difference between their, there and they're, never mind your and you're. So, well spotted ..... mate. However, the minor spelling errors do not negate the points being made by the writer. The remarks may offend one who is sensitive to criticism. To other people, who do not take things personally, they may simply be accurate observations. http://www.experienceproject.com/stories/Hate-Living-In-Australia/3125820

Hahaha! That serves me right for writing in anger and not proofreading. It’s probably the same mistake the author made. Well done.

I actually agree with a lot of the points the author made about the political side. His comments about the cost of living, real estate, government corruption, even error-riddled newspapers (now I’m being hypocritical) are views I hold myself. However, I’ve had no formal training in economics or global politics so my opinions on such matters are completely valueless.

Nevertheless, criticising a country’s government and policy is completely different to encouraging prejudice against a population. That is what I find offensive. The Australia part of it is unimportant. You could replace “Australian” with “Asian”, “homosexual”, “deaf”, “Canadian” or “the poor” and it’s equally offensive. Treating or viewing a person with fear, contempt, or disdain based on their national origin is bigotry. I don’t care if you’ve lived in China for ninety years and hated every person you’ve encountered. That is not justification for disliking any other Chinese person you meet in the future, or for making discriminatory remarks about the population as a whole.

The author even suggests that a nation’s people can be defined by the attitudes of previous governments. Is he implying that people can be judged by the actions of their predecessors, years before they were even born? By that reasoning, all Germans hold nationalist socialist ideals, all Americans support the war in Afghanistan, and the Swiss are sexist (Switzerland didn’t grant women’s suffrage until 1977).

I’m not suggesting that Australia is the best place to live or that all of its people are saints. There are racists, xenophobes, sexists, drunks, morons and the obnoxious loud-and-proud-whilst-on-vacation variety. Such people can be found in every country. To say that you have a real dislike for a group of people, where all you know about them is their nationality (or ethnicity, gender, sexual orientation, religion, socioeconomic status, disability, etc.) is offensive.

Am I really too sensitive? Imagine reading a blog where someone wrote that ten years of experience has led him to the conclusion that Latin Americans as a whole are unreliable, lazy, uneducated, uncouth, underachievers, selfish, boring, rude and illiterate. Any decent person would object to such an attitude, and rightly so. Are they too sensitive?

I hope that the author simply wrote this in anger and doesn’t actually use this kind of thinking when he interacts with people. I’m saddened that he’s had such a horrible experience here. I hope he can return to Canada with his wife and children. I mean that in a “live wherever makes you happy” way, not “if you don’t like it, get out!” way.

When the majority of Aussies, have only an embarrassingly limited knowledge of the rest of the world, have nothing but utter disrespect for anything and everything that isn’t a clone and a carbon copy of themselves, your well formulated but inaccurate argumentation is meaningless. Any person with an accent, other than Oiyshtroylian English is considered to be of a lesser intelligent human being by most Australians and open game to ridicule.
Having a truly multi-culti background, it strikes me as utterly unimportant how grammatically correct some persons language is, compared to what they are saying as long as they say it comprehensible to everyone. It has only any meaning in corporate contracts, but that is not what we are here for.
The argument that there is good and bad in every country is just an escape in to “misplaced, misguided bigotry that can’t be excused with any argumentation in the face of reality”. The level of vile character in Australians is totally out of proportion, compared to the rest of the developed world.
The Australian Brainwash is relentless, they never miss an opportunity to teach each other to love their country without any regard and consideration to keep it balanced for the reason of unhealthy Nationalism. The emerging rightwing Nationalism isn’t doing Australia a favour, and this forum is only a very small part of the protest that is taking place an many more levels, there is negative national and international attention to these matters if you like to believe it or not. International students for instance would have had an incredible positive impact on the Australian economy, but Aussies in their idiotic nationalistic (and racist) mindset can’t see past the tip of their noses.
But I am very much the opinion that any well founded reasoning is lost on the mostly average Aussie patriotic clown. You see, I am very much capable of respecting you personally when a conversation is halfway reasonable, but I am very pessimistic and unconvinced of respect by any Aussies to any argument coming from anyone not being a ”fair-dinkum true blue know it all better”.

I’m not sure what you’re trying to say. Are you asserting that Australians are inherently bad, or that it is the environment in which they are raised that predisposes them to a vile disposition? Or perhaps a combination of both?

What I am trying to say is that Aussies don't get taught. from early age, to live in symbiosis with others to the benefit of everyone, instead they get taught a "I am alright screw you Jack" doctrine, be antagonistic, confrontational and many of them are even proud of it.
Aussies will have to learn to work with the rest of them in a globalized world, instead of trying to dominate when interacting with people. But as it stands, they are going to learn mutual respect of others, the hard way.

Upyours, you can see it, I can see it, but it is very difficult for a true blue Aussie to see it, especially those who have not lived abroad for a considerable number of years and during these years learned to listen and stop being so loud and arrogant.

Thanks for that clarification. You’ll notice I didn’t argue that Australians are good, or that the government is good. You’re preaching to the choir on that one. Australia has massive problems, including racism, in amongst a sea of general xenophobia. It’s undeniable. My argument is that making blanket statements about a population based on nationality is unethical.
What is your opinion; Is it morally acceptable to make judgements about a person based only on their nation of origin?

If it is acceptable, I’d really like to know why. Clearly my ethical system is flawed, or I’m poorly educated, or not worldly enough.

If it is not, then the broad statements you are making about the population are ethically wrong. Isn’t it better to judge a person by the content of his or her character? Instead of judging him when you find out where he was born, why don’t you find out what he believes? If he reveals himself as an ardent follower of archaic nationalistic rubbish, and refuses to listen to any criticism, then you can make a fair judgement of his being an idiot. I can’t assume every North Korean supports the indoctrination of children and the damaging beliefs perpetuated through that police state. I can’t assume that all North Koreans consider themselves the superior “cleanest” race, even though many of them would have been taught that from a young age. I can only assess each person I meet individually. To do otherwise is to presume that all of those people are too stupid to ever think for themselves.


Criticize the system that fosters such abysmal attitudes in its people. That’s the way to make change. Don’t let it affect how you treat an individual who may or may not agree with that system. If there are protests on a national and global scale, that’s great news.

When 50 encounters with Aussies turn sour, number 51 is probably taken just for another idiot; I have to admit to be guilty of that.
It is very refreshing to talk to an Aussie who makes sense for a change, I hope that your character and attitude is going to rub of on as many people as possible in the future. The whole world is getting more and more entwined, economically as well as socially, Australia will have a much easier time adjusting to it by trying to be part of it then having delusional thoughts of superiority. Think East Timor, Indonesia and International students and the rest of it, not to mention western Europeans who come here ill-informed.

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