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Never Felt At Home, and What Is Patriotism?

All my life I've felt like an Alien here - this dry, boring country. I can appreciate the political achievements, the fact that Australia is a far more regulated and 'safe' country compared to many other places in the world. However, I don't feel alive - nor do I feel a part of this country; I view it as shallow and very narrow-minded. Despite the massive multiculturalistic populace there is still high social segregation and racism. I know this exists everywhere, but I find it hard to believe that I should accept this. 

And I can't stand how much people here seem content to live in ignorance. Australians are the fatter, extension of America. I'm getting overweight, slowly watching myself becomming larger and larger, because I'm bulldozed by apathy from the moment I wake up, since I know that there is little hope for adventure or excitement in what was once a brave new land ripe for exploring.

 

Maul Maul 18-21, M 46 Responses Mar 3, 2009

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I am agree with you, but they are racist with everyone, and even worst with people do not have good English.

I think the government in australia are to blame mostly,yes the people should have been on top if it but since landing many years ago off boats as convicts,they grew up with a " do as ya farkin told" attitude by the "elite" and have been institutionalised and predispositioned to be unquestioning and dumb as dogsh1t in the ways of the western world.if people here got more involved with politics and realised if they started to form their own opinions they would actually create a world beating country,it would be great.ive met lots of great Aussies but they're pretty much ostracised by there fellow country men .i think it's the young generations who are the most backward and the same thing is happening in America too.going backwards.well ,if you keep people stupid you can take everything they have off them which is how the country is being run.a lot of governments do this but they usually have a fight on their grubby little hands.as for the racism and the awkward social scenes that can't change until people grow a pair and think for themselves.i always thought that Aussies didn't take any crap until I came here .the old mason lodges and all those weird cult religion Christian freaks are everywhere tying up business like there's no tomorrow.i want to see australia stand on its own two feet and get that queens head of your money ,and get your own flag ,not a reminder of old britains dominance.old Britain sent your ancestors here to do die,not to prosper .,you don't owe that ancient out dated monarchy anything .you can't be an independent nation and still be the subjects of a foriegn queen too.time to get the thinking cap on australia !!

Don't expect the average Aussie Hillbilly, which is the overwhelming majority to grasp the idea that critique on one it's self is a healthy trait to have!!!
Any government will assert it's power only as far as the citizens of a country let them. But you are right to say that the Australian ruling class is running Australia like a penal colony and it's population is following the indoctrination of those in power with an unhealthy dose of fanatical conviction since they start them of as soon as they crawl out of the cradle. Just think about how brutal really, demonstrating opposition are bludgeoned in to submission with utterly phoney bylaws and smartarse and intellectual bully tactics. (i.e. Indian students, Occupy movement)
They are a million miles away from people thinking of them self like a pluralistic republic. Not worth while waiting for it if you are mortal.

It's interesting what you say about Australia. I was born in Adelaide and have lived here for over 50 years. I have always struggled despite having a good education and a fair amount of natural creativity. Brains and talent don't seem to matter as much as looks and connections.
I have almost given up on ever living the sort of life I have dreamed about. You can't even look sideways and you're being ripped off by some company or Government department, especially if you take some risks to try to get ahead.
Australia has gone down hill over the last three decades and if you're born poor, chances are you'll die poor! The elite class that control the wealth of this country truly are an arrogant and selfish lot and basically haven't changed since the colonial days. I believe it is this upper-middle class of people that give Australians a bad name - no the true Aussie battlers.

I am sorry that your personal dreams have not been realised and now they probably never will. I fail to see how a country is to blame for that. Yes, you may have had a good education ( does not mean you did well) , I know many creative people ( also does not help your argument). I have lived in every state and territory of Australia and have found nowhere more bigoted than adelaide. I moved here with my family 16 months ago and can not understand why the bloody place was thought to be livable at all. Your view of one narrow minded sector of backwards society is irrelevant . Go retire in the 'silver city' and I am sure you will have many sympathetic ears to talk off about the 'horrible city'.

Oh. So it is the country and it's terrible ways making you fat and apathetic. **** off then. You say we are America.. Only an American would blame someone else for their life problems and shift the blame exactly like you are doing. Not here. You want to be lazy and get fat..then that is what we will call you. Our country is not dry and boring...you are.

Hi mate,
Don't take things personal. I was a skilled migrant in Melbourne,Australia seven years ago. I was chasing the Australian dream which is always advertised on news papers, magazines and the internet. I was so depressed the way I was treated by most Australians. I was never welcomed. People used to come at me with racist comments very openly. They never felt ashamed of it. People are not ashamed to tell an immigrant to go back to where you came from you f***ing wog/Asian/Black C**t/N****r. These posts are written for a reason. People don't spend time writing posts to hate a nation. I never hate Australians. I still miss Australia. But I was not recognized as a fully human in Australia. I was not treated like a human. There are more indecent/impolite people than decent/polite people in Australia. So I left to Canada. Canada is the opposite of Aus.
In Aus,
if you are not white, then you are not Aussie
In Canada You are Canadian regardless of your skin color or ethnicity

I think it is the time for Australians to just stop where they are, and think what is going wrong in this nation. Why Australia is not welcoming immigrants? Why Australia is not a friendly nation? Why skilled immigrants like me are leaving Australia? There must be something very wrong about most Australians(not everyone though). It's not the time to tell people to "**** off". It's time to think and make a change. Australians can become as beautiful as their land if they start respecting other nationalities. Let immigrants to live freely,think freely and believe any religion they wish to. they way you treat people is the way you would be treated by the world. That's why Australia has very bad reputation for decency and politeness and famous for racism. I hope this will help open your eyes. put your self in our shoes and think how would you feel?

I have to leave this country! That's all what I can say and will do soon. 8 years is almost too long here in Oz. They drink so much and care about drinking way too much!

Message to the World!!! Do not immigrate to AUS! Don't waste your money and time! Stay away from AUS! It is beautiful here but people are not nice! No service No brain, racist...racist and so bad racist! No skills! So badly racist they are! If I see an Australian one day in my home country or they are after some help or what eva...they won't get any of me!

Racist..racist..and so racist they are... May the force steer you away from the racist people ;)

Don't blame a country for your lack of portion control. If you are bored, move somewhere else. I did.

As an Australian living in Bhopal, I can relate to feeling culturally distant to present day Australia. However, I have found where ever I travel, waht matters is my own inner attitude. If you look for good you will find it in Australia, India or elsewhere.<br />
Many Australians have limited experience experience outside the country. Secondly, the increasing polarisation in the media, that has been expolited by politicians during the economic dpown turn, has added to the proble, However, <br />
I soon found there is equal good and 'bad' in ever culture, but with a calm heart all adversity can become an opportunity.

Australia; a totally, utterly ruthless arsehole of a country. Dog eats dog, and to assimilate, you have to become just the same or you never ever gonna make it.<br />
Never trust anyone, be shallow, superficial and talk **** till the cows come home. Don't give anything away that may lets people know that you actually have conscience because they will use and abuse you, taking it as a weakness of yours.<br />
Don't try to make friends; because I promise to you that they are going to be the first to stab you in the back as soon they can profit from it, even if it is only for a dollar fifty.<br />
You want to come to Australia?<br />
Come and work in the mining industry!<br />
Save your money,...and hey listen to me, this is serious!<br />
Stay for a few years, save up, buy a house, an investment, a business in the country where you feel safe and where people around you can be trusted.<br />
But, stay here in Aussie Aussie, whoohaa how good it is here?!?!? And one day you will realize that you wasted the best time in your life, chasing hope of a life that will never come. <br />
The beauty of this country is real! I love it! You WILL love it! But it will blind you. Unless alcohol and drug use are your purpose of life, it will let you live in a never ending search for the soul or the meaning of life in this country.<br />
The fair dinkum, true blue ozzy is nothing short of the missing link in human evolution. Absolutely worthless as a sociable human being.<br />
Unless you yourself are a truly hard nosed arrogant arsewipe, you will be ridiculed, arseholed and fkced over till you hate the fkcn world and every bit that makes you human goes down the shtter.<br />
If you don't have a community, and hang around them, like the Vietnamese, Lebanese or Greeks and Italians, you have got no fkn chance of living a life that is worthwhile living, doesn't matter how much fkn beautiful bush and beaches are around.

Wow awesome statement! Reality....

Couldn't of said it better myself! Australia really is an awful country. The most self absorbed, drug taking, badly educated, slow and LAZY people I have ever met.

Just re-posting this reply as I forgot to put "with" between hanging and people before.

I'm now at a point where I cannot be bothered trying to make friends or trying to find a husband here in Australia anymore. So I'll just stick to keeping to myself at home reading books and online material and learning another language at least I find that more interesting, as well as hanging with people who share my values and who I find more interesting. I'm saving money to get out of Australia in a couple of years and go to Italy for 12 weeks. I intend to spend as much time away from Australia as possible, if I find the right person overseas to marry, that would be fantastic!!

Your spot on. If they love their country so much why are they on this site. Bullies, low life scum...is what I think of anglo aussies. Hate them to the core.

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God - my sentiments exactly! I absolutely despise living in Australia! I have lived here all my life and I am counting down the seconds until I can leave! Australians are (in general terms) racist, unsophisticated, uncultured and ignorant. I can't stand it here. Despite the fact I am a born and bred Australian I have never felt at home here. I have always identified much more with the English culture and plan to move there as soon as possible. And my god - I hate the accents! I spend my life trying to correct mine! I hate the whole 'laidbackness' of this place. It's one thing to be relaxed but it's another to go out wearing practically pyjamas. Australians (once again speaking in general terms - I know not everyone's like this) also tend to almost disapprove of intelligence and ambition - 'Tall Poppy Syndrome' ringing any bells?<br />
I won't rant on for any longer but really I cannot wait to get out of this racist unculture hellhole!

I love your post. It made me laugh out loud :)

I have to agree, I'm originally from Adelaide where i grew up with lots of friends and people who are open and friendly. Moved to Sydney, and if you throw someone a smile it won't be recognised- unless they are trying to sell you something. Huge house prices, a legal system that is really out of date, broken families, greed, a feeling of tall poppy syndrome mixed with one upmanship- "what school did you go to?", competitive workplaces, isolation, too much rain- id like to go outside and go for a run when i feel like it but it rains constantly, is balanced by the government tip i.e. the pension, student allowance etc.. but not much else.. am i right or not?

That because it an agnostic multicultural adaption of somethink cultural that is in itself not specific of any culture. it do your own cultural think.peter

I find it strange that so many people feel compelled to put in their two cents and tell you to leave in a very selfish defensive way. I am sure the world does not revolve around them them or that you had them in mind when venting. It is clear that this is not the right atmosphere for you here and it is okay to vent on this online forum. England is a great place with a rich history behind it and is so close to other wonderful countries for a creative person like you to visit. Australia is a young country and still culturally segregated with some loud aggressive people and some kind softspoken people. In time an equilibrium will be reached when these components intermingle and each group appreciates the positives of the others. In the meantime you should look after yourself and surround yourself by a place and people you love.

i completely agree mate. ive been around the world on a shoestring and discovered many fantastic cheap so called dangerous places where i feel alive . i have lived all over oz for many years and it really is just gods waiting room and boring as **** if you dont have alot of money and resources . the only people i speak to who love it are the people who made out like bandits on the housing boom or people who have managed to get lifelong support from the welfare system ( oh my mummy didnt breastfeed me ,give me sickness benefits boohoo) . the biggest problem with oz for me is the never ending rulebook that is placed on everything we do . when i was 20 ish we had a beer on the beach , swam naked in the surf, danced at the pub safely, walked at night no probs and basically had a ball and were responsible for our own mistakes .( im 28 now )<br />
i now live in cambodia on an island where we surf and swim and basically enjoy the **** out of life for 100 bux a week with all the mod cons and none of the bullshit.. i dont know about the rest of you , but ive never needed a government or heirachy to tell me how to live my life . im quite happy to provide for myself. im self educated (aircraft engineer) and provide my own food from my own backyard .. personally i think oz went down the ******* the day the american free trade agreement was instituted and the corporations took over.. if you want a nice place to retire ..try malta, (very cheap and gorgeous people) or laos ( even cheaper and beautiful country and very laid back) i do hope oz gets clever one day but it has to **** up like the united states before that will happen .. it almost seems like its one group of people who move from country to country like locusts consuming the peoples wealth ,then screwing everyone and moving on to the next, dont ya think? you know ,,over the last few hundred years...spain to england to usa to oz to ?? china maybe.. anyway thanks for listening. steve

i completely agree mate. ive been around the world on a shoestring and discovered many fantastic cheap so called dangerous places where i feel alive . i have lived all over oz for many years and it really is just gods waiting room and boring as **** if you dont have alot of money and resources . the only people i speak to who love it are the people who made out like bandits on the housing boom or people who have managed to get lifelong support from the welfare system ( oh my mummy didnt breastfeed me ,give me sickness benefits boohoo) . the biggest problem with oz for me is the never ending rulebook that is placed on everything we do . when i was 20 ish we had a beer on the beach , swam naked in the surf, danced at the pub safely, walked at night no probs and basically had a ball and were responsible for our own mistakes .( im 28 now )<br />
i now live in cambodia on an island where we surf and swim and basically enjoy the **** out of life for 100 bux a week with all the mod cons and none of the bullshit.. i dont know about the rest of you , but ive never needed a government or heirachy to tell me how to live my life . im quite happy to provide for myself. im self educated (aircraft engineer) and provide my own food from my own backyard .. personally i think oz went down the ******* the day the american free trade agreement was instituted and the corporations took over.. if you want a nice place to retire ..try malta, (very cheap and gorgeous people) or laos ( even cheaper and beautiful country and very laid back) i do hope oz gets clever one day but it has to **** up like the united states before that will happen .. it almost seems like its one group of people who move from country to country like locusts consuming the peoples wealth ,then screwing everyone and moving on to the next, dont ya think? you know ,,over the last few hundred years...spain to england to usa to oz to ?? china maybe.. anyway thanks for listening. steve

I don't like Australians, they are racist to Canadians and swear alot.

As an Australian returning home after 7 years living overseas I really wanted to like it here, but I'm finding it difficult. The government is riduculous, rules and regulations have gone out of control, public transport is terrible. Most people are friendly, but they do as little as possible so they can have as much leisure time as they can. Trying to get things done here is a joke, people are always taking a day off, or havn't got to it yet, or there is always a 'problem with the system'. I've had registered documents get lost by Australia Post, nobody can do anything even though I still have the printed receipt with the tracking number. It's just a joke. This unsophisticated, sport obsessed society which revolves around a drinking 'culture' can drive you mad. Unless, you have a few drinks yourself, put the annoying aspects of this place out of your mind and try focus on the good things - and there are some.

As an Australian returning home after 7 years living overseas I really wanted to like it here, but I'm finding it difficult. The government is riduculous, rules and regulations have gone out of control, public transport is terrible. Most people are friendly, but they do as little as possible so they can have as much leisure time as they can. Trying to get things done here is a joke, people are always taking a day off, or havn't got to it yet, or there is always a 'problem with the system'. I've had registered documents get lost by Australia Post, nobody can do anything even though I still have the printed receipt with the tracking number. It's just a joke. This unsophisticated, sport obsessed society which revolves around a drinking 'culture' can drive you mad. Unless, you have a few drinks yourself, put the annoying aspects of this place out of your mind and try focus on the good things - and there are some.

As an Australian returning home after 7 years living overseas I really wanted to like it here, but I'm finding it difficult. The government is riduculous, rules and regulations have gone out of control, public transport is terrible. Most people are friendly, but they do as little as possible so they can have as much leisure time as they can. Trying to get things done here is a joke, people are always taking a day off, or havn't got to it yet, or there is always a 'problem with the system'. I've had registered documents get lost by Australia Post, nobody can do anything even though I still have the printed receipt with the tracking number. It's just a joke. This unsophisticated, sport obsessed society which revolves around a drinking 'culture' can drive you mad. Unless, you have a few drinks yourself, put the annoying aspects of this place out of your mind and try focus on the good things - and there are some.

Not really surprised how uneducated most of the Australian responses are to this. Clearly they have not much better to do with their time, must be raining. I hate living here, every day is bloody torture, but when you move overseas you cant always just jump on a plane back, it can be more complex. 3 weeks to go for me, been counting down for the last 6 months! Not that I would expected someone as narrow minded and immature to be able to understand something like that, most people who have had more experience in life understand, funny that. Sunny weather is great, but seems a rather shallow thing to choose over the history, culture and interesting people it creates in the UK, says it all that the most impressive public service is free BBQS. No rights of way in the countryside so feels like a prison. No where is perfect for sure, but England is my home. To anyone who just chips in 'leave then' or any other abusive rubbish, I say stick with what your good at, scratching your balls whilst checking out Autobarn online.

mag wheels for the ute mate,

Simple. I you dont love it leave. Go to England and the cold miserable weather and the complaining people.Go on get and stop winging.

im british and to all you other brits complaining about australia, plz leave and stop moaning,and also plz dont come back here,

Man...I read all of this and think...come to Canada. I have 3 Aussie friends alone who will never go back to living in OZ after being here for 5+ years other then too see family every year or two. Canada welcomes Aussies! You guys are great even if your country is going to **** (as some of you say) (hell I say canada is going too **** too, so there ya go...)

Man...I read all of this and think...come to Canada. I have 3 Aussie friends alone who will never go back to living in OZ after being here for 5+ years other then too see family every year or two. Canada welcomes Aussies! You guys are great even if your country is going to **** (as some of you say) (hell I say canada is going too **** too, so there ya go...)

Id never live in another british expat country oz new zealand india canada or lets face it usa, and thats not a dig at britian or the brittish - they are fine and have moved on with the rest of Europe, its just these countries they used to own have this big chip on the shoulder and the only way to express it is with stupid styles, stupid accents - yet still english. and skate shoes and notions about being unique etc, get over yourselfs money and skiing and that doesnt build a culture.
its ok that you all exist, just **** off and stop thinking your so great
ozzies and canadians wouldnt know much about work and industrial revolutions, they just want to ******* skateboard and party and live life like its all a big party with big wheels on the trucks, lol, if or when the hard times ever come back and survivlal of the fittest rules you weak prics that couldnt grow a carrot will be the first to be trambled.
so sorry to tear you down while your talking up canada but your the same people and same mentality, and the ozzies you know who dont want to go back only love it cus they do more skating and even less work than in oz ,
Whos gona build the beautiful things these days like the pyramids and chateaus and stuff thats creative and last hundreds of years, whos gona do that these days now were all turning ******* useless, ! and yea Ozzie kids and canada kids would be at the forefront .

hey dude do not bring india into this india belongs to a whole new diffrent kind of league from where you cant even start to imagine i suggest you just do your research on india you will get to know what i am saying it is an civilization in itself and not an ex colony of britain , just stick to ex colonies of canada australia and newzealand as britishers where kicked out of india and infact the indians have contributed a lot to british society ,economy and culture as well just talk about rest of three countries who are as boring as hell especially australia .

same here, i hateeeeeeeeeeeee this country!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Back in 1984 , I was 20 years of age and I loved this country.<br />
today I look around I feel like a complete alien, an invisible one at that.<br />
Consumerist debt, long working hours, {that is if you can get work}<br />
Broken families, binge drinking youth, big brother government ,crippling taxes.<br />
agressive drunken men. cold feminazi,women, materialistic society and a current administation<br />
that is hell bent on communism by stealth.<br />
Is it just me, jaded by age and life in general, or am I right in at least some of my observations.

It saddens me that you dont feel excited with life, you shouldn't live like that I felt the same after trying to stay close to my brother in oz, I found it very dull and boring with no excitment 'buzz' that I have when in the UK, so I started drinking alot to get me through, I was there for 7 years and came back to the UK a couple of months ago and feel alive again, I wish I never went and really regretted wasting my 7 years there, It was such a boring place for me. Leave now its never too late.

:)) @ 'SUCK MY BALLS AUSTRALIA'.......

No way in hell- how bout u just leave as u don't like it - enjoy living in a country riddelled with debt from the GFC

dont belive all your tv tells you,your an island, your media is very contolled, the truth rarely lands there, and in the intelligent world we dont care about you,

Hey Maul You're better off coming to the uk mate. I've lived here all my life and the weather isn't as bad as it's made out to be. In fact in the summer it can get uncomfortably hot and auzzies are a bunch of loud mouthed insulting spawn of scum convicts we kicked out of our country 200 years ago and they are all bitter about it. I befriended some auzzies on facebook and everything was fine for a while and then the cracks started to show. I'm not gonna go into detail but i'll tell you this. They are the most arrogant, rude, bunch of ******* wankers i have ever met. I will never befriend another ozzy ****** again as long as i live<br />
SUCK MY BALLS AUSTRALIA AND YOUR WOMEN ARE ******* UGLY AND YOUR BEER IS PISH<br />
******* home and away and neighbours. What a load of bollocks. Oh one more thing.Get some ******* dress sense and how the **** did you develop that ridiculous accent in just 200 years when you come from or should i say was kicked out of the UK And we would kick your arse in a war any ******* time.<br />
Bye!

yeh Ilike what you say . someone once said to me that australia is more RACIST than England. I have been to ENGLAND and I fully agree. Its definitely LESS racist than OZ.

Im very amused by your comments, You say the Australians are all a bunch or of loud mouthed insulting convits ect ect ect,But your statement is all of the above ???????

We may have developed an accent that you can not understand in two hundred years but that would gel nicely with the amount of time that anyone in your country has gone to the dentist.

Baaaahhhahahahahahahaha @ guru4u's comment:<br />
<br />
"Well i hope you chock on your English tea ya ******* prat."<br />
<br />
Never laughed so hard in my life.

its choke dear, and thats a fair dinkum true blue attitude you got there with the baaaahhhaaaa, i cringe to see that ozzie chant written in words.
and your a girl, do you scrape faces and scream dont touch my man ya c888t in the chipper when your out dressed as a princess at night off your head on ectasy johno and bazza cooked up in the garage with the pill press ?!

I know it is choke you dork, but since I copy and pasted their comment I also copy and pasted their spelling mistake. Basically I quoted them, when quoting someone, you're supposed to quote exactly what they say, not change the quote. Say what you like to make yourself feel better, dear, but it is still a funny comment and still makes me laugh.

:)))