Dont Work For the Usps!

For over a year I have told myself it pays good, it's keeping food on the table, you will find something soon. I am now telling everyone that will listen that I would rather be on welfare then work for the USPS. I transfered out of state with the PO and was promised all sorts of things like their RCA's (rural carrier associates, who, btw, are not full time) get at least 5 days a week and sometimes more. I have worked maybe 2 to 3 days per week for 3 months. I was also told that most RCA's have been going permanent within 2 years. Well I can tell you that most of those people have been there for 4 years or longer and are still not permanent. There are permanent positions open for them to go to but the post master wont make these people permanent because then he won't get his bonus. One of the supervisors is sleeping with a carrier and she gets extra help daily. I have been there less then a month and have never gotten help. I've even been sent out to help her! Recently I told them I would like to take a class at the local community college 1 night per week and could I be put on a short route so I could get there in time. I was told that the PO was my #1 responsibility and if I couldn't live up to my agreement with them, which btw is for you to be available 24/7, 6 days per week, then maybe this job wasn't for me and I should either give up this class or quit. The PO does not care about it's employees, they do not care about your health, your family, or anything that is going on in your life. You are a body to them. They ignore you if you get you're route in by 5 but all hell breaks lose if you dont and Lord help you if you don't answer that phone at 6:30. Oh, and you can forget about a scheduled day off. I waited 3 months 2 get my daughter in to see a specialist, asked for the day off and was told to change the appointment to my day off. WTF, day off? What's that? So I have decided to quit. I will go to school full time, live on welfare and foodstamps, attempt to get unemployment and screw the post office! I'll use e-mail and fed-ex and pay my bills on-line.

katiemosher0101 katiemosher0101 36-40 22 Responses Aug 4, 2009

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Yeah, its that way with the phone co too. Usually, if they love the job,#1, they're a man,#2 they're in a higher paying position(like pm)#3 they'll do anything to keep the position or be promoted including get YOU fired. AND if it's the post office, #4 they have relatives working there.

I have worked for the USPS for 24 years. I started as a casual tractor trailer driver out of downtown St. Louis. A year later I was converted to TE carrier. A year later I took the PO exam, scored high because I practiced for 2 months. I was converted to PTF carrier. I carried mail 2 years. Then I transferred into PTF clerk into another office. I worked midnight shift in sectional center for 3 years. I bid on window clerk job and changed to day shift. I started to 204B and did that for 3 years. I applied and was selected as Supv in neighboring office. I Supvd Delivery and Clerks for 7 years then was promoted to Postmaster. I am now PM at a level 20 office and I am not going anywhere else. During my career I have worked in 10 diff offices with 100s of diff employees in various positions. I absolutely love my job. I love my employees because I can appreciate how hard their jobs are. Day in, day out. Its tough. I have never ever come across anyone disrespectful nor have I done anything extra to get where I am. I worked hard every day with a positive attitude and did not allow others to effect my day. You get what you give.
To the TE complaining about the new CCA positions.... that CCA position was a settlement determined by a neutral arbitrator. Neutral arbitrators are deciding everything between the unions and the USPS.
I ABSOLUTELY LOVE MY JOB AND I LOVE THE USPS!! It is a very frustrating organization, but EVERY job has its ups and downs.
I never understood why people take about the USPS like it is one big entity. The USPS consists of 500,000 people just like any business. It will be what ever you make of it. If you want to be negative, you will attract the same. Same with positive. I would do anything for my 18 employees, and them for me. So.... do not lump the USPS into one entity, because after 24 years, I still have yet to experience any of these types of people in this forum with in the USPS organization. Although I have only worked with a few hundred out of 600,000.
I am grateful for my job and I would not trade it for ANYTHING.

Thank you for writing this. I'm towards the end of interviewing and testing for a position at the post office. I read a lot of complaints but all jobs have there pros and cons.

I'm sorry to hear all these horrible "war stories", as you all would call it. If people just did their job, and not get involved in any of the BS it would be fine. Try working at Safeway or in the retail industry. The post office seems like heaven compared to those jobs. Most if not all of you knew what you were getting into when you did. The internet might have been around or might not have, check that. Going back to retail business. You never get days off that you want. They are forever switching shifts work one day 3 P.M. get off at 12:00 A.M. be back at 10:00 A.M. Talk about a crappy work day. They have clicks there and management usually listen to the people they click with. Was with Safeway for over ten years still on part time. A person will not get full time unless someone passes away or retires, I know people that have been part time for 20 years. The retail business is the devil, and customers think they own you. Trust me your jobs could be worse.


I need a job that i can make good money, a friend said POST OFFICE. so i have been applying for every mail carrier around and no luck. They say I did not post my felony BUT I DID. I made a definite point, because of their constant emails telling me i am not disclosing it!!!

Why are they doing this????

It's amazing to think that I'm not alone when it comes to working at a place called USPS (AKA Hell On Earth). I started working as a casual for the distribution center in Bell Gardens sometime in December. When I first started working there, everything seemed fine. There was a friendly atmosphere with the management. Especially with the MDO and the supervisors, but once few months went by, they started showing there true colors. Some of the managers began harass, manipulate, and humiliate us casuals. It would be rare when they would do it to regulars, but when they did, they would go to the union. I have been harassed to no end, but I would shut my mouth and do the job. After all, you gotta have thick skin and let nothing get to you right? As time went on, I was working all the assignments that nobody wanted to work. They were yelling at me telling me to go "faster". One of those situations, I was working in an unsafe working environment. When I needed days off, they needed "proof" for what I was taking off for. They would say things like "you're going to party" and "you're going out with your friends to get drunk!" I said "if I want to do that, I can do that and still come to the work the next day!!! Besides It's none of your business what I do outside my job." Went to the union and got my day off. I had to pick up my brother from track practice and one the managers said "you can turn in your badge, that may be your brother, but this is a job!" As time went on, it got to the point where I couldn't even look at my managers anymore. I thought to myself "10 dollars an hour to get a diet of abuse and disrespect 6 days a week?" I got terminated for doing refusing to do an assignment and yelling at her when I never refused to do anything. She lied. The final nail in the coffin was when they did not have my check. After making some phone calls I found out that my paycheck was sent to the distribution center. I called again and asked if my check was there and she was being rude and disrespectful to me on the phone. I told her " I should not have to come hunting for my paycheck. I may be young but I'm not stupid! If I do not have my paycheck in my hand, I will seek legal counsel!" She changed up her voice real quick. In fact she was whispering on the phone. Saying "I'm sorry. It Just might be in the wrong place. We will have your check on Monday. That's a promise." I'm going to pick it up Monday, If they don't have it, let's just say that they may have to pay me more than what was on that check. It's so easy to see why people end up "going postal" working for a place like this. SMH And they wonder why people want to go FEDEX or UPS.

I was just let go as a TE letter carrier because the NALC and the PO came up with a new contract that replaced the hard working TEs with the new CCAs with lower pay. I do not intend to go back there as a CCA with a $7.00/hour pay cut. That is more that 20% less than what I made there. That is BS. To go back and get screwed over again? I think this time, there is really no guarantee of the hours. They have already gotten approval to flood our district with over 700 CCAs, to reduce the overtime to nothing. I am gone, halfway through my master's in teaching, and I am falling back on my office skills and software skills. GOOD RIDDANCE!!!!!!!!


I am a 15 yr. PO vet ,also a 22 yr. military vet (70%disabled combat) my military career passed with out a blemish on my record,I was proud to be a soldier and I could hold my head up with pride due to the fact that I was a good soldier for 22 years. After 15 yrs with the PO I am sick every day it has affected my home life I have been written up so many times I've lost count ,when my supervisor tells me we need to talk which is always broadcast over the intercom system for the intire building to hear (700,000 sq feet of building and 350 fellow employees) I have gotten to the point that I don't speak to them I just grab the form sign it date it and throw it at them and say write what ever you want "I DON'T GIVE A F--K WHAT IT SAYS" and I go back to work .I have been walked out 3 times for clocking out for lunch at the posted scheduled time . This job is killing me I have let them take my pride and crush my soul. I never believed anyone owed me anything or that I deserved something special because I served my country but, I do believe that I didn't survive the 26 fragment wounds,11 bullet wounds ,and 6 stabbings to be smashed to a soulless heap of depression by some jackass who got his management position because they were afraid he might tear up some equipment or get someone hurt on the work room floor . And I know what your going to say "why don't you just quit" well that's easy ,The only thing I know how to do besides the mail is fight and there isn't much call for a 56 yr old warrior with PO induced depression . Best of luck to you ,R.D.

im so sorry Katie. I too am in a similar PO induced depression. I'm a 55 yr old letter carrier with one year and 7 months to make retirement. I too cannot quit because I'd lose my retirement. Just know sane people are thankful for your service, both in the military and with the PO. Most of our customers do appreciate us even if our managers never do. I want to give you encouragement, but considering the dismal morale among city letter carriers, at nearly all post offices, I simply don't know how to. If you have never experienced it, it's hard to explain the bullying and intimidation tactics we have to deal with everyday. I could tell you many horror stories that I myself have had to endure. It's sad, so sad. It threatens my sanity ...I will say this, know your contract. Managers will lie to you. Dois means nothing....Don't let them crush you!!! Learn how not to respond to their tactics. Recently I was told by my postmaster, that I hadn't done anything in the last 10 minutes. I responded angrily, which made her happy, because she got me to work faster. Anger is a response they want. Don't give it to them. Learn to deflect the negativity. At our age, a body can only go so fast. A fair days work for a fair days pay is all you have to do. I used to run. It was never, never ,never, fast enough. Now I simply cannot. My point is, no matter what you do, they will find fault.

I am a PSE shop steward and am in some what of the same position you are in. i been working for the post office for about 6 months or so and it isnt all cracked up to what it is suppose to be. to me work should be fairly simple but for some reason every time i go to work there is always someone stirring up ****. Another pse is telling supervisors and shop stewards that i am verbally harassing her and they keep coming down on me, I am not sure what to do, it also dosent help the fact that the pse that keeps complaining has a relative who has been in the post office for 25 years and when ever something goes wrong she goes and crys to her mother. All i want to do is go to work enjoy being around some of my fellow co workers and then go home thats it any idea how i can avoid this crazy women. I already dont talk to her what else can i do

I am a PSE shop steward and am in some what of the same position you are in. i been working for the post office for about 6 months or so and it isnt all cracked up to what it is suppose to be. to me work should be fairly simple but for some reason every time i go to work there is always someone stirring up ****. Another pse is telling supervisors and shop stewards that i am verbally harassing her and they keep coming down on me, I am not sure what to do, it also dosent help the fact that the pse that keeps complaining has a relative who has been in the post office for 25 years and when ever something goes wrong she goes and crys to her mother. All i want to do is go to work enjoy being around some of my fellow co workers and then go home thats it any idea how i can avoid this crazy women. I already dont talk to her what else can i do

I thought I was very alone.I just quit a T.R.C job because of someone of the problems posted here. I was working at Mt.Airy,Maryland where stress ran all threw that post office. I was the first-cough-victim to take the job and stay there for a long while, The first hint I should have notice was the last person to stay there was over six years ago !.

The Boss is a young guy who throught I should be able to come inright off the streets and case and run the route just like a regular.When I didn't and left things behind he would come over to me or send someone else to see what I was leaving behind. Every Monday I would work the woman would come over to see what I was leaving the day I was there the woman was there and didn't even come over.All I could think of was what a joke. Oh did I mention that the clerk who was there (monica) started to go back and tell what I was bring back.... Even went so far to look in the truck to see what I was leaving behind. I called down to Baltimore office and the man down there you have not been the first.

AS for making reg.You wont. I was told there not making anyone reg. any more the too ladies where I had work took ten years yes your reading right .Tenyears before they made regs.The Post Office made me want to stay in college and the last things I said was thank you for reminding me to stay in college. I'm telling anyone dont go to the POst office to work.

I have worked for the post office for 16 years and I've seen the steady decline of this place thanks to management and the union. For 10 years of my 16yrs, I've been a part time regular. Now thanks to the new contract, the union and management agreed to, part time regular jobs are now eliminated. I will be force to work full time, not an option for me. I thought the post office was broke. I thought an employee who wanted to work part time could save the post office money by working part time. I still don't understand why my union pushed for this and management agreed to this. On top of that, management in my office has managed to bring morale to an all time low. Ask anyone working there and the answer is the same.Management doesn't care about the employees at all. They don't care if the job is done right or wrong, as long as it looks good on paper. They gossip about other employees and their business. They lie to us and they are quick to threaten and disciple before getting all the facts to straightening things out. They seem to have some respect for some but manage to bully and disrespect most. Once they have formed an opinion about you , you are that person forever in their unwise minds. I could go on but I just want to get out. I need to quit soon , cause as I stated before, I will be force to work full time when I can't. How do I start the quitting process? Will I get any of my tsp money back? How long does the quitting process take? (I heard months) Do you think writing letter to the postmaster about whats going on in my office a good idea after I quit? Thanks, unhappy in Madison.

im a pse in the post office it a good jobs, when they hire the pse for the branches they shoulder told us in orienation that we had to take other tests to be eliblige to stay with the post office. In if you dont pass these test the postmaster can let you go, why this wasnt told before we get the jobs. I feel that not right. Someone need to complaint about it to the post office union if i know how to contact the washington i will jobs is to hard to find and everybody need a job.

If there is a working at the Post Office.I was a letter carrier for about seven years ...I recently quit that damn job. The pay is good, but the stress and aggravation that you go through is not worth it. Everyone there from mail handler to Supervisors live on nasty gossip. The women are jealous of the younger prettier women..Management treating people like dirt and playing favorites..People getting over..there are people that take off years ..years!!! and then come back to work like nothing happened..People faking injuries to get does not care if you have children, or a sick parent, all they care about is you delivering that mail, even under a storm! 89 % are drunks and drink on the job.. The post office will change you as a person and not for the better.Not to mention the physical and monotonous a factory of nutjobs! yes it pays the bills but I rather be sane and stress free than being a prisioner of the PO..i quit and now I can breathe!

I am 24 and Wow I felt like there was something wrong with me for feeling the same way as you all... I complain about it all the time, I started in May of this year and it took me a few years to finally get on, I'm a PSE Clerk and I HATE it now! The first month was great but now everyone is so bitchy and lazy and thinks they need to boss me around and they're not a supervisor or manager at all... just because they're older and have worked there longer I guess they think they can do what the hell they want. I get plenty of hours in and love my checks but I don't know if all the stress is worth it. My hubby works there too but in a different town and they have screwed him around on his check since he started last month and it's causing so many problems between paying bills and daycare. We were both unemployed before these jobs besides him doing his mechanics and I do photography on the side, we were NEVER ever this stressed or unhappy. We never see our kids and it's hard planning things around 1 day off a week, there is never a day to just relax with my husband and kids and I miss being home with them :( I'd really love for the post offices to all shut down, at this point I could care less. Everyone in my family wonders why I'm bitching all the time saying it's a good paying job and they're right about that but that is it! They have no idea what goes on inside. I've also been a little tempted to wanting to try to become a carrier, they seem like they're in a lot better mood and plus their schedule seems so much better, I work a split and HATE IT!

The last thing you would want to do is be a carrier. It sucks being outside in ALL weather conditions. It's great money but say goodbye to your life as you know it. I just quit today after getting screwed once again. I'm going back to school and feel so relieved.

2 years and I hope not counting, im going back to college

I hear ya.

We have choices.

How many years do you have in?

I've wrote my own version of the post office story and I think I might be putting it on here soon if I can find it

I'm only 22 and I feel like I've just ****** my life up all the way to hell by working here

yes, try getting $300.00 for 2 weeks and see if you can pay your bills that are over $400. I have to borrow money from family and friends just to buy gas to do the ******* job. I am sick and tired of it!


I have 18 years federal service and transferred 6 years ago as a ptf letter carrier. This was in order to get off third shift.

Didn't know the boss was a hostile man with Napoleon Syndrome.

Long story short- I'm dealing with the repercussions of my actions to expose him as creating a hostile work environment. I'm not the first who has done this. There are 2 other women who have done so. He hates women.

Anyway, a couple years ago the ptf's were making overtime. Now we might be on the schedule 1 to 3 days per week.

The time away from the hostile environment is good but it's difficult to do without the paycheck.

Unlike you I am having to wait for a better job to come along before I can quite. I think I'm getting close and I can't wait.

You made a wise choice! I ******* hate the post office too and everything you said in this is right but I haven't got to quite like you have yet so I am pissed off all the time. I only get one day a week though. It is the most ****** up job I have ever had.