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War, What Is It Good For? Absolutely Nothing.

Say it again. There is no conflict ever that could not have been resolved with diplomacy. Peaceful resolutions should always be sought, but this is not on the agenda of most governments.
mizzen123 mizzen123 46-50, M 8 Responses Feb 15, 2013

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I appreciate your thoughts. The Bible actually foretold that during "the last days" there would be " wars and reports of wars" that " nation would rise against nation." Do you think that true peace and security will ever be able to overtake the earth?

The was humans are, probably not, but it is still an ideal to strive for.

Yes I agree there seems to have been plenty of time for humans to demonstrate whether or not they can establish peace.
The Bible long ago stated why--" I well know O Jehovah that it does not belong to man who is walking even to direct his step."(Jeremiah 10:23)
Notice it says step not even steps...
So is it hopeless? Is true peace just a dream?

Hmm...War is needed in an imprefect world. To paraphrase General Washington the best way for peace is to be prepared for war. Some wars are a necessary evil, American Revolutionary War, American Civil War, along with World War II however some war is not needed and done by those men whose eyes are turned into dollar signs. But to make a blanket statement that diplomacy is the only answer is wrong. Remember the purpose of the military is to enforce national policy when diplomacy fails.

Obviously some of you need to read your history and talk with the people who have actually been to war. War is not a very attractive alternative but neither is enslavement.

We do read our history, and history keeps repeating itself.

Right! A wise person once said that any declaration of conflict, whether it be a war or a law suit or a fist fight is a failure in itself. : (

Quite right.

Diplomacy is ONLY effective because it is backed up by the threat of war. Peaceful resolutions are not always acceptable. How would you peacefully resolve Hitler seizing portions of Eastern Europe + refusing to return it?

It's not because it's backed up with the use of force. The reason Hitler got so far in the first place was through the appeasement of the early days and lack of tough diplomacy. After that failure, there was little alternative, but it was a collective failure.

How do you feel about the armed forces ?

They are necessary, but only because it is an imperfect world. Any armed conflict should only be used as a very last resort. Routinely, spurious arguments about 'regime change' and the 'war on terror' has been used to invade. It is the 10th anniversary today of the 'Stop The War' marches in ondon and elsewhere and still war criminals George W Bush and Tony Blair walk free.

You had me at war criminals :)

Looking at my post, I have no idea where 'ondon' is, hehe (my spelling is very good, but my typing is crap). They are war criminals every bit as much as BIn Laden et al, cut from the same fevered cloth.

Absolutely and I'm pedantic about spelling and don't like my typos .

I've completely changed the meanings on a couple of my posts through my typos....

I notoriously forget to add n't to things and have to back track quick .

I once sais about screaming at the television, sadly omitting the s at the start of the word :-0

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It is for birth control to get rid of the middle class children tome as that is about all you see fighting and dying in Viet Nam

Unfortunately war is convenient for governments. With the alibi of a a foreign enemy they keep the population brainwashed and unaware of the way they are being robbed and exploited by their own politicians. Besides, it means great surpluses for weapon industries, which are the greatest funding proveyors in political campaigns.

Yes, a few months ago, we had the spectacle of the ghastly Eton Rifle David Cameron attending an arms trade fair. Tells you where his priorities lie.

Obviously in making friends with those who can give him money to finance his campaigns and not in common people.

He doesn't give a damn about common people. I remember Paul Weller discussing about Cameron's supposed love of 'Eton Rifles', saying 'What part of the song doesn't he f****** understand?' (similarly with The Smiths). Morally bankrupt.