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Does Anyone Have An Answers?

Why Are We in Afghanistan?

Is it to combat international terrorism?

liberating the people from the Taliban?

Building a functional state?

These are  all noble aspirations, but are they really the motivations of the USA?

Whatever our reasons, is it possible to achieve anything?

What do we gain from this war?

 

 

Someone help me understand.

BlueGeorgia BlueGeorgia 41-45, M 25 Responses Jul 15, 2009

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Perhaps this is Because We as an Industrial Nation, have Become so dependent upon Petrolium Products, and if We have a occupied 'Preasence' there,then some Western oil interests just may have a bit more Say as to 'where' some of that 'Oil' is shipped. IGreatly Dislike War, and Conflect as it stands, to have troopers over there Dying,seemingly over the Fossilized goo of extinct Plant and Animal life IS an Awful Wasteof Human Life.

The US fights wars in the name of God and then we're suppose to have separation from of Church from State, it doesn't make any sense. What about helping the people that are starving here in the US?

Your probably right.

Also, Bin Ladens probably shaved his beard and is in New York driving a taxi for a living. (I really dont know. Just a thought)

Cuz Bush Jr. vowed to capture Hussein and hang him for something regarding Hussein and Bush senior. Idk why they're still there. power hungry maybe. plus military contractors are making boatloads of money.



I dont know the truth of why we're still in Afghanistan, and I probably dont want to know either..

Interesting comment aftermath.

Never thought of it that way.

TY for wringing out your sponge here. lol

BG, I wander, I wonder, I read your contributions. Some days I control my outbursts better than I did today. Sometimes I drop my guard and sprinkle in a thought or two. Other times I blindly go where I shouldn't, with few regrets. Just wringing out my sponge of life today. ;~)Life is too mysterious to always be serious.I don't like war, but realize defense is necessary. For this I am grateful for those that serve and protect us. Although at times our society is just a hair above the Mayans they sacrifed their own as a form of worship. We sacrifice ours for the almighty dollar.

Aftermath,,I don't know that your assumption of my being wise is correct but we seem to agree on everything else. lol



Twilight, I often open can's of worms now and then.

I even have a story tittled can of worms somewhere. lol



Always feel welcome to comment. Even if you disagree. lol



Thank you for your time and comment.

High five!

BG and After Math.

I thought I had unleashed the titans on me after I wrote that.

Glad to know .

Twilight, Now you are getting to the meat of the matter. If the truth be told, our "advisors" (which usually escalates to the armed forces in mass quantities) were there years and years ago, to control and participate in the drug traffic. Uh, Delta Force in South America; Viet Nam, et al.BG, glad you opened this discussion, but you are wise and already know the answers. This is our government's method of keeping "some" employed, no unemployment compensation in their game though. Tear 'em up, chew 'em up and spit 'em back out. It breaks my heart to see history repeated over and over. Bring them all home, while we can, in one piece and put them to work rebuilding the infrastructure.We are a country with a large population of sheep.***climbing down off of orange crate and dragging it back into the crowd with the vacant stares*****

Doesn't sound far fetched to me.

I would put nothing past our government.

Doesn't sound far fetched to me.

I would put nothing past our government.

Afghanistan makes 87% of the worlds Opium!

And 75% of the world Heroin.

The opium capital of the world, Afghanistan is responsible for 92 percent of global output.

Well its too well conceived for us to really grasp the whole deal. Again it is the domino affect ruling the drug market is ruling every other thing in the world. The amount of turnover this trade gives any shareholder ....

And don't ask who is involved you should be asking who is not ! Sounds far fetched I guess but ... Oh well you asked.

Again I say. We're trading lives for money and jobs.



Thank you for the comment BJC.

Hi Blue



IMHO - the purpose of modern warefare is to make profits for the makers of the "war machine", both individuals and companies.



they will not allow the administration to stop the war somewhere. Already, they are making cross eyes at iran. i would not be suprised if there were a "pre-eminent strike" against that state in the next 12 - 24 months.



If your president were the pope himself, the people with the profit agenda would not let him stop the warefare.



Correct me if a I am wrong, but I think that the US has been engaged in warefare since '39



'39 -'45 - WWII

45 - 72 - first as advisors to france in vietnam. then took over the war.

cambodia

bay of pigs

somalia

bosnia

iraq I

afganistan

Iraq II



now that is a lot of profit.



humbly



b

I agree with that comment 100%

I remember the reason they went to afghanistan is to find osama bin laden but that was almost 8 years ago. they still haven't found out, I don't believe they want to find him because if they did; they would have like Saddam Hussein and killed him.

Thanks Under, finally some factual information.



But your right, your the well intended comment didn't really give me the answer I was looking for, but thank you for your time and thank you for the information.



I personally wouldn't spend one soldier for peace over there. These people are known only for their hatred, violence and terrorism. We gain nothing by this war.



Nothing we know of anyway. I'm sure there are political gains that we Americans will never know about..

To be totally honest, BlueGeorgia, I don't know why the United States entered the arena in Afghanistan. Initially, back in 2001, I think, it was to defeat the Taliban and capture Osama Bin Laden. Attention shifted so quickly to Iraq after that, and now it appeared as if the troops picked up from there and moved back to Afghanistan. I don't even know, I'm a little embarrassed to admit, the 'official reason' why U.S. is there today.



Canadian troops have been in Afghanistan for several years now, and I think their tour-of-duty is up pretty soon. We went in as part of a United Nations contingency. Anyone correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe U.N. troops can unilaterally set foot in any country unless that nation requests their presence.



The details of why Afghanistan asked for the U.N. are a bit hazy for me now, but I believe that after the Taliban was ousted from power, a lot of regional warlords filled the gap, leaving it no better off than it was before. Unable to maintain control on its own, the Afghan gov't requested assistance.



So, as is so common for Canadians, we went in as peace-keepers. But whatever factions didn't want the U.N. there, they started targeting Canadian soldiers -- others as well, I'm sure. In 2003, NATO took over the operation, and in 2006, I believe, control was turned over to the U.S., or a U.S.-lead coalition.



I just looked on Wikipedia, which reports that 124 Canadians have died in Afghanistan since 2002, they first Canadians soldiers killed in a war-zone since Korea. The first four were killed when a U.S. plane accidentally dropped a bomb on them, believing them to be enemy soldiers instead, during a training exercise.



People have been outraged here, too. I'm not going to pass judgment, however: I would rather not have Canadian soldiers killed. Yet, they are soldiers, trained to carry out that roll. Which, I know, is no comfort at all to the relatives and friends of those killed in combat. If it was my brother, son, or daughter, I'd be just as irate. I'm afraid there isn't a simple answer.



Sorry I didn't answer your question. It's as much perspective as I can offer, and hopefully it will help some.

Nice comment.



I seems that no one has any idea what we are doing there.



unless these comments are right and we're there to create jobs for our country.



Would that mean Obama is trading lives for jobs.

I personally don't believe war is ever a good solution.



Our government is driven by big business. I believe that it is all about money. There is big money to be made in any war. The bomb makers, the gun makers, the vehicle and tank makers - the list goes on and on.



There are many other reasons, but bottom line is that they all revolve around money and power. I don't really believe the original intent was to help another country.



Just my 2 cents. My comments may **** a few off, but it is just my PERSONAL OPINION and is not meant to offend anyone.

*Bonks MSP on the head again*



Great answers, but surely someone can see a real objective I can believe. There has to be a gain for the US.

What are we gaining with the deaths of our armed forces?



The death of our people is a high price to pay.

What are we paying for?



Oh I want to say much more but I am going to hold back for a while on this one.

OMG the WHY's again... have you been speaking with my son?

I wish I could. The concept of war is beyond me. All I can tell you is this quote I found, in response to your interesting post:



In time of war the loudest patriots are the greatest profiteers.

August Bebel

You know the answer, just as we all do.



We gain nothing more than a military presence in another country. Nothing more.



Just expansion when and if needed.



Nothing has been or is being accomplished. Just death, and wasted resources.