Freak Of Nature

I have a condition called antimetropia  ( a form of anisometropia) which means I am far sighted in my left eye and near sighted in my right eye. It is actually not completely uncommon but my particular situation is so extreme I have yet to meet an optometrist who has seen another patient like me. Most people with the condiditon only suffer from like a 2 to 5 diopeter difference. Mine is a whopping 15 diopeter difference! My right eye is currently at -9.0 and the left is at +4.5. Which means extreme near sightedness in the right and I am quite far sighted in the left.  The difference is so great that both of my eyes cannot be corrected at once with glasses. As a child I wore glasses but had to alternate between two pairs, one for my right eye which I would wear for two weeks and the other for my left eye which would be worn for one week at a time. The only way to correct both of my eyes at once is with contact lenses which I have worn since I was 13. So for me contacts are a necessity and not a luxury. Like many people with the condition one of my eyes is weaker than the other. My left eye can only be corrected to 20/30 whereas my right can go to 20/25. Complications from this are I lack some depth perception which made me quite clumsy as a child when I had to wear glasses that only allowed me to see out of one eye at a time which made me poor at sports and the object of ridicule. I seem to have slight "double vision" which I have learned to ignore for the most part as well as I have a "lazy eye" which if you pay attention looks slightly smaller than my other eye. I have fortunately not had any trouble getting a driver's liscence, at least not in the US, I did have to get a referral from an army optometrist to get one when we were stationed in Germany. But a fear of mine is one day that bit of independence will be taken away. I have optemtrists look at me with disbelief and wonder how I am functioning as well as I am. I credit that to a superb and determined doc I had throughout my childhood. I also suffered much ridicule as a child due to the complications from this condition and have even had a some as an adult. Sometimes, even with my contacts I have to look at something closely to read it because remember I cannot be corrected to 20/20 and I have people tell me I need glasses...not understanding I am alreasy wearing them. :-p I have also had mixed opinions on whether or not any laser refractive surgeries would benefit me so I am not sure those are an option. I created this group hoping to find someone else out there like me as I have always felt like a freak of nature. Alas, I have a feeling I will be the only member...at least for a very long time. Haha. I hope I am wrong.

Here is the wikipedia article on anisometropia and it talks about antimetropia. It even mentions the whole having to wear contacts thing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anisometropia
Onedayacometwillfall Onedayacometwillfall
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31 Responses Jul 30, 2010

Hi, I came across your blog it feels good to know i am not the only one with this issue. I recently got antimetropia due to losing my natural lens in an injury and now i am -6 on my good eye and +8 on my good eye. i was wondering if contacts is the only treatment for this condition? has anyone here tried prism glasses for the double vision?

You are not alone. I also am very near/far sited . 20/30 right eye.....20/200 left. I have heard that extremely near sited people are more likely to have a detached retina....which I did.

I have it too and I don't drive

I'm twenty and I just learned this was a thing. I'm pretty sure my left eye has always been dominant, but I never really realized it until I knew to watch for it. I've only been wearing glasses since I was fifteen. My most recent glasses prescription before my last exam was +0.25, +0.25, plus astigmatism correction, about two years ago. Recently, I realized my right eye had been alarmingly blurry and cloudy, so I made an appointment with a new eye doctor for an exam. I was given a printed prescription and he didn't really say anything about it, and I went to Zenni Optical to order my new glasses. I didn't really even know what the prescription meant, but I typed it in as instructed. Zenni's site prompted me to check the prescription for accuracy as it said my new SPH, -0.25 and +0.50, were very rare, having both a positive and negative value. I checked and it was correct. I wondered how rare it could be, and what it meant, so I did a bit of searching and eventually stumbled upon this group. I can identify with a lot of the concerns you listed. For instance, I have always had a little bit of trouble with depth perception. Obviously, the difference is less that one DP in my eyes, so it's not very dramatic, but let me assure you that it's definitely there. I'm hoping that receiving glasses that actually fix my issue at hand will improve my life tenfold.

I just got diagnosed with antimetropia today. I also used to have amblyopia which still prevents me from being able to cross my eyes I've gone my whole life wearing glasses.. But the doctor told me today he was "shocked I made it this far into life being undiagnosed and wearing glasses." He said that I need to definitely consider contacts.. Also this is apparently the reason I always get headaches. I'm so glad I found this page because it feels like I'm the only one who has it.😣

I have had antimetropia since I was a child, and got my first pair of glasses in the third grade. My left eye is very nearsighted while my right eye is farsighted, but not as severely as the left eye is nearsighted. Counterintuitively, my left eye, which requires a much stronger prescription, appears to be dominant eye. I say this because, while looking at something, if I cover the right eye, the object will become blurry, but will maintain its apparent location in space. However, if, instead, I cover the left eye, the object seems to shift to a different location, though it remains non-blurry. However, the change to blurriness of seeing through only the left eyes does not seem to be as much of a jarring shift as when I look through the right eye and it suddenly seems like the my whole orientation has changed. I've always been forgetful, and consistently lose my glasses, resulting in going for long periods of time without glasses at all, and am able to do so reasonably well, including driving. One eye doctor told me that I really didn't need to wear glasses all the time because my eyes kind of made up for each other. However, sometimes I just get tired of not seeing things clearly enough, and then I break down and get new glasses. I would not want to get eye surgery because I enjoy having the option to see things blurry, as its kind of fascinating to me. Sometimes I'll spend long periods of time looking at the world just through the left eye to see what I can make out. Although from an objective standpoint I cannot make out letters on signs and so forth with my left eye, perhaps because of its dominance and the fact that most of my life I've looked at things without glasses, my brain is able to translate blurry images into what they're supposed to be with amazing accuracy, which I can then confirm by opening my right eye. I can't see even the big letters clearly in an eye test with my left eye, but I can look at the blur for a little while and start to figure out what it is. But it's a process that takes time rather than instantly being able to read the letters right off.

I was diagnosed with antimetropia a couple weeks ago. I've been wearing glasses for computer use for 5+ years to correct astigmatism. The glasses quit doing their job sometime around January 2014, so I thought I needed a new presc<x>ription. I finally got around to seeing my optometrist in June. He diagnosed me with a cataract in my right eye and referred me to an ophthalmologist. The ophthalmologist diagnosed me with antimetropia as well as cataracts in both eyes, the right eye being more in need of a lens implant than the left. Three days ago, I had right-eye surgery. I paid an additional $1000 out-of-pocket to have a toric lens implanted--which replaces the cataract lens and corrects astigmatism at the same time. Now it's a bit disappointing to discover that I don't need glasses to read the computer screen but I still have the blurred vision caused by the antimetropia. The ophthalmologist said we far-near-sighted folks compensate for the it so it's not necessary to correct it. I was better off not knowing that I have it since I accepted my eyesight as 'normal' (prior to the cataracts) and didn't know the difference! For now, I'll attempt to get used to this new blurry normal. Perhaps it's too soon after the surgery to see the end result.

My son was only 18 months old when we kind of found out by accident that he had this problem. Being so young his brain would switch from eye to eye depending on which one was clearer for what he was looking at. I had taken him to a family dr because I thought his eye looked pink and we had a friend whose kids had pink eye so I was being overly cautious. The dr noticed a very slight amblyopia and said we should see a pediatric opthamologist just to be safe. The eye dr looked very confused when trying to do the exam, brought another dr in to re-check his finding before telling us what he found. Aside from the antimetropia, he also has a pretty extreme case of mylenated nerve fiber on one eye. They put him into glasses right away (which are not easy to keep on an 18mo old!) He is 6 now and as of a couple days ago at the eye dr his vision is +5.25 and -9.50. Amazingly with his glasses he actually sees almost 20/20 out of both eyes and his dr tells me every time how amazed she is at how well he sees. She's convinced that had we not caught it as soon as we did, he'd probably be blind in one eye. Every time I get new glasses for him they call the dr because they truly believe the prescription was written wrong (I've come to expect it) :)
I worry all the time about his vision and have been told by several people that I'll need to get him into contacts as early as possible. I'm not looking forward to that, but I take each day as it comes and am just so thankful that his outcome has been as good as it has so far.

Wow, so is he able to wear glasses that correct both eyes? As a kid, I had to alternate between 2 pairs of glasses (one for each eye with a "balanced" lens in front of the eye not being corrected) because they did not think my brain would be able to handle it since glasses sit in front of the eyes rather than on them like contacts. It was even tried once by accident, too, (when they messed up an order on a pair of glasses for me ) and I felt like I was drunk when I put on the glasses. So, that's very good if he has adjusted to one pair for both eyes.

Hi, that is an amazing difference. I have been a myope since 13 and a few years ago started to get double vision and no one can explain it. I could not stand prism glasses so I mainly go around with nothing at home (minus 4.5 and 3.7) but put just one contact lense in when I go out or drive with glasses on an angle. So my right becomes farsighted and the left near sighted and most of the time I think the brain blocks the image unless I am reading something close up. The left also enlarges objects so I avoid a lens in that one. I had vitrectomy for an epiretinal membrane (left)and the right has had a PVD. You will be as risk of retina damage with such a high myope and at least the PVD lowers the risk for me in this eye but floaters annoying.But I felt frustrated with all the specialists giving me no answers to what suddenly caused this in middle age. I am lucky as my surgery was six years ago and so sign of a cataract and 80 percent have them withone one year of the surgury.But I am happy being a myope rather than farsighted as all people my age seem to need glasses for menus etc.

Great i just knew two days ago i have Antimetropia. my left is negative and my right is positive, and i have to be corrected with glasses as soon as possible. the doctor who consulted me said i was suppose to wear glasses when i was just nine but i have never noticed anything wrong with me until last summer when i have frequent headaches and i could hardly see the board going back to school . my left eye is worse than my right. when I found out about it I turned to the internet and found this article. The doctor said this condition is rare and I was afraid it would bother me a lot. It was really comforting when I read your article. I was glad that someone would feel the same way as I do.

wow another antimetrope!!! :-) I just found out today that i have antimetropia. I haven't been to the eye doc since i was a kid, when i was prescribed glasses that I never could never wear. (severe headaches) I was learning about eyes because I have had a spot in my vision for a month now and besides being annoying, it was kinda scary. No less so, now that I know my retina may be starting to detach. Anyways, one article led to another, and threw basic self testing and a whole lot of searching, I found your posting. I too am hyperopic in my left and myopic in my right. I'm not sure the strength difference, but i assume its close to yours, as how u described your symptoms brings back allot of memories. From what i've read, our condition seems to be very rare. And well, guess I just wanted u to know your not alone :-) Thanks for posting your story, because now I know that I'm not a complete freak of nature lol

I used to have great difficulty due to a -4.5 in one eye and a +1.5 in the other. I had daily headaches and had to shut one eye to read. I started wearing bifocals when I was 15 and trifocals when I was 40. I started having to put a sheer color page over papers I was trying to type in order to see them. I also put one on my computer monitor. These helped some, but it was still pretty miserable trying to use my eyes. What saved me was that I developed early cataracts. When I started seeing triple traffic lights at night and had a panic attack one time during extreme rain and dark because I couldn't see the side of the road, I went back to my optometrist who sent me to the ophthalmologist. He told me that I shouldn't really drive at night until after cataract surgery because my night glare vision was 20/100. I had the surgery, both eyes, with corrective lens implants, and now see 20/20 for distance and only have to wear reading glasses. The daily headaches are a thing of the past. I still tend to close one eye to read when I'm really tired because I still get a bit of double vision then. I am thrilled with the results. I had always wanted LASIK but could never afford it.

I'm -4.50 and +4.75 and it's a pain in the *** so I can't imagine what you're going through. Cheers

I have the same condition, but it is not really a disadvantage since I can almost always see clearly with one eye. The only difficulty I have experienced is when I want to focus on an object about 1.5 meters away - often in an art gallery. An ophthalmologist once told me that not infrequently women would ask him for surgical correction in one eye to achieve antimetropia so that they did not need to wear correcting lenses. What does puzzle me is why I can still see in 3D. This is the case when using red/cyan 3D glasses to see images. I do have a pair of spectacles with different refractive lenses (which I never use) to correct the condition, but when I do use them for looking at 3D images with the red/cyan filters the result is much better. I am now 66 years of age.
AIH

I have this condition as well! I wear glasses : +3.25 sph right and -1.00 sph, -0.75cyl left. I am getting used to wearing glasses and i cannot figure out if i am using my right eye at all and if yes, how much information does it provide. My left eye is the dominant eye. How can this be tested?<br />
Looking forward to meet other peopke with similar stories.

Hi there. I'm an Optometrist. I have not seen anyone close to the magnitude of your condition. Except for one patient. This patient had corneal transplant in both eyes. Which resulted in a 12D difference. One eye is +6.00, the other is -6.00!<br />
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12D, 15D difference is way too much. It is really weird and rare for that to happen to someone without any kind of intervention to the eye. Even with surgical refractive procedures complications, I have never heard of a 15D anisometropia.<br />
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Your childhood doctor is amazing. ba<x>sed on what you said, you don't even have amblyopia. Which is also amazing considering the anisometropia! If this tells us anything, it's that someone had taken excellent care of your eyes when you were a child. <br />
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As to what procedures could be done to your eyes. I'm not giving any professional opinion here, just some thoughts or highlights for you to research or ask a professional when you visit them.<br />
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Let's start wit the left eye. If the cornea was thick enough, the might be able to reduce that amount using the excimer laser. If it was too thin, you could consider INTACS (intra corneal rings), you could also consider ICLs (intracorneal lens). The goal here is to reduce the large amount of refractive error you have.<br />
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Same thing could be said for the right eye, But I think you'll be OK with contact lenses. Unless you have a high astigmatism, which you didn't talk about.<br />
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Anyway, I wish you the best of luck.<br />
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Abdullah Alsadoon, Optometrist.<br />
Saudi Arabia

Wow! I'm not the only one. :-) I am nearsighted in my right eye and farsighted in my left. My left eye also has astigmatism. <br />
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I didn't get diagnosed until I was 12 and that was only because I couldn't read things that were far away. My eye doctor told me I should wear contacts, but this was way back in the old days and my only option was ridged gas-permeable lenses. They were terrible! They hurt, I could see the outer rim of the contact every time I bl<x>inked, and I just wasn't old enough or responsible enough to take care of them. I ended up just not wearing them.<br />
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When I was about to turn 16, I went back to the eye doctor so that I could get my driver's license. I refused contacts and got glasses. Once I was in college, I got contacts again (by this time they were soft lenses), but I never liked the lens for my left eye with the astigmatism. I wouldn't even wear that contact half the time.<br />
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Now I'm 40 and I wear one contact in my right/nearsighted eye when I'm out and about, but I wear my glasses which correct both of my eyes when I'm at home. (I work at home, so I actually wear them a lot.) My eye doctor is amazed at how well I see out of my left eye. He said that 99 out of 100 people in my situation would be blind in my left eye and would have debilitating headaches, yet he can correct my left eye to 20/20 and I rarely ever get headaches. Oh, and my left eye got stronger once I started consistently wearing my glasses. <br />
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I passed my two most recent vision tests for my driver's licence by telling them I had mono-vision. <br />
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I don't know what the diopeter difference is between my eyes...I'll ask next time I go see my optometrist. <br />
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Nice to meet all of you!

i know how hard it is and i thought everybody couldn't see much with the other eye.. i thought it was normal till my friend found out when she put a kaleidoscopic to my right and i said that i couldnt see from that eye. Im 20 years old now turning 21 in march...<br />
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i don't know the diopter difference to what they have told me. they called it grades or power? i know i seem stupid right now because i cant explain it very well. my left eye is 175 and my right is 1200.<br />
because what i have read on the previous posts has -OS +OD and all. <br />
Anyways to make things a little clear my left eye is like 70% of vision, my right 50%. The thing that i am most worried about is when i get older, will it get worse? I really hope we all can get better :(

i know how hard it is and i thought everybody couldn't see much with the other eye.. i thought it was normal till my friend found out when she put a kaleidoscopic to my right and i said that i couldnt see from that eye. Im 20 years old now turning 21 in march...<br />
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i don't know the diopter difference to what they have told me. they called it grades or power? i know i seem stupid right now because i cant explain it very well. my left eye is 175 and my right is 1200.<br />
because what i have read on the previous posts has -OS +OD and all. <br />
Anyways to make things a little clear my left eye is like 70% of vision, my right 50%. The thing that i am most worried about is when i get older, will it get worse? I really hope we all can get better :(

Hello there,<br />
I also have this condition and I found out about this a few years ago. I probably had it before that check but didn't realise this. Mine is not so extreme, -1.00 OS and +3.00 OD (some degree of astigmatism as well, but i can't remember the numbers). At the beginning I didn't get the full strength glasses (i didn't wear glasses before) because there was a concern of adjustment of eyes working together. I have now the full strength - each yearly visit meant a change in glasses and increase in diopters. (i suspect this will happen again next year). I searched the web to find other similar stories but I couldn't find anything, until I bumped into this website. By the way, the optometrist never mentioned that I have antimetropia. I wonder if I should have further tests done or not. I find that wearing the glasses works only for distance - and I don't know when to wear them and when to take them down - and if I wear them when it's unconfortable, my eyes get tired sooner. (any advice?)<br />
glad to have found this thread!!

That gives me hope because the optemetrist I am currently seeing said he thought my nearsightedness was too bad for LASIK to correct. But your husband was more nearsighted than me. Like you I could only have it on my right eye but still that would be better than nothing. Would be great if I could correct BOTH eyes with glasses and wear contacts because I WANT to and not because I have to.

my husband did have LASIK surgery in 1999 he was a -11.00 OU and -12.75 OS with astigmatism , for 6 months after he was still reaching for his eyeglasses lol. He had an excellent surgeon and until this past year (he is 43) he didn't need glasses, now he wears them to read since he has "short arm syndrome" or as he calls it, the "B" word and the "F" word (bifocal and forty) his patients think it's hysterical. I have thought about LASIK but it can only be done on my right eye (LASIK can't be done on hyperopia: far sightedness) my husband says it may help cut down on the disparity I have with my eyes. It may be worth looking into, BUT do not go to these fly by night laser surgery centers, I have seen horrific results from that.

I also have antisometropia and cant see 3D, and that cringing eye doctor happens to be my husband lol. Since I live with this on a daily basis and work in the industry as well, I'll share what has worked for me. <br />
There are alot of solutions:<br />
1.have your eye doctor check to see if you may need prism(very common for those of us who have anisometropia). Having prism in my eyeglass lenses has helped immensely with the migraines, depth perception and reading and night driving<br />
2. Try anti reflective coatings on your lenses, not only is it aesthetically pleasing (you don' see the lenses) but it helps cut the glare from headlights(starburst effect) over head lights,glare from computer screens and the unwanted glare when you try to read PLUS it also warranties your lenses against scratching. The two best anti reflective coatings by far is crizal alize (Essilor) and super hi-vision(Hoya)<br />
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3. Try wearing 3 piece mounts (rimless eyeglasses) silhouette, Marchon airlock, Kawasaki and swissflex are all excellent 3 piece mounts. Not having a fr<x>ame around my lenses helps with depth perception and makes driving, reading and computer work easier .<br />
4. Try trivex or polycarbonate lenses, both are naturally UV resistant and are also impact resistant. I would suggest trivex since the optics are so much clearer.<br />
5. Try a progressive lens(no line bifocal) it helps with the reading and cuts down on the eye strain caused by your eyes not working together. And it's definitely not an "age" thing because we have many patients,who are children that wear progressives, ( thank game boys, cell phones, etc) optometrists prescribe these routinely in children because it slows the progression of their eyesight worsening.<br />
6. For those with high presc<x>ription(+ or -)go with the thinnest lens out there (Hoya 1.71 single vision or progressive is an excellent lens) the thicker the lens the more likely you are to get distortions. Plus for those that are hyperopic (far sighted) the thinner lenses cut down on the bug eye effect (anti reflective coatings help with that too)<br />
7. Vision therapy- there are many excellent eye docs out there that specialize in it, it is expensive and most insurance companies don't pay for it, but it doesn't hurt to find out and has really helped alot of people.<br />
8. Polarized sunglasses( presc<x>ription or plano-non rx). polarization cuts 100% of all surface glare, no more seeing the dashboard on the windshield, fisherman love them because they can see fish in the water and golfers can see their golf balls in the water. Maui Jim, costa del mar and Oakley all have excellent polarized lenses and they all do presc<x>ription sunglasses.<br />
9. One of my biggest problems is computer screens, with being anisometropic with astigmatism and prism, i have the hardest time with the glare and reading,since my eyes don't work together. I wear a pair of silhouettes(rimless) with a Hoya tact lens and prism, this lens is specifically designed just for computers. IF I don't wear them I end up with migraines and tired eyes. Computer eye syndrome is one of the fastest growing eye problems, people stare at screens all day long and end up with severe eye strain or dry eyes (neat trick, put the word bl<x>ink on the top of your screen, every time you look at it you will bl<x>ink, weird but it works and cuts down on the dry eye which can make your vision blurry)<br />
I wish you all the best of luck and being a freak of nature is not such a bad thing, just makes us unique:D<br />
I really hope some of this helps all of you, although I am partial to my eye doctor, he truly understands my problem and has tried everything with me (im the lucky guinea pig lol) and he has many patients with the same condition and everything i have suggested doesn't"cure" our anisometropia but has made it much easier to cope with.

@Zulqarnain946 You are the first person I have encountered who has this condition as severely as I do. (Actually more so from the way it sounds.) I feel some sense of relief because I was beginning to feel like the only one!

Hello , After reading all this , i can safely say that i am the most senior member of this little group. I Am 27 years old , but my left eye is -11.75 with about 60% vision and my right eye is +5.25 with about 70 % vision. And i can't use both of my eyes together yet but my doctor is trying diffrent com's of lenses to fix it.<br />
Glad to find out that i am not alone.<br />
(My condition is caused by my doctor because he removed naturel lense of my right eye during a retinal detachment surgery. )

hey @Zulqarnain946 i have the same condition as you, my lens was removed on my right eye as well due to retina detachment. have you found any solutions that have worked for you?

A visit to the optometrist identified antimetropia for me a couple of years ago. I had thought it was my advancing years that was causing problems with my eyesight. Now I wonder if I have actually always had it but the aging eyes are amplifying, for want of a better word, it. I've had a lot of frustrations. I have distance glasses but the moment I need to read anything I have to take them off and then I've got the problem of 43 year old eyes that need reading glasses. I also have trouble with the glasses in stores. The flourescent lighting and all the reflective surfaces makes it hard for me to look at things on the shelves. <br />
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So obviously I am still exploring my best options for living with my weird eyes. I had assumed that I would find plenty of info online but there is so little! <br />
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So glad to find this and to read of other posters experiences.

@oncereader Yeah, on tp of my freakish 15 diopter diff I also have astigmatism. :-p I have met others with this issue but at most they only have a 5 diop diff. I have never ever ever met anyone like me and I doubt I ever will. Sometimes, I wonder...just how in the hell did this happen??? Haha! I would check out the contacts if I were you. They are definitely a better option for me and I have worn them comfortably for 15 years. If they say the comfort issue is because of your astigmitism Acuvue makes contacts specifically for people with this and as far as cost I usually need to get another couple boxes once a year (though by dr recommendation it should be 6 mos but i make mine last as long as possible.) this runs me about $115 and then I buy a bottle of solution prob about every 3 or 4 weeks which is about $8 a bottle. So expenses are not too too bad.

I have the same problem, although luckily the difference between both of my eyes is less than 3. But I also have astigmatism, so at 47 years of age I can no longer read or even walk outside comfortably without glasses. Optometrists always have trouble checking my eyesight; also, some say I absolutely should wear contacts, others say that contacts would be too expensive and uncomfortable in my case, so I should keep wearing glasses. I think it's very frustrating that in this age of super-technology people with our problem cannot yet get a solution for our problem.

My daughter Mercy has had this since she was five. She now As Od: +3.58 &OD: -2.55 with a best value at 20/30 & 20/25. I worry that her vision will get worse. She is wearing glasses however- the left and the right differing in value. Her dr. insists that as soon as she can feasibly tolerate them she needs to get contacts. Why did you have to wear two different pairs? Is it not good for Mercy to have two different lenses for the right and left eye? This is new for us. SO I'm just concerned.<br />
Thanks.

Heh, it sounds as though your condition is pretty similar to mine! I am happy to meet someone else who knows what its like to have the optometrist cringe when you go in for an exam. :-)

I have that same thing, I didn't read your whole post though because I have to keep one eye closed to do it and if I want to look at anything else I have to check which eye to use to do it and it gives me a headache. <br />
My opticians hide when I go into the shop, they hate me. I can't read with my reading glasses unless I hold the print up to my face and if I wear my distance specs I have to hold the book or whatever at further than arms length.<br />
My eyes are weird weird weirdo eyes but I canSEEE