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I Know That "fact" And "truth" Are Two Different Things

Fact Or Truth?

By: SaratogaGirl
Written on December 24th, 2010
Age: 26-30 , Female
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  • dissolvedplasmaterial

    P.S. - There are obviously cases where you do not know if a proposition corresponds with reality or not. In these cases, you do not know whether that proposition is a fact or not, and you do not know whether it is true or not. But not knowing doesn't make it any more or less of a fact/truth. I don't get why it would.

    Sep 1, 2012
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  • dissolvedplasmaterial

    You are so epistemically confused that this entire group doesn't make sense at all.



    "Does this mean I think that all religious books and philosohpy books are fiction? Not at all -- only the most literal mind, incapable of stretching to the truth I am trying to convey, would think that. What I mean is that these authors are striving to touch the TRUTHS of the world, of our lives, or our meaning, of our destiny, of our existence."



    So... the information contained there is not factual, but it's truth. But facts are just propositions that are true. Any proposition that is true would be a fact.



    I think you're confusing empirical knowledge with non-empirical knowledge. There can be facts learned without empiricism, and facts learned with empiricism, and both are true. If something is not true, it's not a fact, and if something is not a fact, then it's not true.



    Something is not "true" just because a person believes that it's true, that would make the word "truth" the same as "believe" and it would be a useless word. True is an adjective describing the state of a proposition as corresponding to what actually is. A fact is a proposition that corresponds to what actually is. A truth would be the noun version of "true", so it would be the same thing as a fact.

    Sep 1, 2012
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  • SaratogaGirl

    A Totally Awesome Lion God.

    Jan 3, 2011
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  • Arorin

    totally

    Jan 3, 2011
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  • SaratogaGirl

    An awesome lion god.

    Jan 3, 2011
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  • Arorin

    A lion god!

    Jan 3, 2011
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  • SaratogaGirl

    I believe you are a lion.

    Jan 3, 2011
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  • Arorin

    I believe I am a god!

    Jan 3, 2011
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  • SaratogaGirl

    Perhaps, but I think I would be more worried about those who believe only what they see, not what they can intuit.

    Jan 3, 2011
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  • Arorin

    You would get so much hate mail from people, like the ones who don't believe the holocaust happen. You will need a good body guard!

    Jan 3, 2011
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  • SaratogaGirl

    Thank you laffs.... I have found profound Truth in dealing with other people, and of having other people open themselves to me, their minds, their hearts and their souls.

    Dec 24, 2010
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