Why Can't We Get Real?

It's simple, it's even stated in the bible, people are sheep, they need something to worship. Think about it, big religion, superstars, mega sports, politics and so on. Like stated below it's one tool to control the masses, produce power and wealth. It doesn't matter if it's real or not.
It is fascinating to me, I watch people I know and work with and even the most devoted will interpret their religion for their own conveniences. Human nature is such a funny thing.

Well they statistically live longer than athiestic realists, and are happier, so maybe they are doing something right.



Religion, legitimate or illegitimate, serve a positive place in the human psyche, and benefits us. If you can't conceive of the possibility that there are beings in the universe greater than yourself, maybe you should worship the sun. Neosolarism doesn't require any cosmological leaps or believe in something you can't see, merely a reverence for the sun as a source of life, creation, and immense power, and a respect for other beings dependant on the sun for their existence.



And you will live statistically longer, and be happier.

I suppose practicing this "religion" would involve learning about the sun, and recognizing it in your thoughts as a great power which we are dependant on.

When I was younger I had all sorts of opinions about almost any subject. If I recall, when I was about 18, I pretty much thought I knew most everything--and I was sure if there was something I didn't know--I certainly could find out. lol... When I was in boarding school, and would ask the sisters questions, unless they were questions about subjects other than religion, the nuns usually would answer with, "It's a mystery." I was always very angry with them for that. Now that I am a bit older (hahaha "quite a bit older") and have all the years of experience.. I have come to agree with the nuns. "It's a mystery." :)

I just want religion to stay out of the classroom, that evolution would be accepted as valid there instead of paired with "Creationism". I have no real strong feelings about other people's beliefs, as long as they have no strong feelings about converting me.

I respect that, Caliper, and love ya for sayin' that. I do respect all people's beliefs, I just have to write of my intellectual disappointment in it all, I guess...I hope I am not hurting anyone, perhaps I am. That's another group called 'I am Too Opinionated'. LOL.

Interesting about an observatory in Arizona. It ties in with one of my theories about what is going on! It's too deep to write of here, I may have to make another group. tee hee hee

About morality and church, last night I did some research on the number of women getting abortions and who they are percentage-wise. White, upper middle class women who claim to be Reborn/Evangelical have over 35% of the abortions in this country because the baby is 'inconvenient'.

Right to lifers say this is a moral and ethical issue, and that women are using abortion for birth control. I guess it's really true about the birth control part, according to the statistics.

If abortion is immoral, the moral majority seem to be doing it the most.

Sometimes, morality in religious people is just a self-serving lie and cover for their actual deeds, you know?

Hence, some of my mistrust in religion.

I think religion is a control mechanism for the masses. I am glad religion doesn't have an iron grip on what people in America can believe. I do however think that God is a part of us all and all living life is connected.

I don't preach to anyone, I don't think that God is separate from us but a part of us all.

I know that the Catholic Church is very involved in the sciences, in the attempt to sift through what is real or a leap of faith. I know they are very interested in the possibility of extraterrestial life and have stated as much. the Catholic church footed half the cost for an observatory with the University of Arizona. So watching the heavens physically is a part of their real observation of physical sciences.

I think until all of mankind truely begins to think for itself, belief in God will prevail as the failsafe mechanism to keep us all on the same page in the moral approach to life with our fellow human beings.

hmmm redwoodbeaner, that is interesting. Science in history--Greek mathematician, Archimedes (287-212 BC) worked on mechanical theories and, and is quoted as having said "There are things which seem incredible to most men who have not studied mathematics."

That is just one of the sciences that has led us to this modern time of knowledge. Another of Archimedes theories explained the formal proof for the principle of specific gravity. If we didn't have real science, well...we'd still be pretty primitive.

Most things once ascribed to 'miracles' and 'gods' have been explained with science.

We have no need of 'god', it is an antiquated concept.

I believe all those stories of creation have scientific origins. Remember that there are ancient civilizations that have accomplished things we can't explain, this means they knew things we don't. I believe science is the real origin of all our beliefs but everybody interprets things just a little different and those early different interpretations have had a long time to evolve amongst all the generations after them.

Here, here. Well said.

For me, the distinction between people and their beliefs is difficult to make, as beliefs inform actions. Beliefs are OK - the actions that result from those can be unforgivable.