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I Live In a Sexless Marriage

Passive Aggressive Behavior

By: Warriorpoett
Written on March 9th, 2011
Age: 56-60 , Male
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  • Wfightergirl

    Hi goodness, have only just realized accepted that my man is classic p.a.! What a shock - I feel like our 20 years together have been a total waste.

    Accet he will not change unless he wants to. Is there a way of bringing it up that might actually cause them to reflect inwardly or am I just being way too hopeful? Naive even?

    Apr 16
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    • Warriorpoett

      PAs are seldom interested in changing because they don't see anything wrong with them. It's always everyone else who has the problems never them and with that outlook getting them to change is nearly impossible and after 20 years expecting change is like waiting for the tooth fairy.

      Apr 16
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    • beckyboozer73

      Mine has changed some, it does happen but not very quickly. My husband read some of this stuff and some of the comments I made and things I wrote and he was a little down. He said seeing it in writing, and the analogies I made about his past, made him realize he had a lot more blame than he accepted. He said, "I am really ****** up." He has finally realized his part in the downfall if his first marriage, before it was "ALWAYS her fault," and "SHE was just a *****." He finally realize he had a huge part in running himself out of his marriage. This was HUGE for him. Getting him to see it was difficult until he read my words on here. It's progress. He is still frustrating to argue with, but hell so am I. Baby steps I guess.....but I am only five years in. There had been much progress, but with twenty years I can't say....mine will never be perfect but we are understanding each other better. When they first start to actually see it, there is a lot of hope. He has done things differently, tried new ways, so I will take that. People can grow....depends on the person. Good luck to you.

      Apr 16
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    • Warriorpoett

      You have to realize though that we all have a certain amount of P/A in us. Just because someone has some P/A tendencies does not make them a full blown P/A such as would have been diagnosed under the DSM-IV Codes. A hardcore Passive Aggressive is almost impossible to change because it is a fundamental facet of their personality and always has been. Someone that has some tendencies can certainly change because it has not taken over their whole personality and they have other characteristics that allow them to see the problem and to actually work on changing the problem behaviors. But the thing is how much right do we have to expect a person to remold themselves into the image that we want them to be? If we cannot accept someone as they are without majorly revamping their personality then there is a fundamental problem in the relationship that includes you as well. We do not have the right to remake people into the image of our expectations of what we think they should be, that is ultimately selfish and another sort of problem that can wreck a relationship because few people will tolerate being remade in someone else's image. Ultimately it usually results in resentment and finally rebellion and often will sabotage the relationship somewhere down the road. We have to learn to love people as they are and to either accept them or move on and find someone who is a better fit with us. If we find that we cannot fit in with anyone then it is time to do some introspection and look at ourselves to see what we are doing that may be causing our relationships to crack up and fail.

      Apr 16
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  • LythrumSalicaria

    Okay. I find myself facing a horrible dilemma. I am clearly a PA. I genuinely don't want to be. Is there any way for me to fix myself?

    Mar 23
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    • Warriorpoett

      Well recognition of the problem itself is highly unusual so perhaps there is hope. If you recognize that you have a problem then you can work on it by trying to consciously modify your behavior. If you have a partner and can engage them in helping you and you can accept the idea that you must cooperate to get a better life then as an intelligent being you should be able to do better. Don't expect perfection and don't get discouraged if you backslide at times but keep focused on moving forward. That is the best advice I can give you, but recognize that everyone has some measure of P/A in their personality only when it gets carried to extremes is it the problem that I talked about in the passage above.

      Mar 23
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    • beckyboozer73

      Wow, so good that you recognize it. First step. :)

      Apr 16
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  • gypsyblu

    my sexless PA doesn't call me names, makes no snide remarks, never puts me down with any verbal remarks...

    but he refuses to make a life with me. treats me like a room mate not a spouse. he is just a shell of a man. he reminds me of the song "NO WHERE MAN" BY THE BEATLES

    he has no hobbies out side of watching tv and trolling on the p/c... now he is living with the after math of a heart attack ,where they placed a stent in.

    Mar 13
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    • GibbySan

      Did you ever watch that video I posted about the empty vending machine?

      Mar 15
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    • gypsyblu

      Gibby yes, I just saw it about a month ago and iv been on this forum for a few years now, DUH!! thank you so much for sharing it, it really opened my eyes...

      Mar 15
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  • earchres

    Perfect description of my husband! Thank you. I won't waste my time sharing it with him. He likes himself just the way he is; and he ain't gonna change! Now that I know I am changing. I am learning to let him go. Calling him out on his BS does no good. He'll still find a way to blame for his choices. It's really mind-blowing to me! Thank you WP. I wish I had read this years ago.

    Mar 12
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  • beckyboozer73

    My husband has spent a lifetime suppressing his feelings, and avoiding dealing with things. He responds to the world by playing games, thinking somehow there is a "winner," when it's only more degrees of separation and loss that is gained. His entire family is out of touch with their emotions, in fact his sister recently alluded that she had some sort of problem with me but would not say for "fear" of making trouble. He called her, and text her to no avail, she avoided him at every turn, would not talk about whatever her little problem was, and to this very day they never ironed it out. That family can make a career out of avoidance. In turn, I avoid them as much as possible. I do not need easily offended people in my life that quietly judge and never air a single thing. I'm a very open person, this kind of oppression is like death to me.As far as my husband, he is definitely the best of the bunch, he can talk and admit things, but they do have to be dragged out of him, unlike his sister who never cracks. However I am the emotional backbone of our relationship and family. I provide the words that he can't seem to even form, I smooth out all our troubles and my emotionally pushy ways are perfect for him, because otherwise if I was just like him I we would ignore ourselves out of a marriage. In fact, he ignored himself out of his first marriage. He never could quite say what went wrong in his past marriage, always blamed everything on his ex-wife, but one time he let out that they were not speaking for the last six or seven months of their marriage, (can you imagine that?,) and being his ex-wife was not emotionally capable of dealing with that she mirrored that behavior back, and one day filed for divorce behind his back and blindsided him on some idle Monday morning....on his way to WORK mind you! To me, her casual treatment of his feelings and the way she ended their marriage, leads me to believe that she most likely suffered years of his games and his withdrawal. She had no regards for his feelings in the divorce, and I am sure it was because she felt that in almost 20 years of being with him from high school on, she never once got her emotional needs met by him. That would be my guess. She probably hated him for all that he could not be.Enter me, I have a better understanding and handle on my husband's behavior than anyone in his entire life ever has. I know what makes him tick, I know when he is playing emotional games and I am used to him shutting down and walking out of the room. I am well versed on his passive aggressive behavior, I know how he avoids confrontation at all costs and I know he hates to ever be wrong. Do I let him get away with this? No I do not. I push him, I get things out of him because I am relentless....sometimes a fight can go on for days before we get to the point where we can talk openly. Being that I am an emotional person, my behavior makes it so that he can slide the blame to me....whether he was originally wrong he somehow thinks that my reaction and my anger overrides anything he could have "possibly" done, so naturally the fault must lye with me. In his family, the louder wheel was the wrong party. Emotions were not expressed and if they were it was seen as "starting problems." That is how he views me, I "start problems" by never letting anything go. Therefore in his mind he can say that the entire marriage and all it's problems is on my shoulder because I am the one who won't shut up. In his mind he is being quiet, non-confrontational, and his shutting down is more respectable than my yelling, so being what he perceives the "calm one" gets him off the hook from taking any blame for anything. It's a viscous cycle and it never seems to stop. I also can;t be calm with him, because his shutting down and walking away is infuriating to someone like me who has always been open and dealt with my problems, not shut them inside. I am the exact opposite of him and I am sure it is not an accident that we are such polars. I believe he was attracted to the kind of person he has never had in his life, who can express herself, and get the best out of him in a way no one else ever could. However it is exhausting for me. Running a relationship, providing the words to emotions he can't ever identify, and being the only one to iron out our differences is so tiring. I feel like his counselor, as well as his wife, (although according to him he does not have any problems. He thinks stuffing down his past and his troubles makes him stronger, where I have told him it's really weakness.) If I do get something painful from his past out of him, he then gets depressed and blames me, because he was happy before, why did I have to go poke around like that? I made problems where there were none in his mind. I just like to try and piece together the bits of this man I am married to and in love with, and being he knows everything about me it is only fair the road go both ways. Knowing now where it all comes from makes it a little easier, but it is still difficult living with someone who will never know when to put a comforting arm around you, who will never comfort you if you cry if before the tears you had pissed him off. Sometimes we have fights, there are times I am at fault, yes, and when I cry in frustration, this man will not give in and hold me and soften up where we can finally talk. I kind of find this action sadistic. No matter what he has done or said to me, when he breaks down, the gloves are off and I am at his side holding him and making him feel better. I do not get this in return. Once his anger is elicited, it burns for quite some time and I feel like I am the enemy until it calms itself over time. It can be lonely knowing that you will never get the nurturing back that you display to a person like this, they are not capable....sometimes he will sit next to me when we fight and I turn on my side sobbing, I can feel him nearby "wanting" to do something but being stopped by something inside him...or because he doesn't know how to comfort as he never was nurtured in life himself.I love my husband very much, he is genuinely a good man, but someone screwed him up long ago and made his opinion, his feelings and his needs unimportant and that disconnect that goes back to the cradle can be tough for anyone to overcome. The protective shell is like a second skin for these kinds of people and to stay in a marriage like this you always have to know that their negative self esteem, and lack of self worth is always going to cause troubles and you have to be like a warrior, heading them off or dealing with their crappy sense of self and not letting their behavior affect your own self esteem. It is tiring. I'm tired of seeing myself as the loud, emotional mess because he can;t ever understand my feelings or refuses to talk about them at any length. It can be very draining at times.......

    Mar 14
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    • Warriorpoett

      There is a book you need to read it is titled Co-Dependent No More by Melody Beattie. You don't see what you are doing because you are too close to the forest to see the trees. The situation you are describing is classic co-dependency and it is ruining your life. But there's hope Co-dependent people can recover with some guidance and once they realize what's going on. But don't feel lonely this is so common here that most of us have tasted this particular poison. But you are going to have to quit worrying about his problems because you can't do anything about his mess he has to own it you CANNOT FIX him. The only person you can do anything for is you and sacrificing yourself on the altar of HIM is screwing you up big time. You are going to have to learn to let him **** himself up and stay out of it that's his problem not yours. But you have made yourself the whipping boy who takes the punishment for his lordship and that just isn't going to work. It will make you into a looney tune sooner or later.

      Mar 12
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    • beckyboozer73

      When I was in counseling I was told that I need to learn to nurture myself, that he is not cut from that kind of cloth and he will never fully meet my needs. This is hard, because when you marry someone you figure you will both be there for each other. You don't expect that you will have to live with someone's emotional shortcomings and that you will nurture but not be nurtured back. I suppose if I was whole, it wouldn't drive me as crazy as it does, I could focus on something else until he wants to get over his distance. It would take the punch out of it, and the fun out it for him. You are right....his **** is his **** and I need to concentrate on me. I am tired of being the emotional gauge for us, and the fixer. He needs to figure it out for himself.

      Mar 12
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    • beckyboozer73

      On a side note with someone like that I do need to pick my battles......going on too much like I do only discredits me and makes him feel like the healthier one.

      Mar 12
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    • GibbySan

      Couple of suggestions: a book called "Living with the Passive Aggressive Man" and also read NYARTGAL's stories.

      When I can finally leave my PA husband, I am going to tell him "I'm sorry your mother screwed you up, but I'm tired of being the one who has to pay for it".

      I have given up trying to reason with my husband. There's no point. You may feel like you get things out of him, but even if you do get him to do something he didn't want to do, he will harbor anger and resentment over it, and continue to punish you. It never ends.

      Mar 12
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    • DeborahManning

      OMG, you are my sister, and we are married to the same guy. The same identical sh*t goes on at my house -- or it did, before I checked out and moved into the spare room! Amazing how NONE of the therapists we saw, his mine or ours, brought up passive aggression or codependence. Because those are my twin pillars of reality now. WarriorPoet's book suggestion is a good one, and there is another called "Living With the Passive-Agressive Man".... but be warned, you may see the relationship start to move in ways you did not expect. You seem strong-minded and reality-based, though, so I think you can take it!

      Mar 15
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  • beckyboozer73

    It seems like some of this article hits home and some parts don't......but I still think it fits overall. You don't have to have every aspect of what was described in this article. However more than s few parts were like describing my relationship to a T. I feel like I am not as nuts as I thought. I am more verbal and much more louder than my husband, because of this ability to express my anger and rage at injustice, this "out of control" behavior, (his view,) provides the prefect scape goat for him to deflect any guilt or wrong doing. I'm the louder one, he's just walking away or ignoring me, so the problem "obviously" is ME......at least that's the consensus anyway. It's never how he was wrong, it's how long I went on "about" how he was wrong that makes ME the wrong party. Aug!! I could pull my hair out sometimes....he outright refuses to take blame for anything. Thank you for posting this, I feel more sand now.

    Mar 12
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    • beckyboozer73

      More sane....not sandy....dang auto correct. :/

      Mar 12
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    • gypsyblu

      Becky I too am the verbal louder one.... yep I had one of my loud verbal rants recently. .went on for about an hour or more! and I gave him the silent treatment for days, then moved into the spare room 2 weeks ago, he has not said one word NADA!!! .... I can tell he is not happy about me sleeping in the spare bed room...

      but I don't care, I don't want to sleep with a man who rejects me, as long as I sleep with him he can play out his bedroom game of refusing me, as he curls up inside his blankets holding on to the edge of the bed to not fall off, that calif size bed has no room for him and his games lol

      Mar 12
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    • beckyboozer73

      Ong! My husband does that too!! He removes his love and affection when we fight, goes to sleep when I am talking, (because he has work after all, uh huh....) and sleeps in Siberia,totally shutting me out. He likes to talk to me the me on the phone the next day, when he is driving long distances for work at his convenience, and I provide all the dialogue and fix everything. We had that ignore game lady night......I refuse to talk to him at work in between stops. He can talk to me in person or not at all! Thanks fir your reply. Friend me if you like, sounds like we have A LOT in common. :)

      Mar 12
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    • beckyboozer73

      Last night....not lady....my iPhone screws up my replies.

      Mar 12
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    • Warriorpoett

      It is never a P/As fault they are master blame shifters no matter what happens it is always someone else who is the problem never them. But you can never get anywhere by playing their game because it simply gives them more ammunition to make it your fault. P/A is seldom fixable because a P/A will never admit that they have a problem it's always your fault. The alternatives are learn to live with it which totally sucks and means you will get emotionally beat up constantly or walk away. Becoming P/A yourself only results in a war that no one will ever win and you get two angry bitter people that end up back to back in a busted relationship. Hating each other but afraid to do anything different.

      Mar 12
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    • beckyboozer73

      I read up on this a little more and realize that I too fit some of these traits. I fit a couple of the ones he doesn't, as well as some of the same. I have also done the worst thing according to one source, I have belittled and degraded his inability to express himself and the past that brought him there. Dysfunction all over the place...... :/

      Mar 12
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  • Warriorpoett

    No doubt it's possible to have two people that are passive aggressive but then you have a constant war of sorts . Co-dependency has an element of passive aggressiveness involved in that as well. But usually you will have one person that dominates the relationship.

    Mar 11
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  • noodleshin

    Is there a posibility of 2 passive aggressive people that are together to switch roles?

    Mar 11
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  • Rae11

    I am married 30 years. Husband retired 2 years ago, I never knew he had PA. I was a career women, retired 7 years ago. 6 years ago, had fights but, this manipulation was 30 years in the making. The past year was the worst. He called me horrible names I cannot repeat, then made fun of my disability, then threatened to lock me up in the attic. That is when I had enough, I told him to leave. It has been 2 months now. He has never called to say I love you and want to come home. Never. He says I'm scary. Me???
    I dont know what happened to this guy, but he went looney tunes big time. I filed for divorce and he is living out of a "motel" room by the month. He wants everyone including me to feel sorry for him. This is how they act,....like a 12 year old..only worse.
    I am scared....but I pray alot for guidance. I feel better, no stress, no anxiety, no anger...he took that with him when he left.
    Oh by the way...only had sex 6 times in the last 15. Sad....really sad. Love to all who are going through this. It only gets worse the older they get. Think real hard about staying with people like this.

    Feb 21
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    • gypsyblu

      yes my sexless p/a is nearly 63, retired 4 years ago, his time is spent trolling on the computer, watching TV then off to bed, he ended up having a heart attack this past x mas do to unhealthy diet and sitting for 4 years.

      he acts like he is lot older then his age. hell my dad is 80 years old and still gets out and does things...and he has only one lung to get by on!

      Mar 12
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  • BeautifulHangover

    I just found out that i am a passive aggressive person, this is the first article or even information i recieved on passive aggressive people, though most responses and this article suggest that men display passive aggressive behavour which is strange as i am a woman. Reading this made me realise the amount of similarities i have and hopefully will change. So thank you for writting this article and better helping me understand mu behavour.

    Jan 27
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    • Warriorpoett

      Passive Aggressive isn't necessarily limited by gender and is common in both sexes. The same goes for Co-dependent behavior which often accompanies it. When you have the combination of a co-dependent enabling a passive/aggressive then you have real problems because then it creates the perfect storm and things usually become severe and very difficult. There is some level of passive aggressiveness in everyone and that's not really abnormal when it gets carried to an extreme then it is a problem and it stands in the way of any kind of normal relationship.

      Jan 27
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  • m00nmeister

    Very illuminating. So much of what was written describes my ex, and I pity the fool she is now involved with, or should I say 'fools', because I think there's more than one. For so long I had heard the term 'passive agressive', but didn't really know what it meant. Thanks for the tutorial. I needed this. :)

    Jan 26
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  • Kokwa

    This was a great deal of help. Extremely accurate to what I have been experiencing with my husband. Now, I would like to seek out who I am and take in my responsibilities in the marriage, then ask for counseling together. I don't care which one of us is the root of the problem, I would just like to fix it.

    Jan 5
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  • dianaj

    Enlightening to say the very least, in the process of divorce from PA husband, want to make darn sure I don't ever make this mistake again - this man has left me little self esteem - called me every filthy name in the book, attacked my character, ethnic background, family, friends, even our children sometimes - been going on for years - he left - thank goodness - in the process of healing - rebuilding myself - trying desperately to heal-drained me of everything including finances - left me with 12 year old car, house in foreclosure - on and on - but that's OK, cuz life is better without his verbal brutality and sabotage. Its alot better, I can finally have friends, interact with my family without his criticism, filthy remarks, watch television (he monopolized TV, common living space) - I can finally co exist with the human race - its like I have been released from a prison camp. - feels so good.

    Dec 27, 2012
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    • gypsyblu

      yep my sexless p/a keeps 2 remotes going, one for each hand ! and if I watch a a program that I enjoy, he sits there with a dissatisfied look uggg.

      Mar 12
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  • Omgmustleave

    Thank you so much. Did the other readers find the courage to act on this, and why am I frozen -- seemingless helpless to act to fix it?

    Dec 23, 2012
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    • Warriorpoett

      Some do and some don't it's a matter of personal choice. But there is no changing these people and there is help out there is you have the courage to seek it out. Good luck I hope you find your solution.

      Dec 23, 2012
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    • gypsyblu

      omg must leave if I don't act ill end up being drawn into his dark abyss of a lifeless existence, I have to make a conscious effort to not mirror his behavior!

      Mar 12
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  • Blueyedme

    Wow. Hit the nail on the head for me. Described alot of him exactly.... Wow!... Thank you.

    Dec 22, 2012
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  • DeborahManning

    This is spot on, thank you!

    Dec 22, 2012
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  • uma1980

    I cant believe I am reading this.. I am too stunned by this story and how it perfectly applies to my reality.. Thanks a million times for posting this..

    Dec 22, 2012
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  • User313

    If some of the cause of PA behavior relates to childhood and low self esteem, has anyone tried taking active steps to focus on building the PA's present-day self esteem? If so, has improving the self esteem of the PA shown to help diminish the severity or frequency of the 11 listed PA abuse indicators?

    Having over 12 years vested into a relationship with someone whom exhibits the majority of the listed PA behaviors, but also exhibits trust, it seems more fathomable to find a way to continue into a future of starting a family together than it does to entirely walk away. The relationship has many great shared experiences and, in its current state (without those 11 items amplifying much further from where they are now), there are many more happy memories to be made. I desire to continue in this successful, loving, caring, trusting relationship -- with perhaps some additional intimacy and emotional depth if possible.

    I have to admit that reading this article and others' longterm marriage experiences makes me ponder if progressing into marriage and kids would impact the severity or frequency of the PA traits to become worse, become better, or stay the same as the traits are today.

    Although he's always gotten moody and depressed, until seeing how many PA traits he exhibits, I did not really think of him as threatening to me personally, nor my future happiness. When he is moody, I typically just disengage or go get errands done, and the next time we are together, he is fine again.

    BTW - If it is any help in figuring things out, the PA's parents have always been married, and he is the youngest (two older sisters). He has mentioned past resentment toward his childhood experiences with his siblings and his mother making the household decisions. (In contrast, I grew up as a relatively independent only child of divorced parents, one of whom passed when I was in middle school.)

    Any thoughts on the items above from the writer or those with experience?

    Dec 15, 2012
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    • Warriorpoett

      Unfortunately Passive Aggressive people adopt this as their coping strategy for dealing with life and they seldom see any reason to change it. They will shift the blame to you quite efficiently if you try and confront them with the idea that they might be doing something that causes you pain or discomfort. It gets twisted into your fault all of a sudden which is a classical passive aggressive tactic. The problem is that people that live with this are often co-dependent types who enable the passive aggressives and this creates the perfect storm a relationship forged in hell that brings happiness to no one and unfortunately since this is a learned behavior it is often passed to the next generation as well. There is a chance that the co-dependent can change their pattern with some serious help but passive aggressives are seldom able to change their spots so it's a choice can you live with the bullshit and abuse of a passive aggressive or not that's your choice to make and only you can decide.

      Dec 15, 2012
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    • GibbySan

      "Having over 12 years vested into a relationship with someone whom exhibits the majority of the listed PA behaviors..."

      One of the things that partners of PA's do, is they don't want to give up on the relationship because they have so much time invested in it.

      These types of people get worse, not better.

      Even with years of therapy, the odds that you'll see lasting and positive behavioral changes are very slim.

      I married a PA man at 31 and now I'm 50. Had I known then what I know now, I would have run.

      I told my husband nearly six months ago I was no longer going to initiate sex. Guess what? We haven't had sex in nearly six months.

      He swears he never gets mad at me, but withholding sex continuously is classic PA behavior.

      Do you really want to spend the rest of your life jumping through hoops, trying to figure out why he's mad at you when he swears he isn't but behaves otherwise?

      Honestly, signing up for marriage and children with someone you know is PA is simply suicide.

      Dec 15, 2012
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    • GibbySan

      Look up EP member NYARTGAL - she just left her PA spouse and couldn't be happier. She has a lot of really great insights and comments to make on this subject.

      Also feel free to message me privately if you want. I unfortunately have loads of experience as well.

      Dec 15, 2012
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    • Kokwa

      I know that I have really encouraged his dreams, and constantly give him compliments ie his work ethic,looks,intelligence etc.I'm a super positive person and highly motivated, never more have I felt like when I do these things that someone would be offended? When I compliment him, he changes the subject,when we talk about his goals and I get excited for him, he becomes angry as if I was insulting him?!

      Jan 5
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  • oscarbear

    I wish i could talk to you for a few hours ! You have just described my life. where were people like you 25 years ago hehe thank you for guiding me further on my journey x

    Dec 3, 2012
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  • Sdgee

    Come on posters ... I think it is time to take a look at ourselves. The easy way out is to put blame or fault on others including our husbands, boyfriends, and significant others. Positive change starts with ourselves ... I can only speak for myself but I think others can relate. I complain and nag too much ... I'm moody. At times I am selfish and put my priorities in front of my husbands and children. I put unrealistic expectations on my husband. I have a sharp tongue and hurt others feeling. From personal experience I am going to focus on my behavior ... At the end of the day that is the only one I can really change.

    Dec 1, 2012
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    • Warriorpoett

      You will find that you can only do so much. It takes two to tango and when only one person is involved in a relationship it's doomed period. You can try with all your might and fix everything about yourself that can possibly be fixed but if there's no cooperation from the other side you are wasting your time and effort. It's a recurring story here that so many people have tried to fix things but eventually they come to realize that they don't have the power to fix something that they have no control over and that is what the other person in the supposed relationship is going to do. If they do nothing then you have your answer you are wasting your time on a doomed relationship period.

      Dec 1, 2012
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  • gypsyblu

    my refuser p/a acts like he got caught with his hand in the cookie jar if i happen to catch him streaching or yawning....... omg cant look like he belongs to the human race! cant let any one know you have feelings or desires...never ever!

    Nov 12, 2012
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  • tthetree

    Bit close to home...

    Nov 11, 2012
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  • godblessamerica

    After 31 years of being married to an extremely passive aggressive man has taught me they will never change. After many years of marriage counseling, he is no further in understanding his condition than he was during the first year of our marriage. These type of men will continue with their lies, covering up, not wanting to be found out. The procrastination and refusal to complete projects will never get better. No matter how many counselors you go to, books you recommend he reads and never does b/c after all reading a book means he fulfills a request you made. This is unaccpetable in his way of thinking. He just won't do something just b/c you are the one that has asked him to do it.

    My best advise to you young women is "Get out while you can." If I had to do this all over again, I would have left as a young bride. All the signs were there staring me in the face and I was the hopeful romantic, praying and hoping things would get better. They never did. Now, I am a resentful, lonely woman. I would not wish this on my worst enemy. Living a life without sex has been the most difficult of all. He controls me through withholding sex. As a woman, we are conditioned to believe, "What man will turn sex down?" The answer is: A passive aggressive man...Unfortunately, by the time we figure out that our spouse is so flawed emotionally, we have children and convince ourselves to stay for the sake of the children. Ladies, leave even if you have children, b/c I can promise you one of your children will pick up on your husband's passive aggressive behaviors and the cycle repeats itself. As a mother-in-law, you will see your in-law suffer what you went through and it is difficult to watch all over again...

    I am a Christian woman and believed I was adhering to my Christian beliefs by keeping the family together in a sexless marriage. Don't do it. Get out b/c you do not want to see another woman suffer b/c you didn't have the courage or forth for all to get out. Don't put this on someone else to suffer in silence. Expose your children to a healthy marriage so the patterns are not repeated...

    31 years of Silence

    Nov 11, 2012
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    • GibbySan

      This begs to be posted as a stand-alone story. It is excellent.

      Dec 15, 2012
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    • txmusicgal

      wonderful.

      Jan 5
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  • Womanfirst

    OMG....this is my F'n life!

    Oct 28, 2012
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  • QV13

    Thank you for your clarifications of this disorder, it has brought me some relief from feelings of hopelessness. My P/A husband of 23 years can be so nice sometimes, which makes his nasty behaviors all the more difficult to bear. But he rejects me, avoids physical contact with me, lies to me about his drinking with alcohol on his breath, makes promises he doesn't keep, gives me the silent treatment when angry with me about things he refuses to discuss, and seems incapable of carrying on a normal consversation. Any time he is nice to me, I have to remind myself not to get to happy--give it a minute and he'll be back to his usual tricks. Sure enough, he'll pick a fight as if to cancel out the niceness of a minute ago. All of this has virtually robbed me of my native cheerfulness, which has me in a spiral of resentment that is not healthy for me. He can sit around and not acknowledge my presence when I am in the same room with him, and not answer me when I talk to him, for days on end! Well, thanks for this forum; it has helped for me to see that others are in the same boat--for a long time I thought he was uniquely broken, but after researching for a while I now know he is almost a textbook case of the Passive Aggressive Male.

    Oct 21, 2012
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  • SinglenSane

    Only other thing that I might add to the description of the P/A is that they need to feel like and believe that they truly are the "Nice Guy" (or gal). As co-dependents we buy it as well; and the dance begins.

    Sep 30, 2012
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    • gypsyblu

      sane yes for some odd reason they do .... my p/a likes to feel like the victim... just last night.... i grab his hand to dance,. he withdrew his hand yelling,OUCH OUCH.... i thought wtf ! all im doing is wanting to dance with you................. and u act like im trying to karate chop ur hand off....

      Sep 30, 2012
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  • SinglenSane

    I've been researching this dynamic for months as I am recovering from my own co-dependency and a recently ended relationship with a P/A. This encapsulates both sides better than anything else I've read. Thank you for such an insightful article. It covers both aspects and allows either party to choose based on reality, rather than a false projection.

    Sep 30, 2012
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  • snowyflake

    My refuser PA husband walked out the door today. Can't believe it took so long for me to realise what was happening. The years of guilt I felt thinking it was me . . . so relieved its over and that I got out alive (no kids). Thank you so much Warriorpoet and to everyone who shared your experiences. I don't feel so alone anymore -- rather I will never feel as alone as I was in my marriage.

    Sep 29, 2012
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  • theugliestgirlintheworld

    This describes my almost 7 year marriage with my hubby :( He is P/A and I am the Cd/R

    Sep 8, 2012
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  • sparkareno

    Wow, I have the same boyfriend experience as you women do. We met and he swept me off my feet & after a few short months we were in love (or so I thought). I did everything for him (co-dependent rescuer) but I did it gladly because that is how I thought people in love acted. I must say that he did so much for me too--so many thoughtful romantic gestures & sweet things that let me know that he was thinking of me. There were a few crazy outbursts that came out of nowhere & that made no sense but I chalked it up to his work stress (denial by me?). He actually moved in with me & things were still very good but I did notice that he had some issues but I thought no one is perfect. Our sex life was amazing. Then he had to leave town to take care of his wayward teen daughter for what I thought was a few weeks. The first 2 weeks he was very attentive & then the P/A behavior hit the fan..the withdrawal, picking fights, denials, excuses etc. The final straw was that he came up with the lamest excuse possible for not coming back to visit me for my birthday (but he did send the mushiest-I love you forever-you are my best friend card) knowing how much it would hurt. That is when I started the research. P/A people NEVER follow through on their promises and their words do not match their actions. If he acted like the card he wrote, things would be great but he does the opposite. And now I think he may have been cheating on me the whole time that we were together!!! Of course I broke it off with him but we still text or call once in a while...it is still pretty fresh (only a couple weeks) and yet I miss him so much. I miss the good times & there were many- I have never been with a man who I clicked with so easily. I need to examine why I didn't see this all along. Ladies, cheating is very common with these men so make sure that you can trust your BF if you are going to stay with him. Good luck...it is all so sad & disappointing & I cry every day over what could have been.

    Jul 10, 2012
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