The problem is they no longer desire it, so that means it is no longer something worth thinking about. So when you raise the issue, it's "Oh, Christ not THAT again.. Can't you just go in the bathroom or something? Just don't tell ME anything about it."
When the libido disappears, the refuser's intellect takes one hell of a hit at the same time. She no longer has the capacity to consider that there are two people in an actual, well, ... relationship. There are NOT two people, there's only her. And you of course. And if you push it, what you get back is "How do you think that makes ME feel?" So you end up feeling guilty because by expressing your needs you're making her feel bad about not doing that messy filthy stuff and now she feels just awful and how could you DO this to her?!! You are horrible!" It's like half her brain goes into mothballs; Intellect Which Shall Never Be Used Again.
We admitted we were powerless over our refusers - that our lives had become unmanageable because we let their issues and dysfunctions ruin them.
We came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity. This power is Sex.
We made a decision to turn our libido over to the care of our lawyers as we understood our lawyers.
We made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves and found that it isn't our fault after all.
We admitted to God, to ourselves and to another human being the exact nature of our living hell. This other human being is another person in a sexless marriage we are having an affair with.
We were entirely ready to have God remove the well-meaning but misguided character wrinkle of thinking we should put up with this.
We humbly asked God to remove our refuser from our lives.
We made a list of all the times we had been refused, and we gave this list to our refuser, and we became more than willing to let him/her make amends for them all, and they did not, so to hell with them.
We made direct amends for all the times we refused someone sex. This was the easiest step of all.
We continued to keep a personal inventory of phone numbers, email addresses, photos, and dating site links, and when needed, promptly used them.
We sought through prayer and meditation to improve our sexual stamina and orgasmicisity, praying only for knowledge of how to blow the mind of our new partner and the power to carry that out.
Having had a spiritual awakening as the result of these steps, we tried to carry this message to other victims of refusers, and to practice these principles in all our, um, affairs.
OMG! That is one of the most creative use of the 12 steps I have ever read... and it speaks the truth... thanks! I may use this with clients if you don't mind... permission? joyinthejourney, clg
We should gather an equal number of men to an equal number of women to meet and create local chapters. For example: Lets just say five men who are living in a sexless marriage have a meeting with five women (note: there is an EP Group called I am a woman in a sexless marriage) in the same sad hell. Each member brings a profile and a photo of the spouse who is very happy with such a ridiculous relationship. Then we all try to match up our sexless spouses, have them meet, get married to a NOW PERFECT MARRIAGE FOR THEM and divorce us normal people so we can all be free from this living hell. NOW just like that old V05 shampoo commercial if we tell two friends and they tell two friends and so on we can all be free from this BS existence.
Hahaha! Thank you. My next order of business is to know thy enemy. I just noticed there is a I Am Celebate EP group. Wow I will read what they have to say and I suggest everyone to find their spouses there. My husband may be there now! I KNOW he is not sleeping with me!
Thank you... I have spent years just thinking since there is nothing else to do. Now I DO what I am thinking and I feel 5,000 times better. NOW ANY Celebate loving WIVES out there? I HAVE this nice, good looking 6' 4" 220 blond hair blue eye man looking for a true buddy to love with. You will need to know how to cook and be the secretary to everything without any office playing. Don't remember what he has in his pants but you won't care so it is all good. Contact me for I am his pimp. Highest bidder wins! LOL
want another one? I'll send my beefy hunk of sexless ice your way. He's gorgeous, fit, well endowed, potent, but would only delivers duty sex 1x per month if that and he's hard as a rock lively as an undertaker's charge, lays more still and lifeless than any large roadkill. Ah, but he's doing his duty.
I said that when I first joined it would be great. Yeah the hormones could get out of check but what the hell lol. And if the meeting has anything to do with sex we know the spouses won't be interested lol
A few of us met in our city here, and I wandered the restaurant 3 times before one of them got up to see if I was the missing person! LOL. You DEF need a sign, like "ILIASM CONVENTION BLUE ROOM" :)
I'm afraid if we sexless ones by force, not by choice, physically got together in local mtgs. it would be anarchy! I AM STARVING...literally, don't think I could handle a whole group with this particular issue...