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I Live In a Sexless Marriage

Bowen Theory, The Differentiation Of Self And David Schnarch

By: enna30
Written on July 30th, 2012
By: enna30
Age: 56-60 , Female
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    MinW

    I would enjoy going to a talk from this author, it seems so many people would benefit ?

    Sep 16, 2012
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      enna30

      David Schnarch's book "Passionate Marriage" is well worth reading.

      Sep 17, 2012
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      MinW

      Pre-marriage went to a few talks on marriage but this would be a good talk to attend if this author gives talk too !

      You Are Awesome ! Thank You So Much !

      Sep 17, 2012
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    Angelina753

    Sitting here with a lump in my throat and tears in my eyes. Yes I am poorly deferentiated and aware.. My responses to life are not as I would like.. The auto responses are well ingrained habits which take an incredible amount of energy to break.. All I can say is I am aware and working on this.

    Sep 4, 2012
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      enna30

      Working on yourself is the BEST thing you can do! It takes time, it is painful and nothing changes over-night. But gradually you ill see howe "you" are changing to be the person you truly are inside. Good quality counselling is invaluable in this process, if you can possibly consider it. {{{hugs}}}

      Sep 17, 2012
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    proudveteran

    Hello...who are you? I have been in Bowen based therapy for a number of years so I understand some of what you are saying. DOS is tough work and then to throw sexual anxiety in the mix is heady stuff. Look forward to seeing what you come up with in the future. Thanks.

    Aug 25, 2012
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    Wolfy1

    Very timely post enna - thanks....



    I think I am working on getting enough differentiation so that I no longer fall victim to the tools she uses to control, and I can find my own happiness within myself.



    This seems to have more of an effect on her then anything I could discuss with her directly related to the lack of intimacy in the marriage. And it seems to frighten her sense of status quo...though she may try to direct this in a way that stunts my growth...and affirms her control..... I am learning from both writing and reading here that I can find ways to re-direct the conversation. In the process the "control knob" becomes less useful. If I can keep control of my responses...I can maintain some control over my reaction...and thus force her to become the raving lunatic, and then point out this fact to disarm the argument.



    Result....she tries less to control. As she notes there is less control in upping the volume. In my case it simply means there may be more peace while we work our way to Wolfy have a finger on the exit plan trigger...and pulling that trigger...."the talk"....will be a more confident Wolfy if I can can continue and master my re-directs and disconnecting the volume control. At that point her choice, will force my choice.....and she will know it..... = silence.



    Like....- yes

    Jul 31, 2012
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    Chai07

    Enna, thanks for this post. The "Differentiation is" section is getting posted on my bulletin board.

    Jul 31, 2012
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    Petrushka

    Once again, a post well worth reading, thanks :-) Rated up!



    Schnarch's bit about the two choice dilemma took a bit of parsing, I had to read over it a couple of extra times to see what he's driving at.

    I guess part of the reason why I didn't get it is that I don't make decisions based on anxiety, I make them based on goals and possibly pain and damage. Bugger anxiety. But clearly, not everybody reacts like that, and observation says it is so.



    I'm rather uncertain on the point that "the refused fail to act because they don't want to choose". In my view they do choose, they choose to stay and hope and try to make things work -- that IS a choice. It's not necessarily the right choice, but it's one of two basic options if we throw disengagement into the same basket as leaving. As well, the way they go about the former choice is not always the right one: sometimes assertion works better than submission, but then again, some times it's a lost cause and hanging about is very much the wrong choice.

    Having said that, I do admit to some people, usually with a weak sense of self, being so anxiety driven that they never really get to making any choice at all, they stay and dither and suffer. I really wonder what proportion we'd be looking at there!

    Jul 31, 2012
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      enna30

      P, you are so right when you say that "not choosing" is a choice. But I think it takes some time and thought before people realise that this is something THEY are doing. Instead, I believe many peeople (including me in the past) were waiting for our partners to "choose" to be sexual partners, rather than recognising that their INaction is actualy a choice they are making - consciously or otherwise.

      Jul 31, 2012
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    DangerCat

    to bookmark and think about...

    Jul 30, 2012
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    smilin61

    yep.yep.yep.

    Thank you Enna for this dose of much needed 'medicine'. I

    I'm saving this one to re-read on those nights I go to bed feeling sorry for myself!

    ((((HUGS!!!))))

    Jul 30, 2012
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    anastasiagrey

    Interesting read, gives me a few things to ponder...

    Jul 30, 2012
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