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I Live In a Sexless Marriage

I Live In A Sexless Marriage Because My Husband Is An Alcoholic And I Want A Divorce.

By: cindymariee
Written on November 3rd, 2012
Age: 46-50 , Female
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  • noplan1958

    I am so sorry, I feel for you. My marriage is sexless because Cancer has stolen her ability to enjoy sex, his is self-inflicted and selfish, I hope you can escape, there is no help for someone that drinks that much.

    4 days ago
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  • SimplyK

    Wow, our marriage problems are similar for different reasons.

    I have been married for 25 yrs now and sexless for 10.

    I choose to stay because of the kids and finances. My kids are 13 & 16. As soon as they are both off to college I am leaving....5 more yrs though

    I hope everything has worked out for you.

    Please add me to your circle of friend

    Thank you for sharing,

    K

    Apr 6
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    • SimplyK

      P.S. post your story in all 3 groups... If it fits , post.... Everybody does this. It gives your story more exposure to members with similar problems.

      Thanks again for sharing

      Apr 6
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  • Fazer

    What a cruel situation to have to live in - and for such a long time as well. It seems to me you will probably have to force the issue of separation and divorce through your solicitor. It sounds as though your husband will remain in denial until you do that. It's easier for him to stay, drink, and hope you will put up up with it indefinitely. You may find you have automatic entitlement to stay in the house you have for a while as you still have a minor dependant with you. If that's the case it may buy you more time before you have to worry about the true financial implications of the split. I hope you manage to find a way forward soon.

    Dec 8, 2012
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  • PoetryMaid

    Have you been to Al Anon ?

    Nov 30, 2012
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  • hylierandom

    Just file the papers, then start looking for a place you can afford on your own...The guy's basically busy anesthetizing himself, getting him to actually DO anything is just not gonna happen.

    Nov 22, 2012
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  • littleone7733

    I'm so sorry. You say he keeps breaking his promises. I hate saying this, but you also said that you have told him you want a divorce like 20 times. You have never held him to any of his promises. Deep down he knows nothing will come from him not keeping them. I'm not saying that he would keep them if you put your foot down, but he doesn't have to worry about that as you always let him off the hook.

    You do not deserve any of this but please do not enable him.

    Good luck

    Nov 22, 2012
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  • Nodifferent

    The advise here on Al Anon is right on, those of us with spouse who drink too much or are alcoholics want to sweep it under the couch, that does not work. Sex and a alcoholic is fraught with sorrow. Not one to recommend books much but the book "Bounderies" may help.

    Nov 10, 2012
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  • freezerboy

    WOW I wish there were works that I could say to help. But I am not sure what you should do. I want you to be happy and to live again. I will be here if you want to talk more

    Nov 10, 2012
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  • iRant

    That sucks Cindy. The best advice I can offer is to never make statements you don't intend to keep. Men are like children in that you have to be consistent with us. For example, the first time you threatened to leave you had him begging and promising almost anything if you would stay. I bet he hardly blinks an eye when you say it now.

    I had some experience with alcoholism with my wife, although I think in her case it was related to her depression. Anyway, after some behavior that even she recognized as being dangerous to our children she hasn't touched alcohol in a couple of years. If she had I would have kicked her out of the house and started divorce proceedings. She knew that I wasn't bluffing and, like I said, has done really well since.

    Good luck!

    Nov 9, 2012
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  • weltie

    There are three Cs in Al-Anon - didn't cause it, cannot cure it and cannot control it!

    Nov 5, 2012
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  • weltie

    Cindymariee AA is for alcoholics, Al-Anon is for those of us who try to live with them. May I suggest you need to know more about what the alcoholic has done to you and how you are going to cope with it whether you remain with the drinker or not. Yours in fellowship. L

    Nov 5, 2012
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  • weltie

    Dear Cindymarie: Please accept my apology if I am preaching to the converted, however, if you have not worked an Al-Anon 12-Step program may I urge you to get yourself along to the nearest group to your home before you can your marriage.
    The Al-Anon Family Groups are a fellowship of relatives and friends of alcholics who share their experience, strength and hope in order to solve their common problems. We believe alcholism is a family illness and that changed attitudes can aid recovery. Al-Anon has but one purpose: to help families of alcholics. There's a lot more to this than thed space permits. If you really want to help yourself get along to Al-Anon and write me back sometime.

    Nov 5, 2012
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    • cindymariee

      I am well aware of AA. In one of my other posts I mentioned trying for years to get him to go. He has to admit he has a problem first. Then want to be helped.

      Nov 5, 2012
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    • hylierandom

      He's not going to quit. He's proved it.
      What are you going to do?

      Nov 22, 2012
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  • HisRoommate

    Wow. I can sooo identify! Too many times my husband has ruined family gatherings or not been able to help with our children's functions. I kicked him out a couple of times, but quickly realized I couldn't survive without his income. I'm waiting for our kids to be self-sufficient. I've gone this long, a few more years will pass and ill hopefully be able to move on with my life ... Hang in there!

    Nov 4, 2012
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    • cindymariee

      Most family functions, birthdays etc are during the day and since he is functioning I have never had him ruin one. Most family live a few hours away so probably got lucky there. They tend to come early and leave early. Might be a problem if they came in the evening and stayed late though. The biggest problem during the day is you can't count on him to drive or pick up the kids because you know he has been drinking everyone else might not, but you do.

      Nov 4, 2012
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    • HisRoommate

      I finally bought a breathalyzer because he denied it so much. He acts like I'm awful for "accusing" him, but time and time again I'm proven right. One time he was supposed to drive our daughter to a ball game. I knew he was drunk, but he kept denying it, and got very angry at me. He blew a 2.4. My daughter almost missed her game. She had her permit, so she drove with him in the passenger seat. He passed out, ad she got lost. I told him he let her down. To this day he will not admit any wrongdoing.

      Nov 4, 2012
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    • cindymariee

      If your daughter had gotten caught with him drunk and the only person over 18 in the car where I live she would not have gotten her license. The penalty is severe here. Not sure about anywhere else. I would not let my husband go out with my son when he was learning except during the week. My husband won't drink and drive. Never has. I guess I can be thankful for that. When my husband tries to deny I just show him the recycles. He has tried to hide them elsewhere but I know him too well and can usually find them. lol I don't even bother anymore just work around it.

      Nov 4, 2012
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    • HisRoommate

      My H is pretty good at hiding the empties. Many times he'll poor it into water bottles before he gets to the house. I'm kind of with you now, I just work around it and the kids and I go on with our lives. I do make him blow in the breathalyzer if I need to keep him from driving.

      Nov 5, 2012
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  • PrincessInHighTower

    Im so sad to see everyone eles posts. I kinda thought I was the only one. Anyway I cannot belive that Ive not had sex in a year! Just because i can't do it with him, when he's drunk or hung over. Im so desprate that i feel as though ive opened myself up emotionally to men, with out my usual guard up.
    I was a ways accused of being a cheat, now after 20 years i belive that i have commited adultry in heart, with another man. Problably the wrong type, recovered addict, lol.
    My sad sob story.

    Nov 4, 2012
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  • suenit

    my story to a T...except my husband starts at 5:30 with a highball in a tervis tumbler glass..whiskey and gingerale..i would estimate he fills 1/4 of the glass w/whiskey..he also takes a few nips out of the whiskey bottle as he's making his drink..he refreshes his glass 3-4 times during the next two hours and also takes a nother nip or two but considers this as "one" drink lol i called it "ron's math"...around 8pm he uncorks the red wine and will drink no less than 1/2 the bottle and often 3/4 to all of it..he does this monday-sunday like clock work. He has an excellent job (sales) & works mainly from home but also travels for work all over to great places, he never misses a beat..he could be Employee of the Year hands down..he is VP of his company..it is beyond me how he does this so well considering the alcohol he consumes but he does!! His marriage..rock bottom..no sex, seperate bedrooms, no accountability, white lies about everything,etc,etc,etc..i don't get these guys but I'll tell you what...it screws with your mind..our minds that is. I look in the mirror and think to myself you're a pretty lady, awesome wife & mother & daughter...what the hell were you thinking????

    Nov 4, 2012
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    • cindymariee

      Mine drinks beer. He also has a problem with math though. His one or two is 4-5
      He will drink all day and say he has only had 2. Cans in the recycle bin say otherwise.

      Nov 4, 2012
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  • PrincessInHighTower

    Oh yea, also for got to menmtion i read somewhere that alcohol abusers DO LOOSE THEIR SEX DRIVE,,,, i thought i was at fault, for not being pretty enough,,,, or??? But no,,, it that alcohol,,,, i do belive, :(

    Nov 4, 2012
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    • cindymariee

      Don't know about that. Mine didn't.

      Nov 4, 2012
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  • PrincessInHighTower

    Im almost in tears! Your story soiunds just like mine!!!!! Exept i don't have children, but do have animals,,,,, And my man has now been sober two weeks,,,,, got sick,,, got on cough surup,,,,, and now its just a matter of time,,,, i too want a divorce!!!! Im sick of being stressed out about his drinking and driving,,,, he works i don't,,,, he also only drink on his days off,,,,, Im so scard i don't know what to do,,,, but if i had money,,, me and the animals would be GONE!!!! I inherited my home, he mad that i don't put his name on it,,,,,???? Im so deprived!!!! I chatted with this guy,,, and like whao!!! I feel like a little girl!!!! This has helped me to realize how deprived i am,,,, Also that i just might be a 'love addict' i don't know.... I come from abusive background home....
    i havn't had the courage to talk to an attorney,,, yet,,, but like, you i know it is the best course of action!!!
    After doing some research on religions i was quite surprised that Muslim and Jewish marriages can get divorced because of a lack of sex!!!!! Interesting egh?

    Nov 4, 2012
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    • cindymariee

      Do not ever under any circumstances put anyone's name on the house. I have a friend that her mom left her a house and she had been happily married 10 years when she inherited. They had been renting and moved in to it and 2 years later her husband divorced her when he met someone else and fought for 1/2 the value of the house and won. She had to sell it to pay his portion. (I guess she was happily married anyway)

      Nov 4, 2012
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  • WPeace

    This sounds soo familiar. I am in a very similar situation. We are enablers, we are caught up in a cycle. Change is very difficult for all of us. We analyze everything because of fear. We have to build ourselves up and step out in faith and make a change. Best of luck to you!

    Nov 4, 2012
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    • cindymariee

      I agree. I think a lot of my problem is low self esteem.

      Nov 4, 2012
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  • FaithfullyBlue

    A lot of stories here have some grey area. This one looks pretty black and white.

    Nov 3, 2012
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  • kim1944

    Take off the rose colored glasses, you can't do this amicably. Has it occurred to you that you get along well because you've tolerated and enabled him? By begging him to do it amicably you have shown much weakness and that WILL be exploited. See a lawyer now and follow through for once. I wanted an amicable divorce as well but that just have my ex room to jerk things around. Stay strong sister.

    Nov 3, 2012
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  • bazzar

    Essentially, this group deals in dysfunctional marriages.

    Sex, or lack thereof, is the main symptom dealt with here, but the answers to dysfunctional marriages are all the same whether the "why" is sex, grog, drugs, mental issues, personality dis-orders (insert your own choice here).

    Read mvcmvc's comment. Act on it.

    Tread your own path.

    Nov 3, 2012
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    • bazzar

      Your financial position will improve almost immediately you divorce I'd imagine. The grog bill will plummet like a shot duck straight away.

      Nov 3, 2012
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    • cindymariee

      lol yes, I imagine once I get past the housing issues and am on my own my finances will improve. For that as well as other reasons.

      Nov 3, 2012
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  • mvcmvc

    You need legal counsel.

    Take that critical first step then the rest will fall into place.

    Nov 3, 2012
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    • cindymariee

      Yes, it is the first step that is the hardest to do though.

      Nov 3, 2012
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  • 88ElmiraSt

    Is there anythimg in this world more pathetic than an addict? Or more dangerous?

    Nov 3, 2012
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    • cindymariee

      Pathetic yes. Dangerous not so much. He is a happy go lucky drunk. Just lives in his own little world where all is well as long as he has his beer. He has built up such a tolerance he can drink all day and still carry on a normal conversation and cook dinner. lol

      Nov 3, 2012
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    • 88ElmiraSt

      Look how much damage he has caused you. He has amputated 20 years of your life. That's danger personified. Addicts are vampires and are so good at sucking your soul out they can even make you feel guilty while they are murdering you.

      Nov 4, 2012
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    • MissLee

      *like*

      Nov 4, 2012
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  • emeraldgreeneyes

    You just wrote my story-- Thank you--From the alcoholic husband to the finances and kids---everything. Stay strong

    Nov 3, 2012
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    • cindymariee

      Hopefully strong enough, and strong ~ long enough to contact the lawyer next week.

      Nov 3, 2012
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  • ray3218

    Well, this is all dependent upon the laws in the jurisdiction in which you live, but where I live, what starts the clock is the official notice (usually a letter) declaring intent to separate, which leads into the meeting with the advisors. In my case, it was mediation instead of court, but it defined the demarcation point where finances were separated. It's presumable that you won't lose everything that you've accumulated; probably just half, if that's any consolation. I lost a lot more before the separation notice because I didn't keep an eye on the bank statements. Each of us contributed around 50% to the the joint account but she spent at least 80%. First step is to separate the finances, move joint accounts into separate accounts, and cancel any joint credit cards or credit facilities.

    Good luck and stay strong.

    See that crazy sun.

    Nov 3, 2012
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    • cindymariee

      I have always taken care of the finances. (what little we have) he has never had a clue so that part is not much of a concern. I worry more about how the mortgage here would be paid if I move out. Once I file I would make sure to keep any finances separate. I wish I had been smart enough years ago to have separate and joint accounts. He has never had any ambition and actually makes less now then he did 5 years ago. I have always worked 2 jobs or worked overtime to pick up the slack or pay for things like both kids braces.

      Nov 3, 2012
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    • ray3218

      It's amazing how many situations I've seen over my career where the strongest men that I've ever met are women. Not being gender centric or anything, but a compliment. Question though, if you are moving out and the house is going to be an issue, why would you worry about the mortgage being paid? Could you negotiate an agreement where you get your equity paid out and leave him with the burden? I presume not, but just food for thought.

      See that crazy sun.

      Nov 3, 2012
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    • cindymariee

      I worry because he can't afford the mortgage by himself. Neither can I. If I move out and am paying for housing elsewhere I can't help with the mortgage here at the same time and if the bank forecloses we will have lost 20 years worth of equity and it would ruin my credit report. I would never again buy something I can't afford on my salary alone under any circumstances

      Nov 3, 2012
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    • GibbySan

      I really don't get your logic with the house. If you've been in it for 20 years, surely you have some equity. When you sell the house, you split the equity. What he chooses to do with his half is his problem.

      What am I missing here?

      Nov 3, 2012
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    • cindymariee

      Who pays the mortgage until it gets sold? I really don't care what he does with his 1/2. If I move out I can not pay 2 mortgages. What if it takes 6 months to a year to sell? The bank would foreclose. We would lose the equity if that happens as well as destroy our credit reports. I worry about the bank foreclosing not what he would do.

      Nov 3, 2012
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    • GibbySan

      These are questions you need to ask a lawyer. It was really hard for me to walk into an attorney's office, but once I had some good, solid information I felt a lot better. Good luck and please keep us updated.

      Nov 3, 2012
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    • GibbySan

      "I have told him that if I have to I will divorce him while still living here until the house sells."

      Not the most comfortable situation, but would certainly preserve your equity and your credit.

      Nov 3, 2012
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    • cindymariee

      Thanks. I will.

      Nov 3, 2012
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    • cindymariee

      I will talk to a lawyer, but I have a feeling this is going to be my only option

      Nov 3, 2012
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  • zsuzsilowinger

    "My son asked me a couple of months ago why I stay. He told me if I was waiting for them to be old enough to move out, not to. He said don't you think we would rather see you happy?"

    Out of the mouths of babes. Anyone staying for the kids would do well to listen here.

    As for the finances etc., you can only know for certain once you have seen a lawyer and know your rights. What is holding you back from seeing a lawyer? It does not mean you have to act - it just makes you INFORMED.

    GO SEE THAT LAWYER. First visit is often free!

    Nov 3, 2012
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    • cindymariee

      There were so many more things said during this conversation. Makes my cry to think about. I never gave my kids enough credit, never realized how much they actually knew. They are much more observant then we think.

      Nov 3, 2012
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  • GibbySan

    A few comments here:

    You aren't a refuser when you don't want to have sex with a drunk.

    Your son is a smart kid! Listen to him.

    "I told him last month that I want a divorce for probably the 20th time and that I wanted to put the house on the market and go our separate ways. He refuses to hear what I am saying."

    You are TOTALLY enabling his behavior. You never follow through on anything you say you are going to do. He hasn't had to suffer any negative consequences from his behavior.

    You go on and on and on twisting yourself up in knots, when the truth is you haven't even TALKED to a lawyer.

    The lawyer I saw told me the court would order my husband out of the house and that our credit would be separate from that day on.

    "I have threatened to get a lawyer and force him to sell the house. I have told him that if I have to I will divorce him while still living here until the house sells."

    Stop threatening him and just do it. You deserve to have a real life, and your kids are on your side. I'm sure they are sick of him, too.

    Nov 3, 2012
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    • MissLee

      I second what GibbySan said.

      Nov 3, 2012
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    • cindymariee

      Yes, I am aware of that I am enabling him. It doesn't make it easier. I have been trying all along to do it amicably. I did not want to hurt him or the kids. I know the kids will be fine now so I was hoping to work things out with him and cause as little pain as possible. I know now I have to hurt him to be happy. He is a good guy aside from the drinking, he would do anything for anybody. I also know that if he stopped drinking today I would still want the divorce. It doesn't mean I want to hurt him. I plan to call a lawyer this week to see what my options are.

      Nov 3, 2012
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    • ray3218

      Self-preservation means needing to take the risk of hurting others to help yourself. Don't guilt yourself into staying in this.

      See that crazy sun.

      Nov 3, 2012
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    • cindymariee

      No, I know I have been doing that for years. I have gone through the whole gamut of emotions. From worried about his health to anger to sad to bitter to resentful to indifference to feeling guilty. I have done them all. Now I am just resigned I think.

      Nov 3, 2012
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    • MissLee

      I have gone through that cycle as well. It's exhausting in every way.

      Nov 3, 2012
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    • redwaterlady

      he would do anything for anybody? really?

      Nov 3, 2012
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    • cindymariee

      It certainly is. Resigned is the easiest I think. Now for courage.

      Nov 3, 2012
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    • ray3218

      Should have cut the cord at indifference. Now the guilt game begins. I keep getting bashed for citing a lyric in an old song by a Canuck band called "Rush":

      "Not looking back but want to look around me now"

      Look around then look forward.

      See that crazy sun.

      Nov 3, 2012
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    • cindymariee

      I think I am still somewhat indifferent as well as resigned. I know there is no going back. I lost any feelings I had for him other then friendship years ago. It is the courage I am having a hard time with. I honestly don't know what I am afraid of. I feel like I have carried the burden in this marriage anyway with the kids as well as the finances so I don't know what I am afraid of. I almost moved out 3 years ago and moved in with my dad he lived 10 minutes away and the kids were always with him anyway. He lived alone in a 4 bedroom tri-level. I didn't because I didn't want to be 47 and living with my dad even if it was temporary. He died 2 years ago. I look at it now and think it would have been better to be 47 and living there then 49 and stuck. I will find the courage somehow.

      Nov 3, 2012
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    • ray3218

      Good for you. Don't look back. I'm leaving the house that I lived in for 26 years next Saturday and plan to have a good man cry, but also looking forward to my new life.

      See that crazy sun.

      Nov 3, 2012
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    • cindymariee

      Good Luck to you. I wish I was that far along. I am sure someday I will look back and wonder what the hell took me so long.

      Nov 3, 2012
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    • ray3218

      Keep looking forward.

      See that crazy sun.

      Nov 3, 2012
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  • TheFullMoon

    "I told him last month that I want a divorce for probably the 20th time... I have threatened to get a lawyer..'' Do you think he paid any attention to you words? You need to see a lawyer and make exact plan... He will never change, all words are useless...
    Yes, I stay because of finances and my husband's illness... But he is not an alcoholic...

    Nov 3, 2012
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    • cindymariee

      No, don't think he has heard a word I have said in at least 15 years. Goes about daily life like everything is fine. A state of denial.

      Nov 3, 2012
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