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I Live In a Sexless Marriage

Perhaps An Insight Into the Guy's Problem...

By: TheTreeIsMe
Written on February 13th, 2007
Age: 36-40 , Male
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  • DancingFire

    I also think with the thought of partnership idea that its men, when married too young, are still dependent on the concept of their mothers doing things for them... and while a wife will do things for their husbands, the men have this "take care of me" attitude which quite frankly is a bedroom killer. I want a lover, not an overgrown child.

    Feb 6
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    • ray3218

      There are exceptions to the rule. If I hadn't done the cooking, cleaning, laundry and 90% of the childrearing, it never would never have gotten done. There are women that are more interested in the concept of "marriage" than the reality. I've shared my rejection woes with a number of female friends and they just either blankly stared and didn't know what to say or else thought I was making it all up.

      Feb 17
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    • DancingFire

      No it's true, you are right. That happens too.

      Feb 17
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    • montanatomkat

      i think yer correctabout young men,, they havent done things for themselves,, and had the time of independance,, thus dont appreciate it when married and have a partner to share the chores and drudrgery ,,

      Mar 14
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    • ray3218

      Maybe, but I think it goes to strength of character. **** who does if; if you're in a true partnership, all needs to be done.

      Mar 14
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  • swmp321

    Well said.

    Jan 23
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  • amimaxxahere

    good
    be my friend :)

    Jan 8
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  • Nupi

    Thank you for this insight. Not many men will go into such depth and honesty to try to express there feelings on the subject to help others so thank you.

    Dec 30, 2012
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  • caronjoy

    Is it not about give and take and finding the balance that works? Both parties have to be committed to finding that 'common ground' that is mutually beneficial. I believe that we are meant to be married for a lifetime simply because it takes quite a lot of time for a relationship to mature. However, it is my belief that one can deduce at any stage (after appropriate intervention) when their spouse's character is enduringly destructive and their spouse is not willing to change or, worse still, is unable to change. Marriages may thus end because hope for a mutually beneficial and tolerable future together is lost.

    Dec 18, 2012
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  • Pedroelbellaco

    Very well said.
    I still want a blow job from my wifes niece

    Dec 6, 2012
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  • happinesswinsxx

    Much of what you've said makes sense ...But any woman could have made alot of the same complaints.....I read an excellent book recently called "The men we never knew ". It explains many of the reasons men struggle with the life they are living. Many men feel they were born into certain roles that they never sighed up for( expected to work hard , protect and provide etc. ). I am a long time married woman with 2 sons. It made me cry , when a thought about how men feel about all this pressure...
    However,women feel the same pressure to carryout a role that we were born into too.No one asked us either!
    You said most men are "babies for life "! This is the real problem.....Us wives never signed up to be your mother and we don't like it . If a man wants to feel in control of his marriage, he needs to make his wife feel safe enough to let him "wear the pants."If she doubts that you are mature enough, she won't let go of the control she has.If you want something done properly, do it yourself mind set. It would be heaven to be able to say to your spouse, "go for it ....i trust that you will do it all well and i resign from all the **** that i have had to manage all these years. I'm going for a swim . Bye. " When we no longer have to juggle life for everyone under the roof , we might also have more time to think about sex..and the energy to thoroughly enjoy it !!
    Re. baggage ...everyone has some ..we would all be empty shells if we hadn't experienced life. We would also lack the wisdom we have gained along the way. Good luck to you.

    Nov 24, 2012
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    • RRRW

      HWSX. Well said. Men you should pay attention to this. Your wife wants to be your girl friend sometimes and she wants to feel cared for and not alone in all of life's task and responsibilities. Sometimes it goes the other way the man does it all, but I would say the majority leans more toward the wife, IMO. Some share life's duties well, do you? Just something to think about.

      One more thing,sometimes men say woman or my wife is controlling, well, if you actually took some of the responsibilities and made some decisions then the wife could step back, breath, relax and let you take it for a while and would be glad too believe me. Then, we might not seem so controlling. Another, just for thought, and is my opinion based on some experiences I've had.

      Feb 12
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    • happinesswinsxx

      Thanks RRRW.
      I did not intend to belittle men, or imply that only women do this.
      It can go both ways. However, where the husband is the main breadwinner , and the wife has stepped back from her working life to raise the kids and run the household , she can end up doing more than she should .
      She can end up Micro Managing everyone, including her man. Some may do this because they like to control, others may do it because they feel that it's necessary. None of us get be babies after we marry.

      Feb 13
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    • DancingFire

      Thank you happiness... so very true.

      Feb 13
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  • roundofoz

    I like what I read and think it is true and good to talk about. But rightfully commented..where is the female version? I would like to give my version. This is what i have seen in many of my friends relationships.

    Except for everything that is already written... just some food for thought for the other side. I believe that if a woman in the relationship is not treated with respect towards other woman by her partner....e.g. her partner looks too much or too often at other woman and or tries to get a smile out of them (which might make him feel like he is still wanted or in the market) or he even gleeres at other woman when his partner is around, or his head turns to girls whilst driving the car, or finding **** hanging around the house, or just that little too much interest in another woman when his partner is around? Maybe it is a combination of all of the above, what kind of message is that sending to his woman and the subject woman? How does this make her feel? Or how would she feel towards the other woman?

    Nov 23, 2012
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  • ScooterLuv

    Sounds like a bunch of bullsh*t to me.

    Nov 17, 2012
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    • Cheaters12

      Is it because this makes you realize that you are partially responsible for being on this forum as you controlled and changed your H so much that he lost himself and lost interest in sex with you. For you it's easier to just put all the blame on you H by not trying to understand the issues.

      Feb 7
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  • amelia714

    Thank you for the insight. It is helpful to hear from the other side.

    Nov 10, 2012
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  • lake1107

    Thank you. I feel sooo selfish right now.

    Nov 4, 2012
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  • wizhard1

    I am actually very shocked at many that disagree with this. I mean surely this is not the case for everyone. However, part of being a spouse is growing together. Many of the red flags were there from the beginning. Most get caught up in the fairy tale or the selfish reasons to marry. Whether you are a man or a woman, it is your responsibility to at least try to understand your spouse. If not, what's the point? Get a divorce. I don't see anything with a husband wanting to be his wife's hero. I think people are getting hung on the cliche of it. However, the hero is the protector. The one you come to and feel safe with. If your husband doesn't feel needed, what the hell is he there for. Granted, he could be the reason that you no longer feel safe. We also have to be responsible for our own growth. However, is marriage about sharing everything. Building one another up. If you sit in a corner scorned because you no longer respect your spouse, what are you going to do about? Are you going to step up and help them regain their sense of self. Or sit and blame them for being lost, hence losing your respect. Maybe your spouse has lost a piece of themselves. Is it now because you are so indifferent that it is just their problem. My question is, why stay? If you don't at least want to try to help another that you claim to love. When you talk about the hero complex, it is more than just feeling like the king of the castle. It is just as equal to a woman wanting to feel safe, or be his queen. Or be the only woman that he adores. It makes you feel special! Sometime in relationships we give gifts that others are unable to receive. In that you expect something back. However, the gift you gave is sitting in a closet. The receiver doesn't even now you gave it. Because they are not in that place. You feel resentment because you think they should get it. Help him get! If it can't be fixed stopped wasting both parties time. Because when you sit like a bump on a log you too are just as guilty!

    Oct 21, 2012
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  • 88ElmiraSt

    There is some truth to this analysis, but the suggested solution amounts to letting him avoid growing up. He won't engage and be a husband unless you puff up his ego? That would be rewarding him for failure. You are right that men like to feel like heroes. But they have to earn it. If he is an intimacy averse bum and you make him feel like a knight in shining armor, he has all the motivation to remain an imtimacy averse bum. The more the refused tries, the worse the SM gets. Because now the refuser gets scented candles and back rubs and still doesn't have to do the chore of sex. If he holds out longer maybe he'll get out of housework.

    Sep 11, 2012
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  • Woofb4

    Very well said, we are not that complicated.

    Sep 8, 2012
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  • theremustbeawayout

    I am not my husband's therapist. I am not his mother. And I sure as hell am not a damsel in distress any more. The moment I ceased being a hysterical pile of fear and insecurities who could not even be bothered to eat, that was the moment he ceased his physical attentions. Being a partner is incompatible with establishing a "you are my hero" power imbalance.

    Sep 7, 2012
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  • lifelongstudent

    Awesome analysis and insight, TheTreeIsMe. Thank you for giving me a few answers to questions I've had about some previous relationships and cluing me in on some issues that are happening in my current one.

    Sep 5, 2012
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  • rosedl

    your advice is predicated on his inability to be intimate based on a lack of sense of self. And, you recommend the refused develop a plan to elevate it. Sorry, but that is his work. And, no one can do it but him. And, besides the point that women in this situation pretzel themselves into knots trying to change it, it NEVER works anyhow. Refused women don't need some lecture to help empowere men who you claim are just big babies. In my experience, refusal was just another extension of control, complete self-centeredness, and emotional abuse. Your advice is harmful as it puts the onus on the refused rather then the refuser. Believe me, women in this situation get every part of themselves blamed by the refuser for their lack of both emotional and physical intimacy. I have two kids, I don't need another to raise!

    Aug 19, 2012
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    • lc14503

      Hmm, I kind of liked this guy's post AND your response to it. I found the post insightful, but perhaps the remedy was lacking, and that's what you point out when you say "that is his work." You are right. However, as a partner who is more concerned with solving the problem than with placing the blame, how do I get him to do "his work"? It's like an impossible boot-strapping situation: If I ask him to work on his problems so he can plummet. Do you have a solution for the problem you've identified? I would be grateful if you did. I will say though, I am not too sure that my experience is quite like yours-- that is, I don't know at this point that the sex withholding is about control or emotional abuse. It might be, but it seems to be either physical, lack of confidence, or both-- so it could be that I identify with the main post because my experience is more like that.

      Aug 26, 2012
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    • lc14503

      I meant to say, "ask him to work on his problems so he can gain confidence, he'll take it as criticism and his confidence will plummet." Got cut off.

      Aug 26, 2012
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    • rosedl

      You can't change your partner. All you can do is let your spouse know what you need and want in a intimate relationship within your marriage. If you are honest and direct with your spouse, and they do nothing to address the issue, you can't really do anything to make them change. The usual dynamic is that the refuser promises to change, they do absolutely nothing to facilitate the change, and then the refused gets upset and brings up the lack of sex again....and the refuser promises to change, they do absolutely nothing to facilitate the change, the refused gets up sex and brings up sex again....on and on and on. Total vicious circle. No amount of lingerie, extra help around the house, cooking special meals, weight loss, fitness, new clothes, hair color, or gifts change the cycle. (Done them ALL....note to women....I lost 40 pounds, got in great shape, and I am considered very pretty and it did NOTHING to change the situation...I was available any time and he went to internet video sex)! So, what do you do? You get a sense of self, tell the refuser that while you respect their right to not engage in physical intimacy if this is their preference, you are not going to stay in a relationship that completely ignores your right to have a healthy fulfilling intimate relationship. You set your boundaries. Tell them what you need and if they don't do it, you leave or look elsewhere. Unfortunately, this usually begins phase 2 of the vicious circle. You set your boundaries. They try to buy time. Give a tiny bit or just enough to convince you they are trying. They can't keep it up. You remind them of the bargain. They try again, but can't keep it up. Unless you hold your set boundaries and leave or find a new sex partner, they will keep up the procrastination indefinitely. In the end, I did all this and I had to leave. He was NEVER going to change. I had to stop listening to his meaningless words and look at the meaning of his actions. The last five years were totally celibate, I was particularly dense. Looking back, it astounds me how much of the obvious I overlooked. What a waste of time! I should have left ages before I did. But, I did get out and I did find another guy, and sex is a nearly everyday event. Life is too short for this ****.

      Aug 27, 2012
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    • Juliebee12

      Couldn't have said it better myself, rosedl!!

      Sep 18, 2012
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  • laurapetrie

    R u happy or unhappy? Just wondering ...

    Jul 25, 2012
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  • nikkilostweight

    I would love to ask you a couple of things if you ever have the chance to listen.I posted something before and would like your Insight if you would not miind.

    Jul 23, 2012
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  • sensuousbull

    Outstanding post. I have never been married for a lot of the reasons you speak of. It is my choice, but I believe this post will give great insights to a lot of people. Thanks for sharing.

    Jul 18, 2012
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  • Vatervon2

    How disappointing that your comment is aimed squarely at men. Doesn't it take two to tango?



    Many of the comments here make the stereotypical assumption that early marriage is some kind of sex-filled nirvana. Well, hear this: it ain't always so.

    Jul 11, 2012
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  • SilentThinker

    I think the resentment due to compromise is a major part of marital discontent. The problem appears because it can be perceived as a zero sum game, ones gains is the others loss. So in your example if you decide to stay in the suburbs making you happy maybe you need to explicitly concede something in return. Unfortunately many people make a concession with the intent of revoking it later. The thought is :”Sure I’ll move to the suburbs but eventually convince you to move to the city”. But when those efforts fail there is resentment because the person never really accepted the concession, never really came to terms with the “I will live in the suburbs” part. So you have frustration because the “convincing” efforts have failed and anger because the partner is the perceived reason for the unhappiness (ie I don’t have what I really want / dreamt of).



    BTW Before your marriage you should have a good idea of what your future spouse’s ideal / dream life will be. If it is not common with yours, you have a problem. I can tell you that when I got married, the church obliged us to take a pre-marital class. We did ours last minute, as a check in the box, and that was a big mistake. As part of the class you are given a workbook that you fill out separately with things like: Do you want kids, where do you want to live and many other basic but important questions. When we compared answers I was shocked in how far apart we were in most of them. Looking back it should have been a red flag, too much compromise was needed to make the marriage work.



    One last thing. When you do compromise you need to see it as your decision, ie you take ownership of the compromise and make it yours. If you perceived it as “giving in” you have not really compromised, you have just temporary yielded and will always get frustrated and angry trying to revert.

    Apr 20, 2012
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  • outmymind

    Holy crap! Was my first thought and so started reading comments on this. We all want the answer to the so called reason for our problem but the reality is everyone is different and unique which would suggest so are the reasons. Maybe if couples discussed sex problems as they would any other problem might find there are some fascinating reasons. But usually one partner refuses to discuss it. Maybe out of embarrassment .

    Apr 20, 2012
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  • cairinkimberley

    People change and grow - either together or apart. What destroys a marriage is putting your every little desire ahead of your partner's needs. Treating them like an appliance instead of like a friend. Not allowing them to make their own mistakes and berating them for their humanity. Not every day is going to be heaven, but having a mutual respect and a genuine like for each other makes even a touch of a hand the shelter you need from a difficult world. When you slap that hand that reaches out for you are tearing your marriage apart. Your spouse does not start out as your enemy. We should hold on to each other and not blame each other. Once that distrust and hurt enters your home it will always be there, lurking.

    Apr 9, 2012
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  • clgsassy

    I really enjoyed reading the "other" part of the equation. Very well thought out, honest, and frankly gave me some food for thought.

    Feb 11, 2012
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  • Apocrypha

    This is a reasonable definition of a problem between couples -- men and women. Not just men. It is, aside from defining independence and propriety through the proxy of masculinity - almost verbatum what my wife has said, in defining her own loss of connection to her sexuality - getting lost in married life. Here is, for many couples, the elusive "why". Especially for those where it slips almost directly after the wedding day, and again after the kids. Don't get caught up in trying to pose masculinity definitions around this. It is about a connection to self-identity and sexuality first --those things can be expressed as masculinity or femininity later - or simply as sexuality.

    Feb 6, 2012
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  • 7milliontears

    Wonderful post - so true.



    I've tried with my husband. He's just too damaged from the false accusations. He's given up.



    He won't even listen to genuine compliments.



    It's tough. I'm very giving but he doesn't want any of it. Not the affection, praise, compliments, or sex.



    Sucks to be me. ;)

    Dec 14, 2011
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  • wannashareit

    Awesome!

    Dec 3, 2011
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  • wannashareit

    Awesome!

    Dec 3, 2011
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  • clearedhot58

    Well written, and great insight into a common problem.

    Nov 28, 2011
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