God Vs Science.

  God vs science


Hang in there and read to the end....very interesting!
 'Let me explain the problem science has with religion.'
 The atheist professor of philosophy pauses before his class and then asks one of his new students to stand.
'You're a Christian, aren't you, son?'
'Yes sir,' the student says.
'So you believe in God?'
'Absolutely. '
'Is God good?'
'Sure! God's good.'
'Is God all-powerful? Can God do anything?'
'Are you good or evil?'
'The Bible says I'm evil.'
The professor grins knowingly.. 'Aha! The Bible! He considers for a moment. 'Here's one for you. Let's say there's a
sick person over here and you can cure him. You can do it. Would you help him? Would you try?'
'Yes sir, I would.'
'So you're good....!'
'I wouldn't say that.'
'But why not say that? You'd help a sick and maimed person if you could. Most of us would if we could. But God doesn't.'
The student does not answer, so the professor continues. 'He doesn't, does he? My brother was a Christian who died of cancer,
even though he prayed to Jesus to heal him. How is this Jesus good? Can you answer that one?'
The student remains silent. 'No, you can't, can you?' the professor says. He takes a sip of water from a glass on his desk to give
the student time to relax. 'Let's start again, young fella. Is God good?'
'Er..yes,' the student says.
'Is Satan good?'
The student doesn't hesitate on this one. 'No.'
'Then where does Satan come from?'

The student falters. 'From God'
'That's right. God made Satan, didn't he? Tell me, son. Is there evil in this world?'
'Yes, sir..'
'Evil's everywhere, isn't it? And God did make everything, correct?'
'So who created evil?' The professor continued, 'If God created everything, then God created evil, since evil exists,
and according to the principle that our works define who we are, then God is evil.'
Again, the student has no answer. 'Is there sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness? All these terrible things, do they exist in this world?'
The student squirms on his feet. 'Yes.'
'So who created them?'
The student does not answer again, so the professor repeats his question. 'Who created them?' There is still no answer.
Suddenly the lecturer breaks away to pace in front of the classroom. The class is mesmerized. 'Tell me,' he continues onto
another student. 'Do you believe in Jesus Christ, son?'
The student's voice betrays him and cracks. 'Yes, professor, I do.'
The old man stops pacing. 'Science says you have five senses you use to identify and observe the world around you. Have you ever seen Jesus?'
'No sir.. I've never seen Him..'
'Then tell us if you've ever heard your Jesus?'
'No, sir, I have not..'
'Have you ever felt your Jesus, tasted your Jesus or smelt your Jesus? Have you ever had any sensory perception of Jesus Christ, or God for that matter?'
'No, sir, I'm afraid I haven't.'
'Yet you still believe in him?'
'According to the rules of empirical, testable, demonstrable protocol, science says your God doesn't exist... What do you say to that, son?'
'Nothing,' the student replies.. 'I only have my faith.'
'Yes, faith,' the professor repeats. 'And that is the problem science has with God.. There is no evidence, only faith.'
The student stands quietly for a moment, before asking a question of His own. 'Professor, is there such thing as heat? '
' Yes.
'And is there such a thing as cold?'

'Yes, son, there's cold too.'

'No sir, there isn't.'
The professor turns to face the student, obviously interested. The room suddenly becomes very quiet. The student begins to explain. 'You can have lots of heat, even more heat, super-heat, mega-heat, unlimited heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat, but we don't have anything called 'cold'. We can hit down to 458 degrees below zero, which is no heat, but we can't go any further after that. There is no such thing as cold; otherwise we would be able to go colder than the lowest -458 degrees. Every body or object is susceptible to study when it has or transmits energy, and heat is what makes a body or matter have or transmit energy. Absolute zero (-458 F) is the total absence of heat. You see, sir, cold is only a word we use to describe the absence of heat. We cannot measure cold. Heat we can measure in thermal units because heat is energy. Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it.'
Silence across the room. A pen drops somewhere in the classroom, sounding like a hammer.
'What about darkness, professor. Is there such a thing as darkness?'
'Yes,' the professor replies without hesitation.. 'What is night if it isn't darkness?'
'You're wrong again, sir. Darkness is not something; it is the absence of something. You can have low light, normal light, bright light, flashing light, but if you have no light constantly you have nothing and it's called darkness, isn't it? That's the meaning we use to define the word. In reality, darkness isn't. If it were, you would be able to make darkness darker, wouldn't you?'
The professor begins to smile at the student in front of him. This will be a good semester. 'So what point are you making, young man?'
'Yes, professor. My point is, your philosophical premise is flawed to start with, and so your conclusion must also be flawed.'
The professor's face cannot hide his surprise this time. 'Flawed? Can you explain how?'
'You are working on the premise of duality,' the student explains.. 'You argue that there is life and then there's death; a good God and a bad God. You are viewing the concept of God as something finite, something we can measure. Sir, science can't even explain a thought.' 'It uses electricity and magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one. To view death as the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive thing. Death is not the opposite of life, just the absence of it.' 'Now tell me, professor.. Do you teach your students that they evolved from a monkey?'
'If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, young man, yes, of course I do.'
'Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir?'
The professor begins to shake his head, still smiling, as he realizes where the argument is going. A very good semester, indeed..
'Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavor, are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you now not a scientist, but a preacher?'
The class is in uproar. The student remains silent until the commotion has subsided. 'To continue the point you were making earlier to the other student, let me give you an example of what I mean.' The student looks around the room. 'Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the professor's brain?' The class breaks out into laughter. 'Is there anyone here who has ever heard the professor's brain, felt the professor's brain, touched or smelt the professor's brain? No one appears to have done so. So, according to the established rules of empirical, stable, demonstrable protocol, science says that you have no brain, with all due respect, sir..' 'So if science says you have no brain, how can we trust your lectures, sir?'
Now the room is silent. The professor just stares at the student, his face unreadable. Finally, after what seems an eternity, the old man answers. 'I Guess you'll have to take them on faith.'
'Now, you accept that there is faith, and, in fact, faith exists with life,' the student continues. 'Now, sir, is there such a thing as evil?'
Now uncertain, the professor responds, 'Of course, there is. We see it Everyday. It is in the daily example of man's inhumanity to man. It is in The multitude of crime and violence everywhere in the world. These manifestations are nothing else but evil.'
To this the student replied, 'Evil does not exist sir, or at least it does not exist unto itself. Evil is simply the absence of God. It is just like darkness and cold, a word that man has created to describe the absence of God. God did not create evil. Evil is the result of what happens when man does not have God's love present in his heart. It's like the cold that comes when there is no heat or the darkness that comes when there is no light.'
The professor sat down.

If you read it all the way through and had a smile on your face when you finished, mail to your friends and family with the title 'God vs. Science'

PS: the student was Albert Einstein
Albert Einstein wrote a book titled God vs. Science in 1921...
basy basy
56-60, M
8 Responses Feb 28, 2012

First: you propose the Bible or the Quran are the written word of God.<br />
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So before "God" dictated these books there was No Word of God?<br />
When one carefully reads these books there are some very great things and others which make one wonder.<br />
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I have never seen a Bible which magically appeared. They all seem to require printing presses.<br />
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Modern day American-Republican-Christians proclaim homosexuality evil, but do not proclaim the great and holy wisdom of selling daughters into slavery. Does this mean "I" get to pick and choose? Could I decide that the homosexuality-abomination part is moot or no longer appropriate, but selling a daughter for a good price-why the Bible says I can do this your honor. I'm just being a 'good christian'.<br />
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I do like the story of Lot for how a good man of gawd should act.<br />
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If the Bible has anything in it which is worth hearing it is God's words early on: <br />
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Do not eat of the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.<br />
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I find the second you divide the world into this and that, and call one good and the other evil, you have pretty much ****** the entire thing. and given that you believe (by You I mean Christians) are evil, then everything you say is therefore evil; just one of those ipso-facto things.<br />
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As to 'Not seeing evolution' that is not accurate. There are plants which in the course of 100 years that have been separated from their origin 'stock' adapted to fit the new changed environment and now are so morphologically different they can no longer cross pollinate with the stock they originated from. There are insects of a similar nature as well.<br />
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And I would say modern America-Christian-Republicans are showing it might be possible to de-evolve into chimps in only a few generations.<br />
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I did not see anything in the Bible which says there is no evolution. I have seen some ignorant people interpret the image of a little old man in a mud puddle making a variety of chickens, goats and pigs to mean that this was exactly how it was done.<br />
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I think a God that can create a universe in which life Will be created out of inanimate ob<x>jects and then Evolve into billions of different lifeforms, some of which will go extinct and others which will spring up in the new and changing world, well this to me is a very impressive god.<br />
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Muddle puddle make a play-doh puppy god not so impressive to me personally.<br />
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To ME the Word of God is the creation itself.<br />
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I strongly suspect the 'written words of god' are far more the work of people whose intention is to steal, harm, control, divide and diminish people.<br />
From the Crusades, to the Inquisition to the ********* priests assisted and supported by the Church to the muslim cherry picking their reasons why killing people is OK, I have seen organized religion do more to harm than it has ever done good.<br />
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Are any of you aware that the Catholic church is the largest slum landlord in New York City? Bad enough it does not take a portion of its wealth and repair the slums it owns, it does nothing to organize people that they could do this With the church so the church might do it for less.<br />
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No it is far more important to see that the ********* priest is moved to a 'fresh' diocese where he can 'save a fresh batch of children'. <br />
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And just because Einstein was an OK physicist, does not make him a good philosopher.<br />
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If cold does not exist, since it is the 'lack of heat' we are discussing, then there is no evil, given that that is only the lack of good=lack of God.<br />
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and given the Fact that matter does Not really exist, but is only and event of energy AND that there is mostly empty space within us and the atoms which make us AND the atoms which make up that bus, just stand there and have faith.<br />
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And given that y'all are just ignoring the "Judge Not" because you could NOT KNOW. let me give you a very nice "what if".<br />
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What if there are these souls, just evil-wicked and need to be 'balanced' through a bit of suffering.<br />
So God has them born on a part of Earth and then he sends down a Host of Heavenly but Avenging Angels in human form to help cleanse these souls in need of suffering redemption.<br />
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The chief of God's Avenging Angels name is Adolph Hitler. And he and but a few thousand of his heavenly angels doing his good and benevolent works, managed to 'save' more than 6 million souls.<br />
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And there is no statue to Saint Adolph.<br />
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see if you can hear it this time:<br />
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do not Eat of the Fruit the TREE of the Knowledge of good and evil. <br />
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oh do we see some branches?

Posted by SongOfaLife on Mar 18th, 2012 at 3:03AM<br />
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I've heard this story before. But that time the student was Dr. Abdul Kalam.<br />
as see above person is mentioning an other person in India:-)<br />
We can not see Air but we feel its existence same we can not touch these things but they are there. so same with God, can not see it be he exist.<br />
He Is light of universe,and beyond our imagination. Even he is with in us:-)<br />
We do not know may mysteries yet and how things happened.<br />
You believe or not he is there.<br />
You just try to be good to all, these things belong to supper wisdom we can not solve these things.<br />
Faith is blind we know it.<br />
I want to recommend, read Quran,but so afraid you are allergic of religions.<br />
I know human nature hate restriction, so its hard to act on religion I know.<br />
As God says If you do good you benefit and if bad you get harmed, God do not needs yours prayer<br />
Time goes on life is short,

I've heard this story before. But that time the student was Dr. Abdul Kalam.

I am against any thing which is unnatural and I feel such a disgusting things are devil inspiration. we know evil always stink,even bad one feel it,but people who have gone to its extreme,,, probably do not feel its worse.<br />
I know and believe, though having some doubt, truth is truth,no matter I understand It or not.<br />
and know too, truth crush eventually Bad, lie,negativity, or evil.<br />
evil has no ba<x>se., but evil is sure a power against good(God) created by God sure<br />
Why just for trial how we act in this life.<br />
I know there are three kind of people In this world<br />
A: very very good,as saints.( they have power to kick evil)<br />
B: moderate<br />
C: And evils or very bad people In extreme<br />
Why such a suffering with good nature people,and good luck with bad people. I feel if prophets had suffering its ok and acceptable to suffer for this short life and save ourselves against a long always suffering in other word from were we came, My mind is no so clear and I am happy,God knows the best for us,what ever he does,he is the creator. and know what is best for us.<br />
I feel, there must be a day of judgment and hope we get some where justice one day.<br />
I want to see evils gets punishment, But I know too that evil power Is created by God too, because he is the creator of every thing, and what is purpose of evil, just for judgement.<br />
Yes its true when heart is with out God presence,,, evil possesses this heart.<br />
I know evil has importance, if no evil and all is good there ,how could be bad deeds could be measure.<br />
We know ,we got not enough wisdom,as our brain only 10 percent part is In use.<br />
Sure one day time is coming we could use our brain in full and discover many things, many doubt sure to be solve, unseen will be seen soon.<br />
With out religion, there is no difference between we and animals.( as we know animals have no boundaries .for them sister,mother all are for sex. )<br />
consciousness is given to man kind,and through that inner voice planted ,with in us By God human knows what is good or bad., he can easily decided what to do and what to not, no matter he is religious or not.<br />
I wish guide for all my human brothers and sister<br />
Best of luck and blessing.<br />
God is light of haven and earth, from his spirit or life stream or life generator we called live, with out his spirit we called dead.

I am agree with you about many things, but I brought up in strong faith, which says ,<br />
This world is a short period for our good and bad deeds<br />
reward or punishment is not here, but on day of judgement,<br />
God do not interfere what ever we do here, So killing millions people in Naze Jermany keeps me very sad, how they burned many child,pretty women, young's because of one man orders, no could stopped them,<br />
all is mystery,<br />
many things like a evil person having good life, luck etc. I feel many thing In my heart,<br />
I have seen many poor crying for help, I can not understand,<br />
I feel to be a human Its not blessing birds animal better than us in many ways, all is free for them, watch documentary<br />
but we human having suffering In every thing.<br />
Some time I feel all is inherited too, rich father,rich kids, poor, father poor kids.<br />
Yes I feel many thing but afraid of saying such a things, might be not again a loser in other world.

One thing more every thing has two fold kinds<br />
day, night<br />
male female<br />
white, black<br />
good,evil<br />
So we have to believe<br />
Good (God)<br />
Bad (evil)<br />
If no evil how would we come to know there Is God too????

Light is light, has no names, So God is God, No christian, Muslims Jews God.<br />
One and only one God.<br />
source energy of all living creatures,( This borrowed light or spirit Makes able to move every creature including human on this planet and is source of Life, )<br />
we considered dead,when this energy,which we give name Spirit has left our body.

I wonder if as Einstein age, did he do some rethinking?<br />
Something to research. :)