I Couldn't Stand It.

good works don't get u to heaven. It's about relationship with God the Father God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. When u know deep down in your spirit u should be praying and talking to God and then actually do it. You feel a peace and comfort.

I was raised catholic but would never set foot in that judgemental hellhole again. I believe Jesus was a good and decent person trying to spread a message about peace, love, and acceptance. I have studied the history of religion. I am not a christian, but I do believe in the basic message. People have polluted this message so badly. It's only about giving and love.Good job living the love. That's all that matters.

I am a pastor and people have been trying to disprove the Bible and Jesus Christ for centuries. Now every religion is organized by man. There is no way of getting away from that. But Jesus Christ was the one who instituted the church from the beginning.



Do you realize that there is more proof that Jesus Christ existed than that of many historical figures in the world.



Look up Simon Greenleaf;he was the most the most authority on trial evidence. He considered all of the evidence he could find. Archaelogy, Church history, historical records, eye witness accounts, the physical evidence. He said that given all of this information that the death, burial and resurrection is as valid as any other event in the history of the world.

Islam is the real truth. The Qur'an is logical and if you just try reading it once, you'll realize Islam is the real truth. Just try reading it once, if you don't agree with it, then, fine your decision...

I was a Lutheran, and it has taken time. I think it was a least a couple months before I was certain that I didn't believe, but then the problem was (and still is a little) what do I believe then? I think I've decided on taking the morals and philosophies of a Buddhist, and it makes me happy knowing that I can do good things for myself and others because I want to, and not because a deity says I should.

I'm an atheist... and I'll go ahead and say that out of all the religion posts I've read, this is by far the most reasonable one and I applaud any other atheist who read it and didn't go off on a rant (I know far too many of "that kind").



I actually lost my faith last year. I'm from a very religious family and I don't know whether it was just being away or the fact that my bf is an atheist also (probably that one), but I started asking questions and found what I think are some flaws in the logic of the Bible. Then again, I chose to find them, so I probably looked exclusively for them and didn't take it all as a whole. I know that I do not have an adequate knowledge of the Bible and I don't claim to, so please correct me if I'm wrong.



As for me personally, I would like to think that I would have helped the homeless man. When I was in New York, I did buy food for one, but I don't think that I would have gone as far as you did. I was too afraid. So bravo for you!



I forget who it was exactly, but someone else said in the comments (and once again, correct me if I'm wrong) that everything seemed brighter when they turned away. For me, things weren't brighter... just clearer. I was able to look at things logically and work things out on my own without and preconceived notions.

a moive is just trying to sell yu somethings



churchad many of them are trying to sell you something



the bible was written by man many say underguideances from above like king james thatwanted to devorce his wife so he had a bible written



like preisdent jefferson that wrote a bible then had it given to congess manyyears ago supoose to tbe the same bible they use to day so you can look around and see it is all BS

I completely understand how you feel. Although the realization that Christianity was fake happened at a much earlier age for me, I have been through this. The whole story about the homeless man only shows the importance of Christian teachings. Christianity as a "path to heaven" is flawed. Here's the reason: If your are accepting Jesus Christ as your personal savior in order to avoid hell you are not being sincere. I really do not think that Jesus Christ meant for his teachings to be distorted as they have been. What is important is living a life according to the prophet's teachings. You should focus a lot less on making it to heaven and a lot more on being the best person you can possibly be. Keep looking, I have faith that you will find an answer to your delimna.

Well for me as Amuslim, i belive in one God and its Allah, who create every thing and Jesus (peace upon him) is only his massenger and prophet, all the massengers and prophets with the same level and we have to belive in that.

There is no justis in the earth, so thats why it should be heaven and hill in the day of judgement>

I would have helped the homeless man and not gave it a thought, and, I am Wiccan, kindness is not exclusive to Christians, it's about your spirit and how generous and compassionate you are

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i have experienced exactly the same thng. i was a devoted christian, but then it hit me when i thought about my mother. shes buddhist and im christian. what if she goes to hell? she has been a better person than me and i dont deserve it. i started praying but it didnt work. there was no real way of communicating. i had a little talk with her. i was crying like crazy and i couldnt control myself. i told her everything about that. i had held it in since i was little. she told me that no one knows if there is a heaven or hell. we humans dont understand this type of thing. we never will. the mind has cravings for knowledge of life and the spirit, and when unsolved, it can lead to major depression and sadness. eventualy, there comes a time in all of us were we ask that question. who am i? why am i here? is god real? you just have to accept the fact that somethings are not real. its not easy. i had to learn it the hard way. if you love something, let it go. you need not concentrate in heaven. you never know if you have a second life or if you go to heaven or hell. this might be the only chance you have at life.

Good point, TG. But that's postmodern thinking for you. It's a "live and let live" type philosophy. It has good intentions (peace and tolerance), but it fails to do so. It asks great questions without answering them. Postmodernity was a rebellion against modernity because it didn't work either. Neither did premodernity. When it comes down to it, it seems that we may never acquire absolute truth until after death, and even that's not guaranteed. We humans need faith because when it comes down to it, that's really all we have. I choose to put my faith in Christianity. It comforts me.

The statement "Anyone who claims to posses absolute truth is full of it' contradicts itself. It purports to be a statement of absolute truth, stating that there is no such thing as absolute truth. Non-Sequitur.



Now, if that statement is intended to be relative such that 'all truth is relative' then again it is contradictory because the statement itself purports to be a statement of truth. If indeed truth is relative than I might believe in Zoroaster and that would be true for me; your opinion of my belief would be nothing more than your truth, not mine.



It all comes down to this: how do you know that what you believe is really real? If you believe that what you believe is really real, do you live that way? If not, why not?

It is a bit hard to love someone who you don't even know exists. I try to love God with all my heart, but I guess I have to believe on Him with all my heart first. That's hard though...I don't know if I believe in anything with all my heart, much less Someone Whom I can't even see.

Yes!! I think so, I think that it's a good idea to definitely focus on God, not religion. He is after all, the one we should be focusing on, and in light of Him all doubts and insecurities, fears, can't exist. I can't talk because I have been going through my set of failures and insecurities lately, and they make me feel far from God, but when I am abiding in Christ, that is when there are no doubts. God loves us more then we can imagine, and not only that though, He wants our love too! To place Him in a place that demands and implies that He isn't real, isn't only as insult to Him, but shows we have no love for Him, which is the FIRST and GREATEST commandment/thing He asks of us. Genuine doubts are ok though, they only come to show us faith.

That's what I love about Christianity...it gives me hope and meaning. That's why I can't lose it again. Maybe I should focus more on God before I focus on Christianity as a whole...you think?

Ohh thinking about if "Christianity" is true or not, is confusing yeah. But if you think about it as "is God" true or not, that makes things much easier! Putting Christianity into a box of religion makes it on par with the rest of the "religions" out there, that's a bad idea, because for many many reason's Christianity shouldn't even be considered a "religion" really. (insert long digression on why not)



There's truth, then there's not. God is either true, or He's not. He isn't kind of true, or maybe existent. I think trouble comes from so many religions, and everyone trying to push religion or lack-of-religion onto people. Only truth will stand the test of time, and the test of your heart, I've never heard of a Christian, on their deathbed who was without hope, never heard of one who said "I sure think living for Christ was a waste of time." I have heard of atheists though, who were brokenhearted, scared and sad at the end of life, sad that life had no meaning, and was now over. Scared because of the emptiness that they thought they were looking forward to.



Anyways, sorry for long comment, eek, it's fun thinking about things deeper then the surface sometimes, and we all know that EP aint the best place for that usually, but sometimes it sure can be, Lol! :D

That's true...which is kind of my problem. There are so many possibilities of what absolute truth could be, but I can't obtain it for sure. I can take a leap of faith and believe that Christianity is truth, but I can't know for sure, which drives me batty.

I wouldn't consider Jesus "full of it."

I sure hope you're right, pro :-)

The Truth is good because it allows you to make the best decisions for your life. The truth will not change and indeed it will “set you free” from the bondage of this world and man’s philosophies. You have not found it; therefore it is frightful to you. I was where you are some years ago. Let me know when and if you decide to know the truth…it does exists and it is very GOOD!!!

I'm not so sure anymore. It's like my mind tells me I do, but deep down, I actually fear the truth.

Do you REALLY want to know the truth?

What above reference sounds Mormon?



You're right...my faith was given to me by my parents. I think that's one of the weaknesses of it...it basically just comes down to the fact that my family is Christian. If they weren't, I wonder if I would even be a Christian today.



The good thing is that I'm taking a course called Faith & Culture that seems to be helping build my faith. I think it is helping, but I do need to do my own research. I suppose I'm just usually too lazy to do that :-P

The above reference sounds Mormon, don't believe it.

I recommend "the case for Christ" and "The Case for Faith"

I too have seen films, read books and asked all the hard questions, and will continue to ask the hard questions of faith. Jesus is the way. Keep studying. It sounds like you were given your parents christianity. You need Christ Himself a faith that is yours. keep studying.

remember, coroborating evidence is nessessary for real proof. A movie should not move you that much unless your faith was never backed up with a historical look at the faith of christianity.

there is no convincing by my words only. The spirit of God does that. Keep studying!!!

Maybe it was me, but I don't want to believe that...the idea that God was guiding me was what boosted my faith. You can Google it if you want to watch the movie.

The thing guiding you to help the man may well have been you. I'd be interested in finding out was supposed proof this movie has though.

Illuminati? Wazzat?

zeigeist didn't say all of christianity was a lie. it was targeted at exposing the illuminati.