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I See the Education System Leaving People Behind

Whats Wrong With Our Educational System

By: MsRebel
Written on August 25th, 2010
By: MsRebel
Age: 26-30 , Female
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  • tulick

    oh but you DO think that college teaches you those things



    "the applicant has successfully completed enough public speaking classes that he can accurately and persuasively communicate complex information to other people, including people with whom he is speaking on the telephone"



    persuation is a whole other ball game so is telephone etiquette



    YOU have to teach employees how YOU want your phone answered how YOU want your employees interacting with the public you deal with



    because college graduates who are not communication majors or psych majors take 1 maybe 2 of each of those courses



    and i'll tell you something else grammatically perfect is never going to happen simply because you are dealing with people and not machines



    and you are paying more for degree holders because thats the system your fellow employers have set up not to mention depending on the type of business certain degree feilds are a real asset with the proper training



    the problem you see someone with a degree and think you can shove them into a job and say do it and have to put no further effort into it

    Sep 29, 2010
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  • V8AC

    tulick - I am a program manager for a large corporation who has frequently complained about the talent pool that walks through our doors looking for a job. I do not believe that a college degree implies "you know every little possible nuance that comes with a braod (sic) degree like social work." However, I do believe that a college degree should imply the following: 1. the applicant has passed enough English classes that he can write clear, concise, grammatically correct sentences that accurately communicate complex information; 2. the applicant has successfully completed enough public speaking classes that he can accurately and persuasively communicate complex information to other people, including people with whom he is speaking on the telephone; 3. that through a combination of his interactions with others in a university environment and his psychology classes, the applicant understands people well enough to comply with simple etiquette.



    On the other hand, I do not expect the university to teach people our corporate philosophy; our corporate policy and goals; the specific processes we use in our office; or the details of projects upon which our employees are currently working. Consequently, we provided extensive training in these specific areas. However, with rare exceptions, we did not provide training in Reading, Writing or Arithmetic (or phone skills). One of the rare exceptions was a class on "Arguing with the Client" which we developed after several of our engineers offended client personnel because the client was determined to something that was either unethical or unsound from an engineering perspective.



    The cold, hard facts are that we are in a competitive business. If we do not provide products and services superior to those of our competitors and provide them at a lower cost, we will not be in business five years from now. Training increases our costs. Since we are already paying higher wages to get employees with college degrees, why should we expect to provide them training in the areas they should have mastered in college?



    Current data suggests that a college education roughly doubles your earning power. If it does not equip you to enter the workforce in a productive manner, why in the heck are we paying you twice as much as we should expect to pay a high school graduate?

    Sep 25, 2010
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  • tulick

    you know why employers bemoan their pool of applicants because they think that college degrees teach customer service skills, phone skills, basic PC skills, bussiness ediquite (for non business majors)



    they think that a degree means you know every little possible nuance that comes with a braod degree like social work which is unrealistic and therefore they think they don't have to provide training at all which is of course WRONG



    those who take on interns don't know what to do with them and treat them like green aliens and its not just a US problem someone from singapore commented that he babysat interns in his job and said those that were not asked to return included those who got stuck on proatical things, were not resourceful and creative in problem solving, had no idea how to get people to help them, had suprisingly poor phone skills



    BUT 2 things- these people had little or no work experience so WHERE would they have learned phone skills ???????



    and this man in charge of interns didn't think ONCE to try and cultivate that creativity resourfulness or problem solving in struggling interns



    ON THE JOB TRAINING used to be the norn now for some reason we think its a 4 letter word and you HAVE to train your employee how YOU want YOUR business phone answered how to do YOUR companies paperwork, how to use software ONLY avaible for training and use in a job setting detex egalsoft, power church to name a few



    when what employers want to do is throw someone in an office throw them in front of a phone throw them into whatever job say get to work and never have to look at them until they need something from them



    that's why sp many "can't do their job" they were never trained how no one in the workplace is avaible to ask enevitable questions that come up



    parents, teachers and comunity entities are left to teach skills traditionally learned on the job (like phone skills) without anyone bothering to infrom them then employers complain



    WELL PICK UP THE ******* BALL AND TRAIN YOUR PEOPLE !!!!



    as for education K-12 still wants to teach like chalie browns teacher, refusing to intigrate technology and thinks proven to increase attendence, test scores and learning



    we don't give kids a chance to experiment, learn who they are what they're good at so by the time they get to college they have no idea what to major in and when they do find one they are soon board and disinterested with it

    Aug 26, 2010
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  • MsRebel

    ty for all ur comments, we can only pray things get better, or vote these bastards out that are making things worse yo

    Aug 26, 2010
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  • gonnabamillionaire

    i give up on the education system but that system you mention that leaves people behind !!! yea thats the 34TH street bus !!!! i hate that driver so i now take the bus directly 2 Sesamea ST.........

    Aug 26, 2010
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  • timesoftrouble

    The reasons for the world as it is today centers on exactly what you wrote because today's education is false because so was yesterdays and prior to that also which is why there is so much government corruption worldwide with the crumbling foundation of the once worlds greatest single nation getting ready crumble into dust while bringing the USA down hard and into a new world order with a complete financial collapse ten thousand times worse than the crash of 1929.



    And what is no different than the false and incomplete education from schools and collages is the teachings in all churches worldwide that teach nothing but incomplete false education; and the true education that all need to know and understand now only very few are aware of; but soon when great tribulation is here and millions into the billions become victims, only then will they know that the blind was leading the blind within a whole world of deception. Proverbs 1:22-32 is a good lesson with the book of Lamentations that all need to get used to as their new way of life that's most certainly coming.



    I admire that you can see the blindness of humanity; and the source is the god of this world who makes men into shame and confusion. Jeremiah 3:25

    Aug 26, 2010
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  • CaptainJackass

    My old middle school is an example of how the education system can use some of its own education. The year after i graduated they made this pointless idea to combine all the classes together. Before they had different levels for the classes so no one would get left behind or to far ahead. then for no reason they decided to **** that all up by putting kids of different levels in the same class so it can get all screwed up. I dont hate our system but can understand some of its kinda stupid and could use a little help.

    Aug 25, 2010
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