Its something I contemplate often.

What if I dont exist, and I only think I do?   Would it make any difference?

 

The guitar I never played... the dreams I never had... the photographs I never took...

What if everything was just a figment of my imagination?  An imagination manifested through imagination.  What if everything I ever thought, felt, and did was for nothing? 

Would it make any difference at all?

 

If it didn't, then I would change.  I could do what I wanted to do, without the fear of disappointing  or hurting anyone.  For it would affect no one.

And if it did, then I would go on existing as I do.

WoundedButterfly WoundedButterfly
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11 Responses Feb 6, 2010

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I dont know what you are apologizing for. Should I be on the lookout for whoopie cushions on my chair something? ;)

The only thing that really binds us in this world is time and space, the rest, I believe, is infinitely variable. Within in our own minds me are stopped, or held back, by the boundaries that the world teaches us to respect.<br />
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And I'm sorry, I'm sorry sorry sorry sorry. I'm finding it very hard to express emotion in written form here... but I'm sorry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Basically yes. However it is kind of crude in terms of natural language, but you have done well to put it in words.<br />
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Now, what is reality?<br />
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Below perspective means possible perspective.<br />
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More thought (example inspired by Bertrand Russell):<br />
Consider a coin. The coin is round right. Yet, from almost every angle that we look at it it will appear oval shaped. Somehow by looking at the coin from heaps of perspectives we come up with the intuitive notion of a circular coin which is capable of describing all the perspectives. This is how science works. However seeing the coin as a coin in itself is just a perspective on a higher level, and the process goes on...(hopefully you get the picture) (And you want the coin to be independent of the perspectives.)<br />
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"darkness within darkness the gate to all mystery" - Tao Te Ching<br />
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This seems like the hard way (there is more that can be said about it and how it may apply to quantization and category theory (new radical idea)). Anyways, is there a way we can get there directly?<br />
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It seems natural to me to somehow define something in terms of all the perspectives, however doing this seems to require an iteration in terms of perspectives on higher levels. This is why I believe category theory should be the fundamental language for physics.<br />
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I wish I could draw a picture of what I mean but hopefully you get some of the idea. I should probably stop bothering you now.<br />
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The pursuit of to understand time, the self, the universe and all that jazz is quite an enterprise, and a solid understanding of things that have been done before would prove helpful. I think that you would benefit greatly from reading chapter 37 (quantum behavior) of Feynman Lectures on Physics Vol 1. I really think that you will really enjoy it (and don't worry there is not much to read but much to be thought about).

Thanks for the suggestion. I'll plonk it on my list of books to read. :D<br />
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Your cat situation reminds me of Schrodinger's cat. I'm not sure I quite understand what it is you mean, though. When you say the possibility of perception exceeds perception itself in terms of importance, do you mean that it is the consideration of such a concept that counts? More so than the possibility itself that existence is not real?<br />
If that is indeed what you're saying, you have an interesting point. I guess its the thought in the first place that would prompt one to change anything. And change is after all the essence of existence.<br />
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Argh. Now I'm tangled in philosophical pondery-things. Ooh look, sparkly!!

It's not a bad idea to read the first 3 or 4 chapters of Problems in Philosophy by Bertrand Russell.<br />
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However, you really never know if you exist or not so perhaps emphasis should be on our perception (I realize it is a bit strange to say OUR if we don't exist). But then suppose I see a cat, then I turn around, now because I can't see it, does it make sense to say it doesn't exist? I have thought of a thought experiment a while ago which involve quantum mechanics and seems to suggest that the cat does exist (if the cat and the observer are in the same universe). Remind me about it sometime (it's called the Newton-Young experiment) I might put it up on my blog sometime. The point is that it is not quite the perception that matters but the possibility of perception. I think I have started to ramble on a bit. So I will stop there.

That's a curious idea. But you know what, even if we don't exist. Even if its all a dream, we have to live through it. Because it does matter to us and others. Think in NOW. Because this is what existence is.<br />
What is present is reality. At least for us.

What if our world we live in was one big hologram, coded with information about the nature of the universe. Its difficult to imagine being immersed in a false reality, set by someone superier to us. we are an experiment in the creators version of the world. You asked a very fascinating question. Its been awhile since I asked the same exact question. Is your existence as real as the computer as I am typing.

I've wondered the same for several years. Since I was about 9, I imagined that I was in a coma, and everything that was happening was just my thoughts slowly dieing. I've felt like I've never been able to control anything, I only cause. Perhaps I AM in a coma, Maybe I AM dead. Or maybe there's an answer we do not know of yet.

" I think therefore i am"...said a philosopher, that's how you know you exist. Whether it has any meaning, well that's entirely up to yourself :)

I often wonder the same thing, if im a figment of my own imagination... or the figment of another persons imagination. If this whole universe is nothing more than a dream which belongs to someone ealse? If I am nothing more the product of someone who may be daydreaming in class about something random? Then I begin to dout my existance. Honestly, I just think to much. But like you said, "What I do for another is more impactful than what I do for myself" and I agree.

Yes! Great thought!<br />
Blake: 'That which is real was once only imagin'd'<br />
Simply being present and observing has an impact on life. A feeling, whether real or imagined, as long as it stirs ones emotions is valid, in my estimation.<br />
Consider this: Does it matter if it makes any difference or not? Consider those you come in contact with, how do you make them feel or think? That is a firm reality!<br />
I have discovered that what I do for another is more impactful than what I do for myself. Perhaps you are there, too!<br />
And even this: How much of a choice do we have in life? We exist, such as it is, but do we decide when it is otherwise?<br />
Peace!