It Is An Extraordinary Achievement!

Vietnam style backstabbing. Liberal regimes make war only on the liberties of their own citizens.

This generation that is fighting in Iraq and in Afghanistan is the new greatest generation.

Yes, the US Military has won the War in Iraq. ‘The enemy within’ is clearly America’s most dangerous enemy, ever.

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The Great Betrayal   By David Horowitz and Ben Johnson
FrontPageMagazine.com | Thursday, March 19, 2009

 

On this sixth anniversary of America's invasion of Iraq, there is finally a consensus among supporters and opponents that we’ve won the war. The surge that Bush launched and Democrats opposed has been successful and, as a result, Iraq has become a Middle Eastern democracy, an anti-terrorist regime, and an American ally. It would be hard to imagine a more remarkable turnabout or a more comprehensive repudiation of conventional political wisdom. Yet this has not led to a comparable reappraisal by critics of the war of their previous attacks, or to any mea culpas by Democrats who launched a scorched earth campaign against the president who led it, and continued it for five years while the war dragged on.

The Democratic attacks on the war described America’s commander-in-chief as a liar who misled his country and sent American soldiers to die in a conflict that was unnecessary, illegal and unjust. This made prosecution of the war incalculably harder while strengthening the resolve of our enemies to defeat us. It is time to re-evaluate the words and actions of the war’s opponents in the stark light of a history that proved them wrong.

In the fall of 2002, a majority of Democrats in the Senate joined Republicans in voting to authorize President Bush to use force to remove the regime of Saddam Hussein. In July 2003, only three months after Saddam had been removed, the Democratic National Committee launched a national campaign which accused President Bush of lying in order to trick Democrats into voting for the war. It was the beginning of a five-year campaign designed to paint the president as the liar-in-chief and America as a criminal aggressor, and the military occupier of a poor country that had not attacked us.

What had changed in the intervening three months to turn Democrats so vehemently against the war they had authorized? The answer can only be found in domestic politics. In those three months, an unknown antiwar candidate named Howard Dean had taken the lead in the primary polls and was looking like a shoe-in for the Democratic presidential nomination. As a result rival candidates who had voted for the war, including eventual nominees Kerry and Edwards, changed their positions 180 degrees and joined the attacks on President Bush. Naturally, the Democrats couldn’t admit their attacks were motivated by crass political calculations. Instead, they claimed that they had been deceived by the White House which had manipulated the intelligence on Iraq, persuading them to support the war on false premises.

This allegation was in fact the biggest lie of the war, since Democrats had full access to all U.S. intelligence on Iraq through their seats on the congressional intelligence committees. This intelligence was available to them, in advance of their vote to authorize the use of force. In the months and years that followed, the Democrats added other false charges -- that troops “killed innocent civilians in cold blood,” were “terrorizing kids and…women,” and had committed atrocities comparable to “Nazis, Soviets in their gulags, or some mad regime.” They rejoiced when news reporters leaked information about national security programs designed to combat the terrorists – and thus destroyed them. They held up funding for American soldiers on the battlefield, attempted to cut off all funding, and when that failed, tried to tie funding to a timeline that would ensure America’s defeat. They openly accused uniformed officers like General David Petraeus of lying about conditions on the ground and hoped against hope that “this war is lost, and the surge is not accomplishing anything.”

Dissent is legitimate in wartime, but the Democratic Party’s opposition to this war went far beyond dissent into unprecedented territory. Fortunately, the Bush administration was able to retrieve its own mistakes and its domestic opponents to win a war that Democrats said was unwinnable and (despite their own authorization) shouldn’t have been fought in the first place. But it was no thanks to the Party that now occupies the White House that this American war was won.


David Horowitz is the founder of The David Horowitz Freedom Center and author of the new book, One Party Classroom. Ben Johnson is editor of www.frontpagemag.com and co-author of Party of Defeat.
Josie06 Josie06
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14 Responses Mar 19, 2009

Josie,<br />
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If the shoe were on the other foot and *our* country was invaded, don't you think that *we* would be fighting them here and attacking them still on our soil? I'd be the biggest killer of insurgents in the country if they came to my neighborhood! The only difference is we're the insurgents on their sand. We have killed a reported >100k of their man, women and children in what we like to call "Collateral Damage." I'm sure there are some Iraqi's who are glad we're there but I'm sure at the same time, there's more that hate us being there, hate what we've done to their country and hate what we've done to over 100k of their fellow countrymen. I already know you're going to construe this missive as bad mouthing the troops but as I said before, they're following orders. <br />
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I find it really offensive when 9-11 is invoked as a reason for our invasion of Iraq, a sovereign nation. Iraq had N-O-T-H-I-N-G to do with 9-11. It's been proven time and time again. Again, I know what I say will not sway your opinion but thank you for letting me state my thoughts on this too.

VendettA12 ... personally i believe you are wrong. Though go right ahead and keep talking. Evidently you like to hear your opinion repeated ... often<br />
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i have listened to you on this and other threads and you have not changed my mind or my opinion.<br />
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The war is over. The police action, if that, as LilAnnie said is ongoing. And our troops are attacked every day, still.<br />
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We declare war on a 'slogan'. Guess that what was done on 9-11. Radical Muslims declared war on their slogan and killed 3,000 some civilians. <br />
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i don't see merit in your words here. None what so ever. <br />
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We will disagree on this for ever most likely.<br />
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i will be glad when all our troops are home, back to bases in the US. Provided we have space for all of them with the closings. However it may well be another draw-down.<br />
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i do hope they get a parade ... instead of being forgotten.

I think of our Iraqi engagement now as a police action. Really, we're only there to "keep the peace". For me, the only "victory" is getting out with the least amount of blood shed possible. Now, I had no idea what the neo/cons had in mind when they got us into this mess. I'm sure they had some grand geopolitical scheme. We are approaching Iran diplomatically. They are the KEY pla<x>yers in the region. And probably the reason we're there in the first place. As I said, let Iran take an interest in the security of their neighbor and let's vamoose! Its not our oil. Its not our business. In my not so humble right now opinion.

You call it Bullsh1t when I say there is no war. Tell me: Who did we declare war on? Was there a declaration of war that I missed? Oh, that's right... it's a "War on Terror"... I forgot that we have become a country that declares war with slogans, right along with the "War on drugs" and the "War on Poverty" etc.<br />
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If our soldiers aren't at war, then what are they? We invaded PRE-EMPTIVELY. Iraq didn't attack us, we invaded them. Or wait, you don't still think Iraq and Saddam had something to do with 911? My god I hope not. That takes some powerful kool-aid to believe that. <br />
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This sort of pre-emptive attack is considered illegal by the rest of the world. But what do they know, right? <br />
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Don't you get it? Who do you think we're fighting in Iraq? Al-Qaida? Terrorists? lol. They make up a very small minority of the people we're fighting. 15% would be generous. <br />
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We're fighting Iraqis. Call them "Insurgents" if you want, but why don't you try to look at it from their point of view? Their country was invaded by a foreign nation and the country was plunged into chaos. Why do you think that 60% of Iraqis feel it's justified to attack US soldiers?

There is no occupation ... that is B*LL SH*T of the highest order.<br />
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i am for bringing the troops home ... in an orderly fashion!<br />
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Not an all out retreat that the Lib/Dems want.<br />
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Lib/Dems of this country, the United States of America, have been crying for more than a year the war is lost ... even when our troops were winning with the surge.<br />
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Lets stop the B*LL SH*T!<br />
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Bring them home yes. Honorably. Not in a route. Then when they get here don't claim victory yourself. That is the Lib/Dem way.<br />
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i know, i experienced it with Viet Nam. <br />
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i'm pissed at the B*LL SH*T. And i have a right to be.<br />
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Calling our soldiers occupiers and paid killers is an age old Lib/Dem strategy. If they don't get their way they scream and yell and call everybody name.<br />
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Stop the B*LL SH*T. Act like an adult.<br />
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That's my 2 cents, from one very p*ssed off Vet!

Fine, declare victory if you want, if that's what it will take for you to admit that we need to leave. <br />
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"the war's going badly, we can't just leave!"<br />
"the war's going great! - we can't just leave!" <br />
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If we can't leave when we're losing and we can't leave when we've "won"... when can we leave? <br />
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The goalposts have been moved so often when it comes to Iraq that most people don't even realize why we invaded in the first place. <br />
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The troops have done everything that is possible militarily. We have succeeded in toppling the regime of a horrible person and plunging the country into a chaotic civil war in the resulting power vacuum. We have given Iran an unbelievable present by removing Saddam. Now our soldiers are caught in the middle of a civil war between Shia and Sunni forces, and that's significant because "W" didn't even know what a Sunni or Shia was before invading. <br />
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It's pathetic for the people responsible for this mess to hide behind their patriotism and the troops. It won't work. <br />
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The best way to support the troops is to end this occupation (there is no war!).

Maybe we should bring our brave soldiers home and we should use the money to build OUR schools, OUR crumbling infrastructure and whatever else needs fixing around here to include our government. <br />
www.networkforgood.org/TOPICS/INTERNATIONAL/IRAQ/troops.aspx<br />
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thinkprogress.org/2009/02/27/lejuene-soldiers-obama-iraq/ <br />
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No one has denied the GOOD things our troops have done in Iraq and around the world. The thing is, they're victims of failed policy of PNAC and the Bush Administration. We didn't go to Iraq to fight Al Qaeda, we went for oil and "After all, this is the man who tried to kill my daddy." The day "W" said that, he lost every ounce of support and respect I could muster for him in the first place. What's the first thing they did after the Shock and Awe? Did they protect historic things, art, people? No they protected the frigging pipelines. Their oil will pay for everything! That's what we were told. What a joke. So, as our troops continue to patrol Iraq putting their lives on the line and yes, doing wonderful things in the name of our country, the reason they're there is what gets me. Now, Afghanistan...........Can you say PIPELINE? That's why we're there too. We have to get that pipeline to the Caspian Sea! Those wonderful troops are there chasing after the dream of bin Laden. They are dodging the bullets and artillery from crazy religiofanatics all because of that failed policy! Anyway, I know we don't agree on the fundamentals. I most certainly do agree that our troops are doing a great job keeping us safe. I just think they need to come home and fix our country. <br />
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I also thank you and Mitch for your service. I was a child during that war. I remember watching the news about how you were all treated. I always had respect for our people in uniform, it's what made me be compelled to join when I was able to. And I never said "paid killers.' I recognize that I am a trained killer. I could if I had to in a nanosecond but that doesn't change the fact that we are at war based on lies and failed policy. Thank you for letting me say my piece! Jo

As some here have show we never lift up or soldiers and give them praise for their good works.<br />
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It's like it was 50 years ago. Now they are 'paid killers', then they were 'baby killers'.<br />
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That's not support ... in any way, shape or form.

Jojo ... giver the site for the published articles of support. You cite the shadow government and military-industrial complex. That is not showing the good the troops do daily around the globe.<br />
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Give the sites for the recognition of building schools, bringing the electric grid back on line and expanding it, for the hospitals .... cite them.<br />
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Cite the Congressional Record where Dems have said the good our soldiers do. <br />
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Much of the liberal talk in the press and in Congress (by Reid, Pelosi, Biden and all and yes even RINOS) is "the war is lost!" No pat on the back, no acknowledgment for the GOOD that they do.<br />
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And i do thank you and your husband for his service. And all in your families that have served.<br />
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i too am a veteran and i know what it is like to be spat on by college students back when the Viet Nam war was still the war of the day. i lived through it as a young soldier, now i'm an old retired one.

I don't know of anyone who DOES NOT support our troops. As an Army veteran married to an Army veteran with a family of veterans (Including my 94 y/o father in law how fought in WWII and the Korean War and my father who fought in the Korean War) We're all democrats. We all served our country and I want to say that living so close to Fort Benning, I can tell you there is no other community who supports the troops and has such a big sense of nationalism then Columbus, Ga and my county.<br />
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The troops are not to be faulted in the blunder called the Iraq war. They do what they signed up to do and they do it as no other military in the world can, with such professionalism and dedication to our country.<br />
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What Iraq HAS become is a shadow government in the Middle East and a boon for the Military Industrial Complex.<br />
here's a great article for some food for thought:<br />
http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2007/03/spyagency200703<br />
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I can cite the 'liberal' articles all day long to counter your 'conservative' articles. They're there. Big deal! I think LilAnnie has it right. We need to stop waging war on our own countrymen. We just differ in ideologies, not in the idea that one is more patriotic. It's all about how we go about it. Yesterday is gone and tomorrow is another day.

Josie, for the record, my husband is retired Army. He votes Democratic. My Dad and Uncles were in Korea with the Marines, they are all very involved with the Marine Corp League in our town. My Dad is also a union official and extremely liberal. He loves his country. He supports the troops. So does my husband so do I, so do all liberals. Now stop saying we don't!

You obviously have an agenda. You and many other conservatives need to think liberals are your enemy. God help us.

LilAnnie, i wish you Liberal would acknowledge the good things our soldiers do around the globe.<br><br />
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But that's not to be. It's all "the war is lost!" Liberals have declared war on the military ... since Viet Nam.

I wish to God you Conservatives would tone down your "liberals and the government are the enemy" rhetoric! Please! Did you learn nothing from the Oklahoma bombings? Limbaugh and Glen Beck and Hannity and Horowitz et al are going to whip up some Timothy McVie type nightmare. Its politics, for heaven's sake! We all love our country. Let's take our cue from the Brits. They pass the reigns of English goverment back and forth between labor and tories and never a bombing or impeachment occurs. Please, stop declaring war on your own countrymen!