Teach Children to Love Not Hate: Say No to Religion

The more I listen to people speak about their religion, the more I am convinced that it is nothing more than a brainwashing method to keep people under the control of an elite few. Some of these religions are happy to have followers join and leave it at that, others are so bent in their ways that they have no issues in destroying families and lives to gain a single new member (Mormons are a perfect example).



So far only a very few people who actively belong to a religous order have surprised me and displayed a more global view of their ideas, especially in that they have never even tried to sell it to anyone else. The one I was most surprised with was a "Jedi Knight", it took me months of speaking with him before he would even accept to tell me the general ideas of what he believed. Never in all of our talks did he tried to convince me or sanction me in any way. It is unfortunate that not everyone believes as he does in regards to imposing their views on others, brainwashing many into believing things that make little to no sense.



Of course children are the most vulnerable to this brainwashing as they cannot defend themselves in any way against the BS that they are being exposed to and spoon fed on a daily basis.

This is what I tell my adult children. Other people have called it a religious "there is no true Irishman" (I don't know what that is myself). Here goes. God gave Satan this planet to rule for a time. Satan chose the chaotic pen*s worship religion for his own. He believes in disorganization, so he infiltrated all the other religions. A Catholic priest that molests little boys is a pen*s worshipper, not a true Catholic. A Muslim suicide bomber who kills himself and others for 72 virgins is a pen*s worshipper. There are no Mormon polygamists, only pen*s worshipping polygamists. Just because someone claims to belong to a certain religion does not mean they are not lying to themselves as well as others. If someone offends me, I just assume they are a pen*s worshipper. Oh, and the Jews didn't kill Jesus, the sins of all of us who haven't renounced the pen*s worship religion killed Jesus.

My mom's catholic and she tells me I'm posessed by Satan...



I don't like Catholicism either... Can't wait until I'm an adult so that I can officially lose my religion

Get behind me Satan you are nothing but a stumbling block to me.

I believe I said many people have witnessed this! And dear troubleshooter I will not waste any more of your time. To be honest with you, you dont even have to read or respond to my testimony! Now do you? I am sorry I do not have to prove anything to you trouble............ As a matter of fact keep believing what you believe I really could care less. I put my testimony on here and it bothers you? HMMMM? Do me a favor next time you see that I wrote something just look over it if you dont mind. ; )

One other thing I would like to add I have witnessed supernatural powers come from my sons body when the demon was in him! Would that be called mental illness too? I know me and my son are not the only ones that has went through this and why it is kept hush hush is beyond me.PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW THESE THINGS HAPPEN AND ARE FOR REAL! What would I gain by making this up? Why would anyone lie about this? It seems as though teach your children to love and not hate was on the title. Seems as though some people want to attack me for giving my testimony? Why is that? You dont want to hear the truth? Thats fine! Just say so!

The Dr asked me why my son was there because the staff witnessed the possession /demon. And at the mental hospital they treat mental disorders. So there is no drug that can treat my son. You take drugs for mental disorders and medical problems. I admit a lot of people that has witnessed this possession, (I would say 25 professional and unprofessional people have witnessed these occurances) said that the mental hosptial would say my son has multiple personality disorder. but I was at the facitlity when the demon showed hisself, and tried to attack the staff. Really this is not a laughing matter . If I heard someone going through struggles family or not it would sadden me

there seems to be a rather serious dearth of documentation of such occurrences in scientific journals. Now just WHY do you suppose that is?



Probably because people who believe in science, evolution etc. Dont want to believe there is a God! For what ever reason? I dont have a clue! Like I said I was just giving my testimony, dont mean to ruffle any feathers! Obviously I have! LOL! Just asking for a scientific explanation. If someone can give me one. It doesnt seem that you have one either!

you seem to think me and my son are mentally ill? Well I am very sorry but he was at a mental hospital and the staff witnessed the possession, the Dr of that facility called me that night and asked me why my son was there that it was not a medical or mental issue! I have witnessed schiz. and multiple personality disorders as being a partial possessions by demons. And let me ask you something years ago people thought that the world was flat and called the ones that said the earth was round crazy! Which is it? I think that the crazy people were right it is round! I dont mean to offend any one here I am just giving my testimony to what I have witnessed and as for scientist I am sorry I watched some guy in a wheel chair that was also a scientist speak of evolution and I had to chuckle cause the hour program that was on T.V. he made a fool of himself to people that have expierenced the dark entities the whole thing was a crock! A waste of my time listening to his theory. I know the bible speaks of demons! And I have witnessed many! I had a professor from TCU come to my house along with TAPS (ghost hunters) and do his paperwork trying to come up with a explaination but he never got back with me. Imagine that? Is it because he had no scientific explanation for the supernatural things that was happening? Well the bible speaks of supernatural such as parting of the Red Sea! Demons, etc. I am just wondering how can you explain demons without the bible?

Son possessed by a demon???



I'm thinking he's mentally ill and worried that your beliefs are preventing him from getting treatment...also that he may not be the only MI one in the family...

I was raised catholic but I cant be catholic, even one of the members of the catholic church told me that his mother used to do a ritual that was witfchcraft. I never really understood the catholic religion. But the reason I am answering your story is because you say you are atheist? I can prove to you that there is a God and that there is JESUS! In the bible it speaks of demons, and I know there to be such a thing as demons. for the last 5 years I have had demonic activity at my house but the last 6 months my son has been possessed by a demon. I dont expect you to believe this only because I have noticed that the only ones who believe in demons are christians. I cant save the world by my testimony and more than likely you wont have to worry about demons because satan has closed your eyes, ears and heart to religion . I hope you look more into relgion before it is to late. xo

it would be an honor

It's that 7 degree kinda thing. I live in Gilroy just south of San Jose but my sister in law lives in San Juaquine and well that puts my *** square in Fresno very often

Neighbor!!!!!

though not the point of the story I must ask, are you guys setteling in Norcal or socal?

You are so right.

Also I have to admire your patience for putting up with a partner (?) with those kind of 'insights'.

I agree, children will understand that it all just doesn't add up. My daughter, when she was also eight, I think, came to the conclusion that the biblical stories they were telling in school, are no different from the fairy tales she's outgrown.

I mean, Rumpel-bloody-stiltskin holds more credibility than the old testament.

Don't go in against your partner's (?) opinions. All you need to do, like I think you're already doing, is stimulate independent thinking, and the rest is bound to come by itself.

Strength to you.

Two beliefs on a pillow hold the devil in between, they say in my country. Good luck.

AMEN! Just keeding! Well said, I agree totally. When I become a parent, I want to be just like you!

It is great that you are teaching your child about the scientific aspect of the world. That is very important. Not only will this eventually help them grow in their beliefs or non beliefs if helps them to think critically. However, have you ever thought that by pushing your atheism on him you are not allowing him to think critically?



I am sure that his father has the same feelings about the way you are trying to teach you son that there is no God. I know you son is only 6 and still has a way to go but at least give him a fighting chance.



Should he have watched the Passion? Absolutely NOT! It is a movie that is hard to take even by adults.



All I am saying is that if you are going to teach your son to think critically you have to present both sides.

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Wow. I agree wholly that religion taught to children also is morally wrong. I'm an atheist as well. Religion is fear and propaganda. We should all raise our children to be open minded logical people. Give them tools to think critically and make informed decisions. I would argue the only way for the human race to flourish is to maintain progress. Close minded ideologies only breed hate. Atheism has many beautiful aspects. While evolution is not a belief but fact, it is also the only reasonable best proven way of explaining existence. Read darwin and dawkins. Amazingly informative and they both teach beautiful ways for us all to take pride in, and have thankfulness for life. Be open. Be critical. Also be willing to accept fact, even if it contradicts what you think. How many Nobel prize winners believed in god. I believe about thirteen of over 700.

The whole point of christian religion is LOVE and not hate.. they talk about love and demonstrate hate towards anyone who dont agree = Hippocrates... The Passion of the christ was a crappy christian movie, it had no teachings, no reason, no purpose... it was Crap... BUt overall i agree with you

What`s wrong with us heathens ? We were here 1st weren`t we.

Hedge, you say in your comment that you fault scientists because they admit to not knowing but then claim that they purport to know everyhting. You say because they hold out hope of one day understanding a thing it makes them arrogant. You then go on to tell us of the contact you have made with the gods or spirits or whatever invisible entitys are calling themselves these days. Would you be willing to offer a little proof, or is that too scientific? I would also like to comment if I might on the idea that shamans possessed a knowledge of extra dimensions, you say they were aware of them but just called them by different names.

If they called them by different names how do you know they were speaking of dimensions? Did they teach of parallel existance, did they offer up the math or was it more like they said when you die you go to happy hunting ground?

Every religion and ancient philosophy has claims of knowledge beyond them. It was said the Myans had a perfect caleneder of Venus, That the Hindus spoke with fluency about atomic structure, the Aztec supposidly knew advanced medical treatment. Yet when it comes down to it, its always some guy with a television degree in archeology, medicine and astronomy who makes these claims.

I like so many others in our little atheist world, ask only one thing of the "spiritual" minded, prove it. Have your god tell you my fathers middle name, open the spirit world and divine a cure for AIDS fix my god damned parking tickets, something besides "I get warm and fuzzy while chanting in a sweat lodge.

If I might add, you said that by following the teachings you deem as positive you connect with the "higher power"

But the same teachings were taught by Shakespear, Twain, Locke, Frost and the list goes on, you dont claim to come into contact with them, do you?

As you said, the bible is a compilation of books written by iron age sheep herders, I dont really understand where the divine connection comes in.

Just so long as you look at what I was saying once again:)

I don't think you fully understood my frame of reference Troubleshooter,

Although I do believe the Bible is a wonderful tool, and has reminiscence of what God truly wants to let the world know, I think you are right.... A lot of it is flawed. It was written by man, and therefore has to have some imperfections. Must I reiterate the fact that I find God through music, compassion, nature and people? What I mean to say is that.... I believe the Bible has a lot of truth in it. That being said, I use it as a tool to live harmoniously with others and how can one evoke a sense of Enlightened Self Interest without any standard to live by? You see.... here's how I believe:

"If a soldier demands that you carry his gear for a mile, carry it for two."

"Give to those who ask, and don't turn away from those who want to borrow."

"Don't store up treasures here on earth"

"You cannot serve both God and money"

"Do not judge others, and you will not be judged"

"But the fruits of the spirit are love, joy, peace, patience, goodness, kindness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control."



Now, you may not agree with any or all of these... But I feel like through verses such as this one, my life is being guided by this higher power. It's just about bringing other people up, and serving whole heartedly with love for others. That's what I believe, and that's the message I'm trying to send by my life, and if that's a problem, then that's ok:) because.... I can't seem to think of what's wrong with it! Correct me if I'm wrong though...

As I am young, and most likely have not had the seasoned experiences as many of you have, I may not have the ground to stand on to support my view. I am not as much a Christian, but a Christ follower. You see... I believe in God, but I don't believe that he is some caucasian, overly hairy, and frighteningly two faced man, I am more on the grounds that God is a higher power that has a plan for me in life. And I have no physical proof for that, but in the same way that I can't see the wind, I feel it. Now, please don't write me off just yet as another idealistic loon. I believe that the power of love for one's neighbor and the general ideas behind service and giving to others in kindness and forgiveness are strongly and wholly everything that my religion is about. It may be insane... But I find God through music, compassion, nature, and people. And I know that through these things I can just feel a higher power.



I don't write off atheists, because I do understand there is a lot of truth in science and that contemplating some man in a robe up in the sky above me simply seems MAD. In the same way I don't write off Buddhists, because I know that there is strength in simplicity and oneness with nature, or generally.... Anyone else. I can see truth in most every religion, or lack there of religious thought, but for me it exists through this spirituality that I have with this higher being, and that everyone needs to know about this love, and compassion that God may very well have! Based on what I've seen throughout the writings in this post, I'm interested to see how that would even classify me......... :)



With the utmost respect, I hope that my words don't cause any turmoil!

I've read Solzhenitsyn. You're the one being selective. The Politburo sought to undermine the churches because they formed a cohesive organisation that could oppose the state. reading Nikita Krushevs's analysis of the Stalin years reveals that the elimination of the enemies of the state was not because they were religious per se but because it made cohesive units of possible resistance visible.



Similarly, all the titles attributable to the former army regiments of the Tsarist regimes, such as the guards or Hussars were abolished in 1920. However, if you read the account of the defence of Leningrad you will see that the Guards regiments plus their old regimental insignia were reinstated. The role of the Patriarch was also acknowledged by the Russian regime in the early 80s. The Russian Communist state was simply a pragmatic creation that would use, abuse and crush anything or anyone that got in its way. seeking christian martyrdom in the soviets requires a lot more earth moving than your arguments.

You obviously have not read Russian literature. Try Solzhenitsyn. You might learn something about how selective the communists were. Or try something like the aquariums of Pyong Yang for the similar situation in North Korea.

Well if we're going to sling numbers around, the Nazis slaughtered many many millions and the basis of their programme was religion. But you miss the point the driving force for Russia's extermination programmes was nothing to do with religion or atheism. It was necessary to subjugate the middle classes and the Kulaks. The point is organized religion has provided the perfect backdrop to many atrocities and they continue, form the islamofascists and their contempt for women, catholic dogma denying rights to African women and zealots in the US confusing foreign policy with evangelism.