I Can Understand Why

A couple years ago, I had to have testosterone shots to stop my monthlies for six months. I only wanted one thing too and it wasn't pizza.

It gave me a little bit of an idea what it must feel like to be a man.

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24 Responses Mar 14, 2009

You really cant argue with statistics!!<br />
I agree that women want just as much sex as men, but for different reasons!<br />
Men want sex all of the time, because (shock...) they really love and need sex!!<br />
Women want sex, to get a man to ask them to marry him.... i.e.....commitment..<br />
Once the commitment is established, they want sex for children (to be fair men too!).<br />
At least 80% of the sex after children, is just maintenance sex for most(not all) women.<br />
Sorry ladies, you can argue all you want, but the numbers don't lie!<br />
Kind of makes it clear, why men don't want to settle down!

I found these postings very interesting indeed. I enjoyed the intelligent and informative dialogue. While I am very feminine, I always felt I must have more testosterone that other women or something. For example, I have always related to men more than women, have excelled at wargames, have been very assertive for the last half my life, love sex way too much and too often (which is laughable given my current situation) have no menses, and had a surprising issue with hair that I resolved. I will have to look into this hormonal thing.

Dear SoulApocrypha, I am glad you at least know about the bell curve. <br />
I am at the far "bad guy" end, lower 2%, a diagnosed sociopath male. <br />
Even still, I have devoted much of my life to protecting and removing men who abuse and rape women. <br />
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Of course, I did this because I like hunting rapist, but many women feel I am a hero. My wife loves me and I am a great father, all in spite of being a “dangerous” sociopath male. I am a bad guy but I like and respect most women. Yes I like sex, but only with a few, not all. <br />
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I suspect you would be safe from my lust. Ha! <br />
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xiaomei, if you had those testosterone shots and I was a bit younger...!!! However, if I felt you were not interested in me then you would have have nothing to fear from me because I do feel you are my friend and my own rule is to never harm a friend. <br />
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I like you a lot xiaomei and all I will ever know about you is your text, your words, your mind.<br />
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AndrewPenney, I miss you as a friend and pray we can be friends again...DD

Dear SoulApocrypha, I am glad you at least know about the bell curve. <br />
I am at the far "bad guy" end, lower 2%, a diagnosed sociopath male. <br />
Even still, I have devoted much of my life to protecting and removing men who abuse and rape women. <br />
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Of course, I did this because I like hunting rapist, but many women feel I am a hero. My wife loves me and I am a great father, all in spite of being a “dangerous” sociopath male. I am a bad guy but I like and respect most women. Yes I like sex, but only with a few, not all. <br />
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I suspect you would be safe from my lust. Ha! <br />
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xiaomei, if you had those testosterone shots and I was a bit younger...!!! However, if I felt you were not interested in me then you would have have nothing to fear from me because I do feel you are my friend and my own rule is to never harm a friend. <br />
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I like you a lot xiaomei and all I will ever know about you is your text, your words, your mind.<br />
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AndrewPenney

Well i think Sex can be one factor .. not a whole purpose of men life or that men always expect from women.. there are lots of others that as human being we expect from each other..<br />
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respect , understanding, care, company in bad and hard times.. share experiences.. many more.. we should not stretch only that Sex on whole relation of men and women..<br />
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Regards

wow!!!!!! I did not know this was even available. Thanks so much for this insight.

xiaomei, I am amazed at how polite you are. <br />
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ROTFL.Thanks so very much for helping me smile and I hope your body chemistry gives you what you want in your life…DD

Your welcome,thanx for the answer.I'm seen and heard so many wild and new things that have come out and coming out I just had to ask,lol.

Did you have to take the shots in preping for your surgery?

dubiousone: feel free to post your perception of female sexual stereotypes and "words" for women, and feel free the deal with the EP blow back that would result in return. <br />
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I accept your critique regarding my colorful language, as I had no intention to offend. But as your own erudite response regarding the effects of hormones on behavior suggests - observed and measurable tendencies do not constitute a stereotype. <br />
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We would know very little about any species if we failed to observe and acknowledge their general characteristics. The tendency of some to inject the power of individuality and anecdote ("hey, I happen to know a nice guy!") above evidence is unfortunate. Spotting 1 or 2 white tigers in the wild doesn't mean that the jungle is rife with these anomalies. And knowing a couple of nice guys does not mean that men don't have higher sex drives that have clear physical, sociological, historical, and emotional consequences. Women can ignore this knowledge as they wade into the dating pool, but I do not believe this to be a wise course of action. <br />
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In fact, some folks are on to this hormone-infused conundrum and have created an EP experience called, "I Think Men Are Only Out For One Thing." Generalizations, indeed...

Yes, men think about sex all of the time, but so do women. We just doen't make it as obvious as men. I've worked closely with men for the past 4 yrs, and have learned a lot. They do have a sensitive side, they're just scared to show it.

nudeinva: Dude, calm down, no need to get personal. Your testosterone levels are getting the best of you.<br />
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I say to-MA-to, you say to-MAH-to. I say realistic, you say jaundiced. And where are you getting this "classify all women" stuff from? I have been speaking exclusively about males in my posts on this thread.<br />
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But worse than misunderstanding my posting, you misunderstand yourself. You suggest that biology (in this case hormones) shape physical characteristics and not personality or behavioral traits (!) - now this is an "extremely limited" world view that is thoroughly detached from accepted scientific knowledge. I would suggest a cursory Google or PubMed search on the effects of endogenous testosterone levels on sex drive, judgment, and aggression in men before you "rile against" anyone else. In fact, more recent investigations involve the sociological impact that hormones yield on decision making and risky behavior in men. <br />
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If you read my posts carefully, you will see that I allow for the fact that men may harbor prurient thoughts and have base desires, but may not necessarily act on them for a variety of reasons. Social morays, religious precepts, community values, and self interest act as checks and balances to the raw impulses that exist in all people (especially men). <br />
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In the face of the scientific evidence and two millennia of anecdotal evidence that men have lust issues (e.g., wayward priests, prostitution, mistresses, ***** clubs, polygamy, a 97 billion dollar male-dominated **** industry), you will still yield no ground. But I have an open mind. Really. Despite my tongue-in-cheek comments regarding the animal nature of men, I would be remiss to not acknowledge that most physiological phenomena follows a curvilinear pattern. So, this generally means that you will observe a meaningful relationship between testosterone and sex drive in 68.3% of men, and a very strong relationship in an additional 15.7% of men. This means that 84% of men could be have various degrees of the "bad boy" heightened sex drive. Whereas, 16% of men would be the "angel boys" (and even this 16% would have significant hormone-influenced sex drive differences from the average female).<br />
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So, for the sake of argument, let's say that 16% are the "good guys." Doesn't it make more sense to attempt to understand the tendencies of 84% of the dating pool? I mean, it's musical chairs...everyone is not going to get angel boy. And even angel boy might have a roaming eye from time to time. You can't tame an animal if you are unable or unwilling to understand it.

SoulApocrypha, I do really believe that you have a very jaundiced view of life. Biology or not. Biology gives you the physical characteristics and do not reflect the individual personalities of all men. I also rile against guys who classify all women in a single brushstroke as you have here. If this is your view of the world, then I feel sorry for you for it is extremely limited!

nudeinva: I know that this is hard to swallow, really, but certain aspects of biology are generalizable. Because genetic aberrations exist, it does not stand to reason that generalizable aspects or principles of biology do not exist. <br />
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Do not let your own operant conditioning mislead you. Give an untrained dog enough time in your house and he will chew the couch. Perhaps the dog wants to please you, so he refrains. Or perhaps too many smacks on the nose with the Sunday paper causes the dog to think twice. But, yes, that sweet, cuddly, well-behaved dog wants to eat your couch. All of it. When he twists and turns half asleep on the rug in front of the fire place, he dreams of eating it. Oh the things that lie behind those big brown eyes. After all, beneath the fuzzy exterior, and underneath the warm bondage of the red collar, is an unadulterated animal...

Holy Sh!t, SoulA... I'm a lesbian and I don't even think that about guys! Wowza!<br />
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And xiaomei, those must have been some shots to make you think about beer that much! LOL!!

Sorry, SoulApocrypha, they may be, but I know that I am not. You cannot generalize a whole gender in one statement, no matter how much you try. You could say that men have two balls, but there are exceptions to that rule. So your blanket accusation cannot and does not stick regardless of your own experiences!

nudeinva: I understand your response, and I hate to be the one to break it to you. But EP is all about being forthright, so I will reveal all...<br />
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Your dear old dad, your lifelong neighbor across the street, your spouse and best friend, and even the guys that host Sesame Street - are...all...wolves. Even when they don't "attack", they are thinking about it.

I have a good man...Even when he was not a good man....I knew that deep down he was a good man....It was just that she brought out the worst in him.......And now she is gone.....and he is a good man once more.....<br />
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I always knew that it was her

Robyn1972, sex is great, but love conquers all!

I had similar treatment and my boyfriend got tired of sex...<br />
I felt great!

Sorry SoulApocrypha, there are some nice guys out there!

Modern myths:<br />
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- Lose fat and eat whatever you want<br />
- Real estate is a "can't miss" investment<br />
- There are nice guys somewhere out there<br />
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Guys are like zoo animals. They can look cute from a distance - but like all wild animals - they are capable of exacting great harm even after long periods of tranquility. <br />
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You can put a wolf in a cubicle for 9 hours a day, dress him in L.L. Bean wear, and make him carry wallet size pics of the kids...but at the end of the day, guess what your living with..?

Well, when we are young we want pizza. When we get older we are split between the one thing we want, it alters between a round of golf and sushi. Yeah, that's the ticket!

See? It's not our fault XD