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This Is A Definite

Just last night, I was out with my girlfriend at a pretty popular restaurant here in town. We were celebrating her sister's birthday, so her entire immediate family were there, including her sister's husband and their 2 year old daughter.

We couldn't enjoy the meal because the baby was fussy, crying when she could play with the menu, waving her hands around and nearly spilling drinks, screaming at the top of her lungs because she wanted to play with the baby at the next table. It was embarrassing- all of the other nearby diners had their meal disrupted by the child's "gimme gimme gimme" behavior. All the child's mother would do was say "Please stop that, Baby?" in a hushed whisper. Needless to say, it did nothing.

I think that it's ridiculous that parents are so afraid to properly discipline their children these days. They are only hurting the children in the long run.

SpiritOfTheRabbit SpiritOfTheRabbit 31-35, F 4 Responses Jan 12, 2010

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Thanks for the POSITIVE comments, guys.

I love children, and I am not a monster, as the first poster implies. I just believe that more parents should learn to tell their children NO and teach them discipline. All of the parents out there who are allowing their children to do whatever they please are one day going to be sorry, for it is THOSE children who will grow up to experience a rude awakening when the entire world doesn't cater to their every whim like Mommy and Daddy did.

AMEN, Alana.

Sammy: First of all, your all caps type job is annoying.

Second of all, where did I ever say that a spanking was warranted in this case?

Third of all, I am around this particular mother and child quite often and I see exactly the LACK of GUIDANCE that the baby receives. A two year old should be able to sit at a table and not throw tantrums the ENTIRE TIME. If she can't, she should be left with a sitter. It was only 4 pm, the child had had a nap and had been fed prior to the outing. At the next table, there was a child around the same age who was perfectly behaved.

DO NOT post in here, acting like you are high and mighty because you pushed a baby out of your vagina, because it does NOT make you superior. I don't have children but I'd put money down on the fact that I have probably had more experience with children than most people who ARE PARENTS.

And what are you even TALKING about when you say "noise, lights, music"? We were at a family restaurant, no live bands or mosh pits or strobe lights. Please! If you can't read an experience without going into hysterics and spewing word vomit in all caps, maybe you should refrain from posting at all.

Oh, NO OFFENSE.

NOT SURE WHAT SHE IS SUPPOSE TO BE SAYING,NO TO. I AM A MOM AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT AT THAT AGE--THE BEHAVIOR IS TYPICAL OF A 2 YEAR OLD. IT DEPENDS ON THE CIRCUMSTANCES AS WELL. PEOOPLE THINK BECAUSE THEY ARE ABLE TO STAY UP LATE OR EAT OUT LATE,THE CHILD CAN--THEY CANNOT. KIDS AT THAT AGE SHOULD BE SLEEPING AT 8-9PM. MAYBE SHE WAS TIRED-IT COULD BE A ZILLION THIINGS-I WOULD HAVE TAKEN MY BABY INTO THE BATHROOM FOR A LITTLE CHAT--LIKE,WHAT'S WRONG HONEY, WHY ARE YOU ACTING THIS WAY--WE WILL HAVE TO GO HOME NOW IF YOU CANNOT BEHAVE--AND DO IT IF THEY CONTINUE TO ACT IN SUCH A WAYBUT--- SOMETIMES WITH NOISE AND LIGHTS,MUSIC--IT CAN BE OVERSTIMULATING FOR A CHILD AND THEY JUST CANNOT VERBALIZE HOW THAY ARE FEELING,THUS,WHINE,CRY,SOB ETC..I WOULD SUGGEST TO YOU THOU,THAT YOU DEFINITELY TAKE CHILD DEVELOPMENT.PARENTING COURSES AND DO ALOT OF BABYSITTING BEFORE YOU HAVE CHILDREN OR YOU MAY BE ABUSIVE. YOU HAVE TO HAVE PATIENCE WHEN DEALING WITH SUCH LITTLE ONES ,NO MATTER HOW LOUD,OBNOXIOUS--ETC...THERE IS ALWAYS A BETTER REASON--ESPECIALLY AT 2 YRS OF AGE--OTHER THAN THEY ARE A SPOILED BRAT AND SHOULD BE DISCIPLINED?WHAT DO YOU PROPOSE FOR PUNISHMENT ,ON A CHILD WHO HAS BEEN ON THIS EARTH FOR 24 MONTHS? I LOVE PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO ARE NOT PARENTS,BUT, INTERJECT HOW IT SHOULD BE DONE. IT TAKES A REAL WOMAN TO BE A MOTHER SWEETHEART ASK YOURS! IT IS THE HARDEST THING YOU COULD POSSIBLY EVER DO ON THIS EARTH--IF DONE RIGHT--BUT--IT IS THE MOST REWARDING GIFT YOU COULD EVER RECEIVE FROM GOD! IF YOU WOULD HAVE STATED AN OLDER CHILD, I MAY BE APT TO AGREE WITH YOU BUT,UMM,BEING A PARENT OF A TEENAGER---A 2 YEAR OLD? LEARN ABOUT THE PYSCHOLOGICAL AND DEVELOPMENTAL MIND OF A CHILD, BEFORE YOU ACCUSE THE PARENTS' OF NOT WANTING TO DISCIPLINE A "BABY"! IN THAT SAME SITUATION,ASK YOUR MOM,WHAT SHE WOULD HAVE DONE TO YOU? PLEASE,DO NOT BECOME A MOTHER UNTIL YOU ARE READY TO GET UP EVERY 2 HOURS FOR FEEDING,BE VOMITED ON ALL DAY-HAVE A BABY CRYING FOR 8-10 HOURS A DAY BECAUSE THEY ARE SICK OR TEETHING,ROCK THEM UNTIL YOUR ARMS FEEL LIKE THEY ARE ABOUT TO FALL OFF AND JUST WHEN IT SEEMS YOU ARE GOING TO GET A MOMENT TO BREATHE, YOUR 2 YEAR OLD WALKS UP TO YOU AND SAYS, MOMMY, I PEE'D ON THE FLOOR, IT WAS AN ACCIDENT,SORRY!IT TAKES ALOT OF LOVE AND ALOT OF PATIENCE TO GET THROUGH SOME DAYS-BUT,IT IS WORTH IT--THAT OLE' SAYING THAT SAYS, WHEN YOU BECOME A MOM, YOU'LL LOSE ALOT OF FRIENDS-YOUR SINGLE ONES--YOU REMIND ME OF THEM. SO, I THINK I CAN SPEAK FOR ALL MOMS HERE,WHEN I SAY THAT A 2 YEAR OLD IS A BABY AND TO BECOME PHYSICAL SHOULD NOT BE AN OPTION WITH ANY AGE! REASSURING LOVE,COMFORT,GUIDANCE AND SUPPORT--MAYBE A 2 MINUTE TIME OUT-A REST AWAY FROM ALL THE ACTIVITY(BATHROOM)---THAT IS WHAT A GOOD MOM WOULD DO. I SEE NOTHING WRONG WITH WHAT THAT MOM DID--ATLEAST,WE ARE NOT READING ABOUT HER KILLING HER CHILD AFTER CHILD HAS TEMPER TANTRUM IN RESTAURANT--WOULD THIS BE THE BETTER ALTERNATIVE?JUST MY THOUGHTS,NO OFFENSE--JUST GUIDANCE.