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I Was Shocked

Like millions of other animal lovers, I always thought that PETA worked ceaselessly for the good of animals. The first I heard otherwise was this morning, when I noticed an EP friend had joined this group.

 

I refer specifically to this link:

www.petakillsanimals.com.

The gist of it was that between July 2008 and December 2009, PETA put down 23,640 cats and dogs that needed adopting, 97 percent of the dogs and cats in its care last year, finding adoptive homes for just eight pets.

Shameful.

Mizz

mizzen123 mizzen123 46-50, M 14 Responses Mar 6, 2010

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My love, my post was an initial reaction to what I read. In retrospect, I would have researched a little more to gauge the true nature of what was written. I do think PETA continue to do great work, and anybody that act as advocates for animals and their rights are to be applauded.

If you read deeper into the site, mizz...you will see that it is just a front for outright slander....and yes, I am a PETA supporter.<br />
I hate euthansia as well... but sometimes you have to read between the lines. I was struck by the language claimed to be used in PETAs rebuttal letter....<br />
http://www.petakillsanimals.com/petarebuttal.cfm<br />
and then...an off site link:<br />
http://activistcash.com/organization_overview.cfm/o/21-people-for-the-ethical-treatment-of-animals<br />
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I love animals, but I also want the right information to circulate. Best wishes, compassionate soul.

There have been a number of closures of animal shelters due to the economic depression, another reason to despise the 'bankers'.

Thanks michelle and soozles<br />
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Yes, this problem needsto be tackled on so many levels. As you say, soozles, it is an indictment on the cruelty and ignorance of society that euthenasia is deemed necessary. There just has to be a change, and I love you all for all the work you do, and for your compassion :)

Well, I am just gobsmacked by those figures! Homes for just eight animals? That defies everything PETA claims to stand for. At 'my' shelter we euthanase. It's a horrid reflection on the selfishness, ignorance, and cruelty of a large section of society. Unfortunately we have no choice. Some animals are too agressive, some have chronic health problems that we just don't have the funds to long term care for (we recieve no funding - we run entirely on donations) and some - we act quickly, to stop the suffering. If we didn't euthanase, we would have to close our gates as we would have no room to take in any other animals. And life for a creature spent in a concrete pen - is a cruelty in itself. There is no way we can rehouse all our animals, but we manage to find homes for over 2,000 per year. If we had a tiny fraction of the funding of an organisation like Peta, we could increase that number immensely. To hear that over 23,000 animals are destroyed whilst homes are found for 8, no argument can justify those figures.

Rationality is in short supply sometimes mizz ... lol

Thank you all for your contributions. <br />
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I agree that we have to take responsibility, and in some senses my stance probably is unpractical, but it is my belief that something can be done, if the will is there (you can say that about so many things), animals need not die in any way because of our folly, our inhumanity to others. The will, sadly, is not there, animals are not deemed important enough. <br />
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(as an aside, it's nice to engage with cogent, rational human beings, instead of the drivel emanating from one man in my 'A message to you Rude ( Y) thread :)<br />
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Mizz

It is difficult mizz. Whereas I do sympathise with your idealistic stance, it's just not practical. I love my own animals to bits and totally abhor cruelty of any kind, but there must come a point where, as responsible human beings, we take responsibility for the quality of life of those animals in our care, both personally and at large. If euthanasia is carried out in a humane fashion I cannot see a better alternative where resources are limited. <br />
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There are those who would have animals given the same rights and treatment as human beings, which is another discusison for a different thread - but I personally feel that the appropriate use of euthanasia is a good solution.

blissy, it's sodifficult to know exactly what to do! Regarding the dog licence, since the licence was abandoned, there has been a year on year increase all acts of cruelty, so not having any type of licence certainly hasn't worked, either. I have always felt, and still feel, that a substantial licence would at least stop a few people buying a pet on a whim, only to abandon it, or worse. I do like the idea about financial help for neutering for those on low incomes. <br />
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I don't think there is one answer. It needs to be tackled on many fronts, not least education, which is the key to improving society in every way. I know I am an idealist, and I fully take on board what both yourself and squiggle say, but we have to work towards a position where abandonment, drowning (it's happened in my neck of the woods too:(, and cruelty is eradicated, and where there is no need tfor euthenasia, which (bury head in sand time, I still cannot agree with in a societal sense. Society should take care of all). We have to aim for this.<br />
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Mizz

I do think there is a point where euthanasia is justified. There is a limit to the number of people who will take on a rescue animal and there will always be animals that cannot be re-homed. Resources are not limitless to fund shelters and people to take on large numbers of animals are few and far between. <br />
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Spaying and neutering should be promoted of course but it does come down to attitudes of course. Here in the countryside in Ireland, puppies and kittens are drowned (or worse) all the time. It is common practice to kill half a litter of pups for example as a matter of course. There are schemes whereby those on low incomes can get free or almost free neutering for their animals and this type of thing should be expanded and promoted further. <br />
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I think the re-introduction of a dog licence and increasing it to £200 would cause a huge increase in abandoned animals. I'm not convinced it would encourage people to be more responsible at all, although I can see that in an ideal world it might work, but not in the world I live in!!

squiggle, thank you.<br />
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Spaying and neutering and education are the answers. As far as euthanisation is concerned, I may be an idealist, but I cannot condone it, though I do take your point about the life of misery and disease you describe. As a society, we should be aiming to take care of EVERY animal, no matter what the circumstances of their arrival. A bit like humans, I suppose. The planet probably is over populated, but that is no excuse for inhumanity.<br />
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Lastly, I will again say that I have always admired PETA's work and their tireless campaigning, which is why I felt disquiet about this.<br />
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We both care greatly for animals, and I admire your passion, squiggle:)<br />
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Mizz

I undesrtand and agree completely with your assertions about right wing agendas and also that owners need to spey and neuter. Too many animals are bought on a whim, for xmas, etc, to be abandoned cruelly or worse shortly after. I believe there should be lessons in animal husbandary, and rather than abandon the do licence, which we did some years ago, I would have increased it to £200 or so, so that you would only have those that really want to lok after a dog.<br />
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Having said all this, I still cannot equate the idea of caring for animals with destoing them. I realise that PETA are far from the only culprits.<br />
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Mizz

Laurie, oh yes, I wish that too!! All we can do is do our bit. I we all do that, we can have real success:)<br />
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Mizz

I support them all too, squiggle, but there mut be a way around this. Surely putting animals down is anathema to what PETA should be about. I am aware of the good work that they do, which is why I haven't joined the group, but I was still saddened by what I read.<br />
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Mizz