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I've always been grateful no one forced me to church or catechism classes when I was a child. I really had no interest in religion or prayer but am now rather fed up with having religion shoved down my throat. Separation of church and state was obliterated by Bush. He told us to going shopping after 9/11. It was infuriating to hear him make decisions for this country based on his religious faith. He ain't the pope.

I live in a town of less than 15,000 and there are now 24 churches. It is a waste of money building so many for so few. Nature has built the best church, stop destroying nature to build another house of worship. Why don't the faithful just pray wherever they're standing instead of a church layered in gold and stained glass. Prayer has never accomplished anything in a measurable way for anyone I've ever known.

qazrazl qazrazl
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18 Responses Feb 21, 2009

I'd love to see that, Whut! i'm still laughing at the vision of you coming out of the phone booth with a SR costume on!<br />
We need more superheros like you though! Maybe baby Whuttup will grow up to be a superhero too! :-)

I wear a size XL, but since we need it to be skin tight perhaps we should make it a L.

HaHa Qaz! You're the best! LOL

I love yous guys. Freakin' love ya.<br />
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We need to ask EP for a superhero cape gift, maybe the tights and "SR" pullover too.<br />
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And I think Palin has even pissed off those that voted for her, she's no threat except to wildlife in Alaska. THAT's the very sort of person who shouldn't be breeding. But that's another group's story, too.<br />
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And maybe EP could create 1 gift of 2 hacky-sacks in a pouch so I can gift my friends that 'rock with yer balls out.'

Whuttup for President 2012! We can run Sarah Palin out on a rail! I get to manage your campaign!<br />
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I am a prolific writer of letters to the editor. I just can't let stuff go without debunking the lies and half truths. I've received "fan calls" and even hateful letters to our home but I refuse to be intimidated. Nearly all of my letters are political. I have 4-5 friends who write too. We balance things out. And it's fun...........spanking them with words! LOL

auti- don't you remember we had a falling out over how I don't like wine? I think you nearly filed for an EP divorce from me. <br />
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But seeing as how you've all proved I might get at least a few votes beyond my own family I'll take it under consideration.

There's a bible belt in Ireland. It centres around a town called Ballymena in Northern Ireland. It also happens to be the centre of heroin addiction in Northern Ireland. I assume the smack heads are not saved.

Oh....W12, you couldn't read my local paper. It is really a bunch of nothing, but the "letters to the editor" are always full of scripture and folks pontificating about how all the problems with the world are because people aren't living for the Lord. I usually get a rash after reading them, but I'd never write in. I own a small, struggling business and I can't afford to alienate a single God-loving resident of this town. I don't pretend to be something I'm not, but I do keep quiet. <br />
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A local insurance agent always has scripture on his sign. It annoys me. Are you selling insurance, or are you selling Christianity? I'd never use that company for insurance, but the owner is a customer of mine and so I smile and keep my opinions to myself. It is a very tricky thing, finding a happy medium. <br />
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Of course I'd vote W12 for President, you haven't ever said a thing i don't agree with! Take some public speaking courses and get your *** ready.

I believe the saying is "I couldn't get elected dog-catcher"... but thanks for the nice comments anyway. They gave me a warm, fuzzy feeling inside. Or maybe I just need to cough again. <br />
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I've written only 2 letters to the editor but both of them did get printed. The first was to refute some silly woman that thought our founding fathers were Christian (wrong) and that they intended this to be a Christian nation (double whammy) As you can imagine, I couldn't let such ignorance go unanswered. <br />
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The second time I wrote one was because someone wrote to complain that our schools weren't teaching the "controversy" between intelligent design and the "theory" of evolution. Once again I had to jump into the phone booth and change into my SuperRational man outfit and save the day by educating everyone on what a scientific theory is, and how if people doubt the theory of evolution they should also abstain from getting a flu shot, since flu shots rely on predicting "evolving" flu strains and also rely on the germ "theory" of disease. <br />
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I admit it's fun to spank the local yokels and their ill-informed comments.

Shoot. I could never run for office. I'm too offensive to the Yokels here. Believe me, my political friends and I make them swoon at least once or twice a week when they actually print our letters to the editor! I might get about 8 votes or something like that and 5 would be from my family! LOL<br />
Thanks for the vote of confidence though! I am not a great public speaker either although I'm working on it.<br />
Reading all of Whuttup's comments make me think I'm talking to my husband. Too bad he's such an introvert though. he'd make the best politician with his wonderful ideas and brilliant mind! I was talking about you too, Whut!<br />
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Qaz, I think we'd all make a great team. Pres. Veep. Chief of Staff, etc. We could make Drcynic the Sec. of Health and Human Services and he can do all of the gynecological exams. I think he'd like that............. Persecute all the Fundies as they would do unto us!

W12- Duuuude, wait a few years into Obama's new Nation. Your views could override being an Atheist-godless-heathen. But JojoWazoo may have to be your running mate. lol And, geekboy, there's classes to become a better speaker while you make big changes at the local level. Be, I dunno, a 'Community Organizing' Athesist-godless-heathen! Thanks for saying I'm obscene.<br />
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Nuevo- crrrrrap! Sounds pretty obnoxious, living on the buckle as you do. Thanks for the comments. I agree, waste o' money.

Qaz- that's an obscenely nice thing for you to say. Thank you for being so obscene. <br />
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Unfortunately, the world is not ready for such an offensive atheist such as myself. I'd be assassinated at the local level lol. <br />
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Also, I can only communicate well by writing. If you knew me in person, you'd be shocked at how quiet I am, and I'm useless at public speaking :(

Thank you everyone for great comments.<br />
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W12- I think you would thrive should you get involved in local politics and start moving through the system so that by the time you're 47, you could run for president. I agree with your comments. Especially, legalizing/taxing pot use but also the industrial farming and use of the hemp plant. Seeds are very nutritious and the fibers are endlessly useful.<br />
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Jojo- Our 4 mile stretch of town accommodates 24 churches for just 15,000 people. Luckily, these ornate buildings aren't often granted the permit for signage like you mention. Those that have it are obnoxious about their messages. Reminds me of the Simpsons. PS- W is a total ******* moron in my book, reprehensible and worse, but that's in another group.<br />
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Betty- you're luckily safe from it. Waaay out of balance here.<br />
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Autimom- I know that area by Nashville. I was already uncomfortable driving south of Delaware. Yes, the duality is harsh, rich to poverty. The wealthy need to get holy so they don't feel guilty, but by all means will write a check for African orphans that never see an extra bag of rice for their donation. I'm for helping our own homeless and needy first.<br />
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RA- I think there's a huge difference between religious prayer to god to solve everything that's out of one's hands and meditation/centering within for one's own growth, peace and harmony. Everyone has different opinions on this. I find people's prayers are about forcing their will toward another person, welcome or not. The hateful, distrustful scowl is more what I'm used to from religious folk here. They are less likely to be altruistic and DO NOT project peace and serenity, but are selfish and judgmental. The new agers here who are more prone to meditate are the friendlier of the population. IMHO, over the course of my 15 years here.

RA, it's obvious that one can project their mood out and that people will respond accordingly... but I'm not at all convinced that goes deeper than the superficial level of our sight reading other people's postures. So I would half agree with you, since I wouldn't go as far as to say that everything down to the quantum level affects people's moods. <br />
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Over on my story in this group, we had a good discussion about how prayer probably benefits the person praying, but that it doesn't do anything else to alter the physical reality we live in.

I agree that praying and worshipping in churches and temples and things like that are a waste of time and resources that could be used for true peace and understanding. <br />
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That said, I do believe prayer can be useful as well as meditation. I believe in the quantum field in which everything affect everything else. I believe projecting feelings of hope and peace out to other people is a form of prayer and I believe it does make a difference. I also believe that walking around with a scowl on your face and feeling hateful or distrustful makes affects those around you in that way. Conversely going around with a smile on your face and feeling positive feelings helps the people around you relax. Just try it, try projecting positivity. Try feeling it truly in all that you do and you will be a more content person for it.

Not too long ago I took the scenic route (instead of I-65) on a drive from my little town to Nashville, its about a 75 minute drive. As I got closer to the suburbs of Nashville , a very well off area called Brentwood (where several country music stars and such call home) I was floored by all of the churches. Not modest little white wood buildings with a nice cross on top. Huge, lavish buildings, one after another. I counted 22 in a 15 miles stretch. What a complete waste of money. Honestly, it disgusted me. Just a few miles more into the city are areas of incredible poverty.

Your 7th Disciple says "AMEN to that" brother! LOL<br />
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Qaz, you said "and he ain't the Pope either" and I say he ain't so mucking fuch either! Who the hell is he? Oh we won't get into that. I agree with you about the abundance of churches.<br />
Remember, I live in the bible belt in a rural community and there are so many churches with their stoooopid signs and slogans outside I could just get out of my car across the street on Sunday morning and howl like a wolf! It's one thing to have the church, it's another to have those ****** up sayings on lighted letter boards outside! it disgusts me.

I can solve our economic crisis overnight. Legalize and tax marijuana, and tax churches, since they are just shills for conservative candidates anyway. They are tax exempt because they are supposed to not be involved in politics, but give me a break. There are mountains of evidence which show that they are basically RNC PACs. <br />
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Presto, no more financial crisis.