Eeew. Pot. -.-

I don't personally like pot, so I don't smoke it. I've tried it and I didn't like the way it made me feel.. I don't really like how it smells, either. So I don't do it. But almost everyone I know does, and I don't have a problem with that. To each his own. And I haven't found that a pot-smoker has any one particular personality---they are all different kinds of people. It's childish to say, "I don't like this, so I don't like anyone who does it."

yikes. I almost didn't post a comment because I don't want to stir up the drama that this has obviously caused.

However, first I want to say that everyone has a right to their opinion, and people's opinions should be respected...even those whose differ from our own. Secondly, I am a pot smoker...have been for over a decade and I am a mature, intelligent, responsible adult. People who smoke weed are stereotyped, especially on television, but that is not reality. Sure some are like that, but not all, or even most.

i'm straightedge :D ---------no pot, no alcohol











going to college next year :-o





let's see how long it lasts............

Glad you find it funny, 'cause I certainly don't.

ooooh everyone has something to say about pot!



When we're done here can we move onto abortion?

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This discussion isn't about making pot legal. Its about the fact that I think smoking it is disgusting. 0.0

if we get into the debate of legalizing it to lower the crime rate, it's a whole new ball park. there are pros AND cons to both positions. I remember, way back in the dark ages of the 70's, being a member of norml and going to the smoke-in. but there was an awful lot of research, legitimate, on both sides. and so many variables that must fall into place that, unfortunately, in these times are almost certainly not going to happen. maybe way back then , maybe some time in the future. but right now...just won't work. and then you get into the whole issue of hemp, which we must import from everywhere else, since it's in the forbidden cannibis family, so a major renewable resorce is out of reach...yeah... that's a whole 'nother ball park.



I actually give kudos to el for this.. she stated her opinion, backed it with her reasons and stood by it. but in the way of threads we have gotten a little of topic. (free thinkers). But in the end, we each have or reasons and opinions, and the means by which we arrived at them. as a parent I agree with the idea not around my children. but my children are now grown men, responsible for themselves. I can only hope the choices I made will aide them now.

When I was a teen, where I grew up, it was a day in court,$25 fine and 6 mos good behavior probation (for more than an ounce). Now....

futures are lost, colleges can turn down apps for a joint, or the allusion of it on a my space page, thousands of dollars in court costs, lawyers, fines. Loss of homes and cars. the stakes are incredibly high now. for little more than a joint.

crazy. so no...it doesn't come in my home.

I agree with Elwing on a lot of points, and I disagree on a few others.

I do think the laws need to be changed, and pot legalized. Not Because I smoke pot, I don't. I actually feel it is a disgusting substance. Just simply because it is used by a large percentage of the population. It's literally a costly battle to try and fight it. Until it is legal, I won't stand by it's use either. There is far too much that I could lose for a little bit of fun and relief. I think anyone who would weigh what they could lose by smoking it... and still choose to smoke pot. That just seems like a bad choice, and not a choice made by someone I want to be around. If it were LEGAL that opinion would change. I still would never let it into my house though, or around my two sons. It's too much like someone driving their car at 120 mph, and being sure they wont get caught or killed. (BTW, I'm guilty of doing just that)

As far as it being controlled, taxed and so forth by the government.. I don't think that would work. So long as there is a source that is cheaper. There will still be an illegal market. Same as people who go out of state to buy cigarettes where they are cheaper. I usually drive to a reservation when I can and buy my cigarettes, avoid paying all taxes together. Save $3.50 per pack.



To recap and put it simply. I look more at pot as being too much of a risk upon my family, job, home and life style to support it or anyone else who takes that risk.

The laws need to change, but until they do.. No way.

I'm not implying that pot smokers have nothing to lose. I'm implying that they don't care if they lose it. :D Because, if they *DID* care if they lost it, then they wouldn't put themselves in a position that could potentially make them lose that which is 'cared for' so 'greatly'.



You're right elwing. I didn't care about what I had to lose, because I believed that I had everything I needed. I have friends, a place to rest my head at night, food to eat, and clothes to wear. I also have the freedom of exploring ideas on the internet to my heart's content. These are things I value deeply in my life, but I'm not afraid of losing them. For the first time in my life, I have myself. I had god and thought that was enough, but no, I needed myself.



I think you're a great person, elwing, and I still think you're cool, even if you share a different opinion from me. I'm quitting pot, because I want to make a change in the world and if I'm going to jail, it will be because I wasn't afraid to use my voice. Hopefully, america will let me use that right in a nonviolent manner, but I'm afraid that freedom won't last long.



Like I said before, the government should be the ones making money off of pot, not criminal organizations. (then again, there are those who would call our government criminal. I only agree with that to a small extent).

i cant judge i smoke my share of pot awhile back,i happy to say i dont anymore and have for a long time .but everyone who knows people who do or have smoke knows theres a diffrance between a smoker and a stoner some people to it to be cool and some do it b/c there acustum to it much like a ciggarett habbit.alot of people iv know that smoked also picked up a habbit on influance such as people who were roll models grownign up like your parents who smoked but there is a line from smoke for personal resons in your own home and people who are BURT and smoke jsut because they need something to talk about with there friends

I was really just making a comparison of the issue. El is completely right about her opinion, because.... ta da...it's HER opinion. if she and others feel, think, believe that smoking marijuana is wrong more power to them. If they choose to avoid, as much as possible a person who smokes it, again, personal choice.

(a little aside..the pill that supposedly would replace marijuana in medical use is less effective than a placebo, so that's a non-issue).

how ever, i also think that anyone has the option of setting their own priorities; ie. my mother doesn't smoke, she absolutely dtests tobacco use of any kind; I on the other hand smoke. I do not smoke in her home or around her. respect.

Same goes for smoking weed, (personal opinion but I have less problem with that than excessive drinking, for many of the reasons El already listed), but I wouldn't allow someone to have it in or around my home or my children when they were young. I also did not allow alcohol around my home for many years. This was a personal coice on my part. for many personal reasons.

I just don't see the need to argue, or debate a personal opinion.

I asked a question, mainly to define for myself if it was an opinion focised on the legal issue as priomary. she answered that eloquently.

back to...personal choice. we all make them all the time.

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Three of my uncles are recovering alcoholics.



One uncle got so drunk one night that he threw a large dining table at my cousin and my aunt.



One of my uncles IS an alcoholic. If he is not at work, there is ALWAYS a beer in his hand.



About ten years ago, he got into a drunk driving accident... And hit a young mentally handicapped man on a bicycle, killing him. My uncle was under the 'legal limit', but that DOES NOT MAKE IT RIGHT.



Three highschool friends of mine were out driving 'round on gravel roads, smoking pot and having a grand ol' time... All high when the driver lost control of the car (because, of course, he was driving WAY too fast) and flipped it... All three were killed.



I drink now and again. Rarely ever to excess. Sure, I've gotten drunk in the past. Will I do it again? Probably.



I've smoked pot enough to know that I hate the way it tastes, smells, and the way it makes me feel.



People who do *anything* in excess so much that they fool themselves into believing they need it disgust me. Yes, this means that I disgust myself sometimes, because of my own addiction to the internet. But at least I can *admit* that I have a problem.

hmm. you are right in the states it is illegal. other countries it is not. But at one time alcohol was also illegal. again with legitimate reasons. It is now legal, under controlled circumstances (ie., no driving, public intoxication etc.) i'm curious as to your feelings on drinkers? I have unfortunately seen more drunks than stoners over my lifetime (possibly that legal issue). I find both...to excess... unacceptable. so...?

I'm not implying that pot smokers have nothing to lose. I'm implying that they don't care if they lose it. :D Because, if they *DID* care if they lost it, then they wouldn't put themselves in a position that could potentially make them lose that which is 'cared for' so 'greatly'.



I think we could be friends, Marji. I've said as much. I like most of what you, and others have to say. Everyone has their differences, and I appreciate and understand that. Do you? Can you respect me enough to take my opinion in stride, and not 'cast me out' of your circle of friends for it?



I guess I don't understand why we can't all just agree to disagree and leave it at that.

I don't have a problem with people smoking pot. I actually like the smell more than I like the smell of cigarettes. I have some friends who smoke pot and it doesn't bother me. They could smoke it right in front of me and I honestly wouldn't care.

Since when did it become 'being on a high horse' when you state your opinion?



At least I'm honest about it. I'm sorry if it ****** people off, but, I'm just as entitled to my opinion as you are yours. I'm in NO WAY sorry for having, and stating my opinion. I am, however, sorry that people felt the need to attack ME for my opinion, and sorry that this blew up like it did. I expected comments, but I did NOT expect to be attacked.



If you do not like my opinions, and the fact that I state them, then feel free to dislodge me from your circle. Sure, it'll probably upset me, but you don't really seem to give a flying **** anyway, and really, neither do I. Not in the long run. I don't want people around me who'll turn on me like this.



Yes. I'm emotional right now. Probably overly so. But I will not apologize for who I am or what I believe, based off of my own life experiences.

Never tried it.

Never tried it.

Hmm. Apparently its fanatical for me to NOT want to loose my son. Intrepid, if you knew anything about me, had actually read any of my blog entries and stories, you'd know exactly why I'm so fanatical about it.



My opinions on your parenting skills or lack thereof are just that. My opinions. The same as your opinions about your parenting skills and the things you choose to taint your body with are YOUR OPINIONS.



I am quite frankly appalled at how easily you all were on the offensive, how easily you stepped up to put me in my place, how easily you turned on me. Apparently, I do not have as many friends here as I originally thought. And it hurts.

"Anyone who smokes pot does NOT have an IQ of 147."



hmm... I have an IQ that lies between 144 and 148... I smoke pot... I'm getting a B.S. in physics and minor in chemistry... hmmm... my friends and I used to get high as **** and study physics the whole time... hmmm....



yeah... I can see what you mean by that

Now the question is...will Elwing delete sunstone's comment??? She deleted one of mine. What will she do??? This has nothing to do with the discussion nor did mine. This should be interesting...lol.

Elwing. I've been thinking about your story and all these posts, including mine, since I posted my comment yesterday. I wanted to make it clear that I am not invalidating or debating your feelings, you have every right to your feeling about pot, your opinions, you reactions to people who smoke it and actions toward people who smoke it. I think my knee jerk reaction was one that seemed to see your view as very closed minded and judgmental, however, my comment to your story was judgmental as well, after I really thought about it. I expressed what I felt I needed to, and I don't apologize for that. I do, however, apologize for seeming judgmental and intolerant of feelings. I'm sorry.

My views are NOT narrow just because they are different from yours, Weretree. :D As far as anal sex is concerned, there is NO chance that me and my fiance having anal sex can physically harm my child. There's a HUGE difference between that and smoking pot in my house.



Intrepid, I won't be blocking you any time soon. As I told Marji, I did not remove her from my circle... But somehow, she's no longer in my circle, which is screwed up. But, as she hasn't answered me, I assume she doesn't want me to re-add her to my circle. Its a pity, really, because she (as well as others here) have some very wonderful things to say. I have *not* mocked anyone's parenting skills... But I will say, that in my own opinion, if you smoke *anything* in the same house your child lives and sleeps in, you really shouldn't be surprised when people tell you you're a bad parent. Everyone has their vices, and even drinking a glass of wine before bed is pretty stupid, *in my opinion*. I don't need anything to help myself sleep at night. Maybe its because I don't have a guilty conscience. I'm *NOT* a perfect parent, but I'm damned sure not going to put my child in danger on purpose.



What I do not understand is why there's so much of an argument over me not wanting to smoke pot. Seriously? What *is* the big deal? Can I not make my own decisions? Can I not chose to do something that doesn't put me and my family at risk? I've already stated that you all are free (and you know you are) to smoke whatever you want, when you want. That's YOUR problem, your choice. I'm not here to 'enforce' or to upset anyone, but merely to state my views on this subject.



Do not expect me to be overjoyed at reading about your drugged endeavors, though. I still want you all as friends, I still want you in my circle. You're all intelligent people, and you've had wonderful things to say thusfar. What I really DON'T appreciate, though, is the fact that you all (well most of you) have made me feel like an outcast for my honest opinions, which are based off of my very own life experiences.



Shame on you. Shame on you all. You very nearly ruined EP for me tonight. I thought you were all my friends, and here you are, arguing with me over something so very petty. I'm not going to make any overdramatic statements about deleting my account. I'm not going to ***** and to moan. I'm just going to say that I am very dissapointed.

And the bus driver who was doing cocaine while driving children around probably thought she didn"t have a problem either and she was just "CHILLIN'"! That is where responsibility hits the road! She wrecked the bus hurting countless students in the process! Anyone who smokes pot does NOT have an IQ of 147. Those facts don't come out of thin air! Your IQ dropped the minute you picked up that habit by 10 points per year. Don't delude yourself any further quit while you still have brain cells!



HELLO people wake up out of your drug induced coma! The reason it is illegal is because it leads to much worse addictions like cocaine.

Thank you, CC. You made me tear up, there...

Weretree, if the object you're giving up on was to change my opinion... I'm sorry. I'm not going to be anyone but myself.



If any of you want to smoke pot on your own time, that's on you, not me. I really don't care if you do smoke it, to be honest. Just do not expect me to be happy when you mention it. We are all entitled to our own opinions. I will not apologize for my opinions, but I will apologize for upsetting anyone. That was not my intent.

O mai...I think I'll stay out of this one. Last time I commented on something like this I got an E-asskicking from it.

The goat comment was still in view as of 8/11/08 7:20PM. LMAO at the comment and idea that anyone can be a "responsible pot smoker"! First of all a responsible person would not invite illegal activity into their home. Secondly a responsible person would be aware of the risk they place on their own health and relationships with others by being in a state of impaired functioning. That is the most ludicrous oxymoron I have ever heard! There is no such thing as a "responsible pot smoker"!

Pot smokers have personalities that I can pinpoint. It is because smoking pot has caused so many of their brain cells to die off that they are too deteriorated to realize that nothing they say makes rational sense to anyone except them hence the personality defect #1. Things they think are amusing or interesting are the same things that a toddler enjoys#2. Their conformist nature led them to substance abuse and they never knew how to be their own person#3. That makes them very much like the Borg because they are all sharing the one brain cell they have left#4. They have this overwhelming belief that it makes them cool which gives them a deluded self confidence that is intolerable to experience#5. They simply do NOT realize that it literally takes 10 points off their IQ for every year they smoke it and if they only had 120 to start then after 5 years it is going to peak at around 70 which is nearing the classification of mentally challenged so they can start training for the special olympics any day now!#6!

I think George W. smoked too, but it may have been crack instead..