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God Is Not Found In Religious Teaching, But In Ourselves.

Anybody who follows a religious teaching is basing their faith on the belief on somebody else's knowledge... somebody other than themselves and thus by doing so they will never come to know God as is but only by how the bible teaches it...

Many Christians live by the bible and allows it to define themselves in who they are... as in the bible is my life, I am a Christian and this is who I am.

The bible tells us that God is a Spirit and so if God created us in his image then guess what? we are not made in the image of man but in the image of God which is the image of spirit and that is perfection.

Christians don't realize that the teaching are only there for us so that it may assist us to be more conscious and aware of who we are and who we are is "Spirit"... So we are here to live a spiritual life by just being ourselves which is the fully consciousness aware self.

Most Christians worship God by the intellectual understanding of the holy-bible rather than worshiping  spiritually... but see what people don't realize is that by worshiping God it is worshiping ourselves for we and God are Spirits that exist as one.

Even Jesus tells us in the bible that the Kingdom of Heaven exist within us.

All I can say is that God does exist but not in religion but within ourselves... When you come to know yourself as you are, then you will come to know all things as it is. This is the hardest to comprehend... but to know yourself you must not know yourself... deny yourself in order to accept yourself, to die in order to live, Die in the Ego and become reborn into the self and here is where you will find out who you truly are and will know the existence of all things in God and in Heaven.

PuzzleGuy713 PuzzleGuy713 26-30, M 12 Responses Feb 17, 2009

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This one is good. Its funny! If God made us in his image perhaps he is not perfect. Cause no body is physically perfect.

Hello there Tonyavicci!, I know exactly what you mean, I too had a hard time deciding whether to classify myself as a Christian or not... this is how I look at it,

The word "Christian" means follower of Christ... to follow "Christ" means to follow the Christ-Consciousness living in Love, ONENESS, and Unity with one another.

And there's the "Christian" of organized religion which condemns those who are not a follower of their orthodox teaching and therefore teaches to live in FEAR and in separation from one another...



3 years ago, after I got out from an organized religion Church called the "Church of Christ" I wasn't sure what to call myself then I ended up just saying that I was "Spiritual" who believes that truth can be found everywhere even from within... but most people didn't know how to look at it, they hear the word "Spiritual" they think of cult... so I decided to just call myself a "Christian" not Orthodox but a Universal one who can agree with teachings of others as long as they promote to live in Love, Oneness, and Unity through "Being".

I posted on your other post, but so glad I read this one too. Once again, I totally agree with you. In fact I have I hard time in deciding to classify myself as Christian or not. I mean, really to me it doesn't matter. But I do feel that I am close to Christ, and follow the Christ-conciousness. I have a problem with the Christian church in that most do not seem to really follow Christ's way of living. So I have a hard time when someone asks me if I'm a Christian. I consider myself a Christian in that I follow Christ, but not a Christian in that the "Christian" religion condemns non-believers to hell, and judges all other religions as non-worthy and blasphemy. I find teachings of great worth, and Christ-like, in all religions.

Ayleena,



I'm a "Christian" as in I believe in the Christ like Consciousness that represents Oneness. That's why I accept so many teachings of others. But I am not Orthodox Christian as in one who follows the way of the Church.



I guess in other words, I'm "Spiritual" =)

I'm very impressed, these follow my own views without considering myself Christian. I've often been agitated by certain views expressed by religion which has proved.....very constricted. Reading this gives me more faith in those who follow religion, that not all are blindly accepting the changes made to its original form to try and idealize truth.



However my question remains: If you understand that there is no one clear religion, that many help lead to the path of "spirit", then what has driven you to choose to be under the title of one interpretation? Are you "Christian" if you accept the teachings of many? Or are you simply a follower of God, the spirit, whichever form taken?

I posted this story a year ago. And since then I have realized a lot more than I did from that time.



For One, I realized that Yes, I REALLY AM a "CHRISTIAN" =)



- I realized that one can find God wherever there is spiritual truth... a lot of spiritual truth can be found in the Christian/Catholic Bible, it can also be found in the Jewish Torah, the Buddhist Darma, the Muslim Quran, heck even in Socrates and Confucius teaching!

But of course there are those who will say, "In no way you could possibly be a "Christian" for what you just described is complete heresy!!!!



The majority of Christians want to believe that spiritual truth can only be found in the bible and no other sources... for the bible is the ONLY SOURCE? The bible does have spiritual teaching, but it's teaching is there so that it may help us become spiritually matured. Once a person becomes spiritually matured they will have a thirst that will direct them towards spiritual truth, from within their heart thirsting for GOD...



When You have learned the spiritual teaching that allows you to become spiritually matured... directing you so that Your Heart Thirst for GOD, for spiritual Truth. You allow CHRIST/BUDDHA/KRISHNA/ALLAH/ETC... to be in you as you are in GOD.



Matthew 6:24

"No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon"



The Majority of the people living in this world Obviously do not serve the One TRUE MASTER "GOD/SPIRIT"; for whom they serve is the FALSE MASTER the "EGO".

The "Ego" is the Father of Lies the destroyer of truth, for it is he that draws us away from the TRUE MASTER, the Indwelling CHRIST.

Look at the world we live in, the separation of people, nation, governments, etc... The master in whom they serve is the "Ego"... so what is the answer that their master tells them whenever they have a problem? WAR!!!!



Luke 17:20-21

As Jesus Said "Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you."



Matthew 18:3-

As Jesus Said “Truly, I say to you, unless you turn and become like children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven."



- A child is without "Ego" therefore a child TRULY IS with GOD until it grows up and decides to live in SIN/EGO which denies the SPIRIT/GOD.



Philippians 2:5

"Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus"



John 14:11

As Jesus Said "Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me" that he and I are one.



Allow Christ inside your heart just as you are in Christ. You and CHRIST must Become ONE.

When you do this, your heart and mind will be Completely transformed!!!!... YOU WILL BE "RESURRECTED" like unto a Child... without "Ego".



God Bless you all.

I won't hash out particulars of religious belief here, just some general (very logical, not spiritual) observations from spending most of my education in Christian schools and some rather harsh churches that believed in being "saved"...

I've never known such hostile, miserable people. But Why? If you believe that you have salvation, and have the Holy Spirit inside of you, what are you so angry about? I came to the conclusion that the moment of being "saved" and feeling the spirit is a feeling that is similar to those moments of enlightenment. But while a Buddhist is meant to keep pursuing this, the Fundementalist is expected to have this one experience last for the rest of their lives...and if it doesn't, then you must be wrong. You must be "bad" somehow. If you feel let down, you can hardly blame Jesus. Even following all those punitive rules brings no peace. It causes bitterness and anger. Maybe even warps the psyche. Seeing so much hostility drove me right out.



I could go on at length about the problems with searching for solutions outside of oneself when the answers are inside, but I won't right now, maybe another time...

Thank-you ES



Only a few people can actually understand this I'm glad that you are one of them =)

makes perfect sence to me and you explain it soo well …good job puzzle guy

FAITH IS THE ABSENCE OF PROOF. ALL RELIGIONS ARE BASED ON EARLIER VERSIONS CHRIST WAS AN ASMILIATION OF HORUS BUT THE EARLIEST RELIGIONS BELIEVED THE SUN WAS GOD.

I understand what you are saying so let me make it clear,



You say that we are not God? then you must be saying that God is not God...



John 4:24?



If you believe that Jesus is God, then You believe that he is of Spirit... If you believe that God made us in his image... then guess what image we are?



God (created)... created us from what? spirit and so spirit is what???? Spirit is God for God is of spirit and so we are of spirit as God is of spirit... and therefore we and God are one... there is no separateness just oneness.



separateness is caused by sin which is the human ego and the reason why we suffer is because we accept ourselves as this (separateness) believing that this is who we are... when we find the oneness we find ourselves and Everything with it because oneness IS (Everything)... there is nobody and I mean nobody who can deny the (Everything) for the Everything is Existence and (Existence) just "IS"

Separateness can only exist to bring us problems, confusion, anger, hatred, pain, misery and so on...

Because (Separateness) truly wishes to become (One)... but instead it is separated away from (One) that just "is"



The name Jesus, Moses, Buddha, Mohammad, Ghandi, etc... they are all from oneness, EXISTENCE.

if you do not understand this it is absolutely okay... you will come to know it when the time is right for you, maybe when you reach the age of 60-80years old... one thing is for sure, you will know this for yourself when you do pass, because you cannot deny what you are and what you are cannot die...

If you Cannot figure this out then you still have much to learn, but don't worry you still have your whole entire life ahead of you =)

to know yourself you must not know yourself... deny yourself in order to accept yourself, to die in order to live, Die in the Ego and become reborn into the self and here is where you will find out who you truly are and will know the existence of all things in God and in Heaven.



When you do know this, nobody can tell you what you know is wrong... because you are aware of (knowing) it that you (know)

Those who are Christians have faith in somebody other than themselves therefore they will never know but instead will believe themselves to think that they do know in which they don't... because its false knowing when it doesn't come from your own and therefore will bring you into separateness and away from the "Oneness" that just "is".

I agree with you that religion is not where God is found!



God is not found in religion. In fact, Jesus spoke against religious hypocrisy.

Religion keeps people from God and from the truth because it focuses on man's achievements -rather then on God.





However, We are not gods, and God cannot be found by looking inside of ourselves.



God is only found through His gift to us; eternal life through His son.



“The kingdom of heaven is within you”

The word "within" in the Greek is “entos,” which is accurately translated “in the midst of”.



It’s interesting to note that Jesus was actually speaking in this passage to the religious hypocrites of the day.

He would not have told these people that they had the kingdom of heaven within themselves!

Rather, He was telling them that the kingdom of heaven was within their midst.



The kingdom of heaven is among us -if we have Christ with us.