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Posted February 16th, 2008 at 8:43PM

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  1. findinme - 46-50 years old - female

    Posted by findinme on Feb 16th, 2008 at 9:06PM

    That would be really hard to take. Although sometimes I hear the words from my husband and don't believe them. Only you know what your heart is telling you and you need to follow that. ((hugs))

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  2. goddessone - 41-45 years old - female

    Posted by goddessone on Feb 16th, 2008 at 9:12PM

    Thank you both. You guys are always there with a kind word for this lonely old broad. LOL

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  3. findinme - 46-50 years old - female

    Posted by findinme on Feb 16th, 2008 at 9:14PM

    Peas in a pod....LOL

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  4. goddessone - 41-45 years old - female

    Posted by goddessone on Feb 16th, 2008 at 9:18PM

    yes, here we are on another exciting saturday night pouring our hearts out. i don't know how i'll ever fall asleep.....

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  5. thinkingoutloud - 41-45 years old - female

    Posted by thinkingoutloud on Mar 27th, 2008 at 11:18PM

    my husband had a hard time saying those words too. I asked him why he never tells me and he said he thinks people tend to throw those words around too often...like everyday the 'love ya' becomes just a habitual reminder instead of 'I love you' when it's a heartfelt and emotional time.

    I know how you feel, and because I realized I wasn't going to hear it very often (and was used to hearing it in the past) I had to ask myself WHY I NEEDED TO HEAR IT? I didn't want him to start saying the words just because I wanted him to. I wanted to hear it when he felt like saying it.

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  6. thinkingoutloud - 41-45 years old - female

    Posted by thinkingoutloud on Mar 27th, 2008 at 11:19PM

    he does love you you know!

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  7. lostbird - 51-55 years old - female

    Posted by lostbird on Apr 29th, 2008 at 6:45AM

    Yet another thing in common....only mine wouldn't tell me even if I asked him.Mind you I'm struggling to love him now....and I guess he feels the same. Oh well....

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  8. KIK - 41-45 years old - male

    Posted by KIK on May 3rd, 2008 at 8:37AM

    I wish I can flick my fingers to make you more happy without thinking of him and how is he treating you. Don't try hard let it go. Obviously it's time. But you know this. LOL
    Do you like scrabbles?

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  9. goddessone - 41-45 years old - female

    Posted by goddessone on May 3rd, 2008 at 7:53PM

    Do I like Scrabble? Yes, why?

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  10. Shaylon - 26-30 years old - female

    Posted by Shaylon on Jul 3rd, 2008 at 7:50PM

    Are you kidding me?

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  11. goddessone - 41-45 years old - female

    Posted by goddessone on Jul 3rd, 2008 at 10:16PM

    Okay, I've gotten lost in my own story...I have no idea why I mentioned Scrabble, and now Shaylon, you've sent me into places unknown.....sheesh...I think I need to update this thing anyway...thought I did...hmmm...old age creeping in...

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  12. gdgtgrl - 41-45 years old - female

    Posted by gdgtgrl on Jul 24th, 2008 at 10:38PM

    I hear I love you all the time - I just don't see any evidence of it. If he really loved me, he'd go to see a marriage counsellor with me, instead of refusing and doing the small, petty things that he thinks I want. He has never asked about my day, could care less as to why I got a tattoo, stopped going to church, or just what is happening to me - despite the fact that I've told him and he can see.

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  13. goddessone - 41-45 years old - female

    Posted by goddessone on Jul 24th, 2008 at 11:12PM

    Marriage counseling is not what it's cracked up to be. We're there now. Nothing happens, nothing changes....other than my leaving the sessions feeling like a complete ***.

    I made the biggest mistake of my life 20 years ago. Now, I'm paying over and over again.

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  14. Lou2012 - 70+ years old - male

    Posted by Lou2012 on Jul 24th, 2008 at 11:23PM

    Many men find the expression of emotion a difficult thing. I know I did and when I was married, even more so. The words you want to hear, were to me back then a part of a soap opera. And, I didn't see our life as that.

    I thought, putting up with (her) was enough of a statement. We had a roof, the kids were good and I was working my *** off.

    But, I was wrong, in a lot of ways. The biggest was that all of the above were excuses, a justification for my lack of action. Not until after the divorce, after other mistakes did I realize, I didn't love her, that had not, perhaps ever.

    I learned much at a time when, I thought I did love another...and I said the words. After more time had passed, I came to the understanding that I didn't love this one either, and the next and so on.

    I am still in that place. I have learned to accept myself and to me that is love. The words, that actions, gifts and so on are not a measure of such a profound notion. One day, she will come along and she will see the gift I give myself every day. If see can see this, she will hear the words. If see needs help accepting herself, I will model as I know it.

    If she never makes it, I will still have known the love of my life. Acceptance is love.

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  15. goddessone - 41-45 years old - female

    Posted by goddessone on Jul 24th, 2008 at 11:48PM

    Lou, after reading your comment, I would have never thought you a man who (at one time) had difficulty expressing emotion.

    My husband says that he is happy and comfortable with who he is, yet his actions say otherwise. That said, I do often wonder if he truly loves me, or not. I think he "believes" that he does. However, if he can't find a way to if not say the words (and I have come right out and asked for them), then I would think he could say something similar.

    Accepting oneself is one of the greatest gifts we can allow ourselves. I applaud you for having bestowed that upon yourself.

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  16. dyin2live - 31-35 years old - female

    Posted by dyin2live on Jul 24th, 2008 at 11:54PM

    I LOVE YOU!!!!

    Okay, it's not the same as hearing it from him... but maybe it made you smile?

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  17. Posted by An EP User on Jul 24th, 2008 at 11:56PM

    wow. My husband think I'm fat. I'm chubby. I had a baby. It's hard to loose that kind of weight quick.
    God.

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  18. goddessone - 41-45 years old - female

    Posted by goddessone on Jul 24th, 2008 at 11:58PM

    Well your avi sure did!! You are one hot lady!!

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  19. dyin2live - 31-35 years old - female

    Posted by dyin2live on Jul 24th, 2008 at 11:59PM

    Thank you, thank you... ;) I just know how to pick 'em..

    and Mother, I can't see you as fat at all!!! There's no way! Your hubby may need to get his eyes checked. :)

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  20. Posted by An EP User on Jul 25th, 2008 at 12:01AM

    You mean that play boy bunny or my real pictures?

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  21. goddessone - 41-45 years old - female

    Posted by goddessone on Jul 25th, 2008 at 12:03AM

    Your picture Mom!!! Let him carry a baby for nine months...push it out....deal with the hormones AND lose weight.

    Sheesh

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  22. Posted by An EP User on Jul 25th, 2008 at 12:04AM

    Ok....I'm going to sound naive and cold here, but if I had never heard those words said with passion and meaning in 22 years...I would just slap him silly and go. Yes, I know it's WAY more complex than that, but holy f sister....you are one resilient woman.
    *HUG*

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  23. Posted by An EP User on Jul 25th, 2008 at 12:07AM, last updated Jul 25th, 2008 at 12:09AM

    I didn't push it out. I had C-section. Yeah. He is Chinese. I can't really talk to him that way in Chinese.I sound unintelligent. I do okay.



    I'm not speaking with him that much after that rude comment.
    Make me feel worthless. I'm not worthless.
    He is so rude. God. I was rude to but I was hurt.

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  24. dyin2live - 31-35 years old - female

    Posted by dyin2live on Jul 25th, 2008 at 12:10AM

    TRW, that's not naiive or cold. I am with you--I would have let him have it with both barrels if I hadn't heard it after that long. IWM is truly a very special woman to have been able to stick with it and put up with as much as she has...

    Mother--hire an interpreter. I think they are called "Louisville Slugger"... ;P

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  25. goddessone - 41-45 years old - female

    Posted by goddessone on Jul 25th, 2008 at 12:12AM

    TRW, I love how you hold back...."slap him silly and go" LOL
    I may be resilient, but obviously I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

    Okay Mom, so your stomach got sliced open, and he complains because you are not model thin. You may think you don't sound intelligent, but it seems to me, he's got a lot to learn.
    ((((Mother))))

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  26. Jamminman - 41-45 years old

    Posted by Jamminman on Jul 25th, 2008 at 12:32AM

    Hey ladies, maybe some of us guys don't like talking about our feelings (reminds me of the new beer commercials about the can with the vent), but saying "I Love You" isn't like getting in the woods and crying while sharing - it's a pretty simple statement of appreciation.
    Another unique thing about saying it - we soon really believe and act on it. I think our minds can't handle the dichotomy (unless you are a total dirt bag). Saying it is important.
    I feel for you. I can't remember my wife ever telling me that either. She may have early in our relationship, but I started noticing the gap 13 or 14 years ago, and so have paid attention.
    My feeling is that each time you leave someone, you may never see them again. There could be an accident or something, and they are gone forever. I never want my loved ones to wonder how I felt. So I make sure to say it regularly. My teenage daughters may not appreciate it so much now, but I expect they will come back around.

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  27. goddessone - 41-45 years old - female

    Posted by goddessone on Jul 25th, 2008 at 12:48AM

    It's pretty darn simple isn't it, Jammin?

    Your teenage daughters appreciate it more than you and even they realize. Stop saying it and watch what happens. Well, don't really stop...LOL

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  28. Lou2012 - 70+ years old - male

    Posted by Lou2012 on Jul 25th, 2008 at 11:31AM

    More, in each of us there is a gift. We are given the "parts" of our partner. We have both male and female attributes. Our brain is devided between logic and emotion. It seems then a simple task to "switch" and understand. Most of us, I know I did, feel that to remain on "our side" was being true to what I am.

    Until I began to switch, I could not see the whole of me and what was possable. Throughout my marrage of 23 years, we remained on our side. Much later, when I got to the point of my life when I said, as your avatar: "I want more" did I begin to understand.

    I went full circle then. Understanding led me to the point where I realized, I had known this all along. I thought I was done then, I was wrong again.

    We live in a place full of the distractions we call life, and we forget. So, every day, all day, I try to remember my mistakes, it an effort. Very much like my efforts while I was married to not "mess around", which I never did.

    And, by the way, should you ever appear before me in those stockings, I will say, I will do anything, anything at all.

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  29. goddessone - 41-45 years old - female

    Posted by goddessone on Jul 25th, 2008 at 2:21PM

    Lou, I had this wonderfully intelligent response to your comment until I read the last line. LOL

    If we ever meet and I'm in these stockings....you're on!

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  30. Lou2012 - 70+ years old - male

    Posted by Lou2012 on Jul 25th, 2008 at 3:12PM

    I will prepare.....you know this will kill me don't you, but thats the way it is..oh well.

    You "feel" to me as woman I had always wanted to know but never did. What I call a complete female.

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