What Would Ghandi Do?

I'm in favour of freedom of speech. That means that as much as I don't like it I don't wish to simply remove the trolls and similar vexatious types from EP. Therein lies a slippery slope.. Attacking them on their own turf is counterproductive, because Trolls feed on aggravating people. What we need. (Or what I think I'm going to try) is to irritate them while giving them nothing. A form of passive resistence. If some one starts a bad taste subject, I intend to simply put in a comment "I'm only here for the three points". Nothing more. The points are not useful. But it may irritate the Trolls that we won't rise to the bait, yet we appear to be gaining something. I have no idea if this will work. But I think its worth a try. Any comments or thoughts on improvements will be welcomed.
whowasthatmaskedman whowasthatmaskedman
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18 Responses Jul 23, 2010

Good post. I think the best thing to do is ignore them if you can't be bothered irritating them!!.

Errr, sorry for pointing this out but his name was Gandhi not Ghandi. Only know because I'm married to one and she gets mad when people misspell her name!

good post! I don't know what to do about the ******* trolls AND spammers. They make it hard to stay on this site. I'm not perfect, I am sometimes inflammatory. But, like you said below, it is because of strong beliefs. Not simply to annoy and get a reaction - arguments irritate, exhaust and bore me. I mark as many spammers as I can and send EPsupport lists of spamming and harassive users. They thank me and let me know who they ban and who they cant.

They said to send usernames directly to them instead of flagging because its faster, so I just send a list of 5-10 users and their prohibited activities.

I think that is a brilliant thought. It should work, at least in principle.

I think you're a troll by your own definition. I asked a simple question about visiting a museum, which could have been answered 'yes' or 'no' and you created a debate. Now, on my questions I like discussion and welcome "freedom of speech" so you're okay, but it's those labels that "some people" just have to put on others because of their need to control everything... "troll".

In my opinion a Troll uses confrontation in various forms, simply to get a response. Not because of a genuinely held belief. I our contacts I do you the courtesy of taking your words as a genuine statement of your beliefs and you return me the same level of respect. It is the content of those beliefs on which I fear we will never agree. :)

Thank you for clearing that up some for me.

torture :)) the trolls and what has Ghandi to do with it ?

I have learned from experience to simply ignore any trolls here,I will not be baited into any response.

I'm only here for the three points.

I personally believe people should really get to grips with what a troll means....<br />
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Yes I agree with pyramus they come on your posts and post off topic things just to make you look bad... Well I block them and they get even madder... For instance I said a ********* is OLD in comparison to a child... Of course 30-50 is old... In the likes of ADULTS and there I was being accused of insulting people on their age while I was fighting pedophiles on this site referring to the pedophiles... They went off topic totally thinking just about themselves being very self-centered while the story was never even about them accusing me of "harassing them" because I say they are old - well and then I blocked the trolls and what do you know they pissss their pants even more...<br />
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Oh well what would ghandi do?<br />
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I came to a conclusion that I do not have time for self-centered people; so concerned about their own EGO AND PRIDE that the whole rest of the world is nothing in comparison to what they are... They actually thought their EGO getting hurt by being called old was more important and bigger than fighting pedo creeps... WTF?<br />
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I think Ghandi would have laughed it off and won't bother with self-righteous people - all pride comes to a fall... So they can go on whining etc... They stay BLOCKED I don't have time for people thinking their problems are worse than kids getting abused... For pete's sake!!! Seriously WTF?!

Love this response.

I agree everyone should be allowed freedom of speech & have outlets express their feeling.<br />
This means that I am prepared to accept that there are groups on EP ba<x>sed on viewpoints which I am opposed to & maybe even find offensive..<br />
But I think there's a time & a place for everything.<br />
I don't feel this freedom should go as far as permitting everyone to go around saying anything they like wherever they feel like saying it.<br />
For example if a surgeon is performing a delicate life or death operation I think its best if he (or she) is allowed to concentrate on what they're doing & not be interrupted by a religious fundamentalist bursting into the operating theatre telling them they're a sinner, calling on them a to repent, & shouting religious texts into their ear. <br />
I believe there is a need to have some social controls for the common good. <br />
If a troll keeps interrupting an EP group to post mindlessly offensive remarks or off topic comments. I don't have any issue with personally blocking them & am even prepared to be instrumental in getting the ID they are using blocked from EP completely.<br />
A preoccupation for some Trolls seems be an attempt to intimidate others from feeling able to exercise their right of free speech & free ex<x>pression.Although banning & censorship should never be taken lightly I believe it's an issue which sometimes needs to addressed.

You have an exemplary point about passively resistive to these IRRITATING contents and graphics. Thanks.

Those who are easily amused at another's expense, thankfully seem to have a short attention span, and move along quickly.

I agree, particularly with your last comment. This story was posted a while back when things were rather different here. Since then a lot of the people who I was concerned about have either moved, or been moved, on. The reason for posting the story at all was at least in part to attract the attenion of the moderators to the issue. (Although I'm not claiming any responsibility for the outcome)

(Tips Hat) There are any number of us out there Ma'am

WOW! A gentle, considerate person!

Both the previous coments make valid points. I should qualify my commentary by stating that I have no inclination to "censorship" as it is popularly understood. The content or interests of the members and placing any limits on that are not in my agenda.My sole concern is that some fragile people come here looking for advice (or just understanding) and there is an element that replies with abuse, belittling and generally counterproductive comment.When its aimed at me I don't care. But I talk to some of these hurt people and I know it cuts them deeply. I seek a way to discourage that behaviour only.

Today freedom of speech, or the freedom of ex<x>pression, is recognized in international and regional human rights law. Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and ex<x>pression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers. <br />
International, regional and national standards also recognize that freedom of speech, as the freedom of ex<x>pression, includes any medium, be it orally, in written, in print, through the Internet or through art forms. This means that the protection of freedom of speech as a right includes not only the content, but also the means of ex<x>pression. And finally I think that EP is the best site for this purpose.

Even though I'm one of the trolls, I think you have a cute idea. The only problem is that as the moderator of the story, I'll just delete your comment and you'll lose your points and time. I have to wonder why you'd waste a minute of your life reading one of my "bad taste" efforts. If a story contains "bad taste" and isn't marked "adults only" I suppose you could flag it to show your displeasure. I can hardly keep up with my friends and subscriptions so I can't imagine being so bored with EP that I could find the time to join the crusade to read and flag all the disgusting things here. <br />
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For example, you have written a story in the group "generate positive vibes" . Obviously iritating authors of content you find to be in "bad taste" isn't a positive vibe sort of thing - even if it is done as "respectfully" as you say. So knowing this about you, I'm not going to insult myself by reading your positive vibe story since the two concepts don't mesh and I am more likely to feel your positive vibes story is "bad taste" and wishful thinking. It's a shame because I suspect I would have enjoyed it and been made happy by your bubbly enthusiasm for life even though it can be trying and challenging at times.