Losing Hope

I concur with Ernie.

I have been an EP member for some considerable time now and during that time I have only ever encountered pervs very rarely.

Perhaps I am just lucky or perhaps I just don't go looking for it.

The one thing that always seems to work is writing dirrectly to EP either via the contact page or E-mail. It seems that after flagging numerous times I will contact EP dirrect via e-mail and I always get a reply and reaction in less that 12 hours.

Nimbus and Chipernie are both men. Men do not get as much harassing requests for **** as women do. My husband told me that he gets requests for friendship from women who are usually around his age and are lonely some are harassing. He gets nothing at the level that I and many other women members do. EP is not getting better. It is getting worse. When people are posting pornographic videos on their profiles and it is flagged many times over and nothing gets done about it, there lies a serious problem. EP Link The link is to a story within this group about flagging videos. The profile within the link has been flagged for the pornographic video it has on its profile. It has been flagged by several people but it is still up and it has been over 24 hours since the person who brought this situation to light posted it. Yet, nothing has been done about it. EP is a "hot" mess.

Yep, female users definitely have to put up with this more, and the behavior does border on harassment, in my opinion.



I remember changing my gender and profile pic to "male" with my last account as an experiment. The fan adds from adult profile members stopped immediately.



It's been a loooong time since I've gotten any adds with my current account. I hardly see any adult content anymore.



I hid my gender, blocked fan adds from members with adult accounts, and finally blocked adult content altogether. The only thing I didn't block was profanities. Because I have a bit of a potty mouth myself, and the asterisks get to be confusing.



Aaaand, there are a few things I could say here regarding why some may not be in favor of censorship, but I'm going to bite my tongue and keep the peace.

This situation saddens me. It brings disgrace knowing that some men can't respect women. I know men aren't the only ones posting naked pictures. I think it is pathetic when a man posts a naked or sleazy picture of a woman as his profile picture as if to say, "I think all women are this way." It is even more disgraceful when they post a naked picture of themselves. All it shows is that they have no sense of respect for others on here (including children). Those kinds of people need not be on here.

This is the strangest site I have ever been on.. actually outside of facebook it is the only social media-tytpe outlet I have ever been involved with..



This is a pic-up place, no question about it... a shame too be/c it could be so much more...great place to test out writing pieces.. but it really needs a good hot shower !!

I feel really sad because I remember when EP wasn't so pornographic but now, there is so much of it. I agree that there should be a system that EP checks a custom avatar before it is posted.

I guess the point is that while self -expression is a beautiful thing in theory, the nature of this site is such that you cannot protect yourself from that which offends you. I get fanned two or three times a day. I wrote a story once about how if you post a story about how you enjoy looking out of your window you will immediately be fanned by someone who "is a peeping Tom." I found a million ways to laugh about this phenomenon and even joked that at least they were reading.

No matter what you do, you cannot prevent someone from fanning you, and that is okay except for when your fan is rude. I went to Tom's profile to check out his stories and came face to face with depravity that is still giving me nightmares.

The answer is not in creating features that alert staff to inappropriate material, the answer is to change this place back to a place where you do not have to be scared, stalked or intimidated by lonely, perverted cyber-holics. The only way to do that is to censor groups and avatars. I am not optimistic. Once the door is open it is next to impossible to close. Ep would have to show some integrity and that is unlikely at this point.

you have expressed your self and the problem well..there is nothing more i can add....except......thank you...

First, I'm with Conceptualclarity. I have met many "quality men" on EP. There are a lot of men here who are respectful and fun and interesting.



And I agree with Quintesse that the ultimate solution is not to come up with better and better flagging systems, but is to make EP an inhospitable place for the X-rated set. How? I don't know, but it's not my job to run a website. Surely there must be a way.

I believe coming here and seeing nude avatars up makes the pervs feel at home. I believe failure to deter this misconduct is the root of much of the grief on this site. Deterrence does work on other sites which have avatars but you never see nude ones, e.g. Answerbag.

Another well-phrased "story"/report, and I'm fully in agreement. EP has been a great support to me and I've met many genuine friends over the past year or so. Being transgender inevitably rates me and these friends as "adult" because "gender is sex, innit?". Well it isn't, and I do resent all those "fans" who suppose I'm interested in what I would consider degrading activities. Sexuality that is respectful and tender is one thing, wife-sharing and incontinence etc. is not, and I can do nothing to automatically distinguish and block. So I cough and move on. But I have a large "fan" following that thankfully only I can see, that at times frankly disgusts me.



My guess is that EP overwhelms those few who are asked to manually moderate. But how can there BE groups like ****** etc. without being noticed?? Even EP moderators can do database crawls for terms likely to cause breach of T&Cs. No? And photo scanning software to alert stories with embedded nudity? Surely ...



I do get less interested the more explicit sex content there is, especially when it objectifies and degrades.

I agree. Lets ease off on the raunch.

Am I missing it???



I have not once, encountered any of the mess that you describe. Really, are only women targets.



well, I do not accept certain things, eg anyone with 69 in their username ---------- gone. Do not even check the profile, assume one dimensional twittering of an ignoramus. Do not waste emotional energy reading his/her bs.



I love women, the female form, my sisters here......... etc but nudity is private. If you believe that it is art then keep your art private.



Muses-- To think, some people thought that I might be a perve when I lodged my first story....... hmmmmmmmm



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As a newcomer to EP , I was ready to leave after only a few days on the site. I'm not a prude or a saint but engaging in cybersex is not a prudent way forward to anything meaningful. Talking about an illusion! Getting all steamed up sitting in front of a display of light and shade on a computer screen . What a waste of time.

Save EP,cause i just found my new off an would fight to save it.

Save EP,cause i just found my new off an would fight to save it.

100% FULLY COMPLETELY agree with you!



I wish the staff of EP tries to truly consider this issue. The popularity of EP will just fastly decline due to the immorality of spreading posion. It's like cancer cells Vs healthy blood cells.



SUGGESTiON:

We should all agree to write a complaint message to them all at the same time time and day - maybe that would alert them abit, in order to actually take some positive action. If you don't want to do it for yourself, then do it for the people who are on EP looking for help, advice, inspiration, motivation to keep going. Because honestly, there is so much good in this social network and I seen so many people be TRULY inspired in actually becoming better, in recieving ''immediate'' advice, help, etc.



We are all talking about the problem, which is good to show that there are many good people out there, but ''action'' speaks louder than words and maybe if we all gather as many people on EP to put some suggestions in trying to solve this problem, then voting on the best one we can therefore, implement it in order for righteous change to occur. By EP seeing us make a move, they will sure do something about it even if it's 10% change.



We do have the freedom of speech or action BUT freedom shouldn't negatively effect its surroundings or others because freedom has its limits. And lastly, as there is good in the world, there is also evil, but that doesn't mean we should sit back and watch darkness prevail, rather righteousness should spread it's light.



May righteousness overflow EP - ameeen:)

Datura... beautiful and a very important post - thanks for sharing!



]PEACE[

I doubt if i'm going to say anything that hasn't already been said. (quite a few responses to this post).

I'm sure that it's worse for the ladies on here.

In my approximately one year of EP membership i've recieved only a couple of invitations to become friends with naked 'crudely so' young women. However the complaint from female members has been constant.

It would be easy to say, ignore them and just concentrate on the acceptible members, but apart from that being an irritating platitude, it shouldn't be neccessary.

I symathise with all the ladies on here who are exposed to this type of feeble minded sexual display, there are far too many moronic people in the world, and they all seem to be online.

What is needed is for some philanthropic techno geek to whisk us all away to a perv proof new EP. Alas the chances of that happening are less than remote.

Or are they. is there perhaps a healthy minded techno geek who could build a perv free new EP. One with a more vigilant method of censorship.

I'm sure that there are plenty of people out there who have the technical know how, the problem is finding one who has the inclination and motivation.

Perhaps a more technically minded EP member could put out feelers for such a person/persons out there in cyberspace.

Yea sorry, I know it's pie in the sky, but for all you ladies who seem most abused, I really wish it could happen.

Maybe you'd take me with you.

I absolutely agree with you Datura! No,I have not been looking at penises,sorry! I had to giggle a that comment of yours! Perhaps we should start our own site?Take care and hugs always from one of the "older" peeps...and yes! I did get an add from a nudist a couple of minutes after I logged on..I just blocked him! He he.....aint gonna get me down....If EP doesnt want to do anything,I say we build our own website.....take care ...gotta run! I said that 10 minutes ago!.....chat soon ok?

Yeah! Clean avitars might scar the trash away!.....Its a start right? Now people? lets keep going......I think EP needs to know what we are promoting and get on board WITH US on this.....petition comes to mind.....

I think we have been replaced Ms Dat. Just like the movie The Artist..... No voice.

We can't lose hope. We need to give this a happy ending too. Hopefully, EP has not lost sight of its original aim. But sometimes we wonder if the aim has changed. Has anyone asked? DF

DF, it does seem that the original aim of EP has changed over the years. Allowing all types of stories and groups has come at a great expense to what EP used to be, a supportive and uplifting place. I can't see how mean and nasty trolls, explicit sexual avatars, and groups glorifying ****** can possibly fit into the original intent of this website. Yet there are entire EP neighborhoods populated by these unsavory, and at times illegal, citizens and topics.



EP saying to us that this is not permitted doesn't change anything. They are still here.



I don't want to lose hope. But I'm not seeing much of an improvement.



I would be very interested to hear from EP staff just exactly what their goals and hopes for this website are at this time.

I think we do need to weed out some of the disgusting topics basically sex. But sharing that I drink blood was helpful to me as a person don't catch dophlieans when fishing for fish.

Datura I never like to give up or lose hope, but cleaning up EP at this stage would indeed be a huge challenge. Society is a changing. I am a little older than you, but remember when Catcher in the Rye was banned in many libraries. I frequent the library a lot, and the books they handle today are so much more explicit and make no pretense of being anything other than a sex novel, and there are thousands of them.
I watch very little television, but when I go to visit my 4 granddaughters they have a filter on the television and they tell me how short some of the shows have become.
I am sure EP could put a similar filter on here, but how many members would they lose? Like so many things it is a numbers game; and they need/want those numbers.
I came to EP to encourage and uplift as much as possible. I have gotten side tracked at times as some of the people in my circle have. Recently I felt I had to remove one that seemed to want to see how far she could push the vulgar language in daily messages to me. If it had been sensual we would still be friends maybe good friends. Who would draw the line?
I am certainly no saint and have been tempted to bring one or two of EP’s sirens into my circle, so I could see the pictures they promise. I have been able to resist only because I think that would impede my ability to help others. Look at some of the sirens number of friends though; some are over a thousand. Unfortunately I think we are in the minority.
I thank you so much though, for bringing it to light.

I blocked someone yesterday,he started sending me posts in my mail, he was not in my circle but I don't believe in closing access to people who are not in my circle,some do genuinely want to know you and befriend you,but that was another story,I was shocked by what I discovered, reading one of is "stories" I will not repeat it here.If I flagged it it would I am sure have remained behind "the pink notice" giving the choice to read or not read,this disgusting story had not been flagged,would you believe! no pink notice! And there were loads of answers,I read one and that was enough,there are some real weirdos out there! I know the world is changing but there are limits,cleaning up EP will be a huge challange but we must get the cooperation from EP for it to happen and they certainly must start seriously monitoring these things before too many good people get put off and leave and some of us get traumatised,EP has have a moral responsibility to its members.Take care.

You can build your own social network at Ning if you are serious about doing that sort of thing

I'm losing hope too. Before I stumbled upon this site, I never heard of adults wearing diapers just for sexual titillation. I mean hello? What is seductive about your own pee and poop?

I totally agree. They broke the stuff that actually made it useful - like blog notifications. ARRGGHH!! Many days I am not even sure why I am here.